Trailer brakes ordered

[frayed_knot]

Dat's right boys. Ordered me up some Kodiak disc brakes and a Tie Down actuator and a feedback solenoid thingy. Got em from Eastern Marine online (just like Airslot, looked up his thread on it). I went with the Tie down model 66 instead of the 70E though, saved a few bucks that way. Gonna be some pics this weekend ;D

[frayed_knot]

Dat's right boys. Ordered me up some Kodiak disc brakes and a Tie Down actuator and a feedback solenoid thingy. Got em from Eastern Marine online (just like Airslot, looked up his thread on it). I went with the Tie down model 66 instead of the 70E though, saved a few bucks that way. Gonna be some pics this weekend ;D

[macojoe]

Good deal!! Hope all goes well!!

Are you repairing or adding brakes to the trailer for the first time?

[macojoe]

Good deal!! Hope all goes well!!

Are you repairing or adding brakes to the trailer for the first time?

[Monkey Butler]

So far mine are working great and make a big difference in getting everything slowed down in a hurry. The most common complaint that I have heard is that some guys had a hard time bleeding the system. When it comes time to do yours you might want to try this.

Since you will be plumbing for a fluid return from the solenoid you can use the port on the master cylinder to apply pressure on top of the fluid. I used a Mityvac...

http://www.mityvac.com/pages/products_hvpo.asp#

and a helper to keep the pressure pumped up. A few pumps, crack a bleeder valve, few more pumps, no more air, close the bleeder valve, add more fluid to reservoir and repeat. 5 minutes per wheel.

The Mityvac didn't work for beans when used to pull a vacuum at the bleeder and the method given in the actuator instructions; "insert screwdriver in Slot "A", engage Tab "B" and make like your churning butter" wasn't any fun either.

Can't wait for the pitchurs.

Steve P.

[Monkey Butler]

So far mine are working great and make a big difference in getting everything slowed down in a hurry. The most common complaint that I have heard is that some guys had a hard time bleeding the system. When it comes time to do yours you might want to try this.

Since you will be plumbing for a fluid return from the solenoid you can use the port on the master cylinder to apply pressure on top of the fluid. I used a Mityvac...

http://www.mityvac.com/pages/products_hvpo.asp#

and a helper to keep the pressure pumped up. A few pumps, crack a bleeder valve, few more pumps, no more air, close the bleeder valve, add more fluid to reservoir and repeat. 5 minutes per wheel.

The Mityvac didn't work for beans when used to pull a vacuum at the bleeder and the method given in the actuator instructions; "insert screwdriver in Slot "A", engage Tab "B" and make like your churning butter" wasn't any fun either.

Can't wait for the pitchurs.

Steve P.

[reelapeelin]

Good selection on those components, Frayed..that's the exact combo I've had in mind...I've already got the 6600 actuator and likey a lotty ... READ THE INSTRUCTIONS that come w/it...you have to prime the DAMPER inside the unit from the master cyl...easily done, but a must ...

You can GRAVITY BLEED ... once all is installed, RAISE the tongue as high above the axle as you can ... this takes some time, but easily done if one-man install ...fill the reservoir slowly... and watch...you'll see bubbles burpin' to the top as the fluid finds its way thru the systyem...as it does, refill the reservoir each time ...

The 6600 has an access hole in the top to apply pressure to the master cyl ... check the pressure as you go and eventually it'll be as tight as it gets... ;) ...

Once bled, prime that damper and refill reservoir ... then go boatin'!! ...



;D ;D ...

[reelapeelin]

Good selection on those components, Frayed..that's the exact combo I've had in mind...I've already got the 6600 actuator and likey a lotty ... READ THE INSTRUCTIONS that come w/it...you have to prime the DAMPER inside the unit from the master cyl...easily done, but a must ...

You can GRAVITY BLEED ... once all is installed, RAISE the tongue as high above the axle as you can ... this takes some time, but easily done if one-man install ...fill the reservoir slowly... and watch...you'll see bubbles burpin' to the top as the fluid finds its way thru the systyem...as it does, refill the reservoir each time ...

The 6600 has an access hole in the top to apply pressure to the master cyl ... check the pressure as you go and eventually it'll be as tight as it gets... ;) ...

Once bled, prime that damper and refill reservoir ... then go boatin'!! ...



;D ;D ...

