well here she is!

[Kajun]

i had a ad on craigslist saying that i was looking to buy a 100-130hp motor...this guy emails me and says..

"I have a '93 Johnson 140 you can have for free if you come get it. It has good compression and runs strong but tends to run hot. It has a 25" standard rotation shaft and include a prop. I used it often on my Chesapeake 22. I put a bigger motor on my Chesapeake so I don't need it now."

well i send him back an email saying hell yea i want it ;D but the soonest i could pick it up was this weekend....i went to harbor freight tool store this morning and got a great deal on a 1 ton engine hoist $109!!...without the net special and 20% coupon its normally like $167 with taxes....anyway..my buddy meets me at the house, i call the guy and he says motor is still sitting there to come on out!..we take off and go..... we get there and using the hoist we make short work of loading it......the guy said it was running with he took it off the boat to repower but that at certain speeds the overheat alarm would go off but if he backed off a bit or went over that speed she ran cool......he said he brought it to a shop and the mechanic said he couldnt find out why it did that...he had lower unit rebuilt and complete water pump changed 1yr ago.

other than alil corrosion on the lower transom brackets she looks to be in great shape..i was really surprised he gave this away..but who am i to question his generosity or motives? ;D he lived in a nice house on the water so i'm guessing he is not gonna miss the motor or the cash....he was just happy to have it off his garage floor :).....oh yea..that hoist paid for itself 10x over today...my back is thanking me!!

here is the model number.. could someone confirm that this is a 93 model for me.. nada leans towards a 94 model at 378lbs!.....J140TXERR...s/n G 03522499

its missing the controls and wiring harness..so i'll be needing to find those..and a lifting eye and jackplate so far...i'll get a compression check on it as soon as i can get it mounted on stand and figure how to do it without a wiring harness.

heres the pics!

http://www.cajunmusicforum.com/gallery/albums/Johnson/DSCF0001.sized.jpg
http://www.cajunmusicforum.com/gallery/albums/Johnson/DSCF0002.sized.jpg

[img]http://www.cajunmusicforum.com/gallery/albums/Johnson/DSCF0003.sized.jpg
http://www.cajunmusicforum.com/gallery/albums/Johnson/DSCF0003.sized.jpg
http://www.cajunmusicforum.com/gallery/albums/Johnson/DSCF0005.sized.jpg
http://www.cajunmusicforum.com/gallery/albums/Johnson/DSCF0006.sized.jpg
http://www.cajunmusicforum.com/gallery/albums/Johnson/DSCF0008.sized.jpg
http://www.cajunmusicforum.com/gallery/albums/Johnson/DSCF0009.sized.jpg
http://www.cajunmusicforum.com/gallery/albums/Johnson/DSCF0010.sized.jpg
http://www.cajunmusicforum.com/gallery/albums/Johnson/DSCF0011.sized.jpg
http://www.cajunmusicforum.com/gallery/albums/Johnson/DSCF0012.sized.jpg
http://www.cajunmusicforum.com/gallery/albums/Johnson/DSCF0013.sized.jpg
http://www.cajunmusicforum.com/gallery/albums/Johnson/DSCF0014.sized.jpg

[TheTinMan]

Awesome! Looks great! Change the thermostat/s and see what happens.

[chumbucket]

J140TXERR is a 1994 model year.

J=Johnson
140=Hp
T=tilt/trim with electric start
X=25" shaft length

next 2 numbers designate the year. For all OMC's

I=1
N=2
T=3
R=4
O=5
D=6
U=7
C=8
E=9
S=0

So; ER = 1994

[Skools Out]

Great looking motor what a deal i got one of my 140's the same way except yours looks better outside by a ton. change the northern *t stat covers for southern covers and it will run cooler. that motor is built for the north.


Southern T stat covers with head over flow.

