White Navigation stern light [Archive] - Wellcraft V20 Community

skpablo

11-30-2006, 10:33 PM

Guys,

Has anybody mounted their anchor/white/rear all round light permanently to the ganwale or stern. I have never seen a removable one work for very long so I was thinking of permanently attaching one.

Does it have to be a certain height? Could I take one that is intended for a hardtop mount and put it on the gunwale?

Pablo

skpablo

11-30-2006, 10:33 PM

Guys,

Has anybody mounted their anchor/white/rear all round light permanently to the ganwale or stern. I have never seen a removable one work for very long so I was thinking of permanently attaching one.

Does it have to be a certain height? Could I take one that is intended for a hardtop mount and put it on the gunwale?

Pablo

Seacrets

11-30-2006, 10:40 PM

Should be in view 360 degrees. I've seen hardtop models that are less than a foot tall.

Seacrets

11-30-2006, 10:40 PM

Should be in view 360 degrees. I've seen hardtop models that are less than a foot tall.

Mac_Attack

11-30-2006, 10:58 PM

Hope you don't fish. *It will get in the way. *Billy Mac *;D

Mac_Attack

11-30-2006, 10:58 PM

Hope you don't fish. *It will get in the way. *Billy Mac *;D

pikfish

11-30-2006, 11:04 PM

When I get a chance I will post the reg. But the bottom line is that the 360 deg. stern light has to be 1 meter above the red/green nav. lights. This is really in the way for guys like me who like to fish at night. I would hate to have to live with it also during the day.

pikfish

11-30-2006, 11:04 PM

When I get a chance I will post the reg. But the bottom line is that the 360 deg. stern light has to be 1 meter above the red/green nav. lights. This is really in the way for guys like me who like to fish at night. I would hate to have to live with it also during the day.

TheTinMan

11-30-2006, 11:04 PM

http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/mwv/navrules/rules/Rule23.htm

TheTinMan

11-30-2006, 11:04 PM

http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/mwv/navrules/rules/Rule23.htm

skpablo

11-30-2006, 11:08 PM

OK. Question answered. Bad idea for all the reasons given in a very short period of time. Just getting into fishing so didn't even think of that. That's why I was thinking if it was low. But if it has to be 36" above Nav lights then that kills that idea. Will just have to spring for a new pole light and possible a new base.

Thanks!

skpablo

11-30-2006, 11:08 PM

OK. Question answered. Bad idea for all the reasons given in a very short period of time. Just getting into fishing so didn't even think of that. That's why I was thinking if it was low. But if it has to be 36" above Nav lights then that kills that idea. Will just have to spring for a new pole light and possible a new base.

Thanks!

TheTinMan

11-30-2006, 11:20 PM

Over 12 meters (not us :)) stern light NEEDS to be a 135* white light, not 360*

TheTinMan

11-30-2006, 11:20 PM

Over 12 meters (not us :)) stern light NEEDS to be a 135* white light, not 360*

phester

11-30-2006, 11:32 PM

four Coastguard "employees" that boarded my boat the other night were curious to know why I was running w/o mine lit up :-/

phester

11-30-2006, 11:32 PM

four Coastguard "employees" that boarded my boat the other night were curious to know why I was running w/o mine lit up :-/

Franco

11-30-2006, 11:43 PM

Pablo, replace the base and the pole at the same time. You'll find that the wires are attached to the base with crimp connectors. Bad Idea in my book. Break out the soldering iron and heat shrink tubing and solder them together. (For you younger guys, soldering irons were what they had before soldering guns, and I have 2 that still work great!) Use the heatshrink with the epoxy coating inside. That'll heep the connections from corroding. Also look for the low glare model, they put out a narrower beam than the regular lights and don't interefere with you eyes as much when running the boat. And don't forget to turn it on when anchored at nite.

