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macojoe
03-10-2004, 03:12 PM
Does anyone no about them?? I was looking at one today and they seem very nice. It has a 3 X 5 frame and surge brakes, all rollers 30, and tandam axle. for $2300

Nothing like that ez loader I was looking at!! that had a small frame, no brakes, tandam, and 24 rollers and was $2500

Seakindly
03-10-2004, 04:25 PM
MJ, REVIEW MY POSTS ABOUT MY TRAILER >:(... ;)

macojoe
03-10-2004, 05:08 PM
I know the spec of the trailer i need. But what about the Five star co. ??

Seakindly
03-12-2004, 03:47 PM
MJ,

I 'M IN A HURRY NOW.

SEEARCH THIS SITE FOR "5STARR" AND READ WHAT COMES UP.

TALK WITH ME LATER, BUT BEFORE YOU BUY.

GOTTA GO.

macojoe
03-12-2004, 08:51 PM
I can't seem to find it?? But when you have time let me no! Thanks

Crusher
03-12-2004, 10:59 PM
Macojoe, I have two different catalogs one is Load Rite Boat trailers www.loadrite.com. the other is 5 Starr Trailers www.5starrtrailers.com. They both have the same address 265 lincoln Highway Farless hills Pa. 19030, which is here in eastern Pa. just outside Phila. I E mailed Kodiak brake co to see what trailers co. built with there products. I beleive the said East coast trailers. I,ve read to many problems with all the different metals that tie down brake co uses, even with their new improved units. Most trailer co. build with their units. I want my next trailer to be tandem, torsion axles, Kodiak Disc, TPR ribbed rollers, led lights and upgraded hardware kit. Crusher

macojoe
03-12-2004, 11:33 PM
And have you found one that has all that yet Crusher??

I found out that load rite and 5 star is the same co.

This is going to be my first new boat trailer and the first trailer with breaks.

So I would like to do it right the first time!!

So I am depending on all you guys to get me set up!!

And you may all send donations to:

Macojoe
PO Box $$$$
Cape Cod Ma. 02134

All domination acccepted!! ;D

jay
03-12-2004, 11:59 PM
ive seen them both an the load rite to me is a bit heaver duty an so is the price. ask sea kindly he did the math an all the shopping last summer .for trailers.

chumbucket
03-13-2004, 12:48 AM
The brakes that came on my former E-Z Loader tandem were Tie Downs and the SUCKED OUT LOUD!!!!!!!!! >:(
I flushed them after every trip and one still locked up on me. Screwed up a torsion spindle and I lost a wheel. Luckily on a back road and not on the highway. Also, on the lucky side; it was a tandem axle so it didn't hit the pavement. It was only a mile from home, so I made it okay. It was still under warranty to so that was also a lucky brake (certainly no pun intended :))
Crusher, those are good specs to go with. I have the TPR ribbed rollers on my trailer now. They're nice. And the next time my lights go, I'd like to put the LED's on as well. ;)

macojoe
03-13-2004, 11:11 PM
Well thanks for telling us about the 700 day tip!! Seakindly!! I was able to find your post!!
So my guess is you like your trailer so far??
The one they were showing me was something 3700 and I thought that was a 3700# which I was thinking to light. What is the model that you have??
The Model that i looked at was $2300

Crusher
03-14-2004, 12:59 PM
Macojoe-Chumbucket, I have a slip In N.J. so I only trailer back and forth two or three trips a year. Just did a rebuild on my single axle Loadrite, brake lines, serge master cyl., tires, inspected brakes. Talked to a small boat dealer Sat., he claims the 5-Starr Trailer is a cheaper (lower quality) version in the loadrite line of trailers. A lot of people are starting to say good things about alumn. trailers being built by other Mfgs., even for salt water use. If I give up my slip and just become a trailer person. I would first recall Kodiak Brake co. see who is building with their products and try building a trailer with the specks I noted in above post. 2nd option because of location would be to spec. trailer from Loasdrite. Order with disc brakes and before or when they crap out change to the Kodaik calipers and rotors, would think brake lines would be veryclose to hooking up. Kodiak brakes would be type that you can seperate the rotor from hub. Also have heard Tie Down change redesigned metal and seals in their products, Still most people feel they are crap. Watch what tires you get do a search on other boardes a lot of tire failure ou there . I went to Goodyear Marthon Radials Good Luck! Crusher

macojoe
03-14-2004, 01:19 PM
Ok looking for Kodiak, and Marathon tires.