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a46/Skools_Out/Manatee/red_boat_40.jpg


Northern T Stat covers no over flow or tie lines

http://www.cajunmusicforum.com/gallery/albums/Johnson/DSCF0010.sized.jpg

see here the t cover has hoses connecting them and one leaving to the pisser on the motor lower cover

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a46/Skools_Out/Motors/78_3.jpg

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a46/Skools_Out/Motors/5b_3.jpg

[Kajun]

hmm..hopefully that does the trick!...got a few things to do before i get to that part though.... i was just looking at it ..it seems like it was rebuilt before...seems like the powerhead was painted and there is a "020" stamped right above the V4 on the back of it right under that round plug thing.....i pulled the plugs and 3 of them was totally clean....i'm thinking water getting in a steam cleaning them?..the bottom right was black and oilyish...i guess i wont know till i get a comp check done on it....

to do that i need to mount it on my stand ..which i need to modify a bit....then i need a lifting eye...hows much do these run and what is best place to get them?...next once its mounted i got to figure out how to turn it over without a wiring harness/key..any ideas?...what is the best manual for this motor to get me started..cylmers or seloc? eventually i'll get a manf. service manual.

also..i dont see a oil tank, he gave me one but i dont think its for this motor..its too big to fit anywhere on it.....is this a VRO? or is it a mix ya oil and gas type?..i have a full tank of gas that is mixed...hate to throw it out....also kinda like the safety of knowing there is oil in gas.

looks like i might be in for some work with this motor lol but i guess for the price i can afford to put some cash into it and i got all winter to tinker with it.

[Skools Out]

oil tank goes in the boat somewhere and has a hose and wiring to the motor.the lifting eye i made mine out of an old com-a-long, the manual go ahead and buy the factory service manual for it, save money don't buy those other crappy ones. just get an "ER" factory manual. and as the turning over just hook the hot to the starter lug for the hot wire from the relay and the touch the the block where ever with ground she will turn over if the starter is good. it will havefire at that time as well so remove all plugs so it doesn't try to fire up on ya.

[Kajun]

ok i got the oil tank then...i'm thinking i'm just gonna leave it it off for awhile...less to deal with atm...


got a pic of your lifting eye? i can weld(tig) and i got access to welding machines, machine shop and other things so i could prob make it.


i'll buy the factory manual.. ebay?


do ya think i could do a compression check with it laying on ground like it is? i'm dieing to know if this thing has compression lol..especially before i go out and buy all kinds of things for it.....i'll pull all plugs, connect them to plug wire and then ground each one not being tested.

[brianct12]

Compression Test: * I'm no experienced mechanic - *but I dont see why you couldnt test it lying there. * *If she is steady and wont rock over - *go ahead. * Verify the shift mechanism is in neutral, remove the plugs, open up the throttle, and crank her over. * I would see if you could attach some battery leads to the Starter and ground. * If you make/break your battery connection at the starter numerous times ... *the voltage arc starts to eat into the starter lug. *At least that was my experience.
Good Luck - I had an '85 90hp version of that engine which I sold this spring. Motor ran great for 20 years - with not 1 thing ever going wrong.

[msbhammer]

You did good on getting a Freebee. Good Job ! ;D

[TheTinMan]

Can't you just hang the motor on the transom instead of using a stand?


I also think people rely too much on compression tests. I bought a 90hp v4 Rude, tested the compression and it was fine. Could not get it running smoothly, pulled the heads and one piston spit a ring, piston had 2 rings and 1 was still intact so compression was good. Compression tests are not a guarantee the motor is good...at least in my case :-/

[Skools Out]

yes test it on the ground i check mine when buying in any position. The throttle doesn't matter but spins faster open but test the starter with them closed. should have around 120

[reelapeelin]

I agree comp tests are not conclusive, but as good an indicator as there is w/ out tearin' the motor down...if the comp #s are good, start it up...if that goes well, put it on the boat and run it...heck...it was FREEEEE...ya CAN'T lose much...


...and Kajun...if it were mine, I'd TRASH the VRO and run the mixed gas ya got and keep-on mixin'!! ;) ...that of course is assumin' ya got the right mix in the tank ;) :) ...

Carbs could probably use a good cleanin', too...and maybe some lube on the starter solenoid... ;) ...

Keep the pics comin'...great project...can't believe FREEEEE ::) ;D ;D ;D ...

Didja get a title?

[Kajun]

ok i'll do a comp check as it sits..

yea i dont think the VRO is going back on it..i dont trust them at all....i'll definetly clean or rebuild carbs....lube on the starter solenoid? wheres that at?

no title's needed for motors here in virginia that i know of...

[Kajun]

woohoo!! just did a compression check

120 125
125 125

skools it it normal for that top left one to be alil lower? on forces it normal for one to be alil lower.

i think i'm gonna go to bass pro and buy some marine tex and 5200 so i can get my transom doweled up before it rains this week.....then i'll come back and work on modifying my engine stand to fit this motor.....whew.. wow ..big relief for me in seeing these comp results...