Franco

11-30-2006, 11:43 PM

Pablo, replace the base and the pole at the same time. You'll find that the wires are attached to the base with crimp connectors. Bad Idea in my book. Break out the soldering iron and heat shrink tubing and solder them together. (For you younger guys, soldering irons were what they had before soldering guns, and I have 2 that still work great!) Use the heatshrink with the epoxy coating inside. That'll heep the connections from corroding. Also look for the low glare model, they put out a narrower beam than the regular lights and don't interefere with you eyes as much when running the boat. And don't forget to turn it on when anchored at nite.

TheTinMan

11-30-2006, 11:46 PM

Hey Hammer...I noticed your bilge pump on other thread and was going to mention that you should re-do your wiring connection as Franco mentioned above. Don't know what you have under that tape but I'm guessing wires are just twisted together???

TheTinMan

11-30-2006, 11:46 PM

Hey Hammer...I noticed your bilge pump on other thread and was going to mention that you should re-do your wiring connection as Franco mentioned above. Don't know what you have under that tape but I'm guessing wires are just twisted together???

skpablo

11-30-2006, 11:50 PM

Thanks Franco. I have 2 soldering irons as well. It's a plan.

I am also thinking that we're pretty close in years on the planet. 1955.

skpablo

11-30-2006, 11:50 PM

Thanks Franco. I have 2 soldering irons as well. It's a plan.

I am also thinking that we're pretty close in years on the planet. 1955.

Franco

12-01-2006, 12:14 AM

1956 model here LOL

Franco

12-01-2006, 12:14 AM

1956 model here LOL

msbhammer

12-01-2006, 12:42 AM

Hey Tin, I dont know the name of the connectors I used when I did my bildge pump. Each wire slid into a flexable platic connector with metal inside. I then crimped them and added that wet tape in a can, and then wrapped them in electrical tape.

msbhammer

12-01-2006, 12:42 AM

Hey Tin, I dont know the name of the connectors I used when I did my bildge pump. Each wire slid into a flexable platic connector with metal inside. I then crimped them and added that wet tape in a can, and then wrapped them in electrical tape.

TheTinMan

12-01-2006, 01:26 AM

OK Hammer, not bad, would've been a bit better if used heatshrink instead of the tape but you should be OK for awhile, good job ;)

TheTinMan

12-01-2006, 01:26 AM

OK Hammer, not bad, would've been a bit better if used heatshrink instead of the tape but you should be OK for awhile, good job ;)

Franco

12-01-2006, 02:21 AM

They do make crimp connectors with epoxy coated heatshring tubing, I kept a few on board for emergency repairs, they do a pretty good job, but soldering is best

Franco

12-01-2006, 02:21 AM

They do make crimp connectors with epoxy coated heatshring tubing, I kept a few on board for emergency repairs, they do a pretty good job, but soldering is best

turbinedoctor

12-04-2006, 01:11 AM

Here is a stern light that telescopes from 24 to 48"

http://www.boatersworld.com/product/197430077.htm?bct=t13037503%3Bcielectrical-plumbing%3Bcilighting%3Bcinavigation

turbinedoctor

12-04-2006, 01:11 AM

Here is a stern light that telescopes from 24 to 48"

http://www.boatersworld.com/product/197430077.htm?bct=t13037503%3Bcielectrical-plumbing%3Bcilighting%3Bcinavigation

msbhammer

12-04-2006, 02:56 AM

I have the sam estern light that Turbin just posted. I'm happy with it.

msbhammer

12-04-2006, 02:56 AM

I have the sam estern light that Turbin just posted. I'm happy with it.

reelapeelin

12-04-2006, 10:06 AM

The connections the guys are talkin' about are key to keepin' that light goin'...another thing ya wanna do is shoot a little somethin'( WD, Corrosion X, contact cleaner ) in the base and bottom of pole-connections from time to time...and if ya haven't used it for a while, w/ the juice still wet, plug it in a couple of times to keep those contacts fresh ;) 8) ...

