Boat sunk

[whopper55]

Help. Is ther a method to save aboat and motor after being underwater for 5 days. My boat up and sank tue night cause unknown at this time . Just scrambling to get it raised. Water is very cold I lasted i.5 min without wet suit. Trying to hauul boat by the bow eyelry to shallow water. Any ideas and thought are greatly appreciated. If its to much to type call my cell 7575707832. I have borrowed a wet suit. Thank the load wasn't looking forward for another swim.

Whopper55

[macojoe]

Get the motor off and into a fresh water tank, and cover with water ASAP, leave it that way till you can get to work on it!

When the air gets to it thats when the crap is going to happen!!

I have a friend that had a motor down for a week two years ago and it still runs today!

Took to mariner and they flushed it all and oil everything! They did replace a few things but wasn't that bad. Better then buying a new motor!

As for the boat, run fresh water thur it and wash down, then like (I forgot who Skools?) get under cover and put a fan on a opening and let it blow 24/7 and it will dry it out in no time!

You are going to have to rewire the boat I am sure?

Good Luck!!

[msbhammer]

WHOPPER, Where you located at ? How deep ?
Have dive gear. If at a dock and in shallow water, see if the local fire dept. will lend you a pump to pump the water out. take Pics.

[reelapeelin]

Just talked w/ Whopper... he hasn't gotten back to a PC yet to read your offers of help, but appreciates them a lot...


Sounds like he's got it under control ...has flotation to stick in or under the hull to get it up, then motor straight to mech and hull to fiberglass man...stuff he was gonna do anyway...


...at this point, he's not sure why she went down ...floatin' at 11 pm...on bottom next am at 6 ... he'll let us know what he finds once it's up...


...he's in a better frame of mind than I would be...I'd be goin' BERZERK :o ...

[Pipe_Dream]

That quick, sounds like a thru-hull fitting. :'(

[reelapeelin]

That quick, sounds like a thru-hull fitting. :'(



I asked him about thru-hulls...said there were none ...said he was already plannin' new transom, so somethin' mighta failed there... :P ...

[Skools Out]

could have filled to the top inside with diesel fuel and let sit hose down the outside with fresh water. but you don't want to fill with water fill block with diesel fuel like all marina's will do to pickle one after a sinking.

[Blue_Runner]

Or fill with Marvel Mystery oil.

My 17 sank 3 years ago. It was a 70 hp Johnson in fresh water. Was down for I don't know how long 5 - 6 hours or more?

I really hate to hear that whopper. Here's what I was instructed to do when my 17 sank. I had excellent results:

1 - As soon as I got it out on dry land I pulled all plugs and tilted motor down to let any water drain out. Next, get yourself ALOT of Marvel Mystery Oil. Tilt motor up and fill all cylinders with Mystery oil. Still in up position, turn flywheel by hand to work in the Mystery oil. Then tilt down and let the oil drain. Still in down, turn flywheel by hand to get more oil out.

2 - Repeat this procedure at least 5 times. On last time, hook to battery and turn motor over several times to blow out any remaining mystery oil.

3 - Put plugs in and crank motor.

That's what I did. I cannot in no way shape or form guarantee this but I do know of another person that did this and it was like the motor never sunk. Same way with my 70 - it actually ran better after sinking ;)

I don't know if this procedure would be recommended for a saltwater submersion, but I don't know. Depends on how much you want to pay a professional mechanic that may not be able to get any better results than you.

First things first, I wish I knew how to help you raise her :-[

Good luck!!

Blue

[msbhammer]

Did he have a bilge pump ??

[Crusher]

A boat in a slip near mine sank this season, Transom plug was expandable type w/lever, Lever corrided away, pump ran battery dead :( Crusher

[whopper55]

Thanks to everybody on feedback and offered help. I'm down here in Hampton Va. On the hampton creek.I have managed with help from friends and neighbors to put together enoungh gear to raise the Titanic. Air compressors , high vol. sump pumps and assorted straps,chains ropes pullies and all manner of things. The best news is that my son's girlfriends' dad had wetsuits that fit. My uncle, retired NASA engineer even offered to bring over Ford farm tractor to just hook on front and pull up into the marsh. You got to look out for those serious engineer types. I will take photos and let you'll know what I find out. On the plug question I put a new one in every year the screw type not lever kind. Called techniian and he is ready for me if all goes well. I was going to have to take moter off anyway to have transom redone. This might even motivate me to do it all myself . I have all winter and I won't be doing much stripper fishing from now on. I did have a great day last week and got my limit on keeper strippers. I also caught my first Togs. Great eats.