[Skools Out]

she's alive IT'S ALIVE GREA***124;T your are in great shape with those reading. 120 is average. Now we gotta git her kool lol. Hey can ya say Git-R-Done lol. they will fit an engine stand. I have 2 on motor stands 1 is a V4 other a V6. I even run mine on motor stands. What kind of controls are you looking for side mount, binn mount, or thru wall style??

[chumbucket]

He's already got a binnacle control box that'll work. According to the pics posted before, it looks to be a Teleflex universal (mounted backwards btw. ;D)

[Kajun]

git-r-done! ;D...yup i have a teleflex binn control that i'd like to use since its already mounted.. i think i would just need the cables to connect to it.....chum...is it backwards? lol

i'm on hold pretty much till i can get a 1/2" drill bit to drill mount holes in my stand ..i modified the stand tonight it was really wide, like 45"..now its just wide enough to fit this motor...26"...plus re-inforced the mount 2x6's with a 3/4" piece of hardwood luan ..should be strong enough to hold it now.

shopping list for motor is:

1. new or used control cables
2. new wiring harness with key
3.new or used factory manual
4.new or used Jackplate
5. Gauges

which gauges will i need for this motor? i have a speedo, faria tach, and gas/battery gauge, a tilt/trim toggle switch....whats a good tach for this motor?

[Skools Out]

teleflex gauge or OMC the one you have may have a selector on the back by chance??? it may work worth a look. they have the control wiring avail. used at Boat Recyclers in NC look on ebay.

http://stores.ebay.com/BOAT-RECYCLERS-OF-WILMINGTON
http://i1.ebayimg.com/04/i/05/a5/45/d9_1_sbl.JPG

[Skools Out]

Here's you some cables

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Two-control-cables-johnson-omc-cobra-evinrude_W0QQitemZ220036609387QQihZ012QQcategoryZ1 24104QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


http://i10.ebayimg.com/04/i/07/e0/0d/3d_1.JPG

[chumbucket]

What length cables do you need? I gots cables. ;D

The Teleflex works either way. Usually mounted the other way around though. Doesn't really matter I think.

[Kajun]

yea my tach does have a pole selector on back and its brand new.. i'll call faria and see if it can be used with johnsons.

i need to pull out the force cables so i can get a measurement....i'll try to go do that now....

[Kajun]

ok got them out... my measuring tape is only 16ft...the cables are about 17ft..brand is "Morse"

here are the ends that connect to the binnacle..


http://www.cajunmusicforum.com/gallery/albums/Johnson/DSCF0003_001.sized.jpg
http://www.cajunmusicforum.com/gallery/albums/Johnson/DSCF0004_001.sized.jpg
http://www.cajunmusicforum.com/gallery/albums/Johnson/DSCF0005_001.sized.jpg


here's the engine stand...even after i modified it it still wont let me get close enough to it...but i may be able to get it mounted with 2 people, but i'm trying to get it so i can do everything myself, mount and unmount motors... i might have to modify the front hoist legs so that are alil more spread out.

http://www.cajunmusicforum.com/gallery/albums/Johnson/DSCF0002_001.sized.jpg

[Skools Out]

remember to get about a ft longer so they reach for sure due to jackplate.

[macojoe]

Posted by: chumbucket Posted on: Oct 15th, 2006, 10:49pm
What length cables do you need? I gots cables.

The Teleflex works either way. Usually mounted the other way around though. Doesn't really matter I think


Give me them cables back you theft!! ;)

I was going to throw them in the trash before CB saved them!!

[macojoe]

here's the engine stand...even after i modified it it still wont let me get close enough to it...but i may be able to get it mounted with 2 people, but i'm trying to get it so i can do everything myself, mount and unmount motors... i might have to modify the front hoist legs so that are alil more spread out.


I have done my alone, but I use a come along or a chain fall.

I don't know hjow high that thig you have goes, but if you mke the stand legs short on the oter side from the motoer that would get you closer? The weight of the motor would be on the long leg side and balance nice.

Just getting over the top?? Or come at it from the side??

Or hang a chain fall or come along in the garage and transfer to it to add to the stand, use the hoist for mounting on to the boat?

