New Dash

[fishbonejr]

howdy i want to redo my dashboard here is a picture of my dash it is not the most accurate because its about a year old and i have added a new vhf radio to the port con and an xmradio system to the port con the loran is gone. but what i want to do is incorperate all that stuff over to the starbored side and input the vhf radio and gps into the dash to make it look flush and replace the instraments (spelling?)and move them around to fit everything. Tell me what you think here is the picture i have ( i might take it out tomarrow and have a fresh picture) but until then here you go:

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n167/fishbonejr/DSCN0026.jpg

thanks Fishbonejr

[Skools Out]

looks great.

[macojoe]

Looks fine!! But if you want to start freash get a piece of 1/2 starboard and make a new dash, then install the way you want!!

I don't have a close up here at work but here you go, works nice!!

http://syncboard.com/albums/Boat-Tackle-Box/560_G.sized.jpg

[fishbonejr]

forgot i also got an am/fm radio in the cabin. Is it hard to move it since it has alot of wires attached to it. I want to move it with everything else so it is easy to control or should i get one of them little remote controls that go on the consol. thanks.

[msbhammer]

Fishboner, what year is your V ???, where did you get that built in glove box section. That looks great.

[msbhammer]

What the hell is M.J. posting post for. He's suposed to be out in the front yard taking pics for us and getting that motor running !! >:( >:( >:(
;D

[reelapeelin]

Fishbone...think about this...just above your wheel, the dash goes flat for several inches, then angles up (where all your gauges are now)...what if you take a piece of 1/2'' Starboard and cut to fit over the entire dash from top to just in front of the wheel...fill in sides w/ triangles of Starboard...then you got a big, single surface to flush- mount all you want...little gauges across bottom, FF and tach up top maybe w/ room for flush VHF...once ya get the new cut and fitted, cut away all existing dash for clearance behind new...leave just enough ''lip'' around outter edges to screw from underneath to catch new...just a thought... ;) ...

[Skools Out]

or if you want dark use 1/4 " lexan smoke colored

[reelapeelin]

Either way sounds good and it'll get ya lots more room... ;) 8) ...

...if ya wanna get ALL the room ya got, from 1/2'' Starboard cut a ''gusset'' that fits/ attaches just inside side windshield to support widening dash (as mentioned above) to go across open space now between dash and side-window...would add several inches width to whole thing... ;) ...

[chumbucket]

You can get black Starboard if that's your preference.

[macojoe]

What the hell is M.J. posting post for. He's suposed to be out in the front yard taking pics for us and getting that motor running !!


That post was at 4:40am!! I was working :P

[reelapeelin]

That post was at 4:40am!! I was working :P


Well ya shoulda called in drunk or somethin' and been workin' on that boat!!... ;D ;D ;D ...

[msbhammer]

Good one Reel. That was me two nights ago at Irish Eyes. To many white russians. :P

[fishbonejr]

hi yall i took her out today and got som better pictures so here you go. the boat is a 1989 v-20 steplift.

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n167/fishbonejr/100_0734-1.jpg

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n167/fishbonejr/100_0743.jpg

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n167/fishbonejr/100_0742-1.jpg

these are both my boats sittin together Fishbonesr (left) Fishbonejr (Right)

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n167/fishbonejr/100_0736.jpg

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n167/fishbonejr/100_0737.jpg

two cons with new equipment (the thing labled "The Switch" is my novelty horn(dixie) Yee Haw)

these are my cons now what i want to do with the port con is put a plastic cover on hinges and have it hold a chart. hope you like the pictures and i like all the ideas and tell me what you think i should do now.

[fishbonejr]

That post was at 4:40am!! I was working *:P

no it was not it was at 4:48 A.M (details matter)

[racerx]

possibilities abound!

http://www.livorsi.com/catalog/accessories_boots_brackets.htm

[Skools Out]

WOW Racer they have my dash top gauge holder I built,
but the price is scary at $139

http://www.livorsi.com/images/index/DWW1a.jpg

[Skools Out]

what's your larger boat?