Who would have thought that getting a trailer was going to be so much work!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :o

Seakindly
03-14-2004, 05:48 PM
MJ, so you finally found my postS. :)
Now, all you have to do is read them. ;)

We have more to discuss than what I have already written, but you must first get up to speed with this topic so that we can both get on the same page.

macojoe
03-14-2004, 11:51 PM
well I guess I found all your stuff?? Told of all the spec rollers disk brakes not SS but steel as the SS looked thin and softer the steel 38 rollers or so 5700# you paid $2200
I have not heard anything bad as of yet?? So what you want to tell me now??

Seakindly
03-15-2004, 05:49 PM
puter freezin up >:(

MJ, 5STARR AND LOADRITE HAVE SAME COMPONENTS.

EXCEPT THE ROLLER BRACKET ASSEMBLIES. LR IS MORE ADJUSTABLE. 5STARR CAN'T ADJUST THE DISTANCE BETWWEEN EACH ROLLER IN EACH PAIR 13 INCHES SPACE BETWEEN EACH 3 INCH ROLLER. I STILL HAVE TO GET IT RIGHT. 13 INCH SPACE BAD FOR V20 CAUSE ROLLER WANTS TO ALWAYS SIT ON A STEP. THAT IS WHY MY BOAT IS SITTIN WACKED ON TRAILER IN MY GALLERY PICS. IF I CAN'T GET IT STRAIGHT I MAY NEED TO BUY DIFFERENT ROLLER BRACKETS. YOU SHOULD TAKE PICS OF BOTH SO YOU CAN COMPARE.

Seakindly
03-15-2004, 06:31 PM
crusher did some good research (as usual) on the brakes and tires. 5starr only came with tie down and regular tires. i will be looking into replacing with kodiak and radials when the time comes. although not goodyears because i have had bad experience with goodyear including a highway blow out with my old van (1st 7000 miles - bought new).

HEY CRUSHER, DO YOU KNOW WHAT GRADE ALUM ALLOY THEY ARE USING? JUST CURIOUS.

macojoe
03-15-2004, 07:22 PM
Is this your only problem with the trailer?? I might go with a loadright if that is the case??

I have been hearing some good things as far as the Venture trailers also?

The Karavan trailers have a small amout of rollers and they only come with drum brakes. So they are out!!

So I am looking at so far: Load rite, 5 starr, Venture.

I have heard good things about Loadmaster but I can't afford the cash that they are costing!!

And some one thur a Roadmaster Alum. it to the mix now for me to check out.

I am so confussed ???

Crusher
03-15-2004, 10:19 PM
Seakindly, Just reading all the boards about trailers. A lot of good conments about alum I beam trailers. I don't know what alloy they are using. My consern would be corrision? Torsion axles, Radial tires, Disc brakes, seem to be the most popular items in that order. Torsions axles for their ride, no leaf failure, if you lose a bearing or hub you take a big nut of spindle to replace it, and you on your way. Tires everybody reports failure with all makes of tires its real crap shoot. I think all the different towing conditions trailers are subject to and the fact that we all don't want to admit how much our rigs weigh (EXTRA BEER). Spec tires for the total weight of your rig keep air pressure correct. I'm with Macjoe confussed and hoping this will all be sorted out by the time I need to purchase. Crusher

Crusher
03-15-2004, 11:03 PM
Just saw this on I- Boats www.greatlakestrailers.com alumn I beam trailer mfg. Crusher

bigshrimpin
03-16-2004, 02:28 AM
MJ - When I was looking around I really liked the galvanized Continential Trailers.


