How Much Weight is Too Much? Got New to Me Engine

[Bygracealone]

Hey guys,

Is a 455 pound engine too much weight to be hanging on a bracket? *Just curious. *

[willy]

properly mounted bracket on a V20 with a good transom, no I would not think so. Common weight area for engines, several guys on this board have V6 engines with brackets that weigh around that.

[Bygracealone]

Thanks Willy,

I just bought this engine:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1,1&item=4650458443&sspa gename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AIT

It's counter-rotating, but I think it should do fine and got it for a good price. *$2900 plus $400 shipping to my house. *Not too shabby, huh *???

[phester]

a dually w/ a bracket, and 200 ponies?.....you are stylin' now. Motor looks nice ,good luck!

[willy]

Looks sweet, you will be flying with that baby, lotta gas too Grace, you sure :o You own your own gas station down there ;D

[phester]

Grace, I've got the same motor in the 150 version. They are known to be good, extra reliable motors, real workhorse,but, they are not known for their fuel efficiency. Every V6 200 is gonna suck it down anyway....bolt it up and enjoy!

[macojoe]

Most any bracket will hold 300 hp!! So no matter what you got the bracket will hold it!

Just have to make sure the transom was built to with stand the weight!!

My motor is 390, so you are talking just 65 pounds more, I stand on mine to fish and stuff with no problems.

But I am nerves with that weight hanging off the rear while trailing, all that weight bouncing!

Most go just fine and never have a problem, But I made up a Transom saver that CB says will take out a 4 lane hwy if it were ever to fall off! :o

But I rather be safe then have the transom crack later! And seeing that I did the transom myself I am not all that confident

[Skools Out]

i emailed that guy about both but he was to high for both. Same motor as the 200 /225 from 1988 to 1999 so their are a ton of them out there. If you want it to be a 225 just buy a set of 225 carbs. that all that changes.

[Blue_Runner]

That's a good reliable motor Grace. Plenty of power and should last a long long time.

MJ had some good advice on trailering IMO. Going over RR tracks can be bad news for heavy outboards. But apparently you have to make your own transom saver due to the bracket?

MJ - got pics of yours?

[Bygracealone]

Hey guys,

Thanks for all of your words of encouragement.

Skools, welcome home buddy. Hey, the other motor actually sold for $3800! By the way, why in the world would you be interested in buying two more motors??? You already have the fastest motor stand in the world ;D

[macojoe]

LOL Yea I will get a pic later today!!

Nothing special!! Long *** sign pole with a holder on the end, sets on the trailer and motor sits in it.

[Blue_Runner]

I wouldn't mind putting one on my V-21 with the bracketish transom ;)

[Seacrets]

this is what i use. it works great. www.m-ywedge.com

[Blue_Runner]

Seacrets,

How long have you used it and have you ever used a regular transom saver before?

I'm just curious because this mywedge thing looks likt it doesn't attach to the trailer, so I'm wondering how well it would actually work?

Your thoughts?

[Seacrets]

Used it for three years with no issues. I never used the metal unit that attaches to the trailer. I've towed my boats 500 miles round trip with no problems and no transom damage. Same motor has been on the transom for 22 years. 1985 Mercury 150 hp V6.

[willy]

I'm confused as usual, isn't the idea behind a transom saver to tie some of the weight of the motor to another source besides your transom. I know bouncing a lot can also be a problem and I see that that rubber piece may dampen some of that like a shock absorber effect. But it still has all the weight on the transom and no transfer of energy to anything other than the transom.
I was considering doing some type of saver for my boat but this would be a lot easier obviously. So am I off base with the concerns ???

[racerx]

Same motor as the 200 /225 from 1988 to 1999

i am looking at a 91 200 johnson that has 90 pounds at all six cylinders. his says 115 pounds. if the motors are the same, does this mean the one i am looking at is worn out? my 79 150 evinrude has close to 105 at all 6 and that already had me worried

[Stinky_Hooker]

Rcer, the #'s arent as important as the DIFFERENCE between the numbers...if they are all close to the same then thats good. ;)

[racerx]

thats what i've heard but, we're talkin 25 pounds difference hear. that dont sound a little steep?