[chumbucket]

They're brand new!!!!!!

[macojoe]

I should have tossed them! LOL

I tryed selling then giving and no one wanted them??

My basement is so full I had no were to keep anymore!

So CB saved them from the grave!

I will teach you to take my stuff and give it away!

[Kajun]

i just went a tried to come in from the other side of it...it didnt do much good....prob is the width of the stand....i'll have no choice but to modify the hoist legs..

i would use my rafters in my garage but it was built in 1942 lol i did it once with a 85hp force and was scared chitless the whole time....lots of creaking lol

i guess i could just mount it on the boat instead of putting it on the stand , kinda wanted it on stand though for awhile till i was able to go through it and make sure it would run before mounting.

here's a better pic of the legs..

http://www.cajunmusicforum.com/gallery/albums/Johnson/DSCF0001_001.sized.jpg

[pikfish]

What happened to the extendable boom on your motor lift?

[reelapeelin]

Add 4'' blocks between casters and stand....then motor-lift oughtta roll right under from the side ;) ...

That stand looks strangely familiar ::) ... ;D ;D ...

[Skools Out]

you could split the legs or do like i do and pick the stand up to the motor bolt it on and let it all down.

[macojoe]

lifting the stand is a good idea, but then I know think you could di it alone??

Reel has a good Idea, put stand on a pallet the legs will go under the pallet, mount the motr and then lift motor and stand toghter and put down on floor!

[Kajun]

well just talked with my fishing buddy..he owns a canvas shop and has welding machines and stuff..he said bring the stand in to modify it this week...also he is gonna make a motor harness for me....just need to find some thick webbing and some D-rings...and wake up early one day this week lol

the stand it too heavy to pick up and mount...good idea though!


pikfish.. its extended all it can go...

[chumbucket]

I just took a look. Cables are 16' long. One set new. One set used.

[Kajun]

no prob chum, thanx for the offer..i'm gonna go new with cables and harness.

[Stinky_Hooker]

Awesome Kajun!! Id like to know what kinda performance you get with it. Ill be watchin this one for sure!!


I heard once that the OMC 140s were big gas hogs....Skools?

[macojoe]

CB has a brand new set of 16 cables!! I know this cause I gave them to him!!

santach them up!!

[Skools Out]

actually a 140 is ok on fuel. they are actually a 120 with 200 / 225 intake, reeds, and *225 carbs. You can turn a 120 into a 140 by buying a set of 200 / 225 intakes with reeds and use the upper half then a set of 225 carbs the upper 4 and you are riding high with 140 poneys.

[shicks007]

Kajun,

My 85' 140 hp was pretty decent on fuel I thought. I haven't sold the motor yet *so let me know if you need anything to get yours going.


I think you should buy the whole thing for spare parts, I'll let it go cheap. Good lower unit and everything! ;D

Another thought........If you were to buy my old motor, would you be able to use the intermediate section and lower unit to make it a 20" instead of buying a jack plate? Just a thought, it might not be that simple.

[Kajun]

hmmm....i like that idea...i wonder if its doable...where you located shicks?

[Skools Out]

you're better off leaving it together.and using a jackplate. the 25" 140's have V6 lower units so are much stronger than 20" shafts. plus you don't want to try taking out all those bolts holding on the powerheads unless it is just 10000% nessary.

[Kajun]

yea your right...prob better off not messing with it....but i just dont like the idea of that much weight 6 inches back from my transom....seems like it would concentrate the full weight of the motor on just the small footprint of the jackplate ..instead of when motor is attached to transom where it is more balanced and weight is more evenly dispersed along the transom....

plus i dont know the condition of my transom... when i drill the new holes i'll find out i guess lol

[shicks007]

It's really no big deal to me, just a thought, really.

My motor is tore down to the point in question (powerrhead, lower unit off). And remember my deal.....we were thinking it was a V6 gearcase. I'm in Yorktown if your interested, if not, no biggie.

