SKRU THE MEXICANS!!

[reelapeelin]

Reportedly due to the current "unrest" between USA and Mexico, Miss USA was BOOED on stage last night in Mexico...find 'em all and send 'em all back and lock the door behind 'em ... if lettuce goes up, it'll go up >:( ...

[msbhammer]

Heard the same thing REEL, didnt read the whole story though.
I say build a Great Wall like China did and send them all back >:(

[Kajun]

mexicans hate amercians...every one of them that now carry american flags in protesting wish they were carrying their mexican flag like they did before they found it that wasn't getting them anywhere and causing a backlash.....they look at us like suckers......the ones that come here now to work hard is not the problem..its their kids that will grow up here thinking america OWES them something while turning our neighborhoods into ghettos like east los angeles,rise of the mexican gangs across the US....its definetly the end of the US as we know it.

[TunaHead]

Everything you guy's are saying is true but I have a little different perspective. I believe life in America now would be better if the government had MUCH tighter controls of the borders. (Heck I can grow my own lettuce.) But remember that America has always had imigrants who were ruining the country. During the 1845 potato famine it was the Irish who were generally hated.

[willy]

Little different though, our country had an immigration policy and needed people and let in many different nationalities. What we have now is people by the millions stealing into our country like thieves in the night and being rewarded. Pregnant women coming across deserts and in the back of produce trucks etc. so that they can show up at an emergency room for delivery. Voila an American citizen.
We are such fools I am ashamed :'(

[charlie_the_tuna]

kind of along these lines, it seems as though social security is in trouble but welfare is going strong.
alot of these immigrants cross our borders with their paperwork already filled out.

[TunaHead]

I agree with ya on the rewarded part, I hate that. Just can't hate people just for looking for a better life. The booing Miss America part just shows that no country has yet cornered the market on stupidity.

As far as the illegal alien problem is concerned there are two possible solutions that I can see. Either 1) get a grip on the borders or 2) let America devolve into a 3rd world country. Seriously, when there is no benefit to coming here nobody will. I think that process started when NAFTA was signed and American companies kept their offices here but began closing up manufacturing plants and sent the jobs elsewhere.

Last thought on the Irish (and I'm 50% Irish). Many people don't realize that a large percentage of the Irish population in America arrived illegally through Canada. (Quote is from
http://library.thinkquest.org/20619/Irish.html)


"The Act of Union of 1803 incorporated the island (Ireland) into British polity, but was useless in easing the difficult situation of the people. With an overly large population as the result of the Napoleanic Wars, the Irish soon became impoverished. And with the religious prejudice of Protestant Masters to the Catholic Irish, plus political subordination, many had no alternative by to emigrate to the United States for relief. Between 1820 and 1860, the Irish were never less than a third of all immigrants. The British Passenger Acts attempted to deflect the immigration from the British Isles to Canada instead of the U.S., making the fare a cheap 15 shilling compared to the 4 or 5 pound fare to New York. Many Irish soon found it convenient to take the affordable trip to Canada, where they could buy cheap fares to the U.S., or cheaper yet, they could walk across the border."

[TunaHead]

Charlie The T, don't open that can-o-worms with me. *Welfare, disability abuse and "Medical marijuana" just get me hoppin' mad. *Not a pretty sight.

I'm a moderate conservative living in an extrordinarily liberal portion of a notoriously liberal state. *Lots of pent up rage... that kind of thing. :P

Example: One of the local city councils is dominated by the Green party.

[parishht]

I saw the news clip of the boos,
the pagent was in Mexico and the boos came from Mexicans and Venezuelans supporting Hugo Chavez.

I just think that is a dispicable act of ignorant people.
They were booing because of Bush'e policies and imigration.
Like booing will make a point.
It will, it will piss off our lawmakers and hopefully
the wall will be built.

[dragn3]

im with kajun on this one............ I HATE EM!!! >:( >:( >:(

[sfprovyn]

Its laughable to say the least. The most powerful and influental country in the world has both political parties shamlessly sucking up to a bunch of low lifes that will contribute nothing to this country other than more crime and babies and they will always hate us. Its common knowledge all over the world that if you are on the run even with lots of money for pay offs and the USA puts your name at the top of the shi# list you are history and no one can or will save you. Even countries that consistently run their mouth about our policies , death penalty, vietnam ,Iraq war etc will give you up in a heart beat rather than incur the rath of the USG. This same country however is now going to import the kinds of people we go all over the world trying to extradite back to the USA for prision terms only now we are going to give them citizen status when There are millions of Philippinos,chinese, Russians, Latin americans, Poles ,Greeks, Turks and other nationalities that have job skills, can speak english and want to be part of our culture and society that will never get the opportunity because they are doing it the legal way by waiting their turn in line. Thanks to our elected officials and certain church groups and assorted do gooders we now have a huge mess that will only get worse as my super hero Ted Kennedy and company are already starting to draft legislation which will give them hand outs and eligibility for government give away programs. What crap , real americans work all their life for benefits that these people will get for doing absolutely nothing and they will still hate us, refuse to speak english and will never get with the program. I am not a racist and my rant is not meant to be a racial statement but clearly there will be a large mumber of baby smugglers and drug cartel cell leaders that will set up shop in the good old USA as well as killers , kidnappers, money launders, half assed terrorists ,on the run mexican banditos like the tuppamarios and Los Zitas that will probably move next door to me....Frank