But . . . If you're looking for inexpensive trailers.

nextrail
http://www.nextrailofamerica.com/

TA Mahoney's in Tampa, FL gave me a quote of $1290 for a brand new galvanized tandem axel trailer (no brakes). Not sure if they can ship'em north.
http://www.fishing-boating.com/mahoney/

I also heard that Northeast Marine Industries, Inc. in oxford, ma sometimes has good deals on trailers.

chumbucket
03-16-2004, 10:25 AM
MJ, IMO, I think you should just go with the best quality you can afford right now. Look for one that has a good solid frame and roller setup. As far as some of the upgraded components go, replace them with the better stuff later on when the finances are a little better.

Seakindly
03-16-2004, 05:12 PM
MJ, THAT IS THE ONLY DIFF BETWEEN THE LOADRITE AND THE 5STARR AND IT MAY NOT EVEN BE A PROBLEM AS I HAVEN'T FINISHED TRYING TO ADJUST THE ROLLERS. THE FRAME AND EVERYTHING ELSE IS THE SAME. THE PRICE WAS 500 BUCKS LESS.

I HAVE HEARD NOTHING BUT BAD THINGS ABOUT VENTURE BUT CAN'T REMEMBER ANY OF THEM AS I ELIMINATED THEM REAL FAST.

MJ, I WAS IN A HURRY SO I BOUGHT NEW. I HAD TO GET MY V21 OUT OF THE SELLERS BACK YARD FAST. YOU, ON THE OTHER HAND, HAVE THE LUXURY OF SHOPPING AROUND FOR A GOOD DEAL ON A QUALITY USED TRAILER. MAY/JUNE ARE PROBABLY THE BEST TIME TO BUY A USED TRAILER AND SEPT/OCT THE WORST. YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO FIND A GOOD USED ONE, AND AS CB SUGGESTED, UPGRADE THE COMPONENTS OVER TIME. IN THE MEANTIME, CONTINUE YOUR RESEARCH.

jay
03-16-2004, 07:11 PM
now that sound like some very good advise

macojoe
03-16-2004, 07:27 PM
O brother!! What the heck and I am going to do!! Ok I no I don't want Bunks so that takes a few out from the get go!!
BS I checked the first link you sent and they only have bunk, but nice prices!! the 2nd link I can't seem to get to??

Crusher I went to the site you posted and it is also only bunk trailers. But thanks anyway !!

Seakindy Thanks for all your info!!

CB, Lets meet up soon and go trailer shopping!!

All you guys have good points and good advise!! And are right that I have pleanty of time to get a trailer!! I could uase mine this whole season as lond as i fix one small problem, heck maybe 2 or 3 seasons??
But i am getting sick of having to build parts and stuff for it as calkins is no longer with us!! And it is a 1980 trailer and the frame is starting to rust as the gal. is falling off.
I am not rich by no means!! heck haven't had a Job in almost 9 months!! But the Motor i am selling with in the next month or so is going to by my trailer! So i wil have all of $2000 to $2300 which I am hopping will get me something desent??
Used is not out of the question as long as it is in nice shape!! I don't need junk!!

Hey BS you been going to CA. By way of FL. Any chance of comming to MA. buy way of FL. ?? ;D They have some nice trailer cheap!! You could tow that here with a GO Cart!

Thanks ALL!! And if you find something New, Used, Free in good shape Please Please Please post for me !!

Thanks

chumbucket
03-17-2004, 11:10 AM
MJ, anytime you want Bud. I'm free Wed thru Sat now with the new job. ;)

bluedog
03-17-2004, 09:00 PM
MJ, new want ad has a guy in mMashpee selling a trailer he says rated at 5000 for 1000$. Sorry I left the copy at work I'll send the info later but it's in the current issue. Didn't say if it was dual axel but a grand might be 600$ with some luck. 8)

macojoe
03-17-2004, 10:09 PM
Thanks for the info!!! But shame on you for leaving it at work!! ;)

macojoe
03-17-2004, 10:38 PM
Just called the guy. He got the trailer from the Mass martime acution about 2 years ago and parked were it sits right now. He has never used it, doesn't no what kind it is, but says it was for a 20 foot boat. Not sure on the weight that it will hold. But it is a single axle.