[Kajun]

shicks..thanks for the offer ,i'll get up with you shortly when i can see clearly on this project , i have quite a bit more to do before i can think about a spare parts motor, cash flow is low, its looking like even thought i got this for free its gonna cost me a small fortune to get it mounted and running lol

i went out and took measurements on my hoist tonight..so i can modify it tomorow....i also ended up afro-engineering a motor sling *;D...used both short transom straps and a cargo strap! it worked perfect!

skools.. think i should try starting this puppy up tomorow when i get it on the stand?....hook up some oil/gas mix and some muffs and crank her over? ;D.....all i have is battery cables ..but i can turn it over with them... how would i turn it off? lol..i could work the controls by hand......or should i wait for a wiring harness/controls?

my service manual came in today also...and i ordered 4 carb rebuild kits..should i order a fuel pump rebuild kit or just a diaphram?

gonna order the wiring harness tommorow...they are like $110...also the guy asked if i need a "Key Switch Harness and Assembly for $81.55"
...my keyswitch is mounted on my console with my gauges.....do i need a separate harness for it?


here's some pics of the sling...

http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/6030/dscf0003fd9.jpg

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/7946/dscf0004th0.jpg

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/5696/dscf0011cr4.jpg




what is this piece across the bottom that is so corroded?...hopefully its an anode lol

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/8959/dscf0010vo5.jpg

[Kajun]

found me a complete set of controls and the 2 rubber grommets that go on cowling this morning at budget boats in chesapeake...got it for $230..it has a 30 warranty....was it a deal or no?

it has the controls, wiring harness, trim harness, tach harness.. the binnacle has the key and a t/t switch , kill switch on it.


http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/733/dscf0001kw8.jpg

[macojoe]

I think you all set with your controlls??

thats abot 1/2 or a little more if you had to buy all that, But you don't.

CB has both cables brand new in the box never used, for shipping cost only!!

You have the control box, so all you need are wires, unless you got them with the motor?? I forgot?

I would run it on the stand before I orded anything!! And check compersion!! You want to be sure you have at least a running motor!!

[reelapeelin]

Looks like a deal on the controls/ cables...they ARE the right length?...right?...

[macojoe]

right ;D

[Kajun]

update: well got the hoist modified yesterday...worked great...got the engine mounted on stand FINALLY!.....hooked controls up...did a spark check.. got spark on all 4 cyl's!..compression good..spark good..all that i need to do now is fuel system...but i'm kinda lost with this VRO stuff...i dont want to use it but i need to figure out how to disable it totally so i dont screw it up in case i decide to use it later, manual tells me nothing on how to disable it....also got a few wires that i dont know what they go to still....i'd like to hook some gas and water up to it and try starting it today .

also..if this motor was using the VRO prior...are the carbs ready to accept a mixed fuel or is it set to a lean gas setting now and i would have to adjust it for a mix?

here's some pics...


http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/7596/dscf0008ah0.jpg

http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/9012/dscf0009ql9.jpg




is this where the battery cable ground goes?



http://img343.imageshack.us/img343/6850/dscf0014ln4.jpg


have no idea where this wire goes.. its a pinkish/tanish colored wire


http://img343.imageshack.us/img343/4144/dscf0015fs8.jpg


this fitting on the front of the fuel pump doesnt have anything hooked to it...what goes there?

http://img343.imageshack.us/img343/7153/dscf0017hb6.jpg


on the trim harness there are 2 wires not connected to anything.. the plug is a 3 wire plug...are these just extras?

http://img343.imageshack.us/img343/1605/dscf0019do0.jpg



here's my friend dave's canvas awning shop......all the enclosures you can make lol

dave modifying the hoist legs

http://img439.imageshack.us/img439/4641/dscf0003bs5.jpg

http://img436.imageshack.us/img436/4107/dscf0004tw0.jpg


sewing shop side..all the sunbrella you can want lol

http://img436.imageshack.us/img436/5646/dscf0007wn7.jpg

[Kajun]

decided to crank her over and see whats up......connected fuel and water... and started cranking...started breifly for about 2 seconds then died....lil more cranking and started again for 2 more seconds....now wont start..just cranks....fuel problem?

[Airslot]

Kajun, I can't really help with your current problems, other than to say that your making major headway. Is your buddy Dave in the top business? I'm ready to do something top wise.

