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willy
11-29-2006, 09:51 PM
Went to PA mountains with my son for two days during the rifle season, stayed with a long time friend and hunting partner at his home in Montrose PA.
Last year he got screwed by the adjoining property guys who shot his buck after seeing it was cleanly shot and bleeding out right on the property line, put five shots in it as it tried to get up on their approach and claimed it for theirs. Could not care less that it was a kids first buck, first deer, a little forky four pointer. If my son had not been there and I did not want him to experience any more bad hunters and bad experience I would have butt stroked the lead guy and taken the deer.
My son then 13 was amazing in that he kept his mouth shut and stood proud and told me it was OK Dad and that was how his first deer season went.
This year we went back and he kept a positive attitude the whole time, stayed 12 hours in a rock outcropping blind we made weeks ago and all we saw was does.
Second day we sat until noon in a different spot and again saw does only. My good friend and his son decided they were going to do a slow push of a heavy cover area by just going in about half a mile from us and see if they got anything moving. I took my son to an area that was about 200 yards wide and sort of a natural funnel and quickly showed him how to shoot from a standing position using a tree as a brace and cover and we waited, about half an hour later a buck comes sneaking down following two does and moving very cautiously. He gave us a 65 yard shot broadside at a slow walk and my son had to shoot thru gaps in the forest. I had my Winchester on the buck the whole time from the adjacent tree and told him to take the shot when he felt he could. I heard a boom and saw the buck hunch and run like crazy and disappear over a little rise, no oppurtunity for a second shot.
We waited about 20 minutes and I told him to mark the spot he was at when he shot. We went over there and started looking and no blood, nothing. His face was full of doubt but I told him it would be OK either way, we just need to follow up and make sure one way or another. He smiled and we started following the tracks of a running deer in the woods for about thirty feet and then we saw it, BLOOD, good pink frothy blood ;D twenty yards away lie a beatiful eight pointer shot clear thru both lungs and dead.
My friend and his son had heard the shot and came into the woods and found us.
I don't think there is a better moment for an avid outdoorsman than when his young son takes loss in stride and comes back to step up to the plate and make a great shot. The look on his face when we found the buck is worth evey trouble I have ever had in my life.
Fellows I give you Daniel Christopher Schultz and his prize

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f138/bill_schultz/dananddeer.jpg

Proud Papa and son

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f138/bill_schultz/846703-R1-23-23_024.jpg

And the kinda friends everyone needs

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f138/bill_schultz/846703-R1-19-19_020.jpg

willy
11-29-2006, 09:51 PM
Went to PA mountains with my son for two days during the rifle season, stayed with a long time friend and hunting partner at his home in Montrose PA.
Last year he got screwed by the adjoining property guys who shot his buck after seeing it was cleanly shot and bleeding out right on the property line, put five shots in it as it tried to get up on their approach and claimed it for theirs. Could not care less that it was a kids first buck, first deer, a little forky four pointer. If my son had not been there and I did not want him to experience any more bad hunters and bad experience I would have butt stroked the lead guy and taken the deer.
My son then 13 was amazing in that he kept his mouth shut and stood proud and told me it was OK Dad and that was how his first deer season went.
This year we went back and he kept a positive attitude the whole time, stayed 12 hours in a rock outcropping blind we made weeks ago and all we saw was does.
Second day we sat until noon in a different spot and again saw does only. My good friend and his son decided they were going to do a slow push of a heavy cover area by just going in about half a mile from us and see if they got anything moving. I took my son to an area that was about 200 yards wide and sort of a natural funnel and quickly showed him how to shoot from a standing position using a tree as a brace and cover and we waited, about half an hour later a buck comes sneaking down following two does and moving very cautiously. He gave us a 65 yard shot broadside at a slow walk and my son had to shoot thru gaps in the forest. I had my Winchester on the buck the whole time from the adjacent tree and told him to take the shot when he felt he could. I heard a boom and saw the buck hunch and run like crazy and disappear over a little rise, no oppurtunity for a second shot.
We waited about 20 minutes and I told him to mark the spot he was at when he shot. We went over there and started looking and no blood, nothing. His face was full of doubt but I told him it would be OK either way, we just need to follow up and make sure one way or another. He smiled and we started following the tracks of a running deer in the woods for about thirty feet and then we saw it, BLOOD, good pink frothy blood ;D twenty yards away lie a beatiful eight pointer shot clear thru both lungs and dead.
My friend and his son had heard the shot and came into the woods and found us.
I don't think there is a better moment for an avid outdoorsman than when his young son takes loss in stride and comes back to step up to the plate and make a great shot. The look on his face when we found the buck is worth evey trouble I have ever had in my life.
Fellows I give you Daniel Christopher Schultz and his prize

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f138/bill_schultz/dananddeer.jpg