[Bygracealone]

Racer, 90 lbs does sound a bit low, but i'm no mechanic!

What state do you live in?

I had my eye on this 175 from the Wilmington boys:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1,1&item=4651263417&sspa gename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT

If you live in or near MD, this 200 also looks good, but it may need some carb work:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1,1&item=4650816447&sspa gename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT

This 200 also looks appealing:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1,1&item=4651815397&sspa gename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT

Steve

[Skools Out]

90 is exactly what a 200 / 255 looper should be even, only the 120/130/140 loopers will run be on 125 to be perfect. I have a brand new from OMC 225 powerhead in the garage with 0 hours on it and it has 90 exact on all 6. OMC Shop Manual says anything with shaved heads should not exceed over 105 can cause motor and starter damage.

[Bygracealone]

Good thing I qualified my comment :P

Racer, listen to the guys who know what they're talking about...

As Rosana Rosana Dana would say, "Never mind." ;D

[macojoe]

Decarb the motor, Carbon builds an gives you low numbers sometimes, Yamaha is know for this alot!!

But as Stink said, as long as they are all close it all good

[Blue_Runner]

...not to mention you can use two different compression testers on the same motor and get different readings.

[macojoe]

Thanks to advances in boat-building technology over the last decade, modern transoms are created to withstand torque. That’s why the m-ywedge™ is so long overdue. It’s only eight inches long, so it fits in any boat storage compartment, unlike the old style transom saver. It works with manual or hydraulic jack plates, and regular or long shaft models. It’s virtually indestructible as well as UV and saltwater resistant. It won’t harm the trailer, outboard or boat and perhaps most importantly, it completely eliminates the need to lean underneath the boat for installation, nothing to hold on to.



Looks good, but as the add above states,

"Thanks to advances in boat-building technology over the last decade, modern transoms are created to withstand torque. "

We are not talking about new boats, we are talking about 20+ year old boats that were never built to with stand the toruqe!!

400+ pounds sticking out 3 feet from the transom is a lot of tourqe, and I anit taking any chances on my 31 year old boat!
Looks like crap, but works, and just takes 1 min longer to hook up!
I will get a pic later, but its home made and looks ruff, but it works!!

[Blue_Runner]

Good eye MJ ;)

[Bygracealone]

I'm with you MJ. I ain't taking no chances. As CB said, one set of RR tracks and it's all she wrote, good night, party's over!

I'm looking forward to seeing what you've made.

[Blue_Runner]

Going over RR tracks can be bad news for heavy outboards.
Hey, I'm the one that said that! Don't be giving away all my credit to CB! >:( e gets enough credit around here ;D

(Just kidding ;D)

Blue

[willy]

So I guess the gist of what you are saying is that a transom saver is a better way to transfer weight/force to another source ( trailer), right?

[Bygracealone]

Oops, sorry BR, my bad.

So, as BR said, ... ;D

[Blue_Runner]

That's better! :-* :P

[macojoe]

http://syncboard.com/albums/Boat-Tackle-Box/Picture_249.jpg

http://syncboard.com/albums/Boat-Tackle-Box/Picture_250.jpg

http://syncboard.com/albums/Boat-Tackle-Box/Picture_247.jpg

[willy]

Thanks MJ you gave me an idea ;)

[macojoe]

what was nice about the sign post was it was hit by a 18 wheeler and bent perfect!!
Also with all the holes in it, it was perfect to adjust the pole to the right leanth

[reelapeelin]

Willy, I've been usin a transom saver for a while now...seein' the weight of the motor come down on that thing, I KNOW it's takin' the weight and bouncin' off my 32 year old transom...and YES... it DOES transfer some of the motor's weight to the trailer ;) ...you are not confused at all!! ;D ;D...