Airslot

[Kajun]

ok i plugged up that fitting on the fuel pump...evidently its the vro oil intake fitting....and she started right up! *;D it prob was getting too much air in fuel pump and not creating a vaccum or something.

pisser was pissin strong! and motor sounds great..i ran it for about 5 mins tops...plus stopping and starting a bunch of times.....i didnt want to run it with out some type of overheat alarm system hooked up.......heads were both warm to the touch that i could tell......after the intial warmup ..she starts right up first crank...

packed motor away and went to work on pulling and disconnecting all the force wiring harness and stuff......next is jackplate ..i might just have to buy one new and be done with it :-/..but so far so good!!!


airslot.. nah all he does is awnings and that keeps him busy..he says boat tops are a PITA l..plus he knows the local marine canvas guys and doesnt want to break into their business........but he is fixin my cushions *;D

[Airslot]

Great news. Now its a race to see who, you or MJ, gets the first striped mullet.

Airslot

[Skools Out]

you should of called brother i was at the coast but, you did the right thing by plugging the oil inlet on pump that's all there is to disconnect the oil injection and the extra 2 wires on the t/t are in your manual back wiring area they are T/T gauge.

[Skools Out]

oh yeah those controls were high i just bought a complete set just like them off ebay from AL for $38 shipped with wiring, cables, and T/T in handle looks just like what you got.

[Kajun]

yea kinda figured they was high.. but i had been looking for a set on ebay and couldnt find anything..plus i really didnt know what i was looking for lol.....they had it all on one package and i was anxious to get it going so i bought it.

if i would have known ya number i would of called...lol


what do i do to rig up a overheat alarm? also how can i make sure its not overheating? shoud i buy one of those temperature crayons that melt at a certain temp?..if so what temp?

[shicks007]

Kajun,

Glad to hear ya got her fired up! Sound like it won't be long, the rockfish bite hasn't turned on anyway right :D

I think the alarm/buzzer should be with the controls. To test it, take the wire from eack temp sensor (located on each head, single wire (tan I think) and touch it to ground while the ignition switch in " on".

Anybody feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

[macojoe]

Nice job on the hoist!!

But I think I would add another caster to the legs were you welded the new to the old on the long leg, just for added suport. lot of persure there.

If your using side mount controls the alarm is in there and there is othing to do but wire the boat.

But if using Bincal which it looks like you are then alarm is seprate. mounted inside ther gunnel near the control. at least thats were mine was?

Manual will tell you which wire goes to it.

[reelapeelin]

Kajun, you makin' some pretty serious progress w/ your motor...on those T&T wires...green is down (where grass is)...blue is up (where the sky is)... only way I can remember stuff ;) ...plug that VRO and get ya an Accu-Mix bottle $3.99...I don't think rejettin is needed...plugged off VRO on my old Rude, best thing I ever did for her ;D ...

[macojoe]

Kajun, you makin' some pretty serious progress w/ your motor...on those T&T wires...green is down (where grass is)...blue is up (where the sky is)... only way I can remember stuff ...plug that VRO and get ya an Accu-Mix bottle $3.99...I don't think rejettin is needed...plugged off VRO on my old Rude, best thing I ever did for her ...

Ahh, who asked ;) :D ya??

[reelapeelin]

Ahh, who asked ;) :D ya??



Glad we caught ya inna good mood this morning, ya old phart ;D ;D ;D ;D :-* ...

[willy]

He is lovely in the morning ::)

[reelapeelin]

He is lovely in the morning ::)


Ain't we all, you old geezer ;) ...

[Kajun]

well i think i'm in bitness...just bought a jackplate...CMC powerlift ML-65 for $75.....gonna take it apart and clean it up tonight....and then dowel up the transom and hopefully by this weekend have it mounted :)

only thing is this JP weights 32lbs..plus my motor which is 378lbs...so right at 410 lbs i'm putting on this transom...my 120 force was only 300 lbs.......i hope it holds and dont sink my scuppers *:-/

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/9518/dscf0001sl4.jpg

[macojoe]

only thing is this JP weights 32lbs..plus my motor which is 378lbs...so right at 410 lbs i'm putting on this transom...my 120 force was only 300 lbs.......i hope it holds and dont sink my scuppers Undecided

The boat is rated for 200 hp, and most 150 to 175 go 390 or so. 32# extra anit going to hurt you!!!!!

[Blue_Runner]

Nice jackplate. $75 is gooooood!

You outta be ok with the weight. I know you must be happy :D

[Stinky_Hooker]

MJ, what boat rated for 200? the 18? Mine is 150 :-/

[Seacrets]

They're 150 hp, but you should be fine. Take a fat guy fishing and make him sit in the bow.