I am going to take a ride tomorrow afternoon to go look at it. i will keep you posted
Thanks

macojoe
03-18-2004, 06:51 PM
Went and looked at the $1000 trailer today! >:(
I called the guy and asked some ?? before I went all the way there.
It is a nice trailer, needs new Boat tires and rims but besides that it looked ok for a 2500# trailer. Not to sure as there is nothing on the trailer to iD it. But looked like a 18 foot boat 25oo# or so. And a far cry from $1000!! You can buy that new for $1500

The search goes on!!

bluedog
03-18-2004, 09:11 PM
Leave no stone unturned, I'll keep my bloodshot eye's open for ya. :o

bigshrimpin
03-18-2004, 10:28 PM
MJ - I wish I could help you out, but I'm already out in California. The weather has been 70 to 80 degree's and sunny everyday, but the gas prices are friggin crazy $2.09 for 87 . . .

macojoe
03-18-2004, 10:30 PM
Wow!! I will be there in 3 weeks!! I hope the weather holds up!!
Thanks!! But you have helped, You started the board!!With out this i would not be able to ask what I have been asking!!
So Thanks again

chumbucket
03-19-2004, 12:36 AM
Hey Bud. Did ya look at that used trailer today? Promising prospect?

macojoe
03-19-2004, 01:07 AM
CB, Can you read??

I went today and I posted also!! You getting old bud!!

Yea guy new nothing when i called and new less when he put the add in the paper!! 2500# trailer at best and goo for maye up to a 18 footer.

So the search goes on!!

chumbucket
03-19-2004, 02:01 AM
Sorry Bud. Yes, I am getting old. ;D But lately when I open a thread on this site, it doesn't always show all the postings. Sometimes I catch it and if I go back and reopen the thread, it'll show them all. I guess that's what happened here ???

Seakindly
03-19-2004, 06:32 PM
CB, that has been happening to me also. I thought it was just because my puter has been acting up lately.
If I hit refresh, I usually get the whole thread.

macojoe
03-19-2004, 08:45 PM
Just old age guys!! Admitt it NOW!! *;D

O no its the evil 666 post!!

macojoe
03-20-2004, 03:05 PM
Well CB I called Coastline and talked to a guy named Rick and we had a chat and in the end I am talking $2395 for roller and $2295 for bunk.

He said spend the Xtra $100 and get the rollers. Bunk good for storage, more hull support, and roller good for everyday use, getting in and out water.

:-[ :'( :-/ ???

Seakindly
03-20-2004, 03:31 PM
What do you get for 2395?

chumbucket
03-20-2004, 07:07 PM
Well their prices have gone up from when I talked to them a year and a half ago.
If it's only $100 more for rollers, I guess that's the way to go. I would have thought the difference would be more than that. It used to be.
Decisions, decisions. ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???

bigshrimpin
03-20-2004, 09:32 PM
MJ . . . see if they deliver.

TA Mahoney's Number
813-241-6500

I agree with CB . . . unless the frame of your trailer is rotting though spend the $250 and fix it up. Save the rest of the $$ and buy a new one when you catch 2000 pounds of jumbo fluke.

macojoe
03-20-2004, 09:53 PM
Frame is rotting!! I bet I could get 2 more seasons easy out of it? But I want a new one NOW!!
I will give them a call!! Thanks

macojoe
03-20-2004, 09:56 PM
You get a trailer with rollers, disk brakes, tandam, 14" tires, 4200#, lights, flat wire connection.

All the usually stuff. and they are going up fast!! I called one place last week and it was $2300 and this week say $2800.

Seakindly
03-21-2004, 03:38 PM
Torsion suspension??

I got all that and 5400 GVWR, in sept. for $2200.

chumbucket
03-21-2004, 05:03 PM
MJ, sounds like it's time for us to make a road trip when ya get back from your trip. We can go terrorize Seakindly. ;D :o

macojoe
03-21-2004, 06:25 PM
were whats the place name?? I will call tomorrow

Seakindly
03-22-2004, 04:55 PM
Riverhead Trailer... 631-727-6230 ... ask for the hot babe... tell her Seakindly sent ya ;)

macojoe
03-22-2004, 07:57 PM
Thanks all!! I bought a 4200# capacity, 1200#trailer weight, total 5400# all roller, tandam, torsion suspension Loadrite today. I got for $2100

Just in time also!! He said they will be going up on Wed about another $400 to $500 because of the steel shortage??