[lumberslinger178]

good luck whopper :-/

[reelapeelin]

Well I remember the 1st pictures of "On The Fly's" v20 all turtled up in the slip...heartbreaker for sure...the more recent pix he posted were of one of the finer examples of a V20 I've ever seen ... so, no doubt Whopper, you've got some work ahead, but, it'll all be worth it once done ;) ...


...if ya can, get some pix of ''the raising'' and keep us posted on progress over the off-season ...we're pullin' for ya ;D ...

[Hammerhead]

Whopper, Sorry to hear that. My lil'Bonito with a 115 Rude sunk twice. Both times I raised and got it running within an hour. Book sez ya have two hours to get it goin'.

This is what ya need. Tools, Two fully charged batteries. another starter in case the ol'one won't crank. A new set of plugs. Fire extinguster ( just in case ) Can of fresh fuel and extra can of gas. About a gallon of alcohol. Lots of WD-40. A can of quick start. Have these ready to go before you raise the motor.

*The minute you get it out pull the plugs, hose the whole motor off with fresh water and then WD-40, tape off the plug wires real good so no arcs occur. drain the carbs, hook up the new batt. Hook up fresh water flush ears on water intake. Crank it over and spray alcohol thru the carb bores...let it cycle thru the clylinders. Then spray the WD-40 the same way for a few minutes. Replace the plugs and hook the wires back up. hook up fresh fuel mix and try and start it. Use the Quick start if need be. repeat till it starts. When it does start let it run for about 30 minutes. Once you have it running you're almost home. If you have to replace the starter.

I went thru this process twice, two years apart. My 115 ran for another 8 years w/o problems.

If you can't get it to run within a couple hours flush it out with water and oil and seal the carb bores to keep air out until you can get to a mech...OR.. If you hava 55gal drum set in in upside down and fill with water.

Good luck. I know the first time mine sunk at the dock I about cried and with much trepidation went thru the instructions in a Clymers book to get it running. The second time wasn't near as stressful. The starter may be toast but if ya get the salt outta the crank and jugs it should be repairable if you can't start it right away.
Warning...if you let it sit..it will freeze up and need a total rebuild and might as well buy a new one.

I hope this helps.

Added not; Mine did catch fire for a minute the first time due to a plug wire arc... Be careful.

[macojoe]

Good Luck!!

And take plenty of pic's as she rises!! we want to see all!!

[Kajun]

oh man that sucks! :( i hope everything comes out ok with it...good luck and keep us updated as much ya can.

[TheTinMan]

whopper, sorry man, that must be a horrible feeling finding your boat like that. :'( :'( :'( Hope you can salvage the motor.

I have a feeling that it will be better, stonger and faster than before! ;) Good luck.....and post pics of the work!

[Airslot]

Whopper, sorry to hear about this, I know how ya feel. You'll get her up and she'll be better than she was after a little TLC.

Best of Luck,

Airslot

[Mac_Attack]

Like the rest of the fellas here I'm sorry to hear about your boat. Good luck and as it is always said pictures pictures pictures. Billy Mac >:(

[msbhammer]

Anymore gossip on how she went down. Any pics. yet. 8)

[whopper55]

well got it up last night. Man was the water cold even with a wet suit.taking to mech this morning. I hope I did everything right last night. Tides and weather were not helping. I do have some pics and will post later. the front runner in cause right now is that the siphon hose on bilge started a reverse flow and sank her slowly. That or transom went down low enough from rain and water entered thru the cable hole on side og engine well. I will know more when i get it completely out and can examine the transom and bottom.

[TheTinMan]

well got it up last night.

Lucky you! ;)

Seriously, hope it all works out for you.