[frayed_knot]

I'm replacing drum brakes that don't work anymore. I'm gonna be a one man show (as usual) so I may just try that gravity feed stuff. Gives me an excuse to take a break ;)

[frayed_knot]

I'm replacing drum brakes that don't work anymore. I'm gonna be a one man show (as usual) so I may just try that gravity feed stuff. Gives me an excuse to take a break ;)

[reelapeelin]

Frayed...keep in mind the lines that go from frame to caliper generally go UP...air bubbles wont travel DOWN... so once you got it mostly done and you feel like the lines are full, crack the nipples enough to let that air escape...soon as you get steady fluid stream, close nipple ... then refill reservoir ... won't hurt to let it sit w/tongue up overnite and check to see if needs toppin' off next day ...patience w/this will get a TIGHT system... ;) ...


When you open each nipple, if ya don't wanna get fluid spilled, go to hrdwre store 1st and get short piece of vinyl tube to force-fit onto nipple and hold a cup under it to catch fluid... ;) ...

[reelapeelin]

Frayed...keep in mind the lines that go from frame to caliper generally go UP...air bubbles wont travel DOWN... so once you got it mostly done and you feel like the lines are full, crack the nipples enough to let that air escape...soon as you get steady fluid stream, close nipple ... then refill reservoir ... won't hurt to let it sit w/tongue up overnite and check to see if needs toppin' off next day ...patience w/this will get a TIGHT system... ;) ...


When you open each nipple, if ya don't wanna get fluid spilled, go to hrdwre store 1st and get short piece of vinyl tube to force-fit onto nipple and hold a cup under it to catch fluid... ;) ...

[tsubaki]

Frayed...keep in mind the lines that go from frame to caliper generally go UP...air bubbles wont travel DOWN... so once you got it mostly done and you feel like the lines are full, crack the nipples enough to let that air escape...soon as you get steady fluid stream, close nipple ... then refill reservoir ... won't hurt to let it sit w/tongue up overnite and check to see if needs toppin' off next day ...patience w/this will get a TIGHT system... ;) ...


When you open each nipple, if ya don't wanna get fluid spilled, go to hrdwre store 1st and get short piece of vinyl tube to force-fit onto nipple and hold a cup under it to catch fluid... ;) ...










and keep pumping till the bubbles stop, then you can tighten the bleed valve without air drawing back into the cylinder.

[tsubaki]

Frayed...keep in mind the lines that go from frame to caliper generally go UP...air bubbles wont travel DOWN... so once you got it mostly done and you feel like the lines are full, crack the nipples enough to let that air escape...soon as you get steady fluid stream, close nipple ... then refill reservoir ... won't hurt to let it sit w/tongue up overnite and check to see if needs toppin' off next day ...patience w/this will get a TIGHT system... ;) ...


When you open each nipple, if ya don't wanna get fluid spilled, go to hrdwre store 1st and get short piece of vinyl tube to force-fit onto nipple and hold a cup under it to catch fluid... ;) ...










and keep pumping till the bubbles stop, then you can tighten the bleed valve without air drawing back into the cylinder.

[frayed_knot]

Bleed em like I do in a car, that ought-ta work.

[frayed_knot]

Bleed em like I do in a car, that ought-ta work.

[Airslot]

Wise choice, you'll be happy with the equipment you chose. The brakes aren't that hard to bleed. If you've done brake work on any vehicle, these willb e simple. ;)

[Airslot]

Wise choice, you'll be happy with the equipment you chose. The brakes aren't that hard to bleed. If you've done brake work on any vehicle, these willb e simple. ;)

[frayed_knot]

Parts left Newark Delaware at 10:00 pm on a big brown truck, gonna be delivered Friday. I know what I'm doing Saturday ;D

[frayed_knot]

Parts left Newark Delaware at 10:00 pm on a big brown truck, gonna be delivered Friday. I know what I'm doing Saturday ;D

[frayed_knot]

There in Raleigh now. Woo-hoo!!! It's supposed to rain Saturday >:( so I might have to wait until after church on Sunday to install em.

[frayed_knot]

There in Raleigh now. Woo-hoo!!! It's supposed to rain Saturday >:( so I might have to wait until after church on Sunday to install em.

[reelapeelin]

There in Raleigh now. Woo-hoo!!! It's supposed to rain Saturday >:( so I might have to wait until after church on Sunday to install em.




