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hey mac_attack,
  have you had a chance to try out your boat? if not let me know how she does and what prop your using.
i'm aleast a month or so from floating... i have a 17 pitch, but have been told i would need a 19 or 21 pitch.
                 ken
Ps: may the force be
with us  :)
Mac_Attack
03-18-2004, 09:01 PM
The boat came with two props. *They are both the same I believe they are 13.5 X 17. *I'll ckeck and see. *I haven't had it out yet. *Still snowing and ice in the canals. *I'll let you know. " May the Force be with us!" ;D ;D
Bill Mc
mr mac your force engine looks like a good runner from the pictures. a few years back i bought a fixerupper a 1990 arriva,water ski type hull with the same 150 hp engine.i had no problems .had plenty of power.some parts were already discontinued back in1998 .goodluck an may the force be with you.
chumbucket
03-19-2004, 02:04 AM
Usually a 17 or 19" pitch is about right with these boats. ;)
Mac_Attack
03-19-2004, 12:35 PM
Ken how long have you had your V20 with the Force? Bill Mc ;D
i have had since late oct. 03, i traded a harley tool box for boat, motor, duel axle trailer.....i just got started on the rebuild of the boat a couple weeks ago. moving right along. the top deck is off, the floor is cut out, transom is removed. the 2 centers stringers have to be replaced.......hopefully in 3 or 4 weeks it will be ready...
              ken
Mac_Attack
03-20-2004, 02:10 PM
The Harley Tool Box must have been GOLD plated. Nice trade. Raining here today, I can't wait til the weather breaks for the good. We'll be talking, comparing notes.
Seakindly
03-20-2004, 03:35 PM
Ken, I hope you have lots of pics of the rebuild. :)
seakindly,
  i've been taking all kinds of pictures. all i have to do is figure how to get them on my computer ???
Seakindly
03-21-2004, 03:42 PM
MJ HELPED ME. :)
macojoe
03-21-2004, 06:27 PM
Ken did BS set up with a album yet??
If not and you have a place that lets you link from you can do that. I have Comcast Cable and they let me set up a web page and i can link to here easy.
If not send BS a pm to set you up and you will be off and running
Mac_Attack
03-21-2004, 06:52 PM
Hi Ken, If your camera is digital it's a simple download to your computer. *If not there are two ways either scan the prints to your computer. *No scanner, then have your photos put on a CD at your photo developer and download them from the CD.   
MJ how do you get a pidture into your post? *Thanks Bill Mc
macojoe
03-21-2004, 07:00 PM
You have to be able to link a pic from another site in order to get here in the post.
If you have a site that allows this all you have to do is go to that site and right click the pic you want and hit property, Then highlight it address (http://) and right click and hit copy.
Then you can come here and hit the button above 2nd row 4th in has a little pic on it.
You will get this   what you want to do is paste the pic you copied from you other sit in between like this http://mymomspicture.ttt  
no spaces!! and there you have it.
If you don't have a linkable site your out of luck 
Hope that helps!!
macojoe
03-21-2004, 07:05 PM
[ img ]  ADRESS TO PIC    [ /img ]
Mac_Attack
05-03-2004, 07:16 PM
Force 150 update! *Started the motor on muffs two weekends ago had no water coming out the back in a steady stream or any other form. *Shut her down, decided to change impeller. *Pulled lower unit off, surprise, it had a cracked housing, water pump housing. *Replaced housing, impeller and all parts assoc with water pump. *Reinstalled and we have water. *Not like on my Suzuki, a steady stream, put it spits nicely out of the idle relief holes. *Boat is ready for splash down. *Just need some favorable weather. *Ken how is your boat coming along? *Bill Mc ;D
it's going, not as fast as i would like it......i'm hopeing for the the end of may. i sent you a im a week or so ago.
               ken
may the force be with us
Mac_Attack
05-03-2004, 09:48 PM
Sorry Ken I'll have to start looking up at the top of the page.
Mac_Attack
05-17-2004, 10:53 PM
Sunday we took the boat out for her maden voyage with us. How would CB say it it rides sweetttttttt. At wide open throttle 5200 the fish finder's speedo said 35mph and was still climbing when I slow her down. We were on a small inland lake. Three adults and 1/3 of a tank of gas. The Force was with us til the second pass accross the lake. That is when the prop and skeg encountered a submerged object. Bent one blade on the prop and broke the skeg off. Taking it to a marine shop tomarrow for repairs.  Bill Mc 
 The V20 rides so nice I can not wait to take her out in Erie.
macojoe
05-18-2004, 03:24 PM
THAT SUCKS!!!
But I no how you feel!! I was on a lake with my first biggeer boat (17 footer) and was trying to tune the hi speed timming and when flyng the same happened to me!!!
But I did alot more dammage!! I riped the prop shaft right out of the bottom!! Hads to bebuild the who lower unit!!