[Blue_Runner]

Glad you got her up. Thanks for the update and best of luck to you.

Blue

[shicks007]

Glad to hear you got her up. Let me know if I can do anything to help.

[reelapeelin]

Glad to hear she's up, Whop ...keep us posted... ;) ...

[macojoe]

Great news!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Hammerhead]

Like I wrote, BTDT twice. I definatly feel your pain. Best'o'luck with gettin' it goin'.

[Kajun]

awesome....good to hear!

what kind of problem can sinking do to the hull besides electrical? will this rot the stringers and transom?

[msbhammer]

Wifey is always happy when I "get it up". :P :P :P :P

[whopper55]

Well It was time to replace transom. I could spin all engine bolts by hand. All that 5200 I put in this summer must not have had much to hold on to. Not much leakage but that plus the overflow on transom and the wire hole just overcame the bilge . It did not take long for the battery posts and wires to disolve. The real bad news was that the nachos did not make it. The good news was that my supply of slim jims survived. I did find out the cause of the overflow on transom. One of my neighbors has been ignoring the no wake zone at night coming back from late night stripper trips. We caught him last night. Turned him in I hope they sink the wonderful fellow.

[lumberslinger178]

gald to hear your ur up and dry..... get us some pics asap ;D

[Skools Out]

go pull his plug and drill holes at a 45 to sink his in return.

[phester]

go pull his plug and drill holes at a 45 to sink his in return.
skools, why a 45*.....curious ???

[Skools Out]

so they leak slowly till he gets under way then as it moves the boat takes on water like a pick up tube lol.

[phester]

gotchya, tricky devil, you got any experience doing that? ;D

[phester]

whopper, sorry about your boat going down, but you salvaged it quickly so more than likely the hull is fine. BTW, I think it was StinkyHooker that kept a fan blowing thru his hatches/hull just to keep things dry as can be. You should be o.k. Don't have much experience w/ submerged motors, personally or otherwise. I'm just going to say good luck w/that.....from all the advise already given I'm sure you got a good game plan for what's best to do.

[msbhammer]

Whopper, where are those pics brother. ;D

[lumberslinger178]

so they leak slowly till he gets under way then as it moves the boat takes on water like a pick up tube lol.
LOL sounds like you've done this before ::)

[msbhammer]

Damm, I feel like Fishbone here. I'm being ignored. LOL ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

[reelapeelin]

I did find out the cause of the overflow on transom. One of my neighbors has been ignoring the no wake zone at night coming back from late night stripper trips. We caught him last night. Turned him in I hope they sink the wonderful fellow.

Glad ya caught the guy...who do ya turn him in TO?...

Congrats on the Slim Jims... ;) ;D ...

[whopper55]

Motor is running now for the electronics

[Skools Out]

That's Grrrrrrrrrrreat!!!

[msbhammer]

Still no pics. :'(

[reelapeelin]

Motor is running now for the electronics



GREAT!! ... that always amazes me after a dunkin' ;) ...Congratulations 8) ...

[macojoe]

Great news!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Blue_Runner]

That is some good news! What did you have to do, how hard was it, how long did it take, what was the worst part, yada yada yada??

Details. Give us the mental pictures :D

[msbhammer]

So whatever happened to the pics. :'(

[whopper55]

Got issues with camara. It's at shop. along with the boat. Pick up both Monday. The bill for repairs if shop does all the work will be 2300. I hope to cut it down to 700 if i do all the work. Might be able to do better with some creative buying and scronging. I will start next week on the shopping list when i get the boat home and can do a full inventory.

[Stillrunning]

I have a 1983 V-20 CC which sunk about 4 years ago and the engine a 1994 150 johnson and is still running strong. With the repairs that we needed to do I decided to replace my transom myself at the same time. It was not that bad of a job and we made the repair by taking the boat apart and replacing from the inside. While the boat was apart it gave me good time to check the stringers and everything else which is under the flooring. If you want the details of how we did this let me know and I'll be glaid to give you the details of how we did the job.

[msbhammer]

Stillrunning, post some pics. of your transom repair. *;D

[Stillrunning]

Stillrunning, post some pics. of your transom repair. *;DAt the time I never thought about taking pics of the repair but at the time I did not know sites like this even existed. The repair was fairly easy to do which surprised me and I'd be more than happy to explain to anyone how we went about doing the job.

