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phatdaddy
03-20-2007, 11:22 PM
I need some help from the gurus on the board. 150 merc(94) when the boat sits for a couple of days, the battery is drained. I am sure it is in the outboard & not the electronics or cabin. i can isolate them. My question is what would be drawing down that much on the motor that would not be obvious( starter, trim, key switch, etc.) If you guys can shed some light, i'll be grateful.

charlie_the_tuna
03-20-2007, 11:27 PM
uuuuhhhhh. . . . . . . . .







battery switch.

Airslot
03-20-2007, 11:27 PM
Clean the top of your battery and all connections. Dirt on the battery top can cause what you describe.

msbhammer
03-20-2007, 11:42 PM
I was surprised yesyurday when replacing my cables. After a season of beating around in the bay, my terminals were found to be loose. :-/

Airslot
03-20-2007, 11:46 PM
Locknuts my man, locknuts ;D

msbhammer
03-21-2007, 12:07 AM
I agree with ya AIR, Boat buddy said the same thing. Get rid of the wing nuts !!

Airslot
03-21-2007, 12:23 AM
Wingnuts have no place on a boat. ;)

phatdaddy
03-21-2007, 12:48 AM
I will take a look at the connectors. I notice when i connect the + cable to the battery, there is spark. i know a small arc is normal, but this seems a little excessive. would this indicate a bad ground somewhere on the motor. I hate electrical problems. thanks

spareparts
03-21-2007, 12:53 AM
disconnect the negative cable, put a test light in series between the negative cable and the negative terminal, if you have a drain, the light will come on, disconnect stuff till the light goes off, there's your drain, take a look at the rectifyer/ regulator,. Leave the battery disconnected and see if it still goes down, might be time for a new one

phatdaddy
03-21-2007, 01:22 AM
good ideas, I'll put the light on it tomorrow. I only have one battery and no switch, so that is not a prob. i only have 4 wires going to the bat. electronics, cabin/dash, bilge pump, & motor. I'll check each one individually & go from there.

Airslot
03-21-2007, 10:56 AM
Sounds like a plan. I'm still a one battery guy myself, but I do carry a portable Jump Box with me all the time, well, almost all the time ;D

phatdaddy
03-21-2007, 12:27 PM
I want to add another battery & i know they will fit in the hatch openings on either side, but i am trying to figure out how to put a shelf in the bottom of the hull.


I was thinking of going from the stringer to the side of the hull . The single battery is now on a shelf between the stringers in the rear.
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e203/ffatdaddy/freshwatertankport.jpg

spareparts
03-21-2007, 03:07 PM
my v-20 had a shelf large enough for two batteries, i just didn't like where they were, see the topic battery location under modifications for pics

randlemanboater
03-21-2007, 09:06 PM
Wingnuts have no place on a boat. ;)

Hey, I really like them. They look good and impress the ladies............Oh, you said wing nuts. I thought you said wingtips.

phatdaddy
03-21-2007, 09:07 PM
I put the test light in series on the neg cable & the neg post. no light, i pulled all wires of & i will test voltage tomorrow & see if it holds voltage overnight. thanks for the help..

reelapeelin
03-22-2007, 09:32 AM
phat...in your pic above...can you put a horizontal cleat front and back, then a shelf?... :D ...

Airslot
03-22-2007, 10:20 AM
REEL, that would work as I have the same setup in my boat, less the plumbing. I've thought of doing that, my oil tank sits where the 2nd battery would be.

reelapeelin
03-22-2007, 12:26 PM
REEL, that would work as I have the same setup in my boat, less the plumbing. I've thought of doing that, my oil tank sits where the 2nd battery would be.



Could make the shelf easily removable to access below?...need to?...

phatdaddy
03-22-2007, 09:00 PM
I was planning that, but i didn't want to screw into the transom for the rear cleat. I talked to a friend of mine who does fiberglass repairs on boats and he suggested epoxying two strips of teak on there( one on the transom & one on the inside of the liner). I liked that. but then i wondered if the weight of the battery bouncing would shear them off? That's when i thought about laying across the stringer and on the hull. i think you are right you would need to have access below.

reelapeelin
03-23-2007, 09:47 AM
I like the idea of epoxying cleats on, but done properly, screws will be just as effective and safe from water intrusion...again, done right, bouncing battery shouldn't shear cleats...if in bow, it'd be a concern ;) ...

macojoe
03-23-2007, 08:29 PM
screwed on with SS screws and 5200 will never leak and be stronger then any glued cleat would ever be!!

tsubaki
03-23-2007, 10:34 PM
If your not opposed to installing a battery shut off switch this might solve the problems however be sure to connect the bilge pump at the battery (fused) if the boats in the water. Voltage could be leaking most anywhere, solonoid, fuse panel, light switch or even main feeder wire with cracked insulation. Be sure to get the one you need (one or two battery) and don't buy the cheapest one.

phatdaddy
03-24-2007, 01:53 AM
I need a switch anyway, i was just hoping to have a 2 battery set up. I've only owned the boat 16 years so you can see how fast i get things done. I've narrowed the drain down to one of the two sets of red wires that comes off of the hot side of the solenoid switch. They go under the plate on the back of the block. I don't know what they do, but one set is drawing constant juice. I'll try to do some more investigating

spareparts
03-24-2007, 12:07 PM
voltage regulator

phatdaddy
03-24-2007, 10:53 PM
might have found the culprit, bad float switch for the bilge pump. wire was corroded off at the base & laying in a puddle of water in the bilge. i hooked the battery to the two leads from the motor and will let it set overnight. hope this is it, cheaper than a volt reg.

phatdaddy
03-25-2007, 02:21 PM
Battery held overnight, no voltage drop. switch replaced. loading drinks, coolers ,fishing poles, kids, etc. heading to the island, highs mid 80's & spanish are running. thanks for the help, all....

msbhammer
03-25-2007, 04:27 PM
Mid 80's :'( its like 45 here in Delaware. :'(

randlemanboater
03-25-2007, 05:46 PM
Its 82 and sunny here in central NC. ;D

macojoe
03-25-2007, 06:30 PM
Current conditions as of 3:56 pm EDT

Fair
Feels Like: 37°
Barometer: 30.45 in and steady
Humidity: 60%
Visibility: 10 mi
Dewpoint: 30°
Wind: NNE 10 mph
Sunrise: 6:36 am

phatdaddy
03-25-2007, 11:14 PM
hang in there hammer & mj. its coming your way. *I'll trade with you *i n august when its 95* and 110% humidity. *