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Stillrunning
03-30-2007, 11:59 AM
I'm looking to add a raw water wash down and I really do not know much about what to look for when purchasing. I have a 1983 CC and have room under the splash well to the left of the batteries. I know to use a brass pickup and a brass shut off valve but not sure what size pump to purchase to get the desired water preasure. The pump will be located close to the thru hull pick up and I do know that I need one thats self priming. Any ideas and thoughts would help and also I need to know who would have the best prices for ordering this stuff. Thanks for any help.
Stillrunning
03-30-2007, 11:59 AM
I'm looking to add a raw water wash down and I really do not know much about what to look for when purchasing. I have a 1983 CC and have room under the splash well to the left of the batteries. I know to use a brass pickup and a brass shut off valve but not sure what size pump to purchase to get the desired water preasure. The pump will be located close to the thru hull pick up and I do know that I need one thats self priming. Any ideas and thoughts would help and also I need to know who would have the best prices for ordering this stuff. Thanks for any help.
Stillrunning
03-30-2007, 11:59 AM
I'm looking to add a raw water wash down and I really do not know much about what to look for when purchasing. I have a 1983 CC and have room under the splash well to the left of the batteries. I know to use a brass pickup and a brass shut off valve but not sure what size pump to purchase to get the desired water preasure. The pump will be located close to the thru hull pick up and I do know that I need one thats self priming. Any ideas and thoughts would help and also I need to know who would have the best prices for ordering this stuff. Thanks for any help.
Stillrunning
03-30-2007, 03:17 PM
I'd offer advise but I have same issues. Maybe someone else can help out?
Stillrunning
03-30-2007, 03:17 PM
I'd offer advise but I have same issues. Maybe someone else can help out?
Stillrunning
03-30-2007, 03:17 PM
I'd offer advise but I have same issues. Maybe someone else can help out?
Stinky_Hooker
03-30-2007, 04:15 PM
I got one of these and love it. Plenty of power, auto shut off, self priming, etc...
http://www.boatersworld.com/product/357401371.htm
PS: DONT buy your washdown waterhose from the boat store. Go to Home Depot of Lowes and get one of the coiled 25 or 50' hoses for 15 bucks. ;)
Stillrunning
03-30-2007, 05:23 PM
Is it best to have the tru hull in the hull or transom. The only thing I could figure is that if it in the transom I could not use while running the boat. What size thru Hull did you use 3/4" and you get plenty of water preasure with that unit. I'd rather spen a few bucks more to get higher preasure if needed.
Stinky_Hooker
03-30-2007, 10:19 PM
I got a 3/4" thru hull in the bilge floor so water while running isnt a problem. Im not sure how it would work on the transom....depends on speed and how much hull is in the water I reckon. :-/
spareparts
03-30-2007, 10:20 PM
on the water pick up thru the bottom, scoop or just plain thru hull?
reelapeelin
03-30-2007, 11:42 PM
on the water pick up thru the bottom, scoop or just plain thru hull?
Ideally one of these...
http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product/10001/-1/10001/161611/10001/217/70/11
...but shop around...it shouldn't be too hard to beat Worst Marine's price ;) ...
phatdaddy
03-31-2007, 12:57 AM
I mounted a transom pump with a scoop i made out of a PVC 45*. when running, i don't need to run the pump. it is probaly not strong enough for a wash down , great for a live well.
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e203/ffatdaddy/POL_0259.jpg
side view
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e203/ffatdaddy/POL_0260.jpg
macojoe
03-31-2007, 01:01 AM
I am going to do the same thing! Just wanted to known the best place for the pick up.
I have a great pick up for a Rule Pump, I will have bto get a pic for you guys.
Stinky_Hooker
04-01-2007, 08:14 PM
Mines just thru hull, but Raps idea would be great too. i like that fitting. 8)
lumberslinger178
04-01-2007, 09:16 PM
now ya guys got me thinkin :o :o :o :o maybe i want one ;D
Skools Out
04-01-2007, 09:28 PM
you don't need a 45* you can just cut the pipe off at a 45 facing forward.
phatdaddy
04-02-2007, 01:02 AM
i tried that but the nipple of the pump sets off the transom about 3/8". *by putting the 45 on, it lets the fitting rest against the hull and i gobberd some 5200 to tack it in place. *i like the system but the pumps have a short life because it is under water except when running. *i generally have to replace it every 2 years. you can see the gap in the last shot
Stillrunning
04-02-2007, 12:02 PM
Thanks for the help and ideas. I've decided to go thu the hull as I have plenty of room to work with under the splash well. I will have to pull the batteries to access the area but thats only for some working room when installing. The wife is going to get me one for my birthday so now I just need to pick out the proper unit.