[fishbonejr]

by larger boat (fishbonesr) is a 2004 aquasport 275 explorer.

[fishbonejr]

i thinking mor along the line of these types of instraments (spelling)

http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product/10001/-1/10001/92539/10001/85/84/6

i would also put a new sterring wheel on i like this one but it comes in two sizes 13.5 and 15.5 what size is good for me heres the link



http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/producte/10001/-1/10001/91931/0/0/sterring%20wheel/All_2/mode+matchallpartial/0/0

one other thing who should a talk to. who does this stuff. about doing this. one time i tried messing whith this stuff and i fried my electric system it was awful i dont want to repeat it but i am not sure who to talk to i.e. contractor elecronics expert ect but thanks .

thanks
fishbone

[fishbonejr]

would you think it is smart to put another blue double seat on the starboard side
and then move the chair that is already there to someplace by the stern and make it removable kinda like a fishing chair or captans chair just gettin your opinon because i would do that my self.

here is a makeshif diagram

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n167/fishbonejr/plan.jpg

[Skools Out]

better buy them fast. i just bought a pair of B&M Lounges from Boaters World for $199.00 a pair reg $179.99 each. It's a special this month only for club members.

[fishbonejr]

WOW thats a grat deal i will buy two then and make them the same. great i will probably go this week.

[Skools Out]

yeah not avail. online only at the store or by phone. They have wise same price the store i was at had the old style so the discounted even more due to old stock.

[fishbonejr]

what i decided i am going to do is use the same dashboard but star over.

i will need starbored where do i buy that?

i will have the gps and vhf mounted flush were the instrements used to be but have the tach put inbetween them and put the little ones on the 3" slot right above the sterring wheel( which i am replacing also) then have new seats put in and reuse the captains chair and make it a fighter chair since it is only three months old. i will convert the port con into a chart holder and probable replave the glove box door. this is my plan now tell me what you think and i will keep you guys pposted with the progress thanks *for all yer help.

[macojoe]

8 min off o well ;)

I am here back at work now!! :'(

I Hate back to back seats!! I pulled mine out and tossed as soon as I got the boat home!!

But I wanted fishing room! I have the drivers seat rigged so I remove the seat and post completely when I want. I like to drive standing then I move to were ever I want to fish.

But you must do more curzing then me needing double.

I like the big boat also!! you eaither very lucky to have 2 boats or have you have 2 headache??

[reelapeelin]

Fishbone...you gotta set it up to suit the way you use it...if mine (like MJ), I'd toss the double, put another Capt's chair on port side and have two folders to carry passengers when needed...

http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10001&langId=-1&catalogId=10001&classNum=10951&subdeptNum=37&sto reNum=18&productId=241437

where you've indicated repositioning the capt's chair...is that the fuel tank hatch?...if so, be SURE fasteners don't contact that tank ;) ...

[Skools Out]

Those Chairs are on sale as well at Boaters World this month for $99

[Seacrets]

Make sure you get the tall bases.

[Skools Out]

yeah i asked about that they said the tall bases were no longer avail. all are 10" now :-[, so i put mine on a frame up 2" fixed the height plus the vinyl doesn't get wet at the floor as much that way.

[TheTinMan]

How many people usually on your boat? I would do like RAP suggested, add another capt.'s chair to the port side, it will increase your cockpit size! Portables when you need more seating, but that's me........whatever floats YOUR boat ;)

[macojoe]

Capt chair is on xmas list!! See CB 's post for details ;)

[brianct12]

I gotta vote for at least 1 "back-to- back" in the boat. Without that, where ya gonna let the super-models lay down and get some sun !!!!! Thats part of boating too :)

[Blue_Runner]

I'm with MJ Tin and RAP. Lose the back to backs and go with cap. chairs on port and starboard. You got a bigger boat (= more seating) for cruising! Keep the V20 setup for fishing! JMO