[axespino]

There are good and bad in all races I know white trash, black trash, brown trash, and yellow trash. No matter what race there is it seems whatever one you are the others are worse. I don't support coming here illegaly but if you don't know the living conditions alot them have to live in you should not talk. It is not so easy to get permission from the mexican governmet to come to the USA to visit. It is very expensive and they will not give them a visa to come over here. Most of the people I know from Mexico are here legally and are working. I see all walks of life getting wellfare and wasting our tax dollars.

[charlie_the_tuna]

stand back, liberal coming through.

[reelapeelin]

Axe has a point...there's TRASH in every race, nationality and religion ... I don't disagree, but the FLOOD has made it impossible to deal with only pickin' out the bad ones ... I liked some of Willy's ideas ... I'm sorry about their living conditions, but at this rate, our children will be there too and we've come too far to back-slide now...

But here's the BIG PROBLEM:Big Money is running the policies of this country, not the wishes of the American people ... immigration and all our other woes are only symptoms ... our greedy politicians who stuff their coffers at the expense of our freedom are the real problem ... we need to shed the blinders of partisan politics and get back control (even INPUT would be a good step) but as long as voters follow party lines, they've got us right where they want us ... vote out the incumbent every time and we'll get some control back...career politicians, packin' their pockets from big money and special interests are a worse threat to the American way of life than all the terrorists and immigrants on the planet ...the "Grand Experiment" is on the leading edge of failing ...

[willy]

Axe, no one I know of here has even remotely suggested that there is not good and bad in every race, I know probably better than most spending 33 years in law enforcement. I have traveled a decent portion of the world and I can honestly say that I have never met a group of people or a different culture that I don't like, I love people always have and feel comfortable every where I have traveled and in the company of just about everyone I have met.
Now with that said I will say this, there are very good people from hundreds of country's that have been trying for close to a decade to immigrate into this country and going through the process so they can leaglly become part of our great nation. Many of them under the threat of death daily and on the run, many much poorer than the poor in Mexico.
So in response to your remark I would say that just because we have a nation that borders us with a long stretch to patrol does not give rise to the thought that this nation should take on 12-20 MILLION of these people because they feel right up front that our laws are literally made to be broken. They do it every day. I have seen it personally, I have had to deal with the tradgedies that have unfolded because of them. Yes the majority are decent hard working and religious people. But they are not here LEGALLY, they snuck in and refuse to leave.
We cannot as a nation survive in any recognizable form if we allow this kind of mass exodus to continue to occurr. It will crush our social services, our infrastructure and politically change our nation in the coming years.
Why in God's name would you want to do something that would alter our nation so dramatically and how can anyone with two brain cells running around in their head expect a nation to allow its borders to be so open and laws so blatantly unenforced as to literally change or alter its very existence.
If you think that is hyperbole ask the people of southern california, they will show you how land scape can change real quick, and what it costs to give up whole sections of the country to a population explosion of people who do not want to assimilate into your culture.

[reelapeelin]

And consider this; there is a widespread belief in Mexico that most of the SW that borders Mexico doesn't even BELONG to the United States; that we acquired it wrongly and it should be returned to Mexico :o ... build the wall ... now ...

[parishht]

I heard this term on PBS a few years ago, during a show
on the English language.

Reconquista

The narrator was in the Mexican congress and heard a speaker say,
the reconquista of the U.S. has begun.

I found that very interesting and did some research,
here is a link to Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reconquista_(Mexico)

When you click on the link, it will take you to the wrong page.
When you get to the Wikipedia page,
add (Mexico) to the address and it will take you to the correct page

or

copy and paste the link into the address area

[reelapeelin]

Close, but the term I heard wasn't reconquista, but I'm sure it stems from this...every generation pays for the sins of their forefathers ... it seems the bills are stackin' up ...

[axespino]

I am not saying that we should let everyone come in illegally. Everybody should come in legally. No I am not a liberal and I am not a racist either and by saying Skru the mexicans you are referring to all mexicans and that is not right. I do believe that our borders need to be tighter and stricter on anyone coming in.

