Jack plates ????

[mmiklosz]

I have a 20" Johnsons 225 1987 VRO. Looking to repower my '86 V20. I can put on a 25" if I use a jack plate. Not sure if I want to do that.
Has anyone had experience with them?
Thanks!

[Skools Out]

got 2 of them on different boats and had others worked out great it set make the motor and gives it more tuck or tilt so the boats planes faster plus the motor when fully tilted it will be totally out of the water.

[mmiklosz]

Skool,
How expensive, or difficult to mount are they?
Sounds like there is no downside, and may improve the performance of the boat. I love the idea of having the entire outdrive out of the water.

[Skools Out]

i have aluminum manual adjustable with the 5* tilt and i bought them used from a marine parts house in Ga for $75.

[Skools Out]

here's the guy i got mine from

Lanier Marine Liquidators.com (http://www.laniermarine.net/)
5410 Chattahoochee Industrial Park Rd
Cumming, GA 30041
CALL TOLL FREE: (866) 607-6616
PHONE: (770) 888-2628
FAX: (770) 781-2309
[email protected]

[Skools Out]

Look on his website at the used parts and the tops are cheap and they will make deals i've been there and picked up some motors and other parts. They have everything you'll ever need they buy 1000's of boats and strip them so if the part you need is on a boat they just go take it off lol.

[on_the_fly]

I have a similar question. I am looking to repower my 74 v20 cc (capsized last fall in her slip) had a 89 150 Merc which is now toast! but was a great dam motor. I am looking at a 05 150 four stroke Yamaha...25" I have the old style low cut transome. Should I redo the transome so it's higher? or jack plate?

[on_the_fly]

Oh yea, on more thing...weight wise is the Yamaha 150 4 stroke to heavy? I also found a 115 Yamaha 4 stroke, is that enough HP?

[Mac_Attack]

One of our members put on a 140 HP Johnson made by Suzuki. *He felt it did not have enough power. *115Hp I believe would be too low. *Bill Mc *;D


http://www.wellcraftv20.com/gallery/view_photo.php?set_albumName=album17&id=upper_view _sized

[willy]

I have a 99 Johnson 2st 115 hp on a bracket. Moves my 1985 V20 smartly, a 150 I think is about max unless you are towing twin skiers or something specific. The 115 2 stroke is making more torque than a four stroke 115 so if I was doing a 4 st. I'd go 150 hp. Big advantage I found between my v6 merc 150 and my 115 johnson v4 is the 115 is quieter and it sips gas. And it moves me and two adults with a full tank of gas 37-38 mph and gets up on plane quick.

[TheTinMan]

on the fly, If it were me, I'd either completely re-do and raise the transom 5" or enclose it totally and go with a bracket. Don't think I'd want to hang a new heavy 4 stroke on a 32 year old transom.


It's very pricey to have your transom professionally redone. If your handy and have the tools it can be done yourself.

Search the forums and find out all the info BEFORE you start, there's a ton of info out there.

Search these sites, you will see great writeups w/pics of complete transom re-do's

Try: http://classicmako.com/forum/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=3
and
http://forum.classicseacraft.com/postlist.php?Cat=&Board=UBB3

[willy]

Good advise Tin ;)

[willy]

Hey Skools, I'm coming down to crunch time as far as lowering my motor on my Armstrong bracket two inches like I need to do, or I found a fellow who makes a 3" setback jack plate, even though I need to lower the engine to prevent ventilation I'm getting I like where its at now because I have good skinny water ability.
Do you think an additional 3" setback would be a problem?

[Skools Out]

what's your total set back now with the plate? have you removed your bracket yet? if not i saw a great way to use your bracket as it is wihtout moving it.

[willy]

I have a Armstrong with a 30" set back, it was installed at least 3" to high. I spoke with Armstrong and I am good to redrill the holes where the engine mounts on the back of the bracket at least 2" lower and I have one more hole left in the motor mount itself. So I can get the drop I need but the jack plate looks like a good way for me to get the best of both worlds. Debating whether worth it or if to expensive and set back to much farther

[willy]

And what do you mean great way to use it without removing it

[Skools Out]

a hydraulic jackplate mounted to the bracket then the motor plus it gives you a way to get into shallower water by raising the whole motor. I've seen them on several offshore and several skiffs at the coast so they can get into shallow water. and yes they were on brackets all of them i've seen it worked great and i like the idea. i'm going to do it on my skiff even though i don't even need a jack plate but that way i can get in super shallow water.

[willy]

can I do it with 30" set back already and are they expensive ???

[Skools Out]

yeah you can do it

they aren't to bad if you find a used one on ebay or call that boat yard i posted earlier in this post they most likely have several there they will make you a deal on.

[willy]

do they come in a 3" set back like the ones I saw new or are they longer, I dont want to go to far

[macojoe]

They are nice, but on a 30" bracket and then go back another 3" thats a lot of leavrage with the weight of the motor hanging back there!!
Better hope that the transom is 100%

[willy]

Agreed MJ ;) my concern exactly. Though I am 100% about the transom I do not like some of the slow handling characteristics of a bracket and I don't know if it is worth the expense .

[TheTinMan]

Here's a jackplate for sale, not sure if it's available tough, may be up someones butt :o

http://classicmako.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=826

[Blue_Runner]

If its a fixed mount jackplate you're after, I bought one a while back that has a 4" setback and 5" lift for around $75 brand new. Here's a shot of it when it was on my V20:
http://www.wellcraftv20.com/gallery/albums/album33/S2010084.sized.jpg

[willy]

Hey Blue when you say a fixed jack plate I get confused, because you have 5" of adjustment on that thing right.
Do you mean you can't adjust that while underway. Only when on a trailer or whatever you can adjust it manualy

[macojoe]

it will give you a fixed 5" in height, this is good if you7 want to add a 25" shaft on a 20" transom, and no it does not move under way.

The bracket does slow you down in a slow turn, but the handling is so much better then the I/O set up IMO!!

I really worry about all the bouncinmg on that transom when driving down the road!! :-/
But I made a huge long transom saver to hold it up when under way!!
CB says if it was ever to fall off it would take out a 10 lane highway!

[willy]

Gotcha MJ, hey I'm reading your post here and the other post about trailers, your set up to tow a lot better than my old single axle, how come you don't put that puppy to use this June, we could cruise down together bracketed V20's in tandem ;D

[Blue_Runner]

There is some room for adjustment because of the hole placement, but that involves taking the bolts out and moving up or down. Thats why its "fixed". Made to give you your 5 extra inches to use a 25" motor on a 20" shaft. A cheap alternative to blowing a couple hundred on an adjustable, if you don't need adjustablity.

[willy]

Gotcha

[on_the_fly]

Thanks TinMan! I does flex a bit I will check out the bracket idea! The bad news was It capsized, but I had it upright and pumped out in 30 minutes. Wait it gets better--I had it insured for $9500.00, the insurance company totaled it and told me I could keep it. I have some clean up and tank draining to do, but I have almost 10 G's to repower so maybe a used motor and the transome fix and bracket?.

[TheTinMan]

on the fly, I'm assuming with your name you are a fly fisherman, no? You have the best layout V20 for flyfishing. The bow area is huge and nice and level, not like the mid m80's and on V20 CC's. Get rid of the bowrail and flush mount your cleats and pop up bow light. Post some pics of your boat when you get a chance.

[Franco]

Hey Tin, Check out this link

http://www.portaproducts.com/