Tow boat to church and work while listening to sermon...multi-task ;) ...

[reelapeelin]

There in Raleigh now. Woo-hoo!!! It's supposed to rain Saturday >:( so I might have to wait until after church on Sunday to install em.




Tow boat to church and work while listening to sermon...multi-task ;) ...

[Skools Out]

Hey Fray you can sell your brake setup now since you are moving closer to the water. *;D

[Skools Out]

Hey Fray you can sell your brake setup now since you are moving closer to the water. *;D

[frayed_knot]

Hey Fray you can sell your brake setup now since you are moving closer to the water. ;D
Ummm...NO! I might have to take her up to Emerald Isle to pick your silly butt up so you can show me how to fish ;)

Oh yeah, I got em in my grubby little hands. Brown dropped them off this afternoon. I haven't had time to take pics yet, let alone fondle the goods ;D Too busy getting the house ready to sell.

[frayed_knot]

Hey Fray you can sell your brake setup now since you are moving closer to the water. ;D
Ummm...NO! I might have to take her up to Emerald Isle to pick your silly butt up so you can show me how to fish ;)

Oh yeah, I got em in my grubby little hands. Brown dropped them off this afternoon. I haven't had time to take pics yet, let alone fondle the goods ;D Too busy getting the house ready to sell.

[Skools Out]

hey yeah that's right and i have a ramp pass for the marina behind the house

[Skools Out]

hey yeah that's right and i have a ramp pass for the marina behind the house

[frayed_knot]

Well, I installed them...sorta. It took me 6 hours to remove the old crap and install the new crap, and I still aint done yet. They fought me the whole way, The biggest problem is that I couldn't get the old brake lines disconnected from the brake cylinders with out rounding them off. So now I gotta get some new brake lines from the T to the wheels. Also, I had to install some washers between the axle flange and the mounting plate to get the calipers on. But they are on good enough to bolt the wheels back on. No pics, I was in the heat of battle, covered in grease, sweaty, and just p-o'd at the whole thing.

[frayed_knot]

Well, I installed them...sorta. It took me 6 hours to remove the old crap and install the new crap, and I still aint done yet. They fought me the whole way, The biggest problem is that I couldn't get the old brake lines disconnected from the brake cylinders with out rounding them off. So now I gotta get some new brake lines from the T to the wheels. Also, I had to install some washers between the axle flange and the mounting plate to get the calipers on. But they are on good enough to bolt the wheels back on. No pics, I was in the heat of battle, covered in grease, sweaty, and just p-o'd at the whole thing.

[macojoe]

Good going!! You will get there! Now take a shower and grab a beer and relax!! Tomorrow is another day!

[macojoe]

Good going!! You will get there! Now take a shower and grab a beer and relax!! Tomorrow is another day!

[frayed_knot]

OK, back in the saddle. I had to order some more parts, I needed lines from the t-block to each wheel cylinder. The ones that were on there originaly were flexible the tubing type. That's fine with me being as I needed flex for the disc brakes anywho. The problem is there isn't anyplace local that I could get the parts I needed. I hit up eastern marine again and bought the second axle line kit just for the 2 lines I need. I'll have some extra parts left over, but that's OK with me as long as I get it done. ;) They are due to be delivered on Monday. I'll work it in somewhere, I'm still working on getting the house ready to be sold. Anybody wanna help me paint?

[frayed_knot]

OK, back in the saddle. I had to order some more parts, I needed lines from the t-block to each wheel cylinder. The ones that were on there originaly were flexible the tubing type. That's fine with me being as I needed flex for the disc brakes anywho. The problem is there isn't anyplace local that I could get the parts I needed. I hit up eastern marine again and bought the second axle line kit just for the 2 lines I need. I'll have some extra parts left over, but that's OK with me as long as I get it done. ;) They are due to be delivered on Monday. I'll work it in somewhere, I'm still working on getting the house ready to be sold. Anybody wanna help me paint?

[reelapeelin]

Frayed...thanks on the offer to paint, but we got paint in progress here ;) ...

Good goin' on the brakes...it'll be worth it when finished 8) ...

[reelapeelin]

Frayed...thanks on the offer to paint, but we got paint in progress here ;) ...

Good goin' on the brakes...it'll be worth it when finished 8) ...

