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High_Wire
10-05-2006, 10:06 PM
Replacing a 150 with a 1998 225 johnson 2 stroke carb motor. How much pitch do I need with a 3 blade alum? How fast will it go?
1987 V20 cuddy

Skools Out
10-06-2006, 01:02 AM
stainless 15 x 17 or 15 x 19 17 better i think.

Airslot
10-06-2006, 10:09 AM
Skools, most of us with 150's will twist a 17p to max rpm's. I'd say 19p if not 21' for the 225 boys.

Airslot

Seacrets
10-06-2006, 11:14 AM
I also run a 17" with a 150 hp @ 5500 rpm

Skools Out
10-06-2006, 12:15 PM
My 225's all have 17's on them except 1 it has a Merc 19 Offshore stainless prop. The 225 off Boater93's boat has a 15 x 17 Mich. Stainless Prop.

HEY BOATER93 WHERE ARE YOU lol.

What was your WOT RPM's with the old 225?

Seacrets
10-06-2006, 12:23 PM
My current prop was off my 225 Merc, however that was on a 24' boat (1997 Sea Ray Laguna). *It works perfectly on my 150. *My 150 came with a 17'' on the V20 when I bought it. *Both props are the same diameter. *

Airslot
10-06-2006, 12:34 PM
THis is intresting. Looks to me like once you get to 150 hp that the advantage of more power falls of very quickly on these hulls. If the gear ratio's are the same and you can't turn more prop, why bother?

Airslot

TheTinMan
10-07-2006, 09:19 AM
I would think a 21" pitch for a 225, maybe a 19" ???

TheTinMan
10-07-2006, 09:22 AM
Hey, try this prop guide, works for my boat;

http://appcenter.mercurymarine.com/propSelector/home.do

Tail_Gunner
10-08-2006, 02:11 AM
Second post here, but ive owned a few boats and these wellcrafts are a bit different, Id suggest a 20 pitch baypro 2 stilletto. For what ever reason they respond very well to that type of prop( lots of stern lift)

http://www.boatownersworld.ca/stiletto/bay_pro_series.htm

macojoe
10-08-2006, 09:41 AM
for $340 bucks it better sleep with me to!! :o

Welcome to the board!!

Airslot
10-08-2006, 10:13 AM
Well MJ, I guess it could sleep with ya. The hub should already be lubed, but watch for the sharp edges. :D

Airslot

Skools Out
10-08-2006, 01:20 PM
i checked my old 225 off my boat it was a 14.5 x 19 cupped stainless Merc prop. and Boaters had a 15 x 17 Mich. stainless cupped. I would like to try a 21 myself. I'm going to find one on ebay and test a 21 when the boat is afloat.

Tail_Gunner
10-09-2006, 02:00 AM
for $340 bucks it better sleep with me to!! *:o

Welcome to the board!!


;D Well how about it lift's your stern so high there is no longer a running wake just a frothy atomizied disturbance behind your transom........maybe a little chine walk and at 40 its as smooth as silk on a 3 foot chop.

Ummm better than your current sex life .... you be the judge....... ;)

Perfidiajoe
10-10-2006, 08:18 PM
I have a '77 cuddy w/ a '95 225 Merc. EFI, & I have a couple of props. I have a 17" x15 1/2" stock Merc Alum. Prop, which I can turn at 5700 to 5800, & get about 46 to 47 mph, I have two Mirage SS Props Which I got on E-Bay which are 19" x 15 1/4", One I run as is, & it turns About 5300 to 5350, at 50 to 51 mph. The other I had redone, they took 2" of pitch out of it, & added a lot of cup, that one runs about 5500 to 5600, at 47.5 to 48.5 mph. Of course a lot depends on the day, wind and current, & especially load. All speeds GPS. The 19" unworked prop gets best cruse milage, good for off shore fishing, no hole shot needed. The reworked Mirage best all around performance. SS definately better than Alum. look around on E-Bay for a deal. I hope these numbers help you some. Good Luck, Joe

76GMC1500
10-10-2006, 11:26 PM
THis is intresting. *Looks to me like once you get to 150 hp that the advantage of more power falls of very quickly on these hulls. *If the gear ratio's are the same and you can't turn more prop, why bother?

Airslot

The bigger motors have lower gear ratios and spin the shorter pitch prop faster. You still get more speed for a given engine rpm even though the pitch of the props are the same.

If the gear ratio of the 225 and 150's are the same and the 150 guys are running a 17, then I would run a 19. If you have a lower gear ratio than the 150's, I would stick with a 17.

Skools Out
10-11-2006, 01:27 AM
omc all V6's have same ratio
and
all V4's have same ratio

High_Wire
10-16-2006, 10:05 PM
Thanks for the input. I traded the 15x17 for a 19" pitch even up to start. I will post the results when I get it in the water.

reelapeelin
10-17-2006, 08:31 AM
OK...it's been about 10 1/2 hours since you said you'd post results of new prop...so what's the hold-up??.... ;D ;D ...

racerx
10-17-2006, 01:42 PM
is ss realy that much better than aluminium? why? i know it will flex less but, that is why i want to remove my ss and put on aluminium. so when, not if, i hit something i tear up the prop, not the unit. i have seen a few outboards on ebay that needed new cranks due to this very thing. do y'all think if they were spinning aluminium props it would have saved the crank?

reelapeelin
10-17-2006, 02:56 PM
racer, for me it would depend on what kind of water you mostly run in...stumpy, shallow water, I'd have an alum prop, too, for the reason you mention...but most of the water I run in is deeper and I like the performance of SS prop...when I go shallow, it's usually w/ the elec trollin' motor... :D ...

LESTERUS
10-17-2006, 05:29 PM
RIGTH ON, RP !!! THE WORSE ENEMY OF A SHIP IS THE SHORE !!! I PERSONALLY FEEL BETTER WHEN I HAVE 1000 FT UNDERNEATH. I'LL GO WITH SS PROP FOR THIS USE.

LESTERUS

Perfidiajoe
10-17-2006, 05:52 PM
SS will out perform alum. that's why you go SS, the prop is behind the bullet of the lower unit, & the skeg. If you hit something hard these will hit first, doing the damage to the lower unit, not the prop. Besides that is why you also have a rubber coupler so the prop will spin, & not break anything else. Of course if you try hard enough you can over come anything. I boat on The Great South Bay, I clam a lot as well as fish off shore. I've run A SS almost exclusively for 12 seasons, same, original lower unit, & there were times it looked as if I were rototilling. Good luck, Joe

Airslot
10-17-2006, 06:14 PM
Hey, I keep my prop polished as well ;D

Airslot

LESTERUS
10-17-2006, 06:27 PM
HEY GUYS: I MIGTH BE ABLE TO GET MY HANDS ON A 225HP MERCURY OPTIMAX 2001, QUESTION:

IS IT TO HEAVY FOR THE V-21, HOW IS IT RUN?

LESTERUS