By the way, I love the ladder back Todd chair you have at your helm - I wouldn't change a thing there - but if you decide to get rid of it, how about shipping it down here to NC ;D

Blue's .02

[fishbonejr]

i don't do much fishing when ever i go boating i usally have five to seven people onboard and when i fish i take the big one when ever i fish i can be gone for two or more days and there are more comforts of home on the big one ( tv A/C heat stove etc) thats why i have two. so i need more seats not fishing room. but what if a bought another todd chair for the port side would you reccommend that better thatn thw twin bact to back seats.
thanks.

[fishbonejr]

Fishbone...you gotta set it up to suit the way you use it...if mine (like MJ), I'd toss the double, put another Capt's chair on *port side and have two folders to carry passengers when needed...

http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10001&langId=-1&catalogId=10001&classNum=10951&subdeptNum=37&sto reNum=18&productId=241437

where you've indicated repositioning the capt's chair...is that the fuel tank hatch?...if so, be SURE fasteners don't contact that tank *;) ...



i have those on my big boat to i love them that might work because your right that is the fuel hatch and it is not even one inch of mounting room.

[reelapeelin]

I'd match that ladder-back on the port side and get a pair of folders...or just pull the ones ya got outta the big boat ;) ...

[TheTinMan]

I'd match that ladder-back on the port side and get a pair of folders.


That's the ticket.....and get a rear bench, like BR....seating for 7!

[racerx]

i have noticed that some of these guys have baitwell/storage boxes made from fiberglass that thier seats mount to. kinda like the v21 but, screwed in, not molded. i realy like that idea but, i have not been able to find anyplace that sells them.

[Blue_Runner]

Yea Tin, only problem is they are hard to come by.

In case you haven't seen it, here it is again. I picked it up for $50 from member TMcGovern (thanks buddy ;)).

Has a welded stainless steel frame - that was worth the $50 to me. I fashioned it so I could take it out if I want. Kinda cool cause you can sit it on the dock and have instant dock seating too! Then put back in the boat and motor away for a cruise!
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d73/stinkery/S2010017.jpg

[fishbonejr]

problem is i have an i/o but that would be cool.

[macojoe]

They do have seats that go on eaither side on the engin cover!!

Sorry about the pic's but they are from my camera phone, and of a boat for sale next to me that I posted.

http://syncboard.com/albums/album06/09_25_06_1106.jpg

http://syncboard.com/albums/album06/09_25_06_1107.jpg

[fishbonejr]

[quote author=macojoe link=board=Modifications;num=1160881700;start=30#4 1 date=10/17/06 at 21:38:55]They do have seats that go on eaither side on the engin cover!!


i have thoses but when there is two people up front and two people sitting in the stern chairs she WILL NOT GET ON PLANE. every body has to stand up front and i would like to make it more comfy for them so that why i need the double back seats. * until i get an engine with more power it terns out in sted of 225 i have a 125 horse power i/o they made a typo on the regerstration.

[macojoe]

When I got my boat It had a 165 mercuriser I/O which was close to 120 at the prop.

But with a 15 X 15 1/4 prop I use to get on plane with 8 people on board, it was slow getting there but it would do it.

What are you turning for a prop?? Thats why I have aways used that prop even after I switched to OB, and more HP.

[fishbonejr]

i loved my old engine but i had to replace it one day because it through a rod. i did't now that the measured at the engine and not the prop do they still do that or has that changed. so i dont know if that rating is at the engine or prop but i still will never get on plane the top speed i can get is maby 14 knots with me at the wheel and two people in the back. but even if i got the back to back seats do you still think that it would not get on plane with every body sittin up front. o and i stated the dash board i will post pics of the progress later this weekend.

[macojoe]

I/O HP is at the prop not the motor.

Old O/B was also at the prop, but todays O/B motors are HP at the motor.