[Kajun]

its rated for a 150 2-stroke when it has a brand new transom...but 16yrs later i'm sure it not all kosher inside thats whats worrying me ...but only one way to find out though...

[Seacrets]

You'll be fine. Gotta have faith.

[macojoe]

MJ, what boat rated for 200? the 18? Mine is 150 Undecided


V20 site I forget we talk about anything else!! :-[

[Skools Out]

you'll be ok no fear just say sink or swim we going fishing lol

[Kajun]

uh...somehow i didnt get a warm and fuzzy feeling reading that lol

[Kajun]

last night i tested the temp switches to see if the horn would go off...they dont...i unplugged them and touched them to the head..nothing....bad switches? anyway to test them?

[Skools Out]

not really a test unless you torch them lol

[reelapeelin]

not really a test unless you torch them lol


Stick 'em in boilin' water??...

[Airslot]

If you grounded the wires to the head and got nothing, that sounds like the horn/buzzer not functioning?

Airslot

[Kajun]

the horn works every other way...when i turn key over it beeps.. i connected some VRO wires without the pump and i got a steady alarm......gonna try boiling them this weekend.

[Skools Out]

read them they should have a temp set point wrote on them. Then make sure they operate at the correct temp. they may have been hot at some point and either be set to go off to hot now or none at all.

[Kajun]

ok i'll check them out this weekend..gonna boil them...any idea on how much these things are to replace?

i'm starting to think about just selling the motor and take the money and buy a lighter 300lb 20" motor....i may have a water or rot problem in my transom...i overdrilled one of the lower 1/4" force mount holes to 1/2" and didnt really like what i saw...wood was kinda wet and dark...and here i am about to add 410lbs to it instead of the 300lbs it had on it....

seems like i could just put a 300lbs engine on it and get alil more life out of it or just sell it...replacing the transom is not an option for me now since i'm moving to florida soon...i got a ton of things to do like getting my house ready to be sold...which in this market is not gonna be easy.

[Kajun]

how long does 5200 fast cure take to cure?? i doweled my old mount holes saturday and drilled my new holes...i used "5200 fast cure" out of a tube..no mixing... and today it is STILL not hard...it feels like rubber...

all new holes i drilled the wood was nice and clean,fresh...but i did notice slight dampness in some of it..... its not rotten atleast so i'm gonna go ahead with it..if my transom falls off ,so be it..i'm missing striper and catfish season in my last winter in VA.

[Seacrets]

Hope you used hardwood dowels. I would have gone with two part epoxy and coated the holes and the dowels. I would've recessed the dowels and put a final layer of marinetex over the holes. Let set up, sand and finish.

[Kajun]

yup i used hardwood... and yup i recessed them..but i filled the recessed area with 5200..was gonna wait till it hardened..then sand flush with gelcoat and then cover with marine tex....while the 5200 is rubbery..think i should drill out the recessed area that has 5200 in it now and fill it with marine tex?

heres some pics..

http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/7071/dscf0001pv2.jpg

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/6743/dscf0006qj2.jpg

jackplate with all corrosion removed, greased & ready to go...

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/3597/dscf0010ff1.jpg

[Skools Out]

all 5200 i ever used has stayed rubber like never gets hard enough to sand.

[Kajun]

well dang i thought this stuff was supposed to be like cement when it hardens..i'm gonna drill out the recessed areas and fill it with marine tex then...

[Skools Out]

just trim it off with a razorblade and bolt the jackplate over it.

[shicks007]

That 5200 is tough stuff, but like Skools said, Iv'e never seen it get hard. I think it's silicone based. Good stuff though. It makes a great permanant adhesive.

[Kajun]

i ended up filling it with marine tex...yea its good stuff lol hard as hell to remove too.

[macojoe]

If the Jack plate was going to cover the holes, then thats all I would have done.

If you going to see the holes then I would have gone marinetex.

That wood on the floor looked good to me!! I think you will be ok for a long time to come!

If still not sure, when you get the motor on there grab it from the lower unit while up in the air and try to move it around, if you hear cracking or the glass seems to be moving then you in trouble!!

Hit with rubber mallet and listen for dead spots, when the wood rots it will delamanate and sound hollow and might even move when hitting!

400# motor, any 150+ is going to be close to 400, so I tink you better stay with the power!