Proud Papa and son

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f138/bill_schultz/846703-R1-23-23_024.jpg

And the kinda friends everyone needs

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f138/bill_schultz/846703-R1-19-19_020.jpg

willy
11-29-2006, 09:57 PM
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f138/bill_schultz/846703-R1-23-23_024.jpg

willy
11-29-2006, 09:57 PM
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f138/bill_schultz/846703-R1-23-23_024.jpg

willy
11-29-2006, 09:59 PM
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f138/bill_schultz/846703-R1-21-21_022.jpg

willy
11-29-2006, 09:59 PM
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f138/bill_schultz/846703-R1-21-21_022.jpg

Stinky_Hooker
11-29-2006, 10:21 PM
Man Willy that is what its all about right there! What a wonderful trip and memories! AWWSOME!!! 8)

Stinky_Hooker
11-29-2006, 10:21 PM
Man Willy that is what its all about right there! What a wonderful trip and memories! AWWSOME!!! 8)

macojoe
11-29-2006, 11:20 PM
Awesome!! Willy sounds like a great trip!!

macojoe
11-29-2006, 11:20 PM
Awesome!! Willy sounds like a great trip!!

willy
11-29-2006, 11:24 PM
One of the best my friend and thanks Stink, knew you especially would appreciate this post.

willy
11-29-2006, 11:24 PM
One of the best my friend and thanks Stink, knew you especially would appreciate this post.

msbhammer
11-29-2006, 11:30 PM
Great trip Willy, brings back memories when my father and I use to hunt together. Memories like that last a life time and more. Your son will someday tell his kids the stories that the two of you have done together.

P.S. I like my burger well done please. ;D ;D

msbhammer
11-29-2006, 11:30 PM
Great trip Willy, brings back memories when my father and I use to hunt together. Memories like that last a life time and more. Your son will someday tell his kids the stories that the two of you have done together.

P.S. I like my burger well done please. ;D ;D

Stinky_Hooker
11-29-2006, 11:31 PM
You got that right brother!!!

I remember when my wife got her first last year...meant more to me than ALL of em I had ever killed together!!

Cant wait till the kids are old enough. ;D

The weekend after Xmas I am taking a buddy to my place to put his little girl on a deer. She is six and was born with spina bifida . She is unable to walk but really wants to kill a deeer bad. I will video the whole thing...That will be sweet!! 8)

Stinky_Hooker
11-29-2006, 11:31 PM
You got that right brother!!!

I remember when my wife got her first last year...meant more to me than ALL of em I had ever killed together!!

Cant wait till the kids are old enough. ;D

The weekend after Xmas I am taking a buddy to my place to put his little girl on a deer. She is six and was born with spina bifida . She is unable to walk but really wants to kill a deeer bad. I will video the whole thing...That will be sweet!! 8)

Franco
11-29-2006, 11:47 PM
Thats awesome Brother Willy!!
Congrats to the the young hunter!

Franco
11-29-2006, 11:47 PM
Thats awesome Brother Willy!!
Congrats to the the young hunter!

msbhammer
11-29-2006, 11:59 PM
You Stink, you have kids ?
I have three girls. 19, 11, and eight. Two from past relationship, the third is from Lisa's past relationship.
So that three weddings I gotta fork out for. We wanna have one more, hopefully a son. We will see how things go in another year. Hoping to be in a new home within a year. 8)

msbhammer
11-29-2006, 11:59 PM
You Stink, you have kids ?
I have three girls. 19, 11, and eight. Two from past relationship, the third is from Lisa's past relationship.
So that three weddings I gotta fork out for. We wanna have one more, hopefully a son. We will see how things go in another year. Hoping to be in a new home within a year. 8)

willy
11-30-2006, 12:21 AM
Thanks guys

willy
11-30-2006, 12:21 AM
Thanks guys

Airslot
11-30-2006, 12:59 AM
Congrats Willy...Thats what its all about.

Airslot

Airslot
11-30-2006, 12:59 AM
Congrats Willy...Thats what its all about.

Airslot

chumbucket
11-30-2006, 01:02 AM
Daniel C. Schultz; You are the MAN!!!!!!!!!!!! Awesome work son. You are a man with skills beyond your years. Mentally, physically, and skillfully. You should be proud of yourself of which I'm sure you are.
Willy, ya done good brother. Nothing much more satisfying. Is there? 8) ;D

chumbucket
11-30-2006, 01:02 AM
Daniel C. Schultz; You are the MAN!!!!!!!!!!!! Awesome work son. You are a man with skills beyond your years. Mentally, physically, and skillfully. You should be proud of yourself of which I'm sure you are.
Willy, ya done good brother. Nothing much more satisfying. Is there? 8) ;D

skpablo
11-30-2006, 01:07 AM
Willy,

That is great. You only have them for a few short years before they go off. And all we have when it's all said and done is our memories. Good or bad. You're making the good ones! He'll never forget it!