Blue_Runner
04-02-2007, 02:54 PM
Washdown is awesome. I wash my boat in the lake all the time. Nice for cooling off on a hot day without having to get in the water too.
Mine is a Shurflow.
Stillrunning
04-02-2007, 03:10 PM
Washdown is awesome. *I wash my boat in the lake all the time. * Nice for cooling off on a hot day without having to get in the water too.
Mine is a Shurflow.
I still have a few questions which maybe you could help with.
1. How many GPM do I need for good water flow and preasure?
2. What size plumbing did you use 3/4?
3. Should I go with an automatic (cuts on when you squess the nozzel) with a kill swith or one which works by the switch only?
4.I have decided that a dry run pump is one thing I do want.
spareparts
04-02-2007, 11:24 PM
if you use a thru hull, make sure you install a seacock(ball valve) in case something breaks, you can turn it off
macojoe
04-03-2007, 12:07 AM
Ok I use to do the live well much like phatdaddy, But we had a guy making us a pipe for a rule 500 or 800 that looked like this worked great, I use to have like 10 of these but gave them away as I no use any more.
My last one
http://syncboard.com/albums/Boat-Tackle-Box/Picture_021_Medium.sized.jpg
http://syncboard.com/albums/Boat-Tackle-Box/Picture_022_Medium.sized.jpg
http://syncboard.com/albums/Boat-Tackle-Box/Picture_023_Medium.sized.jpg
http://syncboard.com/albums/Boat-Tackle-Box/Picture_024_Medium.sized.jpg
Now as for the wash down and possible bilge pump I am thinking of these, I have 2.
http://syncboard.com/albums/Boat-Tackle-Box/Picture_027_Medium.sized.jpg
http://syncboard.com/albums/Boat-Tackle-Box/Picture_028_Medium.jpg
http://syncboard.com/albums/Boat-Tackle-Box/Picture_032_Medium.sized.jpg
http://syncboard.com/albums/Boat-Tackle-Box/Picture_034_Medium.sized.jpg
As you can see it says self priming to 3 feet, I was thinking of using as bilge cause I have 0 room in the bilge for a pump, what you think??
Then the other will be a wash down, but not sure I want to add a raw water or get a fresh water tank and go that way?
Maybe both and put a switch so I can use both on one pump??
What you think??
spareparts
04-03-2007, 12:39 AM
i dont think you'l get much pressure from that pump, it uses a rubber impeller, and is designed to move a volume of water at moderate pressure, usually you have to go to a diaphram pump berfore you get one that makes pressure, i may be wrong, try it out with a garden hose and sprayer before you install it
Blue_Runner
04-03-2007, 03:33 PM
1. How many GPM do I need for good water flow and preasure?
2. What size plumbing did you use 3/4?
3. Should I go with an automatic (cuts on when you squess the nozzel) with a kill swith or one which works by the switch only?
4.I have decided that a dry run pump is one thing I do want.
I didn't install it. The previous owner did. But, I would just buy a pump that is made for a washdown. West Marine carries Shurflow. It has been a good pump. Flick on the switch and it primes and can be used immediately. It should come with most or all necessary plumbing fittings and hoses.
Blue_Runner
04-04-2007, 10:23 AM
Pics of my Shurflow:
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d73/stinkery/0403071927.jpg
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d73/stinkery/0403071926.jpg
Stillrunning
04-04-2007, 11:56 AM
Do you know the GPM rating on the pump and does it have plenty of preasure. Thats what I'm concerned with as it seems the ones I have used on friends boats is that they are very weak.
Stinky_Hooker
04-04-2007, 01:39 PM
His says 9 on the box....my washdown (and most others) is right at 4. Thats why I am thinking it would be plenty powerfull enough.
Blue_Runner
04-04-2007, 01:56 PM
I was trying to get the specs in the close-up pic but I'll have to get that for you since its blurry.
