V20 - Side Recessed Panels

[FishPA]

Great site! Finally uncovered my 1989 V20 boat from its winter hibernation. Started cleaning and making a list of TO DO items for this coming season. Does anyone know if the side rod holder recessed panels are sold anywhere. My panels have small cracks in the corners. Does anyone have any ideas for repairing these panels. ??? They seem to be made from plastic. I would prefer to $hit can them and buy or make new ones if anyone have any ideas.

[chumbucket]

I'm helping a buddy look for the same for his Steplift. So far I've come up empty. If you find anything, please post so we can check out also. These were one of the few weak points that I've heard people bad mouth Wellcraft on (using plastic instead of molding some out of fiberglass. Same with some of the console panels as well. Oh well, if that's their only complaint, the boats can't be that bad.

[bigshrimpin]

Funny you mentioned the recessed rod racks: I just sent wellcraft a message last week regarding these. Mine are cracked too in the corners (class action law suit . . . just kidding) here's the information they sent me.




Subject: RE: Wellcraft Inquiry - Parts or Service
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 12:34:55 -0500
From: "Eduardo Gonzalez" <[email protected]> ***124; This is Spam ***124; Add to Address Book
To: [email protected]




Mr. Barber

In response to your request please contact Coastal Marine @ (419)
732-2165 or a local dealer.
They can order and ship to you, please note that they will need to be
made and may take 4 weeks.
You can use 6880-4124 the cut out size for this rod pocket is aprox.
14.5" X 58.5" and the overall size of the rod pocket is aprox. 16.5" X
60.5" the color is Glacier grey.
Please verify dimensions prior to ordering as they may differ somewhat
from what is on your boat.

Part no Description
68804124 POCKET,ROD RACKS MLD'D-IN

We hope that this information is of help to you.

Thank you.

Eduardo Gonzalez
Wellcraft Marine
Parts department
(941) 753-7811 EXT:330

================================================== ===============================================

[chumbucket]

Thanks for that info. I'll pass it along to my buddy.

[FishPA]

Thanks for the info, will call.

[Seacrets]

I bought a great set of rod inserts from West marine and they came from SSI P.O. Box 99, Hollywood, Md 20630
301-373-2372. Installed them in my V20 (1985)Minimum amount of cutting and they looked great.
Bob Erdman

[Mac_Attack]

Seacrets What are they made out of and do you have apicture of them? If so please post. Bill Mc

[mawshj]

drill a small hole at the very end of the crack to prevent further damage ( relieve the stress) then you can remove the panel and apply some fiber glass tape with epoxey on the back side and the panel will be better than new

[Repirts]

Mine were in pretty bad shape. Flanges extensively cracked nad some pieces missing. Removed and on the backside reinforced or rebuilt missing chunks with fiberglass tape and resin. A little sanding and a coat of paint and you wouldn't know how bad they were.

[LESTERUS]

I HAVE THE VERY SAME PROBLEM ON MY 1979 V-20 STEPLIFT, MY ROD BOXES ARE IN VERY BAD SHAPE TO THE POINT THAT , IF I TAKE THEM OUT THE WILL DESINTEGRATE, SO I CAN NOT REENFORCE THEM OR EVEN LOOK AT THEM.

THE ARE NOT SQUARE, THEY HAVE 2 60 DEGREES ANGLES AND 2 120 DEGREES ANGLES.

ANY IDEAS?

[email protected]

[willy]

From what I remember reading the past couple of years everyone that replaced theirs, including my 85 V required the inner liner to be cut a little but worked fine and was a big improvement.

[reelapeelin]

I thought Flounder Pounder Marine had those in stock, but can't find FP link...

[Mac_Attack]

http://fpmarine.com/

Plastics section.

[phester]

the ones I saw at the FP marine looked good,inexpensive, the ones at the SSI in Maryland, looked nicer, but were more $$$$$

[Blue_Runner]

Mine are plastic and were cracked in the corners. The previous owner used 3m 5200 on the cracks and like someone else said 'you can't tell how bad it is'.

Its been over a year now and it could use some touch up. But hey, its a quick easy fix :-/

[Airslot]

I've has the ones from FP FOR A COUPLE YEARS WITH NO PROBLEMS.

Airslot

[LESTERUS]

I'VE FOUND A PLACE: STEINHATCHEEBOATWORKS.COM
I SENT THEM A DRAWING AND THEY SAY THEY CAN DUPLICATE THEM (EVEN WITH SOME PIECES MISSING)
FOR ABOUT $250.00 EA. IN ABOUT 2 WEEKS

I'M IN THE PROCESS OF TAKE THEM OUT AND SHIP TO THEM (I'M TRYING NOT TO BREATHE HARD SO I DONT BREAK THEM)

KEEP YOU POSTED

[Geekie1]

FishPA,

Check in the Gallery. V20 Wise Guy 82. He did a nice job repairing his rod boxes.

[Airslot]

Mine were 90 each I think from FPMarine.com. Pics are in my gallery as well. Plus the new ones have the nice little bungees to keep things in place. Sorry about my last post but I'm not used to typing ona laptop.

Airslot

[Blue_Runner]

FP boxes are nice. When mine finally kick I'll be lookin at FP. Mine are 2 rods a piece with a gaff holder in the middle. FP has 3 rod holders each (store gaff in rod holder)

You might have to cut a little but worth it every penny. ;) Can't go wrong there. Check eBay too. I've seen them go for $50 a piece from FP on eBay.

