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Monkey Butler
06-13-2007, 01:40 AM
Dragged her to a ramp at a local lake....

http://www.monkeybutler.com/boat/8x6/a1s.jpg

but decided it was a little too late...

The real point of the excercise was to road test the new running gear on the trailer....

http://www.monkeybutler.com/boat/8x6/b2s.jpg

http://www.monkeybutler.com/boat/8x6/b2as.jpg

All new disc brakes, lines, hubs, bearings, springs, hardware, tires, fenders, etc....

Here's some spare parts...

http://www.monkeybutler.com/boat/8x6/b1s.jpg

As you can see from the photos I'm going to try using the Kodial oil lubricated hubs. Has anyone else on this forum used them? Good, Bad,???

Steve P.

macojoe
06-13-2007, 01:58 AM
Great job!! But most have breaks on one axle, was that not good enough?

i have never used them hubs, always Berin Buddys till I got the new trailer, now it has a super lube system, were you pump grease in the front and the old comes out the back.

spareparts
06-13-2007, 09:55 AM
i haven't used oil hubs much, but the times I've worked on them(salt water use trailers) I've found the if the trailer sits for long periods( 6 months or more), then the seals usually don't seal good and the lube runs out, If the trailer is used on a regular basis, then it keeps the seal surface fresh and clean and the hubs work real good. Remeber also that dunking hot hubs into cold water supposably will pull water in past the seals, i don't know if its true or not, but I've heard it alot. Worse come to worse, just pack grease into the hubs intead of lube, just change out the caps to sure lube type

willy
06-13-2007, 11:55 AM
Good job Tally, looks like it's coming together, when is the sea trial

reelapeelin
06-13-2007, 12:08 PM
Great job on the new brakes and suspension...I need to do the same ... several years back, I put discs on all 4 wheels also...I figure if yer gonna do it, do it ALL THE WAY ;) ... and even more important on a bigger load like yer 250...

I've not used the oil-lube hubs, but also hear important to maintain seals ;) ...


How'd the road-test go?...

Monkey Butler
06-13-2007, 01:01 PM
mj,

If I put brakes on only one axle then which axle should I put them on? I've seen that topic beaten to death elsewhere.

Honestly, while I felt the Suburban should pull the rig I was a little concered about pushing the limits. After the test drive up and down Dead Horse Hill and out on I-290 I'm relieved, especialy with the braking performance. It feels like a much smaller boat back there.

spare and reel,

I'll be keeping an eye on 'em. I'll carry extra oil as well as grease and on longer trips a spare hub and bearigs. Their design should make it easier to spot a problem earlier than with grease.

Willy,

I'm taking Friday off for the sea trial. Will do a local lake just to check out the motor and mechanical stuff. If everything is good to go or if it's only minor things to fix then I'd like to get in the salt Sat. or Sunday,Whooooooo-Hoooooooo!

Dont let me forget the....

http://www.monkeybutler.com/boat/Mans2ndBestFriend.jpg

Stinky_Hooker
06-13-2007, 01:19 PM
Nice job you done on the trailer's "drivetrain". We look forward to seeing how it goes. 8)

macojoe
06-13-2007, 01:21 PM
I pull a 30'amper and it has eletric brakes on all four, and it stops the truck!
Nothing like knowing you going to stop when you have to!!
It was just I heard that most do the front only, so I tought I would ask.

msbhammer
06-13-2007, 06:31 PM
Great Pics. Tally, but I still love that Monkey. ;D

Shawsee
06-14-2007, 09:39 AM
Tally, Nice job!

I am planning on adding disc brakes to my single axle trailer this winter. Where did you get your set-up and roughly how much $ per axle? I will need the whole set-up from the coupler back. Also I see you are from Worcestor County, I grew up in Southbridge but now live in Woodstock Ct just over the line. Maybe we could hook up sometime and do a fishing trip and have some fun.

Monkey Butler
06-14-2007, 03:49 PM
mj,
Some say the front and some say the rear. I'd go with the rear and here is why. If you look at how the springs are hung you can see that if the front axle only had brakes then when they are applied it's going to transfer the force thru the equalizer and tend to unload the front wheels and put more pressure on the rear. I read that you may even experience wheel hop on the front axle. On the other hand rear brakes will tend twist the equalizer down in the back and thru the pivot lift the front spring and unload the front wheel causing the rear to bear more weight and thus greater traction. But I guess it's all moot since I did all four corners anyway.

Shawsee,
I went with SS calipers and S-Cad discs/hubs, TieDown 6600 actuator and soleniod reverse lockout. Figure around $260 for the brakes, $130 for the actuator, $50 for the solenoid and $80 for lines.

I got them New England Marine Industries. They are on Rt. 12 in Oxford Mass. They have a website:
http://www.trailerpartsdepot.com
They have a funky pricing policy that I think is to prevent them from competing directly with their local dealers. If you are in New England then you don't get a discount but if you register on their site with an address outside N.E. you will then get 25% off most items. You can still pick up at the store. I was back there a few times for some oddball hardware for my Load Rite trailer that I couldn't find anywhere online and honestly I didn't mind paying their asking price because of the convenience.

We is practically next door neighboors! I'm in Rochdale (Leicester). I have a niece in Woodstock and funny but you're the second guy in a week from Woodstock CT that I've met online that's looking to go fishing. Sounds good to me! Once I get my rig checked out let's try to put something together. Maybe even a N.E. raft up?

Steve P.

charlie_the_tuna
06-14-2007, 04:08 PM
i think nascar uses the same brake system.

macojoe
06-14-2007, 06:00 PM
I don't have springs, I have torsion springs ;) But i understand.
I am sure for every person that says rear there are at least that many say front!!

Thats ok I have non and thats the way I like it!!

lumberslinger178
06-14-2007, 06:30 PM
thats some sweet work there tally :D

Shawsee
06-14-2007, 11:06 PM
Tally,

I figured you lived in Rochdale/Leicester when you mentioned "Deadhorse Hill", I use to travel that road every day to go into Worcestor to work, quite scary in the dead of winter with a foot of snow on the road trying to make that hill. LOL

Thanks for the trailer info and I know exactly where they are located in Oxford. Also a N.E. raft up sounds great to me! Keep me posted and let's have some fun.

Thanks again