Thanks all!!

Seakindly
03-22-2004, 08:20 PM
WOW!!

You got a great deal,MJ. That's the same trailer as mine, but with the better roller brackets. :P

macojoe
03-22-2004, 08:36 PM
Thanks!! I am glad it is over!! This was a pain!!

chumbucket
03-23-2004, 05:04 PM
Damn! I was looking forward to a road trip. ;D
Glad you finally found what you wanted Bud. ;D

Seakindly
03-24-2004, 04:34 PM
CB, YOU AND MJ are welcome to come down here and wax my boat anytime. ;D

wax on... wax off... ;)

chumbucket
03-24-2004, 06:09 PM
MJ spends the better part of the day waxing something. Unfortunately, it's not his boat he's waxing. :o ::)

macojoe
03-25-2004, 01:20 AM
Yea go a head and pick on me!! Just because I had to work for the first time in 9 months doen't mean I don't have feelings!! :'( :'(

chumbucket
03-25-2004, 04:25 AM
The guy finally goes to work after 9 months of loafing and he's already crying the working man's blues :'( ;D
Oh woe is Joe. :-*

Hey Bud. Go to my gallery pics. I modified one of the pics to show you the ladder setup my buddy made for getting in and out of his boat when at the launch ramp like we were talking about the other day. Not the best picture, but you'll get the idea. Of course his problem now is that he added that bow roller for the anchor. I'll bet he barks up his shins pretty good on that thing. I used it a couple of times and even with the bow rail left unmodified, it was very easy to get on board. I liked your idea too though. I'm sure you'll come up with something.

Get those dimensions for me on the radar arch. Oh, BTW, that reminds me. Would you be wanting any antenna mounts. What I mean is basically a couple of flat plates welded between the two tubes for mounting purposes (don't get any funny ideas. I mean mounting antennas). I already told him to figure in a couple.

macojoe
03-25-2004, 04:27 PM
I forgot what my Idea was?? :-/ But that is easy to make. I bet that roller is a Bit$h when he is trying to get out!!
I can't see his bow rail, does it have a split in it or does he just climb over it??

Yea and I hate work!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Two days now and I must have searved about 20 coustmers!! Stand there all day doing nothing! My back hurst, legs hurt I am not use to this you no!

Mac_Attack
03-25-2004, 11:02 PM
CB would you happen to have a picture of the anchor roller and deck. I'm curious on how the anchor is held tight in the roller and how he changed his running lights. I'm looking for anoyjrt project to fill my spare time. It would be nice to get the anchor out of the way. ;D thanks Bill Mc

chumbucket
03-26-2004, 01:06 AM
MJ. the bow was left intact and he climbs over it.

Mac, I'd have to ask him if he has any other photos of the roller setup. I can tell you that he removed the dual red/green light and installed separate ones on either side of the boat. The bow roller is through bolted with an aluminum plate backing it up underneath in the rope locker. He rigged something up from a set of bow chocks and a hole in the shank of the Danforth anchor so that when it's pulled up tight in the roller, you push a pin through the hole in the shank. the anchor rode and chain gets dropped down one of those deck pipes with the hinged lid and a PVC tube below to guide the rode and chain into the locker. I doubt that he has any photos of this but I'll ask.

Seakindly
03-26-2004, 04:37 PM
Hey Mac, have you seen the pics of my anchor roller/platform setup in my gallery. There is also a discussion of this project in the modifications forum.
The anchor is held tight by a windline anchor tensioner (see west marine or boaters world catalog).

If you have any questions, please ask them in the other thread. I will be happy to answer them. :)

Drag_Line
04-04-2004, 05:24 PM
You might want to try Nextrail trailers-800-570-6070. I got a alum.tandem trailer w/ stainless components delivered from the factory for my v-20 for $1850. I think that's a pretty decent deal. I did not opt for the brakes b/c I live less than .25 miles from my drop in site.

macojoe
04-04-2004, 06:38 PM
Thanks drag_line but i have already bought a New Load-rite.

Welcome to the sute~!