Auxillary Motors

[willy]

Any of you guys with brackets running an small second motor, I want to mount my 9.9 Suzuki on Old School and not sure of the best way to do it. Dont want to mount second set of controls but would like to use main engine to steer but it sits a long way back on a bracket ???

[Mac_Attack]

I use a 9.8 Merc works good using main motors steering, no control arm between motors. Only in higher winds is it hard to make some turns. Yours being on a bracket may steer even better. Bill Mc ;D

http://www.wellcraftv20.com/gallery/view_photo.php?set_albumName=Mac-Attack-on-the-water&id=Aug_1_04_006

[willy]

So Mac you are using the main as a rudder type thing right, not using a steering arm between the two. Anyone with a bracket out there that has connected them ?

[willy]

And Mac or any one else what bracket did you use for the mount of the auxilliary motor. I see three or four diierent ones but don't know the why one would be better than another

[fishmaster63]

willy, just got rid of my 22 sea ray. had a 225 on a bracket. had a 15 on one of those little up and down brackets. would just set the kicker straight back and use the big motor to steer like a rudder set up. worked fine.

[willy]

Sounds perfect to me, less work, I didn't think it would manuever well like that but I guess it does, good ;D

[willy]

If you are going to do that is it just as well getting one of the fixed motor bracket where you just tip it up and down or is the lowering kind the best ?

[macojoe]

If It was I, I think I would get the lifting one to get it up out the way??

Iwant one butnI have a full swim platform on my boat. so there is no were to pou one. >:(

All I have is a 3 inch lip all around the bracket?? As you can seen here.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/macojoe/738e572d.jpg

[willy]

MJ, just looking at your platfrom I'm assuming the platform is hollow and sealed for flotation like my single armstrong without swim platform. is it hollow all the way out to the sides as well. If it is hollow or solid plate you should be able to bolt a flat to the swim platform metal plate that is welded to a angled T off the edge and have a perfect mount for a small motor. I don't know how strong it is on the sides but if it will support swimmers it should support a 60-80lb motor no problem

[macojoe]

The center is hollow for flotation and the 3" lip all the way around is just 1/2 aluminum, I was thinking about mounting something there?
Maybe some day?? Ity is very strong!! I am 300# and so is my son, and we have both been on that thing at the same time!! :o

[willy]

D@mn ! grow em big up there do ya ;D Is that what CB meant when he said on the other post about weight on the stern for my bracket , you and he have plenty of weight back there. I thought he was talking about your motors LOL.
All kidding aside I think rigging up a late to mount on that would be a snap if you know someone who could weld aluminum. If you do do it make a gasket out of plastic or something similar to prevent galvanization

[willy]

thats supposed to be plate not late

[macojoe]

when you write a post and something isn't typed right and you want to fix it,
Just go to the top right corner of that post and hit MODIFY,
That will bring you to your post, you can add or fix what ever you want then hit save at the bottom.
Your post will come back all fixed!!

Of coarse if you like making another post the way you do now thats fine also.
Just thought I would let you know incase you didn't?

As for the bracket, I will look into it some time?? Cause that 175 just does not like to troll under 5mph and the fish are from 2 to 3 mph around here.
I am always clunking in and out of gear trying to maintain a good speed.

There has been some talk here about trolling plates but I no I will be snaping them all the time forgetting to lift them back up!! :o
I know that they have the kind that will automatic go up when you take off, I just think I be better off with a kicker on the back.

[willy]

Thanks MJ I did not know that, and I agree you'll be better off with a 2nd motor. Plus it gives you peace of mind also and that is worth a lot. Some of the places here near inlets and points where you have standing waves and shallow sand bars are no place to be when a motor dies on you. That is reason #1 for me doing it, 2 is that I need a 9.9 for the fresh water lakes here. Because we are gay NJ. and can't be trusted with a loaded outboard >:(

[ericbh1]

MJ, if you're in this just for the speed loss, I feel like using a 5 gallon pail dragged behind would be a cheaper solution than the trolling flap. Guarantee you won't forget it after the first time you take off with it still deployed!

[macojoe]

you want to bet ericbt!! I have a sea anchor that I forgot 5 times in the same day!! :o

[Mac_Attack]

Willy I tightened the 9.8 down steering wise and just use the main motor like a rudder. I used a Garelick mount SS. You'll need the up and down motion. My skeg on the 9.8 still drags a little and you can't really tilt the motor forward. Here's aphoto of mine. Bill Mc ;D


http://www.wellcraftv20.com/gallery/view_photo.php?set_albumName=album50&id=memorial_w eekend_003

[Mac_Attack]

MJ on my Gruman 16' boat I used the plastic trolling plate from Cabelas. It worked fine and had a break away screw for the many times I forget to lift the darn thing. Bil Mc ;D

[macojoe]

well if i get one of them, you guys better buy stock in the break away screws!! cause i am gong to need a lot of them!!

[willy]

Thanks Mac, looks like a clean install. When you install a auxilliary motor do you measure the same as far as depth is concerned as the main motor or do you measure differently with it being on the side of the keel?

[reelapeelin]

I drag a 5 gal bucket off ea stern cleat trollin' lead-core...drops about 1 mph (gps) off forward speed...problem w/flaps as I remember from years ago is loss of steering response.... :P...maybe they've improved 'em...

[tlb888]

Mac, I am considering somthing similar to your kicker bracket. Does is tilt up and out of the way for running and where did you get it?

[willy]

bump

[Mac_Attack]

In the up position it will not tilt forward hits the transon. Seakindly and brian helped me greatly with the install. I'm looking for their earlier posts. Here's three photos that may help. Bill Mc ;D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v130/Machockey/P1010036.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v130/Machockey/memorialweekend006.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v130/Machockey/memorialweekend002.jpg

[tlb888]

Thanks that looks exactly like what I am looking for. I just hope having a bracket will keep it out of the water.

[Blue_Runner]

You'll need the up and down motion. My skeg on the 9.8 still drags a little and you can't really tilt the motor forward.

I second what Mac said. I have the same or similar mount that has the up and down motion and the skeg and prop still scrape the water when I take off. I can tilt my motor forward a bit though to alleviate the dragging a bit.

[chitbob1]

I got to put my 2 cents in if you put a spacer between the transom and the bracket you can tilt it forward enough so it don't drag mine has 2 *2by 6 blocks on it

[Blue_Runner]

Mine will tilt all the way, but with the x-tra long shaft the skeg still gets some water time.

[steelheader13]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v330/steelheader13/wellcraft4.jpg

pretty good trolling motor

[Blue_Runner]

That's a good way to make use of the transom notch! Nice! That's a perty 175 Johnnyrude you got there too!

[cliffpaul2]

In my experience using the main motor as a rudder with no connection to the kicker just works OK. *The response isn't as quick as it is when you have a connection. *I bought an EZ Steer to connect the two. *This way you get the still get the benifit of using the main motor as a rudder, but you also have the thrust from the kicker motor pushing you in the right direction. *You have to be sure to get the right size (follow the directions on their home page), but once it's installed, it allows perfect steering from the helm. *It also expands and contracts so you can tilt one or both of the motors without disconnecting. *Here's a link to Cabelas, where I got mine:

http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/links/link.jsp?id=0030613010974a&type=product&cmCat=sear ch_redir