I still think you should reprop? Will get better, but still going to have issues if your motor is that small, and that many people on board.

[fishbonejr]

ok i will look in to that issue with the prop thanks hro the hp info i will keep that in mind when motor shoppin.

[Seacrets]

MJ, I think you got her bassackwards. Todays O/B hp is at the prop.

[Skools Out]

MJ, I think you got her bassackwards. *Todays O/B hp is at the prop.


Good eye there, Yeah you're right Sea

[macojoe]

Thanks guys I am backwards should be the other way around!!

I had a ruff day yesterday and today not looking much better :(

[reelapeelin]

Fishbone...what prop you got??...even w/ only 120hp she oughtta get up on plane and stay there w/ several people on...have ya got a workin' tachometer and do ya know the MAX recommended RPMS from the mfgr?...sounds like your motor in bad need of tune-up or other repair OR boat needs re-propping OR both... ;)...are ya gettin' fire on all cylinders?...

[fishbonejr]

not sure what prop but the engine has only got anout 20 hours on it would i need a tune up or is somthing else wrong but about the cilinders my last engine it was a six cylinder and this one is a four cylinder and it is the second new engine i have tried. i only had to pay for one but the first one i had that was the problem it was only runnin on three cylinders but thisone has had a compression test and all four are firin. but what prop should i order. i do have a workin tach and get about 3800 rpm WOT i am not sure what the max reccommended rpm is. thanks

[reelapeelin]

Do some lookin' around to find out what Max RPMs you should be able to turn...it's KEY to makin' sure you got the right prop...


If motor change took you from 6 cyl to 4 cyl a prop change could most likely be in order...less torque, less hp?...need to know ;) :) ...

[fishbonejr]

ok i will do that

just out of curisoty what would you guys think if someone put nitrus oxcide on their engine i saw it in the boating magazene it was an old issue (july 2002) but what would that do to an i/0 ses it adds 100 hp and 10mpg.

p.s. i dont like this new engine and am probable going to replace it next season. the engine is ecanomical ( spelling *???) but not very powerful i like power and *do not really care about economy kind of like comparing a hybrid to a hemi *i would much rather have the hemi.

[macojoe]

on my 165 I/O I was getting 5000 rpm's!! You are way down!!
Some I/O get 4500 rpm but you have a way to go!! something wrong with motor??

You getting full throttle?? Or you need new prop??

[reelapeelin]

The N O won't do ya much good w/ out the right prop, there, Hot Rod... ;) ;D ;D ...

[fishbonejr]

The N O won't do ya much good w/ out the right prop, there, Hot Rod... ;) ;D ;D ...


what prop would you guys reccommend

[macojoe]

On my boat I use a 15 1/4 X 15 it has a lot of torque and works well for me.

Do you have a Hydrofoil on the motor?? That helps alot!!

Are you sure you are getting full throttle?? Make sure of that first.

My mariner alowed me to talk to them, then they recomended a prop, they let me try, if no good and still perfect they would swap for the next size till I got what I wanted. I used 3 props.

Over all a 14 1/2 X 17 worked, but I always felt like I was spinning my tires when getting out the hole.

Thats when we found the 15 and now out the he great!! little slower on the top end, I use o get 40- 43 mph now I get 36-40 depending on the load.

[reelapeelin]

what prop would you guys reccommend



If you had OB, I'd take a stab at it, but an I/O


HEY GUYS!!...another thing ??? ...any gear-reduction issues goin' on here...his outdrive originally w/ a 6 cyl...now has 4 cyl...any gearing goin' on in his outdrive ??? ...

[macojoe]

That might be it!! My outdrive was from a V8 and I had to have the gears changed for stright 6cly.

[fishbonejr]

ok i whill have that checked out the problem is that my mechaninc is going to the bahamas for the week and i cant talk to him ontill saturday. but when he gets back i will have him look at all of that thanks for all the help i and not an engine person.