My daughter is the one who inspired me to get a boat again because she wanted to learn how to fish. I had to do it because in a few years she'll be into the boys and won't want to know me.

skpablo
11-30-2006, 01:07 AM
Willy,

That is great. You only have them for a few short years before they go off. And all we have when it's all said and done is our memories. Good or bad. You're making the good ones! He'll never forget it!

My daughter is the one who inspired me to get a boat again because she wanted to learn how to fish. I had to do it because in a few years she'll be into the boys and won't want to know me.

willy
11-30-2006, 01:22 AM
Thanks CB and SK much apreciated by me and Dan the Man ;)

willy
11-30-2006, 01:22 AM
Thanks CB and SK much apreciated by me and Dan the Man ;)

Stinky_Hooker
11-30-2006, 02:02 AM
Yep two girls...4 and 2. 8)

Stinky_Hooker
11-30-2006, 02:02 AM
Yep two girls...4 and 2. 8)

willy
11-30-2006, 02:05 AM
Get them out there, I'm getting my 12 year old super model in training out there next year

willy
11-30-2006, 02:05 AM
Get them out there, I'm getting my 12 year old super model in training out there next year

charlie_the_tuna
11-30-2006, 06:27 AM
hey willy, while no hunter i, (we just drive to stop n shop when we want food), it is important to do things with your kids.
i dont care if its killing animals or stealing hubcaps, you are giving this boy something he will keep with him always.
enjoy the feeling. you are doing good.

charlie_the_tuna
11-30-2006, 06:27 AM
hey willy, while no hunter i, (we just drive to stop n shop when we want food), it is important to do things with your kids.
i dont care if its killing animals or stealing hubcaps, you are giving this boy something he will keep with him always.
enjoy the feeling. you are doing good.

skpablo
11-30-2006, 11:36 AM
You have one of those super models too? That's my 14 year old exactly. She's a great kid though.

It's the 11 year old that wants to be fishing with me.

skpablo
11-30-2006, 11:36 AM
You have one of those super models too? That's my 14 year old exactly. She's a great kid though.

It's the 11 year old that wants to be fishing with me.

parishht
11-30-2006, 11:57 AM
Sounds like a great trip for you, your son and your friends.
Nice deer for a first one.

Good friends can be a God send,
someone once told me "friends are the family that you pick"

parishht
11-30-2006, 11:57 AM
Sounds like a great trip for you, your son and your friends.
Nice deer for a first one.

Good friends can be a God send,
someone once told me "friends are the family that you pick"

willy
11-30-2006, 04:15 PM
Parish my Dad used to tell me that one, about the friends. I've done pretty good over the years, thank God

willy
11-30-2006, 04:15 PM
Parish my Dad used to tell me that one, about the friends. I've done pretty good over the years, thank God

Blue_Runner
11-30-2006, 05:11 PM
Willy- that's an amazing story. Very nice buck! Tell Daniel its bigger than anything Blue's ever killed - and thats the truth!

Very cool indeed. That's one happy boy right there and rightfully so. I hate I didn't see this thread sooner.

Blue

Blue_Runner
11-30-2006, 05:11 PM
Willy- that's an amazing story. Very nice buck! Tell Daniel its bigger than anything Blue's ever killed - and thats the truth!

Very cool indeed. That's one happy boy right there and rightfully so. I hate I didn't see this thread sooner.

Blue

willy
11-30-2006, 06:56 PM
Thanks Blue, had my son read this post, got a big kick out of it, he thinks he's famous now ;D

willy
11-30-2006, 06:56 PM
Thanks Blue, had my son read this post, got a big kick out of it, he thinks he's famous now ;D

TheTinMan
11-30-2006, 07:45 PM
Awesome story! Literally gave me goosebumps :)

The smile on Dan's face says it all......ya dun good Willy ;)


CONGRATS DAN! http://users.telenet.be/eforum/emoticons4u/violent/sterb110.gif

TheTinMan
11-30-2006, 07:45 PM
Awesome story! Literally gave me goosebumps :)

The smile on Dan's face says it all......ya dun good Willy ;)


CONGRATS DAN! http://users.telenet.be/eforum/emoticons4u/violent/sterb110.gif

willy
11-30-2006, 11:59 PM
Thanks Tin ;)

willy
11-30-2006, 11:59 PM
Thanks Tin ;)

willy
12-01-2006, 08:22 PM
Now this monday Dad has got to go and get his, Jersey shotgun starts. This could be embarassing ;D

willy
12-01-2006, 08:22 PM
Now this monday Dad has got to go and get his, Jersey shotgun starts. This could be embarassing ;D

reelapeelin
12-01-2006, 08:36 PM
A valuable lesson last year and a life-long memory this year...both because his dad took him hunting...good work, Willy...more parents like you around, we wouldn't have so many probs... ;) ... ;D ...



