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randlemanboater
02-20-2007, 12:27 PM
My new V has some shiney spots but is mostly chalky (not real bad). *Are the shiney spots wax or clearcoat?
Do I need to remove them or just go over them as I do the rest?
Next question: *Whats best to shine up the chalky part, the guy gave me a bottle of 3M Marine Fiberglass Cleaner and Wax. *Anyone use this?
http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r222/randlemanboater/101_0096.jpg
randlemanboater
02-20-2007, 01:42 PM
Well, I tried a small area with the 3M, it did ok but I think I will need to use a power buffer for two reasons.
I didn't get the shine I wanted, and I aint gonna do the whole @#$%$! boat by hand.
THEFERMANATOR
02-20-2007, 02:10 PM
I would recomend using ORPINE soap with wax once you get those spots buffed out. I had a boat that I used some cleaner on and it left it chalky(took the wax off) and the ORPINE with wax brought it right back. Plus it has a really nice pine scent that lasts. Normally an ACE hardware has it.
chumbucket
02-20-2007, 02:36 PM
Wet sand. ;) 8)
spareparts
02-20-2007, 02:44 PM
i took my old Mitchell to the car wash and blasted the chalk off of it( took about $10 worth of quarters). After I got home, I let it dry for a day, I went back and put several heavy coats of wax on it, I wasn't too worried about how good of a job of polishing it, just getting wax on it. Then I started buffing it with a cleaner wax. One of the boat detailers told me to try it this way, the wax gets in the gel so it makes buffing it easier, and it keeps it from absorbing all the buffing compound into the raw gel. Worked pretty good for a boat that probably hadn't been waxed in 15 years.
macojoe
02-20-2007, 03:22 PM
My 32 year old V has not seen any wax since 1999 and I like it that way!! ;D
I use it, spray the salt off and use it again!
When there is tree $hit and blood all over it I bleach it hose it off and use it!!
No time for playing when the fish are biting!!
Blue_Runner
02-20-2007, 04:52 PM
Come on out you CLOSET WAXER!!
msbhammer
02-20-2007, 05:30 PM
Randleman, some guys used teh 3m wax and said it was great. I used it and wasnt impressed at all. The cost of it was well over priced as well. Power wash that baby and do a quick compound and wax job. She'll be fine. Great pics. ;)
Mulv80
02-20-2007, 05:58 PM
Randleman, I think that boat has been painted and what you see coming through is the original gellcoat. Try and wet sand or strip the paint off the hull and follow with 3M Fiberglass cleaner.
Mulv80
02-20-2007, 06:05 PM
Not great pics but all I got. I wet sanded the top sides and waxed by hand with 3M Fiberglass Restorer. I didnt sand the hull sides only waxed.
before
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c374/rtmulv/100_1567.jpg
after
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c374/rtmulv/wellcrafttop2.jpg
Mulv80
02-20-2007, 06:06 PM
Why is that picture so small ??? You can still see how much brighter the boat came up in the second pic.
frayed_knot
02-20-2007, 10:57 PM
I think you sanded too much, you made it shrink.
Mulv80
02-20-2007, 11:39 PM
;D
msbhammer
02-20-2007, 11:44 PM
The small issue sounds like a personal problem, but I hear doctors can fix that problem now. ;D
randlemanboater
02-21-2007, 02:18 AM
Randleman, *I think that boat has been painted and what you see coming through is the original gellcoat. *Try and wet sand or strip the paint off the hull and follow with 3M Fiberglass cleaner.
I don't see any evidence that the boat has been painted, other than the obvious bottom paint.
On my way out the door to work I looked at the area I did this morning and it actually looks pretty good, I guess the sun got in the right spot.
I think I'll do more with the 3M (it was free) and see how it goes. It really brought back the colors in the stripes.
randlemanboater
02-21-2007, 02:19 AM
Nice looking V Mulv!!! :)
Stillrunning
02-21-2007, 12:17 PM
I used this stuff and was more than happy with the results. Its three steps. 1-scrub the boat with their boat cleaner which removes stains and oxidation. 2-Wash boat with their boat soap to remove all of the first cleaner. 3-paint on the vertgal glass which you have to do in several coats but it goes on quick and very easy. Look at the pictures on the site of boats that used this system and they are the same results I had and it will also bring the shine back to your stripes. I did around 6 coats on my haul and it took about 2 hours of easy work. Cleaning the boat is the hard part. Then every year add a few coats and it will bring the shine back if it even faded at all. I have found with wax it last only about a month before it starts to lose its shine and this stuff lasted all year. It also last longer with the more coats you use.
http://www.marinestore.com/index.html?cart=3254893623270190
Stinky_Hooker
02-21-2007, 01:06 PM
If it has glossy spots then the gelcoat is probably fine. Go spend 20 bucks and find out. Get some good hull cleaner like On/off and some fiberglass wax and restorer. Clean it good and then wax a spot...It will brighten right up I promise u!
Gel coat is VERY tough...that "chalkyness" is just a sign of poor maintenance, not a bad hull.
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macojoe
02-21-2007, 01:24 PM
Just don't get that On/Off on your trailer!! It will turn it black!!
I have a brand new trailer with a black tounge cause my friend layed a rag there.
Stinky_Hooker
02-21-2007, 01:42 PM
Yes It will eat up galvanize too...and asphalt....just rinse all of it off quickly and you will be fine. I do mine on the trailer and its fine as long as u keep it rinsed.
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