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labii
10-04-2005, 12:17 PM
I went to their web site yesterday and it list only the 200 and 300 hp as their HPDI offerings . Does anyone know if or why the dropped the 150,175,250 ?

reelapeelin
10-04-2005, 06:36 PM
Labii, don't know for sure, but maybe they feel the market is leaning that heavily in favor of 4-stroke technology and movin' away from2-stroke...I happen to disagree, but I think the reason they're keepin' the 300s is it's the ONLY power capable of pushin' the big ole Grady Whites to a decent cruising speed...that 33' Express and heard about one even bigger gotta have the OBs so they can sell the boats... ;)...

Good to hear from ya...haven't seen ya around these parts lately... :)...

macojoe
10-04-2005, 08:40 PM
I for one am not sold on 4 strokes and as long as i can get a good new or used 2 stroke I will.
This means that I will be set for my life time!!

willy
10-04-2005, 11:49 PM
Hey MJ I agree with you to a point, I think that once they can figure out how to do those 4 strokers a lot lighter than they are now I will stay with the dueces. But and its a big but, I was out on a friends boat last month, up on plane with a suzuki four stroke, five feet from the engine and talking in a normal tone and listening to Jimmy Buffet on a cd. You just don't realize how much that noise difference affects your enjoyment of the water and your surrondings until you don't have that chain saw in your ear anymore. More expensive yeah more complicated yeah but if I have the money to repower that v20 I'm getting in a week it will be with a four stroker and I won't look back ;)

macojoe
10-05-2005, 12:25 AM
I agree, But, When I had the I/O I was yelling all the time to talk!! But after I converted to the OB and added the Yamaha I can here and talk pretty good on my boat now!!
I think it has to do with the fact that the out board is on a bracket behind a full transom.
No doubt that the 4 stroke is quite, But if all I have to do is rasie my voice a little I will stay with the 2 stroke.

chumbucket
10-05-2005, 12:58 AM
I'd have to raise my voice a hell of a lot just to drown out the Jimmy Buffet music. :P Sorry. Couldn't resist, but I just don't get the attraction to that drivel of his ???

willy
10-05-2005, 01:28 AM
It's a mind place , thats all. just puts me in a frame of mind that feels like sun, women, cold beer and lots of fishing 8)

reelapeelin
10-05-2005, 08:27 AM
CB, you need to shut out the rest of the world and listen to a little ditty of his titled ''Juicy Fruit''...if that don't sell ya, ya ain't gonna be sold... ;) 8)...cool stuff... :)

As far as quiet motors go...heard an E-Tec fire up and take off the other day...no more noise than the Honda at idle or loaded...one of these days... ::)...

willy
10-05-2005, 08:50 PM
And CB if you get to son of a son of a sailor, and he went to Paris and still feel that way I'll understand it just is'nt going to happen for you but I will check your pulse ;D

chumbucket
10-05-2005, 10:41 PM
I've heard all them songs and more. Just doesn't do it for me. Just run your fingernails down the chaulkboard. ::)








Cheeseburger in Paradise? :-X

chesapeake724
10-05-2005, 10:50 PM
I'm guessing the HDPI just didn't bowl the market over. As I understand it, they're very temperamental and if they're not broken in right, they go t!ts up. The technology just wasn't that successful.

Off Topic
When I need to mellow out, I fire up "Pirate Looks at [thirty five...I mean] forty". ;D

reelapeelin
10-06-2005, 08:53 AM
OK, OK...JB doesn't pop your cork...I understand that, but just outta pure curiosity, anybody you like to listen to?... 8)...

chumbucket
10-06-2005, 09:47 AM
Blue's mostly. Stevie Ray Vaughn for example. 8)

Franco
10-06-2005, 09:53 AM
CB, GLAD TO HEAR THERE IS ANOTHER BLUES FAN OUT THERE!

reelapeelin
10-06-2005, 10:09 AM
Yeah, Stevie Ray's got it goin'...that's for sure...any JJ Cale in the collection?... 8)...

TMcGovern
10-06-2005, 10:57 AM
>:(Just as an aside..avoid the 300hp Yama like the plague. My neighbor has blown 2 of the three. Design flaw allows it to suck in water while in reverse. Luckly, both under warranty, but won't get them fixed until end of Striper season if he is lucky! FYI

reelapeelin
10-06-2005, 11:51 AM
Yeah, McG...been readin' about those time-bombs on THT...really believe only reason they're still in production is cause they GOTTA have 'em to sell on the big Gradys... ::)...

Wellcraft_Dave
11-08-2005, 02:28 AM
From what I understand, Yama drop'd the 250 due to some problems that they had with the 03 and 04 motors.

I have a 03 250 HPDI on my boat, and have been concerned about the problems. I got lucky and passed the golden threshold so my motor should be go to go. Yama rep here in NC said that if it were to have problems, they'd of happend within the first 40 hours of operation.

The problem? #2 cylinder oiling and a CPU problem. There is a service bulletin that was put out by Yama to fix them, but unfortunately, some folks get them before the bulletin... so alot of unhappy customers,,, but Yama did pony up the warranty and replaced heads and in some cases complete motors, but many lost trust in the 250's and 300's (HPDI).

the 300 HPDI had a problem with water ingestion via the cowling. This too was corrected via a service bulletin... but like the 250, folks felt reliability was shaky.

I'll be honest, I was very worried about it all the way up to the 80 hour mark, but now I've got 118 hours on her and I think it's a good motor, does what it's advertised to do and I'm happy with it.

If I had to do it over, I'd slap twin 175 Suzuki's on the back.

Just my .02

Pipe_Dream
11-08-2005, 10:49 AM
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Good posting! Thanks for that info, Dave. Have you heard anything about the 200? I have a personal stake in one of those . . .

reelapeelin
11-08-2005, 11:13 AM
Pipe, I haven't seen anything about the 200s on THT and WD's right...w/the hours you got on yours, if there was a problem, it woulda surfaced by now... ;)...

Pipe_Dream
11-08-2005, 02:28 PM
That's what I wanted to hear! ;D

Wellcraft_Dave
11-08-2005, 02:43 PM
Pipe, from what I understand, the 200 HPDI's are very reliable and touted as the motor to have. Shouldn't be any worries there.

I wouldnt over look a 250 or a 300 HPDI though... granted they have had problems, but most of that has been resolved and the motor's are good,,, Yama is standing behind them.
I'd definately get or have thrown in by the dealer an extended warranty and ensure the service bulletins were done and in writing.

I'm happy with mine, runs really nice and strong, pretty good on fuel too.

mirage2521
11-10-2005, 12:22 AM
Labii, don't know for sure, but maybe they feel the market is leaning that heavily in favor of 4-stroke technology and movin' away from2-stroke...I happen to disagree, but I think the reason they're keepin' the 300s is it's the ONLY power capable of pushin' the big ole Grady Whites to a decent cruising speed...that 33' Express and heard about one even bigger gotta have the OBs so they can sell the boats... ;)...Good to hear from ya...haven't seen ya around these parts lately... :)...


Those HPDIs do push those big Grady's I drive one 4-5 times a month for a very rich man..lol * It is a 33 express, it will jump up and do about 37 mph...but at 37 mph it is using 55 gallons an hour *$3.00 per gallon times 55 gallons per hour + $165.00 per hour to operate plus he has to pay me....it costs him right at $200.00 dollars an hour to operate that boat....not my cup of tea thats for sure