[frayed_knot]

Got the rest of my parts today, and it still fought me tooth and nail, but it's done and seems to be working nicely.

Putting the hoses on was a snap. The first problem came when it was time to install the actuator. You have to prime the dampner, but there isn't any kind of instruction on how to do it, so I filled up the resevoir and tried pushing against it on the floor. It didn't move much and the pressure forced some fluid around the plastic plug, making a mess. I tightened the plug and decided to mount it to the trailer tongue and use the truck to do the priming. Made more mess, but that sucker is primed, I promise. ;) Now I had to mount the bypass solenoid, so off the tongue the actuator came (thank God for pneumatic tools). I don't know where Tie Down got their engineers, but if I see one on the street, I'm gonna pop him one. Why, you ask? The pipe nipple that came on the solenoid is too short to spin it onto the resevoir without hitting the sides of the actuators' case. The picture they have on their website shows it mounted to my same actuator, must have been staged because there is now way on God's green earth that sum biscuit was going on. Off to Lowes to get an inch and a half long nipple (that's funny right there ;D). Got 'er mounted up and time to bleed me some brakes. Easy right? Nope. I had brake fluid all over the dadburned driveway. The line I hooked to the bleed screw kept coming off. There just wasn't enough meat on the screw to hold it and a wrench at the same time. I improvised. My neighbors must think for sure I'm going to hell because by this time I'm cussing a blue streak and throwing things. Anywho, the Admiral was doing the pumping (again, that's funny right there), bless her heart, she just let me go off the deep end. When I recovered we got 'er done, the brakes were bled. Whew, all thats left is to hook up the wiring. I bought a 7 pole RV plug to use being as that's what is on the truck. Well I wired it using the color code on the back of the connector, each slot had a color written next to it. Guess what? It was wrong! >:( I backed the truck up to the work area and used the diagram that's written on the cover of the jack. Again, if'n I see one of those engineer dudes, POW! Using a flashlight (cuz by now it's friggin dark), I wired it to the trucks' code. It worked like a champ. Hooked her up and pulled her around the block, slamming on the brakes the whole way, I had a good time with that. Everything works and there is no more bump from the trailer when I hit the brakes. Thank God that project is over with.

[frayed_knot]

Got the rest of my parts today, and it still fought me tooth and nail, but it's done and seems to be working nicely.

Putting the hoses on was a snap. The first problem came when it was time to install the actuator. You have to prime the dampner, but there isn't any kind of instruction on how to do it, so I filled up the resevoir and tried pushing against it on the floor. It didn't move much and the pressure forced some fluid around the plastic plug, making a mess. I tightened the plug and decided to mount it to the trailer tongue and use the truck to do the priming. Made more mess, but that sucker is primed, I promise. ;) Now I had to mount the bypass solenoid, so off the tongue the actuator came (thank God for pneumatic tools). I don't know where Tie Down got their engineers, but if I see one on the street, I'm gonna pop him one. Why, you ask? The pipe nipple that came on the solenoid is too short to spin it onto the resevoir without hitting the sides of the actuators' case. The picture they have on their website shows it mounted to my same actuator, must have been staged because there is now way on God's green earth that sum biscuit was going on. Off to Lowes to get an inch and a half long nipple (that's funny right there ;D). Got 'er mounted up and time to bleed me some brakes. Easy right? Nope. I had brake fluid all over the dadburned driveway. The line I hooked to the bleed screw kept coming off. There just wasn't enough meat on the screw to hold it and a wrench at the same time. I improvised. My neighbors must think for sure I'm going to hell because by this time I'm cussing a blue streak and throwing things. Anywho, the Admiral was doing the pumping (again, that's funny right there), bless her heart, she just let me go off the deep end. When I recovered we got 'er done, the brakes were bled. Whew, all thats left is to hook up the wiring. I bought a 7 pole RV plug to use being as that's what is on the truck. Well I wired it using the color code on the back of the connector, each slot had a color written next to it. Guess what? It was wrong! >:( I backed the truck up to the work area and used the diagram that's written on the cover of the jack. Again, if'n I see one of those engineer dudes, POW! Using a flashlight (cuz by now it's friggin dark), I wired it to the trucks' code. It worked like a champ. Hooked her up and pulled her around the block, slamming on the brakes the whole way, I had a good time with that. Everything works and there is no more bump from the trailer when I hit the brakes. Thank God that project is over with.