I used this base...put it in in '99 and it's never failed...yet ::) ;D ;D...

http://www.boatersworld.com/product/197260839.htm

reelapeelin

12-04-2006, 10:06 AM

The connections the guys are talkin' about are key to keepin' that light goin'...another thing ya wanna do is shoot a little somethin'( WD, Corrosion X, contact cleaner ) in the base and bottom of pole-connections from time to time...and if ya haven't used it for a while, w/ the juice still wet, plug it in a couple of times to keep those contacts fresh ;) 8) ...

I used this base...put it in in '99 and it's never failed...yet ::) ;D ;D...

http://www.boatersworld.com/product/197260839.htm

macojoe

12-04-2006, 11:51 AM

What lights?? We are suppose to have lights? :o

macojoe

12-04-2006, 11:51 AM

What lights?? We are suppose to have lights? :o

turbinedoctor

12-04-2006, 12:00 PM

Only if running at night.

turbinedoctor

12-04-2006, 12:00 PM

Only if running at night.

macojoe

12-04-2006, 12:03 PM

wish some one told me that before!! ;)

Maybe I get them working this summer??

macojoe

12-04-2006, 12:03 PM

wish some one told me that before!! ;)

Maybe I get them working this summer??

reelapeelin

12-04-2006, 01:34 PM

wish some one told me that before!! ;)

Maybe I get them working this summer??

Let's see...bilge-pumps, nav lights, NSFT initiation...you've got a big summer ahead... ;) ;D ...

reelapeelin

12-04-2006, 01:34 PM

wish some one told me that before!! ;)

Maybe I get them working this summer??

Let's see...bilge-pumps, nav lights, NSFT initiation...you've got a big summer ahead... ;) ;D ...

LESTERUS

12-04-2006, 05:05 PM

PABLO:

THERE IS ONE LIGTH THAT IS DETACHABLE FROM THE BASE (YOU ONLY CONNECT IT AT NIGTH WHEN YOU NEED IT), ALSO IT IS LED WHICH LAST LONGER AND USES LESS ELECTRICITY, AND IT EXTENDS ABOUT 48"
(4 FEET) AND ON TOP OF THAT IT IS NARROW BEAM, WHICH DOES NOT BOTHER YOUR EYES AT NIGTH.

I'M GONNA TRY TO LOCATE IT FOR YA.

LESTERUS

LESTERUS

12-04-2006, 05:05 PM

PABLO:

THERE IS ONE LIGTH THAT IS DETACHABLE FROM THE BASE (YOU ONLY CONNECT IT AT NIGTH WHEN YOU NEED IT), ALSO IT IS LED WHICH LAST LONGER AND USES LESS ELECTRICITY, AND IT EXTENDS ABOUT 48"
(4 FEET) AND ON TOP OF THAT IT IS NARROW BEAM, WHICH DOES NOT BOTHER YOUR EYES AT NIGTH.

I'M GONNA TRY TO LOCATE IT FOR YA.

LESTERUS

skpablo

12-04-2006, 08:21 PM

Thanks LESTERUS,

I will see what you come up with. If not, sounds like I got some options and good advise on how to maintain.

It just always seemed that on the removable ones you had to jiggle them around for ten minutes before they worked. The WD-40 on base and pole sounds like a great idea.

skpablo

12-04-2006, 08:21 PM

Thanks LESTERUS,

I will see what you come up with. If not, sounds like I got some options and good advise on how to maintain.

It just always seemed that on the removable ones you had to jiggle them around for ten minutes before they worked. The WD-40 on base and pole sounds like a great idea.

charlie_the_tuna

12-04-2006, 08:31 PM

i've been looking for an LED light but cant find the size i need.
i need to mount it on my hardtop.
have one up there now but would like to go LED.
looking for a fixed mount 360 about 3 to 5 inches tall.

charlie_the_tuna

12-04-2006, 08:31 PM

i've been looking for an LED light but cant find the size i need.
i need to mount it on my hardtop.
have one up there now but would like to go LED.
looking for a fixed mount 360 about 3 to 5 inches tall.