It has awesome pressure. Maybe just a tick off from a water hose at the house. Works really really good.
I'll report back asap but going out of town this weekend so I don't know when.
Stillrunning
04-04-2007, 02:13 PM
I was trying to get the specs in the close-up pic but I'll have to get that for you since its blurry.
It has awesome pressure. *Maybe just a tick off from a water hose at the house. * Works really really good.
I'll report back asap but going out of town this weekend so I don't know when.
Thanks for the help and that sounds like what I'm looking for and will wait for the info.
Blue_Runner
04-04-2007, 03:22 PM
SR I would say 3.4 GPM since mine is a pro blaster. There is an extreme pro blaster which is 5.5 GPM.
I found a pro blaster like mine on eBay but its just the pump:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/SHURFLO-THE-PRO-BLASTER-WASHDOWN-PUMP_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ26449QQihZ019QQite mZ4615448980QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWD1V
Oh wait, here is a complete washdown system and its cheaper than the pump alone!:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/SHURFLO-PRO-WASHDOWN-PUMP-PUMPS-KIT-W-25-FT-HOSE_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ26449QQitemZ260101 688015QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW
Hope this helps. I think around $130 is about what price you'd pay at West Marine if my memory serves me correctly.
Blue
macojoe
04-04-2007, 05:37 PM
well I ck'ed the pump today, Not sure what it will do with a hose and sprayer, but it sure did pump the water good!!
I have to buy some fittings to get the hose to connect. then I will really know!
But it sprayed pretty hard on my hand, With the restriction of a hose and sprayer I can only think it will be better?
Stillrunning
04-04-2007, 06:35 PM
Thanks again for the help now I'm pretty confident in what kind and size of pump that I'll need. I just hate buying something and getting pumped about the pump only to have one that dosen't really pump. Now thats a let down.
macojoe
04-04-2007, 11:41 PM
Now if the weather would get better so I can uncover the boat to work on it!!
Now my wash down is going to be in the front of the boat.
I have a thur hull for the old (not there now) toilet, I am going to hook the pick up to that and have water all the time ;D
Blue_Runner
04-09-2007, 03:26 PM
Once you have a raw water washdown you'll want a fresh water washdown too. I can see it now, on the way home from fishing I'll be washing the boat before we ever get to the ramp ;D Not to mention my hands. I hate having salt all over them! (Well, not as bad as I hate working ;D)
Stinky_Hooker
04-09-2007, 05:28 PM
Right you are Blue, thats what I wanted to do in the 20...just no room in the 18. :-/
Blue_Runner
04-09-2007, 05:33 PM
If you can fit your whole body in that little door in the bow you can put a 6 or 8 gallon water tank in there 8)
Stinky_Hooker
04-09-2007, 06:16 PM
Dats for the anchor rope silly. ::)
Stillrunning
04-09-2007, 06:31 PM
Once you have a raw water washdown you'll want a fresh water washdown too. *I can see it now, on the way home from fishing I'll be washing the boat before we ever get to the ramp *;D *Not to mention my hands. *I hate having salt all over them! *(Well, not as bad as I hate working *;D)
I wash the salt off my hands by grabbing a beer out of the cooler.
macojoe
04-09-2007, 09:03 PM
my boat is still covered, but in th front were the toliet was, they had made a dorr that hides it, you lift up fold back.
After I removed the toliet I use to keep the tackle box there, out of site out of the minds of the croocks!!
Not sure how big it is there, but its like 15X15X15 cube, I figure thats might be 5 gal or better??
So I figure that I can put a water tank there, use the thgur hull for the water pick up, put a Y vaule and chose if I want salt Or freash just turning the leaver.
Like this, all would be covered under the door, I will have to take pic's when I uncover the boat to give you a better Idea
http://syncboard.com/albums/Boat-Tackle-Box/saltwater.jpg
Blue_Runner
04-10-2007, 10:43 AM
I know exactly where you are talking about. You should easlily be able to get 5 gal in there, probably alot more if you weren't concerned with the extra weight.
macojoe
04-10-2007, 10:51 AM
5gal should be just fine, all I want is some fresh to wash hands a little and my glass's!! They are always covered with crap!!
I figure that the tank and pump shold all fit in that area with nothing showing!
And the oles are in the floor already! ;)
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