lobster Boats

[sfprovyn]

Any of you boys from new england know much about these boats? I've been seeing more and more every year out here way off shore plodding along around 18 MPH with 4 or 5 guys comfortably fishing in go fast sport fishie country and have always liked the utility beefy looks of them. I was fueling up my buddies sport fishie the other night and a guy tied up behind me with a 32 footer and gave me a tour. I was amazed at how much space especially down below, 2 full sized bunks, all kinds of under bunk storage,I'm 6'5 250 and had plenty of side to side room and could stand up. a big V head area where you could actually stand up to Pis2. This one had a huge single cat inboard , a large in deck fish box , live well ,heavy duty thick glass and cabin , fresh and salt water washdowns , a sink, small stove, lots of rod storage, built in coolers etc. I dont know where gas prices are going to go but to my way of thinking these things are the real deal and who needs all the bells and whistles..I would guess that they are a semi displacement type hull and they are very wide and stable. What companies build them and has anyone ever fished off one of them? Frank

[TheTinMan]

"Downeast" boats, love em. Seaworthy, efficient and SLOW.


This should get you started....good reading. :)
http://www.thehulltruth.com/search/query.asp?fid=0&action=search&searchforumid=all&ke ywords=downeast&mode=1&subjects=1&author=&collapse threads=1&days=6&datemode=3&custom-start=&custom-end=

Here's a "Willis Beal" I've been drooling over recently.
http://www.thehulltruth.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=106671&posts=6

The only one I've ever fished was a 42' Bruno & Stillman out of Montauk many moons ago, called "Sea Doll". Boat was actually on "American Sportsman" in the 70's for a shark fishing episode. Had a single 671 turbo diesel and did about 18kts. HUGE teak cockpit, loved that boat.

Here's a 42 Bruno out of Montauk, possible it's the old Sea Doll???

http://www.montauksportfishing.com/herlsgirl.html

[Pipe_Dream]

One of the few boats that could pull me away from the PD would be a "lobster yacht." But only if I come into some big $$$. ;D To my eye, there's nothing finer. Wasque and Fortier are drop dead gorgeous, and I'd take one if I could. But if I could go all-out I'd buy one from one of the many small Maine yards.

Great post, Tin -- you've given ME lots to read! ;)

[chumbucket]

Here ya go Pipe. I know this guy. Beautiful boat. 8)

http://boston.craigslist.org/boa/174917009.html

[Blue_Runner]

Well, CB you lost me on the gas engine. *I'd have to have a diesel in one of those. *Just wouldn't be right without those fumes!

Oh baby, didja see one of those mjm yatchs in Tin's post? Whoa!! Where can I get one of these! I'm having trouble concentrating on work right now ;D
http://www.mjmyachts.com/frontpics/4.jpg

[chumbucket]

Yeah, I hear ya on the gas part. Still a beautiful boat though that a diesel could be dropped into down the road a bit.

[sfprovyn]

Tin: Hey thanks much for the info. Holy Shi# those are nice boats and excellent links about them. I will need to win the NC lottery to buy one but they are still a bargain compared to comparable sport fishies and who cares how fast they go. I guess I will have to act fast to win the lottery as the anti Devil forces here in North Carolina are trying everything they can to repeal it and save us from the fires of damnation...I cant wait until they try to outlaw Jack Daniels which we all know is also the work of the evil devil...Frank

[willy]

Oh no you don't, Old Jack has nothing to do with the devil, after spending many an afternoon checking into the matter I have it on good sources that it is actually heaven sent, I even heard voices at one point letting me know 8)

[Pipe_Dream]

Here ya go Pipe. I know this guy. Beautiful boat. 8)

http://boston.craigslist.org/boa/174917009.html
Oh man . . . :'(
How sweet that'd be . . .
Let me check my MegaMillions ticket . . .


Nope, it's going to have to wait. But I'll be on the PD this weekend! ;D 8)

[TheTinMan]

Oh man! The Sisu 22 has been one of my favorite and here's one local! I like the diesel inboard but a Honda 50 on a bracket sounds very reliable and minimum maintenance. What do you think she would cruise at with the 50?

asking $12,900 which APPEARS to be a good deal.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v206/Mnutz/sisu-1.jpg

[sfprovyn]

Tin: I dont know anything about those kinds of boats but it looks like a good deal and you could probably get it a lot cheaper than the asking price at least thats the way they sell down here because no one has any money. IF you are JUST going to troll around close to the slip then the 50 would be plenty but if ya need to do some serious running then it would take forever to get anywhere and overwork the engine..but its a neat looking boat..Frank

[Blue_Runner]

Frank, how much does a 30ft slip go for down there right now? I'm talkin buy, not rent.

[TheTinMan]

33' Fortier:

http://www.thehulltruth.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=86613&posts=25

[willy]

Tin any more pics of that Sisu 22 or info, love the looks of that and I have a friend that might be interested.

[TheTinMan]

Willy, only 1 more pic of the engine. I actually have a call in to the broker for more info. I'm real curious as the cruise speed, I'm thinking about 10-12 kts, but hoping for more. It has 2- 18 gallons tank. I think a 90hp would push it where I'd like to be, 17-20kts, just a guess though.

I'll let you know what I found out.

[willy]

OK Tin thanks, any idea of the draft on those?

[TheTinMan]

I think 2 feet.

[TheTinMan]

Just did a little more research on the Sisu. I doubt that 50hp will cruise at even 10kts.

A 115 4s will cruise it at 15 MPH (3800rpm), top speed 22-24mph @ 5200. 3.5gph @ cruise.

[TheTinMan]

Now this is cool. 22 Sisu w/140 Suzie 4s, cruise 20kts. I'll take it!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v206/Mnutz/sisu2-1.jpg

[willy]

Did some internet checking around on those boats, a few different companies make the same design, based on the Lowell hull design. Very sea worthy, lot of people use the 30 footer for long coastal stuff. They are slow and their draft on a 22 footer with their keel design is 3 ft :o Leaves my friend out down in Barnegat Bay area. Supposed to be very well built, stringers on the mid 80' era boats were fully encapsulated and heavy duty. Popular with lobster guys as a semi displacement hull with a diesel engine in the bigger size as fuel efficeint and sea worthy and carry a lot of weight well. The 22 footer is over 7000 lbs. Heavy boat! Fisherman that take out paying customers don't use them due to their slow speed but a lot of recreational guys up north like them because they are comfortable in the cold and due to the huge tide changes they get they have some heavy duty waves in inlets to handle and they handle them well.

[sfprovyn]

Blue Runner: You know I dont know what slips sell for as I have a lift on my dock but I'm sure its expensive like everything else related to boating. A sport fishie captain friend of mine pays $ 9k a year for his boat (which is a Viking 57 ) and charter insurance and $1,200 for captains insurance. With the price of gas, lost bad weather days ,maintenance and slips I dont see how these guys make it. Most of them work on their own boats or they would never break even..Frank

[Pipe_Dream]

Thread revival, mostly because I saw this:

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j228/4MyDogs/Wellcraft/Ellis28.jpg
http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listing/boatFullDetails.jsp?boat_id=1541484&ybw=&units=Fee t¤cy=USD&access=Public&listing_id=1852&url=

I've seen well finished versions of these for $85K and up into the $100Ks. I could finish this one just the way I want it. NOCANDO at present, but perhaps someday...

[TheTinMan]

Here's a good downeast project. Wonder how it is with aluminum hull???

http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listing/boatDetails.jsp?
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