TheTinMan

12-04-2006, 08:55 PM

i've been looking for an LED light but cant find the size i need.
i need to mount it on my hardtop.
have one up there now but would like to go LED.
looking for a fixed mount 360 about 3 to 5 inches tall.

http://www.boatersworld.com/product/196977441msk.htm

TheTinMan

12-04-2006, 08:55 PM

i've been looking for an LED light but cant find the size i need.
i need to mount it on my hardtop.
have one up there now but would like to go LED.
looking for a fixed mount 360 about 3 to 5 inches tall.

http://www.boatersworld.com/product/196977441msk.htm

charlie_the_tuna

12-04-2006, 09:10 PM

y'know tinny, i nominate you as king of the attachments.
gotta check that one out.

charlie_the_tuna

12-04-2006, 09:10 PM

y'know tinny, i nominate you as king of the attachments.
gotta check that one out.

TheTinMan

12-04-2006, 09:14 PM

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TheTinMan

12-04-2006, 09:14 PM

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skpablo

12-04-2006, 11:20 PM

Here's some I found for Hammer

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The chief let him have his bullets back. Just kiddin Hammer.

skpablo

12-04-2006, 11:20 PM

Here's some I found for Hammer

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l158/skpablo/Blue_car.gif

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l158/skpablo/Cop_shoots.gif

The chief let him have his bullets back. Just kiddin Hammer.

macojoe

12-05-2006, 12:59 AM

Let's see...bilge-pumps, nav lights, NSFT initiation...you've got a big summer ahead... Wink Grin ...

I really had lights till I added the Pulpit, Now I have to buy some side mounts.

I still have a stern light but when I wired stuff for the conversion from Yamaha to Evinrude I messed up the wire to it and need to fix.

Bilge pumps?? I bet I never install them!

NSFT Easy come June!!

macojoe

12-05-2006, 12:59 AM

Let's see...bilge-pumps, nav lights, NSFT initiation...you've got a big summer ahead... Wink Grin ...

I really had lights till I added the Pulpit, Now I have to buy some side mounts.

I still have a stern light but when I wired stuff for the conversion from Yamaha to Evinrude I messed up the wire to it and need to fix.

Bilge pumps?? I bet I never install them!

NSFT Easy come June!!

LESTERUS

12-05-2006, 02:15 PM

MC, WAIT TILL YOU START GETTING WATER IN ONE DAY AND I'LL BE YA'D RUN TO THE STORE AND BUY THE BIGGEST PUMP THE HAVE, THAT HAPPENED TO ME IN A FRIEND'S BOAT, GOING TO BIMINI, THE STUPID MF HIT A BIG WAVE AND THE HULL CRACKED BOUT A FOOT LONG,
BEFORE WE KNEW IT, WE WERE SWIMING INSIDE THE BOAT, CALLING MAYDAY AT 20 MILES OUT IN THE FLA STRAIGTHS, AS A RESULT, NOW I BOUGTH THE FOLLOWING:

- 2 BILGE PUMPS, 1 -800 GPH AUTOMATIC, 1, 3000 GPH AUTO/MANUAL W/SOUND ALARM
- AUTO/MANUAL E.P.I.R.B (EMERGENCY POSITION INDICATOR RADIO BEACON) 400 MHZ (SATELITE LINKED)
- 2 MUSTANG AUTOMATIC PFD'S
- VERY IMPORTANT: ALL MY PFD'S ARE LAID LOOSE INSIDE THE CABIN, IF YOU CAPSIZE OR SINK QUICKLY, YOU'D WANT THEM TO FLOAT AT THE SURFACE, NOT TO SINK IN A FANCY BAG.