[willy]

For other senses of this word, see Reconquista (disambiguation).
U.S. Mexican and Central American population, according to data from the 2000 Census (current Census data is unavailable until 2010)
U.S. Mexican and Central American population, according to data from the 2000 Census (current Census data is unavailable until 2010)

Reconquista was coined as a facetious term, popularized by Mexican writers Carlos Fuentes and Elena Poniatowska, to describe the demographic and cultural reemergence of Mexicans in the Southwestern United States.

The term is employed almost exclusively by pro-immigration enforcement groups to describe what they perceive as a concerted attempt by Mexicans and Mexican-Americans to wrest away control of United States territory. The premise of this reconquest is an historical claim to the land prior to the presence of European-Americans. The term does not make a claim for Spaniard-Europeans, but rather, for Mexicans, the majority of whom are mixed-blood and full-blood indigenous-blooded people.
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* 1 Historical usage
* 2 Modern usage
* 3 See also
* 4 External links
* 5 References

[edit] Historical usage

It was originally a jocular analogy to the Spanish Reconquista of Moorish Iberia, since the areas of greatest Mexican immigration and cultural diffusion are conterminous with northern New Spain and former Mexican territories.

Since then, the term has been adopted by immigration reform groups to characterize the irredentism of certain Mexicans and Mexican-Americans. [1]

The concept has also been advanced by Chicano nationalists of the 1970's to describe plans for the restoration of the vaguely-defined Aztec homeland called Aztlán. These groups do not generally use the word "reconquista". The word does not properly apply to immigration outside territories lost by Mexico in the Mexican-American War following the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo.[2]

[edit] Modern usage
North America, or Anahuac {ah-NAW-wahk}, the future "Indigenous" nation as described by the Mexica Movement.
North America, or Anahuac {ah-NAW-wahk}, the future "Indigenous" nation as described by the Mexica Movement.

In more recent times, the notion of Indigenous liberation has become popularized by the Mexica Movement, which the Minuteman Project credits as being central to the modern reconquista ideology [1]. Whereas previous groups have advanced the notion of reclaiming only the U.S. Southwest, the Mexica Movement goes further by demanding that the entire North American continent be reclaimed by Mexicans, Central Americans, Native Americans, and Canadian First Nations.[2]

This non-violent Indigenous liberation of the continent would remove all colonial borders and weld North and Central America into a single super-state called Anahuac. This continental notion far exceeds the Aztlan demands of previous generations.

The Mexica Movement regards the Aztlan concept as error-filled and inadequate. The group seeks to remove all borders imposed since 1492, replacing them instead with continental borders, from Canada to Costa Rica. The organization regards Spanish-imposed borders as "colonial", and hence, irrelevant.

The organization regards this "liberation" as a long-term project, involving several generations. The group supports the preservation of the United States Constitution as a transitional legal framework to accomplish their liberation through democratic (and demographic) processes.

This process will require a majority-status population of Mexicans and Central Americans, which the U.S. Census Bureau projects will become a reality sometime around the end of this century. [3] It is for this reason that the Mexica Movement encourages Mexican and Central American population expansion, both by migration and through high fertility rates.

The organization also demands the "reverse immigration" of European-descent people "back to Europe."[4]

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[willy]

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[willy]

If you are an American and can't see what already is happening by the map alone you need glasses.
With the passing of this bill in the senate now we will jump the legal population between 12-20 million people. That is also being the official party line on the numbers which I believe to be optimistic at best, not even close at worst.
That is why this bill has to be stopped and our borders enforced and services stopped so that the reason to stay is limited.
If you want to get together with the Mexican Govt. and start a legal and checked temp work visa that is strictly enforced then it should satisfy big buisness, the democratic party and all the socialist's we have in this country.
If it does not then I suggest to you that humanitary assistance, economic development etc is not the reason for it's passage. There would have to be another motive, demise of the two party system, change of the majority etc.
Facts are hard to stare in the face sometimes but we need to contact our representitives and stop this now.

[reelapeelin]

I am not saying that we should let everyone come in illegally. Everybody should come in legally. No I am not a liberal and I am not a racist either and by saying Skru the mexicans you are referring to all mexicans and that is not right. I do believe that our borders need to be tighter and stricter on anyone coming in.




OK then...Skru all the Mexicans who want to skru us...and that seems to be a growing number ... when they booed Miss USA, it pi$$ed me off >:( ...

[twistedparot]

i call it the pussification of america. it has been going on for a while. blame the media, the politicians, big industry, and, oh yeah, ourselves! we are the kind of people that complain about global warming and the state of the enviorment, then cry rivers when they put ethenol in our gas cause we have to change our fuel filters in our boats!

