Sealing the V 20 deck cap to the hull

[Warner_Foster]

Need to replace the old caulking between the cap and the hull. Don't believe 5200 is my best choice as I think there should be some flex between the cap and hull. 4200 has some flex. What do you use?

[Stinky_Hooker]

I have used 5200 in the past with good results. 5200 has enough flex to it IMO.

[msbhammer]

I'm doing the same and using 5200.

[fireattackvdf335]

Not to say you guys are wrong and I'm right, but, isn't 5200 pretty permanent stuff? Wouldn't another product do a good job of sealing and be easier to deal with in the future if you need to remove the inner liner? Anyone??

Still beaming over my citation crappie! (had to slip that in there, you understand... ;D )

[msbhammer]

Citation ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
Running from the Law. ;D

[fireattackvdf335]

haha shoulda said "trophy." *Please don't hook me up!!

To stay on topic (trophy crappie), how permanent is 5200 for the proposed application?

[macojoe]

if I ever have to remove my liner, I am
1 getting rid of the boat or
2 I am cutting it up with a chain saw!!

Use the 5200!!

[Stinky_Hooker]

5200 is stated to be "semi" permanent and IMO is tuff but not all that hard to remove, but then again Im the shizzle. 8)

[charlie_the_tuna]

the stuff boat builders use is called methacrylate.
dont know if its available to the consumer but im sure you'll be able to find out.

[msbhammer]

Whats up with Charlie and those big words. ;D

[Airslot]

Hammer, Charlie's a GOD now, cut him a little slack ;D

[Warner_Foster]

A huge THANK YOU to all the Gods. Will use 5200.

[Stillrunning]

When I took mine apart I used a good silicon which I ran a heavy beed then screwed them together. Then I ran another beed along the seam of the two. I was just checking it out this past weekend and it still looks fine after 6 years of doing the job.

[jared]

I have run across this in the past, 5200 works great... untill you need to remove it, it is next to impossible. I have pulle the outer skin off of a transom because someone used it to mount a motor, the motor was un bolted and we pick the boat off of the trailer with it.

[fireattackvdf335]

Jared: I've heard similar stories to what you are referring to - 5200 is a tough bonding adhesive.

I have not used 5200 before but will need to install a deck on a J14 in the near future - so researching what product to use. What I have read (yeah, I know - I read it on the internet...) you need a special product to break the bond of 5200 (or at least make it a much easier job.) I was just curious if another less-permanent product could be used successfully. I think it would help the poor b**tard down the road that is trying to restore a boat or maybe yourself.

[Stinky_Hooker]

Yeah they make a product to break the bond, Its called a chisel and a little elbow grease. ::)


Serioulsy guys, 5200 is not THAT hard...comon. It isnt like you just fiberglassed the sucker on there.

[macojoe]

I am with Stinky!! If you are going to have to pull the liner, you have more to worry about then the 5200 you used as calking a few years ago!!

My way if thinking is,

Fix it Right, Fix it Once, worry about it no more!!

[jared]

The best thing I have seen for attaching the deck to the hull is silicon and screws or rivets if you think you will ever need to take it apart again. If you use 5200 there will be fiberglass damage when you take it apart. The 5200 is very rubbery when cured, cutting it or breaking it is almost impossible. If you use the 5200 to attach it it will be there forever, that could be good, or bad.

[Stinky_Hooker]

Jared I love 5200 man, but comon...FOREVER??

LOL

Again peoples...5200 AINT THAT BAD!!! I replace most of the 5200 on my boat deck yearly just because I like to know it is sealed and keep it stain free.

I mean damn guys, its not TIG welded, comon! ::) ;D

[spareparts]

saw a pair of brackets pulled of the back of a an outboard go-fast, they had been 5200'd in place, it took a wrecker hooked to the brackets and some glass damage to pull tehm off.

BTW, if your using 5200, first thing you do is put a glob of it in your hair, that way its done and overwith( it will happen weither you want it to or not before your done with it

[macojoe]

When I got my bracket, it was used, and had some glass from the last boat it was on ;)

[Stinky_Hooker]

I agree, I always put some in my hair and smear it on my crotch too.

Only for bracket work on the crotch because inevitably I end up humping it outta respect for Hammer. ::)

[msbhammer]

LOL, Thanks for thinking of me STINk. :-*

[reelapeelin]

Had my cap up a coupla years ago (wish I'd had camera back then ::))...used about 75 SS screws to refasten ... ran the screws in to get everything aligned, but did not tighten ... went around entire gap w/ 4 tubes of 4200 ... let cure, then went back and tightened all screws ... then reattached rub-rail w/ another 75 screws ;D ... she TIGHT now!!... 8) ...

[fireattackvdf335]

Reel, you used 4200 instead of 5200? *You're a smart, smart man... * ;) *

I also like your idea of leaving it loose while letting the 4200 skin over and then snug it up - I bet that it's sealed very well now.

[macojoe]

I have water coming in mine, not sure from were?

Funny story, we were in big water one day and there is water running down he side of the liner, the guy with me kept staring at it, I was laughing to myself with the look on his face!
He then see me looking at him and with this concerned voice says "Is that supose to do that?"
I almost busted a gut laughing so hard!!! I said we will be just fine! But he never stoped looking at it the whole way home ;D

[reelapeelin]

Reel, you used 4200 instead of 5200? You're a smart, smart man... ;)

I also like your idea of leaving it loose while letting the 4200 skin over and then snug it up - I bet that it's sealed very well now.



The idea of lettin' the sealant cure B4 final tightening the screws actually came from Ship Shape TV...and as I's goin' around torquin' all of 'em down, it was pretty clear it was closin' up the seam REEL well ;) ...

[msbhammer]

Anybody know the size rope to use, 1/2" or 5/8" ???
Never worried about it, but the more talk I hear about it, I'm gonna start tearing. ;D

[reelapeelin]

Anybody know the size rope to use, 1/2" or 5/8" ???
Never worried about it, but the more talk I hear about it, I'm gonna start tearing. ;D



If yer talkin' about size rope in the rub-rail...1/2" ;) ...