[LESTERUS]

MY BOXES ARE IN AN ANGLE (TRAPEZOIDAL) AND HAVE AN OVERALL CUT OUT OF 67" PLUS, LAST TIME I CHECKED WITH FP MARINE HE DIDN'T HAVE THAT BIG.
I'LL CHECK AGAIN

LESTERUS
MIAMI

[LESTERUS]

HOW DO YOU GET INTO THE GALLERIES?

LESTERUS

[Airslot]

go to wellcraftv20.com

thats the main page and you can go to galleries from there. I never figured how to get there from this page.

Airslot

[LESTERUS]

AIRSLOT:

THANKS FOR THE TIP, I SEE YOUR ROD BOXES ARE A LOT SMALLER THAN MINE, I NEED AT LEAST ONE 67" LONG.

ANYBODY KNOWS HOW TO GET DECALS, AT LEAST THE ONE THAT SAYS V-20?

MY BOAT LOOKS MORE LIKE A V-21.

I REPLACED ALL THE TEAK TRIMMING WITH STARBOAR. TEAK IS BEAUTIFULL BUT THE SUN IN FLORIDA IS BRUTAL.

[WiseGuy]

All there is to it:

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a132/WiseGuy_/Pict0112.jpg

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a132/WiseGuy_/Pict0113.jpg

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a132/WiseGuy_/Pict0126.jpg

[LESTERUS]

THANKS FOR YOUR REPLY, MINE ARE EXACTLY LIKE YOURS, HOWEVER I THINK THEY ARE BEYOND REPAIR SINCE THEY HAVE A LOT OF TRIMMING MISSING AND THE BOTTOM HAS BIG HOLES. THE SUN IN FLORIDA IS BRUTAL
PLUS MY KIDS EVERY TIME THE CLIMB ON THE BOAT USE THEM AS A STEP. GO FIGURE!!!!

IF I DONT FIND ONE ALREADY MADE BIGGER THAN 67" I'LL GO TO THESE PEOPLE AND HAVE THEM CUSTOM MADE.

CHEAPER THAT A NEW BOAT!!!!

[Geekie1]

Wiseguy, What resin did you use? Epoxy or Poly? Did you color the resin? What weight cloth? I have about 1/2 gallon of epoxy resin left from another boat project, so I will probably use it on my rod boxes. Epoxy resin has a really long shelf life, about 10 years if stored properly.

[WiseGuy]

The resin is epoxy (west marine 105 and 106 hardener). Don't know about the cloth. You may as well reinforce the corners and such while your in the mood and have your goop mixed up.

The good side was filled/leveled with marinetex, sanded, and painted with topside paint (interlux brightside - white)

[phester]

I repaired my boxes as well. They had the typical cracks and bastardized edges, they came out nice.Used the same paint as Wiseguy but I added a black pigment to get a light gray color to "sorta" match the gray deck.

[Skools Out]

mine are busted up too going to do the same. i have several corners missing so i'm just going to rebuild out of glass and shape back to original. Lester you could just glass your holes smaller to use FP's rod boxes. It would be much cheaper to glass the holes smaller and replace.

[phester]

I also ripped 1" thick pieces of pressure treated lumber, cut them to length, and installed them behind the gunnel walls. The screws go through the teak trim, through the flange of the rod box, through the gunnel wall and into the press. treated. What was formerly flimsey is now quite strong ;)

[LESTERUS]

I WAS LOOKING LAST NIGTH IN THE GALLERY, THERE IS A GUY (OR BOAT) NAMED "PIPE DREAM" THAT HIS ROD BOXES WERE A LOT WORSE THAN MINE AND IN THE FINISHED BOAT THEY LOOKED AWESOME. I DON'T KNOW WETHER HE REPLACED THEM OR REBUILT THEM.
IF HE READ THIS, COULD HE LET ME KNOW?

LESTERUS
[email protected]

[phester]

yeah the Pipedream is a REAL ;) nice boat

[willy]

And its safe to talk with him now that he got rid of that hypnotizing avitar. Before, if you were on meds like I was on whole afternoons would go by unexplained ;D

[Pipe_Dream]

feeling . . . dizzy . . . must . . . gain . . . control . . .


heh heh, thanks guys. ::)

Lesterus, check your messages.

Wiseguy, nice job.

[LESTERUS]

SORRY FOR NOT REPLYING,, I WAS OUT OF TOWN,THE PROBLEM IS MINES HAVE A LOT OF PIECES MISSING, SPECIALLY THE FLANGES AND , BESIDES THE FACT THAT I HAVE 2 LEFT HANDS, I HAVE 2 SMALL CHILDREN THAT TAKE A LOT OF MY TIME.

[LESTERUS]

HEY GUYS!!!!
KEN, FPMARINE.COM CALLED ME THAT HE FOUND SOME
THAT WERE 68" X 18 1/2"X 5" (3 3/4" AT THE BOTTOM)
FOR ABOUT $120.00 EA.

I KNOW THAT 68" WILL COVER THE WHOLE LENGTH, I'VE GOT TO CHECK THE WIDTH THOUG CONSIDERING ABOUT 1" FLANGE THAT WOULD LEAVE ME 16 1/2"
I THINK I CAN FIT THEM.

IF I ORDER MINES KEN SAID HE WOULD ORDER SOME MORE SETS. ANYBODY INTERESTED?

LESTERUS

[LESTERUS]

FOR ANYBODY INTERESTED IN THE SUBJECT, I JUST RECEIVED THE ROD BOXES FROM FP MARINE, THE CUT OUT DIMENSIONS ARE: 66 1/2" X 16 1/2" X 5"
THE FLANGE DIMENSIONS ARE: 67 1/2 X 18 1/2"

I HAVE NOT INSTALLED THEM YET, I'LL POST PICKS.

LESTERUS