Well glad that most went well!! Look at it this way, Liie a new car, You have your first stratch and now can get to fishing with no worrys!!
Mac_Attack
05-18-2004, 04:17 PM
Thanks MJ. The boat really rides nice. I'm also pleased with the Forces performance up until the mishap. Took the lower unit off and into my local Mercury dealer. He'll have the skeg repaired and new prop on before Memorial Day weekend. My personal fishing opener. Total cost of repair 350 dollars. Bill Mc ;D
chumbucket
05-18-2004, 05:58 PM
schweeeeet! Sucks about hitting something though. Just make sure they check out the gears and prop shaft before getting it back. You don't want to be pulling the lower unit again. A slightly bent prop shaft can cause premature seal wear and you'll end up with water in your lower unit, or worse. ;)
Seakindly
05-18-2004, 08:18 PM
MAC -- WAS YOUR PROP ALUM OR SS?
Mac_Attack
05-18-2004, 09:23 PM
Aluminium, 13.5 x17, prop could not be repaired hub was spun. *New replacement $150. * Someone at work asked me why I didn't get a SS replacement. *I had no real answer other than thats what it had on it. *Would there be any benefit from a SS prop in fresh water? * *Bill Mc *
http://img42.photobucket.com/albums/v130/Machockey/Broken_Skeg.jpg
macojoe
05-19-2004, 12:51 AM
NO!! SS can and will snap the lower unit in a real good hit!! You were lucky if that prop is SS!!
In fresh water I would never use any more then Alumin!
Seakindly
05-19-2004, 06:48 PM
Y eah Mac ... you were lucky it was alum. A stainless prop would have transferred more of the force of the impact to your gears/prop shaft. Better to sacrifice the relatively cheap alum prop.
Stainless is better suited for large waters where getting home is your number one priority. Kind of hard to change a damaged prop in ocean seas. 
For shallow lakes and bays, where you can usually find a place to change a damaged prop, you are better off with 2 alums on board vs. a SS PROP.
* This is Seakindly's opinion, and does not necessarily reflect the views of www.wellcraftv20.com ::)
Seakindly
05-19-2004, 06:55 PM
Your pic just popped up ... I love my puter... not.
I don't think I would bother to have that skeg repaired for that motor. Probably would have just ground off the back edge.
Can't you have that prop rehubbed? ??? Then smooth out with a hammer. Use it for a spare.
Mac_Attack
05-19-2004, 11:18 PM
Hows that logo song go "State Farm is There". I made a claim on Monday before I knew what the exact cost would be. All I could picture was that I needed a rebuilt lower unit $1500.00. When the guy said $195 skeg repair $150 new alu prop what a relief. Stayed with the insurance claim just in case something else is wrong. $100 deductible not bad. I've had a boat 15 years never made a claim this time I did. Thanks for the info on SS props. Bill Mc ;D
chumbucket
05-20-2004, 12:34 AM
Stainless props are good for performance. Believe it or not, aluminum props will flex slightly changing the pitch. It's really not something that the majority of us would notice though. It is, however noticable with composition props and I would recommend not going that way. Aluminum is probably the most economical and best performance for the money. There are new props out now that the blades and hub are separate and interchangable should you require a pitch change or replacing damaged blades.
You also could have attached a Skeguard stainless replacement on there for about $100.
I don't know about the insurance companies where you live, but here they will warrant a claim, then drop your policy afterwards (many of them anyways). So, in most cases, you're better off not filing a claim.
Mac_Attack
05-20-2004, 06:29 AM
We'll see. Bill Mc
macojoe
05-20-2004, 12:40 PM
I have a Hustler prop on my boat. It is like CB says the prop and hub are seprate. About $130 but when you ever want to or have to the replacement prop cost is $60!! And is just fine, I have no difference the a regular prop, that I notice.
Mac_Attack
05-28-2004, 11:58 PM
I got the lower unit back today, goes on the boat tomorrow and into the water. Michigan Marine Gear was great, before they reassembled it I got to see the gears and all the other components. The prop shaft was bent. They put it in v blocks with a dial indicater .030 out I could see the wobble. Final cost out the door $1200. Thank you insurance. Hopefully I'll have pictures of the unit and some fishing shots. The weather here in Michigan stinks. You all have a great Memorial Day Weekend! Say a prayer for all our soldiers past and present. Bill Mc ;D
macojoe
05-29-2004, 03:51 AM
Glad to hear you got the leg all set!! I haven't even got the boat in the water yet!! And you are already repairing yours.
Well I would like to hit the water this weekend as the weather is going to be pretty nice here Sun, and Mon I guess. But I learned to stay away for the ramps on this weekend years ago! To many nuts out there.
I have set up a day (wed) to go out with some other friends that will be going out for the first time this week also. But noe they say the rain will be here agan by then again??
O well go luck getting it all back toghter!!
Seakindly
05-30-2004, 12:56 AM
Hey Mac, was that before or after they whacked it with the sledge?? ;D
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