Pretty boat

[willy]

Went to the boat sportsman show here in Jersey yesterday, saw a real nice boat, wonder if any of you fellows ever been on one. It's a 2007 Pioneer 197 Sportfish CC. T Top recessed rails, toe rails, the works. Really finished nice, along the line of the Scout boats, matter of fact the owner of Pioneer is the nephew of the owner of Scout. It has a Suzuki 4 stroke 150 hp and a dual axle aluminum trailer. Complete canvass enclosure and wings along with electronics box on top of the T top and T bag. Never saw so much room behind the combo seat/large baitwell/rod holder combo before in a boat this size.
I was impressed and wonder if the ride comes up to the construction?

[lumberslinger178]

willy where was the show??
I have tickets to the atlantic city show for feb 2 , I will be bringing my camera so watch out pics will be every where.... I will look and see if theres any pioneers there.....

[willy]

I'm going to with a friend, not sure what day yet. It was the NJ Sportsman show at the Raritan expo ctr. Nice show, you should try to go next year if you can, hunting and fishing.

[randlemanboater]

You have to be careful at those boat shows, the sales guy will get you checking out how nice the construction is inside various hatches and doors, and before you know it you are loopy from the new fiberglass fumes and have signed a 20 year loan on a $50K boat.

[lumberslinger178]

You have to be careful at those boat shows, the sales guy will get you checking out how nice the construction is inside various hatches and doors, and before you know it you are loopy from the new fiberglass fumes and have signed a 20 year loan on a $50K boat.


lol sounds good to me ;D

[Skools Out]

looked at them last yr they build a 21 as well nice boats i really like the hull design.

[willy]

Yea I've been in that spiderweb before. I liked the boat though, had that thing opened up and looking inside and under with a flashlight. Yea I know, but I'm a cop, always have my little Streamlight with me.
Very nice, well layed out, could use some additional tackle storage which there s plenty of room for but other than putting electronics on it it is ready to go.

[Skools Out]

the place i bought my trailer from sells them

http://www.choplinmarine.com/

http://www.pioneerboats.com/assets/images/sport-fish.jpg

[willy]

Thats it Skools, Pretty ;)

[chumbucket]

Hey Skools. Why didn't you show the pic of willy sea-trialing the boat with the complimentary supermodels? ;D ;D ;D

http://www.pioneerboats.com/assets/images/sportfish203.jpg

[reelapeelin]

Hey Willy...pioneer's factory's in the Low Country of SC...c'mon down, tour the factory and I'll take ya fishin' at Lake Murray ... ;) ...

[Skools Out]

yeah have you noticed them Northern boy's love our southern boat's ;) what can we say good boat's, beer, and woman.

[reelapeelin]

yeah have you noticed them Northern boy's love our southern boat's ;) what can we say good boat's, beer, and woman.



Shhhh..... ;) ...

[willy]

Ah, youz guyz ;D I love AMERICAN boats, beer and especially the chickadees. I love em all. North South East and West

Chum did you notice how I was steadying up the red bikini one. Ah never mind.
No one ever road in one huh?

[Blue_Runner]

I have 2 different friends with that exact same boat. One is navy like that 2nd pic and the other is carolina blue. The navy has a 200hp Yamaha 4 stroke and the other I can't remember. Fished along side the navy one and he got better fuel economy than me (of course). And man will that thing fly with that 200! Over 50mph I'm sure! They're nice but I think each one has around or over 40 grand in a 20ft boat. :-/

[willy]

The boat with a blue(light) or a yellow hull and 150 HP 4stroke Suzzy and a aluminum dual axle is 31 G's after some negotiation.
Also he is going to give me 6 G's for my V20 minus my 9.9 Suzuki and minus my Lowrance 3500C.
Besides the boat itself which was very nice, that deal is hard to pass up. Especially since I can't seem to sell my V thru this site and I have seen other sweet V's just sitting.
Have not decided for sure but thinking hard about it.

Oh and the 150 Suzuki version does 47 mph flat out. Don't know when I would ever do that if ever but it does move

[Airslot]

Willy, it's a darn perty boat, and I think that the price is fair as well. *Sounds like you'd be out of pocket around 25g's or so? *Man, I'd have to think about that also. *Fresh shiny gelcoat, new motor w/ warranty, mmm tempting. *So, does it come with a 30 day free trial on the supermodel? ;D

Last thing I'll ask ya, thought you wanted to downsize to a tinboat that you could singlehand a little easier?

No matter where your heart leads ya, you ain't being released from this site. ;)

Airslot

[willy]

Thanks Air, I love you guys man :'(

You are correct, I am going thru a major decision making process now.
I found the salt (and some fresh water) boat I think I would prefer.
On the other hand I have also got a good price on a well equipped 18ft G3 aluminum all outfitted and 1 year old with 35 hours on a 2006 Yammi 90 2stroke. A $600 trolling motor set up, two expensive fishfinders and a load of other equipment. It belongs to a local dealer who is a friend of mine and it will mount my 9.9 on it for free.
Though it is G3's salt water boat too that would not be my main use other than some back bay, shallow water and river stuff. $8,800 and no tax ::)
That is where I'm at now. The salt is an hour to an hour and a half from me and I am lucky to get there once a week. On the other hand I got three huge fresh water impoundments within 10-20 minutes from me and the delaware river 30 minutes. The river and the bays I can use the big motor along with Lake Hopatcong in the north about an hour. The rest are all 9.9 and electric only.
I am being honest with you guys I am not sure and really torn on it. I love the salt but hard to get to, plus for me to launch and retrieve often by myself it is tough.
I used to go out with my tin boat and fish a few times a week and I could launch and everything by myself even after a long day and with one hand tied behind my back.
I got to make a decision in the next couple of days and I still can't decide :-/

[randlemanboater]

Uh oh, the fumes got to ya!