[whopper55]

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g230/poisinivy12345/boat001.jpg

[whopper55]

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g230/poisinivy12345/boat036.jpg

[reelapeelin]

Great pic, Whop ... 8) ... was that taken after the dunkin'? ...


...looks like me 'n you postin' same time ... my question was about the 1st pic...2nd pic every boaters NIGHTMARE :P ...

[whopper55]

First is the day I bought it. 3 years ago. Second was my nightmare. I'm now out of denial and trying to decide the big issue. Take two years and couple of 1000 $ and do everything myself. Motor runs great? I don't get it. If I was was in salt water for 5 days. I would puck pistons all over the place. I 'm going to get hold of the guy that redid the 83 and start collecting information for the job. Start with all the the sites and start the process of scronging parts and equipment to put it all together again. Transom and stringers are a must.

[reelapeelin]

Good luck, Whop!! ...pics and info on how she comes along ...you know how we like 'em ;) :D ...


...glad to hear motor runnin' so good ... keep 'er pickled REEL good ;) ...

[Kajun]

oh man..that is a nightmare! glad to hear the motor runs though!

[msbhammer]

WOW. :-[
How long was she under. Would the transom and stringers be comprised ?

[macojoe]

Great pictures!! Now if you had a dome on there might have been the first V20 Sub!

WOW. Embarassed
How long was she under. Would the transom and stringers be comprised ?


You lazy!! ;) ;D It was down 5 days, and the transom needed repair before it went down.

[Stillrunning]

First is the day I bought it. 3 years ago. Second was my nightmare. I'm now out of denial and trying to decide the big issue. Take two years and couple of 1000 $ and do everything myself. Motor runs great? I don't get it. If I was was in salt water for 5 days. I would puck pistons all over the place. I 'm going to get hold of the guy that redid the 83 and start collecting information for the job. Start with all the the sites and start the process of scronging parts and equipment to put it all together again. Transom and stringers are a must.
I'd be more than glad to show you what we did and how we did the job on the transom. We found my stringers to still be in good shape and only had to beef up a few. We also rewired the boat and I have an easy method which just about anyone could do. I live in Suffolk Va. not far from you and would be more than glad to help with any info you would want. I did the job with help from two friend and none of us had never replaced a transom but we did have experience some experence with fiberglass. The job is not near as tough as it looks. Message me with your number and I'll give you a call. I had a 1994 150 Johnson on mine when it sank and its still running great after 5 years.

[whopper55]

I work in chesapeake on Battlefield . Next to Sams Club. Fatburgers Rest, Cell # 7575707832

[whopper55]

Answer for the stringers. i was going to do them any way. Wood particals coming out from under the deck area into the bilge pump well area. Trnsom was a must.

[Stillrunning]

I work in chesapeake on Battlefield . Next to Sams Club. Fatburgers Rest, Cell # 7575707832
Sorry I have not given you a call but we had a baby a few weeks past and things have been a little busy. I'll give you a call this weekend or you can give me a call at 436-7800 which is a week day number.

[whopper55]

Is it a boy or girl? A member to the V-20 club. Thats great. I have been busy too. I will call this afternoon

[reelapeelin]

Hey Whopper...if ya can post any pics of the reconstruction it'd be GREAT!!... :D ...

[whopper55]

Iwill. When weather breaks . I will start the demolition in a couple of weeks. Got to locat engine lift ,then I will start on hull.

[Kajun]

whopper i have a engine lift in norfolk if ya need to use it to pull motor off....if ya looking to buy one i picked this one up at harbor freight for alil over $100...i have some 20% off coupons

[whopper55]

your on / If you work near battlefield Blvd. Call me 5707832. I run the Fatburger Rest near Sams. I'm good for lunch.

Chic

[Stillrunning]

We just backed the boat to where we wanted the motor lowered the engin till it hit the ground. Then unbolted the engin and four of us leaned it against a tree and chained and locked it up. Let me know when and if you want to run through how we did my transom job. Bryan