RIGHT NOW they are building a giant super highway from canada to mexico. at the cost of hundreds of billions of U.S. tax dollars. this highway will be the soverent soil of mexico! it will be patroled by mexican athaurities! how you gonna like it when you get pulled over in tennesse and harrassed by an american hating mexican cop. you gonna go home and complain about it in a forum? or are you gonna grow a set and shoot the bastard in the head?

a few weeks ago in houston, where many american flags were burnt by mexicans with no consequence, an american citizen was arrested for burning a mexican flag in protest!

our problem is that as americans we have been brainwashed with political correctness to feel guilty for every one and every thing. every body seems to be living every day like its thier last... LOTS OF SNIVELLING< WINING< AND CRYING! but nobody doing a dam thing for the ... its a dead horse. i would say to stand up and fight for whats ours instead of complaining that no one is doing it for you but, honestly, it too late. and it might offend some one.

b4 y'all call me a hipocrite y'all should know that i just beat the tar outta a mexican the other day. since they started burning our flag, i, and some others, beet the hell outta everyone we see flying that mexican flag here. i have nothing against imigration... just ILLIGAL immigrants. maybe that stems from being a contractor in a town that is rebuilding from katrina and having to struggle to feed my family cause i cant compete against 4 dollar an hour labor. or maybe one of a hundred more reasons that y'all hear everyday.

the moral here is clear. we will quit our dam cryin and do somethin about it... or we will lose our country cause we are a bunch of snivelling pussies.

[dragn3]

well then, screw all of the illegal mexicans!!!! * i'm not rascist, i just never met a"trashy illegal" that i liked. all you need to do is come on down to my town and go to the local wal-mart with your wife and kids and see how long it takes you to dis-like the illegal trash (especially if you have a daughter) and see how long it takes for your wife or daughter to be stared at, followed around, spoken to in a foreign laungage that they can't unterstand and just flat out dis-respected. i could go on and on about this subject but for those of you that know, know what i am talking about. sure there's trash in every race; any level headed person knows that but what i am talking about is people that are here illegaly to make money and send it back to their families in another country and while they are at it they will rape, steal, rob and murder there way back home. sure there are some good ones. i know some personally that will tell you the exact same thing. all in all, it's a scary situation for our families and for this great nation.

[twistedparot]

where you live at ,son? and whose the mayor there, richard simons? us rednecks must truly be assbackwards. cause i tell ya, I would never let anyone treat your wife or daughter that way in my presence. and i know if that happened to my family here, some good ole boy would make right, in a hurry.

damn, take some karate or somethin...

whats the frequency kenneth?

[twistedparot]

Welfare, disability abuse and "Medical marijuana" just get me hoppin' mad.


just for the record TH, you must be doing it wrong. marijuana calms me down. makes me kinda sleepy.

[dragn3]

don't worry yourself SON. i take care of mine i can assure you. just giving you an example of how dis-respectful the "illegal" folk can and will be. "BEEN IN A SCRAP OR TWO."

[Kajun]

skru all illegal mexicans and the rest of them that want to jump our borders and steal from our govt...i'm not talking about the mexicans that are here LEGALLY...or AMERICANS of mexican decent.

i'm a big bush fan but him supporting this is really getting my goat......i'll be voting for the candidate that will oppose ANY amnesty program and kick them illegal mexicans back across the border....what people dont realize is this is a bigger and more dangerous issue than terroism or iraq.....if we allow them to pour into our country without stopping them , we are done..cooked..stick a fork in the USA.

[sfprovyn]

The great thing about this country is that everyone can say what they want when they want and there is a toilet seat to fit every *** and the middle class is paying dearly for it big time . The mexican border is a powder keg about to go off and they are not all a bunch of economically depressed god fearing USA lovers..they are killers, kidnappers, and big time drug traffickers who would love to set up cells in the good old USA.The Los Zitas are former federalies trained by the USA who are now working protection for the drug cartels and targeting US law enforcement and kidnapping us citizens for ranson, then there are the tuppamarios who always kill their victoms even mexican children but devout church goers like my superhero Ted Kennedy....OF course there are 16 year old girls with babies and old ladies supporting 5 or 6 deadbeat males who are drunk all day too lazy to work other than nocking up 15 year old girls but I somehow dont feel responsible for that. I for one am sick of this left wing bullsh## . To make matters worse they wont speak english so how serious are they about becoming productive citizens of an english speaking society that all other minorities proudly managed to do without any special programs. My son is a teacher and the big push is spanish speaking teachers etc. Why not arabic, thai,polish or russian speaking teachers..Why only spanish? The answer is that they do not consider themselves americans, they are not interested in school or getting with the program other than the benefits, they have an alarming drop out rate, the parents do not show up on parent teacher night and the kids drag down the rest of the class , have major disiplinary problems and are at the bottom. English is a second language was coined only for one ethnic group , Why is that? I cant wait to see what immigration bills awaits the middle class on next years congressional agenda..Frank