LESTERUS

LESTERUS

12-05-2006, 02:15 PM

MC, WAIT TILL YOU START GETTING WATER IN ONE DAY AND I'LL BE YA'D RUN TO THE STORE AND BUY THE BIGGEST PUMP THE HAVE, THAT HAPPENED TO ME IN A FRIEND'S BOAT, GOING TO BIMINI, THE STUPID MF HIT A BIG WAVE AND THE HULL CRACKED BOUT A FOOT LONG,
BEFORE WE KNEW IT, WE WERE SWIMING INSIDE THE BOAT, CALLING MAYDAY AT 20 MILES OUT IN THE FLA STRAIGTHS, AS A RESULT, NOW I BOUGTH THE FOLLOWING:

- 2 BILGE PUMPS, 1 -800 GPH AUTOMATIC, 1, 3000 GPH AUTO/MANUAL W/SOUND ALARM
- AUTO/MANUAL E.P.I.R.B (EMERGENCY POSITION INDICATOR RADIO BEACON) 400 MHZ (SATELITE LINKED)
- 2 MUSTANG AUTOMATIC PFD'S
- VERY IMPORTANT: ALL MY PFD'S ARE LAID LOOSE INSIDE THE CABIN, IF YOU CAPSIZE OR SINK QUICKLY, YOU'D WANT THEM TO FLOAT AT THE SURFACE, NOT TO SINK IN A FANCY BAG.

LESTERUS

macojoe

12-05-2006, 08:16 PM

MC, WAIT TILL YOU START GETTING WATER IN ONE DAY AND I'LL BE YA'D RUN TO THE STORE AND BUY THE BIGGEST PUMP THE HAVE

I have a 1200 & a 800 GPH pumps in the basement, they are brand new and been there 5 years at least!!

I have taken bad waves over the back in the rips!! Just pull out the old hand pump, works every time!!

Just a few weeks ago I hit a rock and the whole boat listed to one side and all almost went over board!!

Just a little water and did not bother with trying to get it out.
I have since repaired all damage and repainted the whole bottom.

Still NO pumps in the boat!

macojoe

12-05-2006, 08:16 PM

MC, WAIT TILL YOU START GETTING WATER IN ONE DAY AND I'LL BE YA'D RUN TO THE STORE AND BUY THE BIGGEST PUMP THE HAVE

I have a 1200 & a 800 GPH pumps in the basement, they are brand new and been there 5 years at least!!

I have taken bad waves over the back in the rips!! Just pull out the old hand pump, works every time!!

Just a few weeks ago I hit a rock and the whole boat listed to one side and all almost went over board!!

Just a little water and did not bother with trying to get it out.
I have since repaired all damage and repainted the whole bottom.

Still NO pumps in the boat!

Hammerhead

12-13-2006, 01:54 AM

I use the removable 24" pole light. The CG has boarded me twice...looking for illegals in the cuddy. First time I kept my mouth shut and let'm do their job. Second time I was a lil'POed...(same CG crew) I told'm if they came across any elsewhere I'd like to buy two for yardwork. They didn't laugh. :-[

Hammerhead

12-13-2006, 01:54 AM

I use the removable 24" pole light. The CG has boarded me twice...looking for illegals in the cuddy. First time I kept my mouth shut and let'm do their job. Second time I was a lil'POed...(same CG crew) I told'm if they came across any elsewhere I'd like to buy two for yardwork. They didn't laugh. :-[

bradford

01-05-2007, 12:02 AM

The smaller your boat, the bigger your bilge pump. I run a Rule 1500.

bradford

01-05-2007, 12:02 AM

The smaller your boat, the bigger your bilge pump. I run a Rule 1500.

LESTERUS

01-09-2007, 03:06 PM

DOUG:

SEE THAT'S WHAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND: DOWN HERE YOU SEE THESE SPEED BOATS WITH THREE 300 HP ON THEM, THAT ARE SCREAMING OUTLOUD DRUGS OR ILLEGALS, AND THEY DON'T GET SEARCHED NOR STOPPED. THERE YOU ARE IN AN OLD, SMALL (NO OFFENSE INTENDED) 20 FOOTER IN CENTRAL FLA
AND THE SAME CREW STOPED YOU TWICE LOOKING FOR ILLEGALS, GO FIGURE!!!!!