Nevermind what I said about cops can't afford new boats.

Willy, that Suzuki 150 is a close relative to my Johnson 140. You will love it. Quiet, smooth, economical, plenty of power.

Go for it man, you only live once, at least in the flesh.

[randlemanboater]

You were postin while I was. Hard to beat that deal on the G-3.

I bet some of these other guys will take you saltwater when you wanna go. Or do like I do and get on a headboat now and again. $60 bucks for a day offshore and someone else cleans the boat when you get back.

[willy]

I'm not a big head boat fan, but I am fortunate that two best friends of mine, one in south Jersey on Barnegat Bay has a 25ft Grady and the other is my neighbor who just sold his shore house for big bucks is looking to buy a 80 - 100 G's boat that he is going to keep in Raritan Bay and I will be able to fish either.
Down side is they are not my boats so if I want to take my kids out or invite friends and go to the salt it ain't happening.
The Pioneer CC would be OK for the fresh with my kicker mounted on it but again a lot more work and effort, I will not be able to use it in some places cause of rocky and shallow waters not really suitable to FGlass boats.
Torn I tell you Torn

[phatdaddy]

Buy the G3 and keep your wellcraft. Best of both worlds and you don't take the depreciation hit. If it dosen't work out you have two boats to trade or sell and put toward your new one.

[willy]

I was thinking about doing both, but it is a lot of work and money plus I don't really have enough room between the pull behind camper, the V20 and another boat, the dog kennels etc etc etc as my CEO says.

[Blue_Runner]

Does the 31 g's inclue the T-Top? One of the two buds of mine got the removeable top.

Willy, I'm gonna tell ya what I think...

Let me start with a question - what does the pioneer have that Old School doesn't? They're about the same size right? So the pioneer has a newer, quieter, more powerful motor....but I've never heard you complain about the speed of Old School and I know its not the fastest on here. The pioneer also has a lot bigger of a price tag.

I understand the draw - sweeeeeeeet rig - but I can't stop thinking about the whole reason you wanted to sell your V20 either (too hard to handle by yourself).

Knowing what I know about your situation (which is only a partial picture) I don't think it makes sense to sell your boat only to replace it with one basically of the same size.

Take it or leave it - my advice is to by the G3 and invest the remaining $22,000 in some land or something that will appreciate. A boat is not a good thing to "sink" a lot of money into IMO.

But as you guys know I'm a cheap bastad. ;D

Either way, I have spoken my piece and I will support brother Willy in whatever decision he makes. ;) 8)

[randlemanboater]

I think that is the obvious choice, buy the G-3 and keep the V. But with the $22K you save, buy the CEO a diamond with half, expand the driveway with the other.

[chumbucket]

I'm with Blue 100% on this one. Get the G3. They are very nice boats and will easily handle any bay fishing excursion you want to make. I'd hate to see you invest in that new boat only to find out your neck/back can't handle it after all. Then you have to sell and take a big loss in depreciation.

[willy]

Thats how I'm leaning Blue. Appreciate the advise.
Don't think I can keep both though.

[Blue_Runner]

I have an idea - give me the $22 k and you can have our spare bedroom. You can use my V any time you want. Just stay away from my supermodels in training 8)

Let me ask you something else Willy - when you go to the salt, what do you do? Ride, fish, ocean, back waters? If you fish alot of creeks and inlets already, that G3 will do that no problem. On flat days I've seen 14ft tiller steer john boats 4 or 5 miles out in the ocean out of Murrells Inlet SC. So on relative calm days you can still keep your ocean fishing.

Just thinkin out loud.

Ultimately this is your decision - and I'm behind you! Just watch out and don't let MJ get "behind" you or you are in trouble!

Blue

[willy]

Thanks Chum and Blue, leaning that way. And I know about that Wind Talker already ;D
That G3 is a tough sucker, I'm looking at the Outfitter V170C.
No wood, double hull welded and rivited. Diamond plate flooring and its mossy oak painted in and out if I want to do a little duck hunting with it.
http://www.g3boats.com/OutfitterVSeries/OutfitterV170CCamo/

[Airslot]

Git the G-3. Once spring rolls around and you maake a few trips, your heart will tell ya what to do next. By all means, a man should have a boat that he'll use.

Airslot

[Blue_Runner]

Nice boat Willy. I bet she can go pretty darn shallow too ;)

[willy]

Yea Blue, inches. I was also surprised at the weight, over 1900 lbs boat and motor. It's no light weight thats for sure.

[randlemanboater]

Nice boat for sure. I used to have a basstracker that was similar and I loved it. With the right trailer it will be very easy to get in and out of the water.

Good luck Willy!!!