That buck's got a helluva set of Norton Snaggers there ;D ;D ...

reelapeelin
12-01-2006, 08:36 PM
A valuable lesson last year and a life-long memory this year...both because his dad took him hunting...good work, Willy...more parents like you around, we wouldn't have so many probs... ;) ... ;D ...



That buck's got a helluva set of Norton Snaggers there ;D ;D ...

willy
12-01-2006, 08:42 PM
LMAO ;D

willy
12-01-2006, 08:42 PM
LMAO ;D

willy
12-04-2006, 11:31 PM
Well Dad went out today, all does everywhere. Funniest thing I was using my pop up blind. Set it up where the wind blew out into a field where the deer would not be down wind of me. Had two does walk up and stare into the openings trying to figure out what the h@ll this thing was, could have bayonnetted them.I stayed still, let them satisfy their curiosity and walk off.
Waited about five minutes and started doing a estrus doe call. Within two minutes got a nice five pointer coming in grunting with each step.
Took him at twenty yards and he went down just out of sight.
Now it's no eight pointer like my sons but it will do. Long drag out, did not get home until 6:30. Now I got to listen to my wife busting me for the little buck. ;D
No pics, camera battery died, I guess the cold got to it finally.

willy
12-04-2006, 11:31 PM
Well Dad went out today, all does everywhere. Funniest thing I was using my pop up blind. Set it up where the wind blew out into a field where the deer would not be down wind of me. Had two does walk up and stare into the openings trying to figure out what the h@ll this thing was, could have bayonnetted them.I stayed still, let them satisfy their curiosity and walk off.
Waited about five minutes and started doing a estrus doe call. Within two minutes got a nice five pointer coming in grunting with each step.
Took him at twenty yards and he went down just out of sight.
Now it's no eight pointer like my sons but it will do. Long drag out, did not get home until 6:30. Now I got to listen to my wife busting me for the little buck. ;D
No pics, camera battery died, I guess the cold got to it finally.

Blue_Runner
12-05-2006, 11:24 AM
Sounds like he was lookin for some nookie :D

Nice work on callin him in.

Blue_Runner
12-05-2006, 11:24 AM
Sounds like he was lookin for some nookie :D

Nice work on callin him in.

willy
12-05-2006, 11:55 AM
Thanks Blue, I have been a close observer of these critters for many years. I call in deer all the time and my kids get a kick out of it. Tell their friends that my Dad talks to deer ;D
Our shotgun season actually coincides with a secondary rut where yearling does and some mature does that did not get bred during the primary rut come into heat. A lot of guys don't realize that. I take advantage of it every year and call in does first with a yearling/fawn where the f*ck are you call and once I have does in the area I use them as attractants to call in bucks. Don't work all the time but better than 50% if I have a good wind set up. Try to put the my back to an area the bucks will not travel thru to get behind me to get a sniff.

willy
12-05-2006, 11:55 AM
Thanks Blue, I have been a close observer of these critters for many years. I call in deer all the time and my kids get a kick out of it. Tell their friends that my Dad talks to deer ;D
Our shotgun season actually coincides with a secondary rut where yearling does and some mature does that did not get bred during the primary rut come into heat. A lot of guys don't realize that. I take advantage of it every year and call in does first with a yearling/fawn where the f*ck are you call and once I have does in the area I use them as attractants to call in bucks. Don't work all the time but better than 50% if I have a good wind set up. Try to put the my back to an area the bucks will not travel thru to get behind me to get a sniff.

TheTinMan
12-05-2006, 12:01 PM
Nice Willy.....maybe you should get some "pointers" (pun intended) from Danny Boy! ;) ;D

TheTinMan
12-05-2006, 12:01 PM
Nice Willy.....maybe you should get some "pointers" (pun intended) from Danny Boy! ;) ;D

willy
12-05-2006, 12:12 PM
I knew that would be coming, that some dear friend would have to go there, it's inevitable ;D

willy
12-05-2006, 12:12 PM
I knew that would be coming, that some dear friend would have to go there, it's inevitable ;D

Blue_Runner
12-05-2006, 12:59 PM
I'm surprised the "picture junkies" haven't attacked you yet Willy. ;D

Hammer must be sleeping :-*

Blue_Runner
12-05-2006, 12:59 PM
I'm surprised the "picture junkies" haven't attacked you yet Willy. ;D

Hammer must be sleeping :-*

willy
12-05-2006, 03:53 PM
Oh it's coming it's coming ;D

willy
12-05-2006, 03:53 PM
Oh it's coming it's coming ;D

TheTinMan
12-05-2006, 04:19 PM
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12-05-2006, 04:19 PM
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