LESTERUS

01-09-2007, 03:06 PM

DOUG:

SEE THAT'S WHAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND: DOWN HERE YOU SEE THESE SPEED BOATS WITH THREE 300 HP ON THEM, THAT ARE SCREAMING OUTLOUD DRUGS OR ILLEGALS, AND THEY DON'T GET SEARCHED NOR STOPPED. THERE YOU ARE IN AN OLD, SMALL (NO OFFENSE INTENDED) 20 FOOTER IN CENTRAL FLA
AND THE SAME CREW STOPED YOU TWICE LOOKING FOR ILLEGALS, GO FIGURE!!!!!

bcmarinamanager

04-25-2007, 06:46 PM

Hey skpablo, If you are not going to be anchored at night, you need a 135deg rear facing white light. Anchor lights need to be 360. Most time Coast Gaurd will want to see both in case you get stuck out at night.
Here is a link to your basic info.
http://www.boatingbasicsonline.com/course/boating/4_2_b.php

bcmarinamanager

04-25-2007, 06:46 PM

Hey skpablo, If you are not going to be anchored at night, you need a 135deg rear facing white light. Anchor lights need to be 360. Most time Coast Gaurd will want to see both in case you get stuck out at night.
Here is a link to your basic info.
http://www.boatingbasicsonline.com/course/boating/4_2_b.php

phatdaddy

04-25-2007, 08:46 PM

probaly not legal on our boats, but a lot of the guys here have the stern light mounted on the top of the engine cowling.

next time you think you are going to get boarded, stop and take off you cowling like you are broke down, they usually turn 90* and go elsewhere.

phatdaddy

04-25-2007, 08:46 PM

probaly not legal on our boats, but a lot of the guys here have the stern light mounted on the top of the engine cowling.

next time you think you are going to get boarded, stop and take off you cowling like you are broke down, they usually turn 90* and go elsewhere.

Stinky_Hooker

04-26-2007, 10:35 PM

I pray you never eat those words MJ. ;)

Stinky_Hooker

04-26-2007, 10:35 PM

I pray you never eat those words MJ. ;)

macojoe

04-26-2007, 10:37 PM

;) ;D

macojoe

04-26-2007, 10:37 PM

;) ;D

Stillrunning

04-30-2007, 07:01 PM

I just use one of those 24' removeable with one of those dome caps over the bulb and its fine for fishing. I have found the taller the pole the more people tend to grab it for balance and of course they snap it off getting into the boat.

Stillrunning

04-30-2007, 07:01 PM

I just use one of those 24' removeable with one of those dome caps over the bulb and its fine for fishing. I have found the taller the pole the more people tend to grab it for balance and of course they snap it off getting into the boat.

Hammerhead

05-01-2007, 12:17 AM

DOUG:

SEE THAT'S WHAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND: DOWN HERE YOU SEE THESE SPEED BOATS WITH THREE 300 HP ON THEM, THAT ARE SCREAMING OUTLOUD DRUGS OR ILLEGALS, AND THEY DON'T GET SEARCHED NOR STOPPED. THERE YOU ARE IN AN OLD, SMALL (NO OFFENSE INTENDED) 20 FOOTER IN CENTRAL FLA
AND THE SAME CREW STOPED YOU TWICE LOOKING FOR ILLEGALS, GO FIGURE!!!!! *

I guess they were just getting to know me. I pass by'm all the time now. They wave.

Hammerhead

05-01-2007, 12:17 AM

DOUG:

SEE THAT'S WHAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND: DOWN HERE YOU SEE THESE SPEED BOATS WITH THREE 300 HP ON THEM, THAT ARE SCREAMING OUTLOUD DRUGS OR ILLEGALS, AND THEY DON'T GET SEARCHED NOR STOPPED. THERE YOU ARE IN AN OLD, SMALL (NO OFFENSE INTENDED) 20 FOOTER IN CENTRAL FLA
AND THE SAME CREW STOPED YOU TWICE LOOKING FOR ILLEGALS, GO FIGURE!!!!! *

I guess they were just getting to know me. I pass by'm all the time now. They wave.