Kicker Bracket

[bigshrimpin]

Has anyone added a kicker bracket to their v-20? if so did you thru - bolt it? or screw it into the transom?

[chumbucket]

BigShrimpin, When I bought my V20 CC last year it came with a kicker bracket through bolted to the starboard side transom. I'm actually thinking of removing both the kicker bracket and the swim platform on the port side. I don't expect to be ever using the kicker bracket. If your interested in it, let me know. We can work something out. It's not woth much to me. Drop me an e-mail if you are interested.

[chumbucket]

Hey bigshrimpin, I was out taking advantage of the nice day we finally had and got a little work done on the boat. I would like to know how they get so dirty even though they're covered for the winter! I've got a lot of work to do. Anyways, I was eyeballing the kicker bracket and I'm definately removing it. Again, as I said, if your interested in it, it's yours. It's really not in too bad shape. It's the adjustable type that can be raised and lowered with several height adjustments.

[bigshrimpin]

Thanks Chumbucket!! *I inherited an old adjustable bracket from my dad's boat, but thanks just the same!! * My Yamaha sometimes acts like it's 102 years old in engine years, so I beginning to become uncomfortable about heading out without a backup. * *

[chumbucket]

No problem. Mine is through bolted with stainless carriage bolts. Seems very solid. My motor's been running like a champ and the bracket sometimes gets in the way. I know what you mean about feeling uncomfortable out there and I know from some of your posts on THT that your going to be targeting B.F. Tuna. So it's probably a good idea. I had the kicker setup on my previous Grady White because of the same feeling. How are you thinking of rigging it? I went with a Yamaha 9.9hp 4 stroke with electric start so I was able to feed it off the main tank and not have to worry about oil mix. Main engine was oil injected. I used it many times for trolling and had the EZ-Steer link bar so I could steer from the helm once I set my speed. Worked out well for that and was better than running a 225hp motor at idle speeds all day long. Always seemed to gum up the works on the big motor not to mention the fuel savings. Good luck with it.

[bigshrimpin]

I worked on mounting the kicker bracket this weekend. *I am sad to say that the baitwell/dry storage area in the rear is now gone, but look at all the great space for a second battery or more storage. * I still have to trim out the remaining glass from the well, but the shelf is there to mount the second battery. * I sure hope the 4 hp will push this boat forward.
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[chumbucket]

Are you going to set that up with an E-Z Steer link bar or just work it from the transom. I used the E-Z Steer on my Grady and it worked out pretty well. Not too difficult to steer from the transom though. May be slow, but it'll get you home! Should be fine for trolling too or are you just going to have it as an emergency backup?

[Guest]

You should be able to just set the kicker dead ahead and steer with the main engine. That will be your best rudder anyway. :D

Chumbucket let me know what you want for that bracket, I am looking to put one on my new V-20 I got today.

Cbuzz

[bigshrimpin]

ChumB,
* *My plan was to use it as emergency backup, but I may try trolling with it. *I doubt there is anyway that I could get the 200 to push the boat as slow the 4 will push the boat. * Someday (budget permitting) I hope to replace the 4hp mariner with a 4 stroke (6, 8, or 9.9hp) and feed the kicker off the main tank (that's the perfect setup). * Did you ever break down in the Grady and have to rely on the kicker to get you home? *

CBUZZ - This weekend I will mess around with locking the kicker in a forward position and use the 200 as a tiller. *My concern is that the 200 will cause too much drag for the my wimpy 4, but I'm going to give it a try. *

Thanks guys for the suggestions . . . I'll keep you posted when I launch tomorrow or Sunday. *

[chumbucket]

BigShrimpin, Never had to rely on to get home luckily. I used mine for trolling quite a bit. I had a Yammi 9.9 4 stroke set up just the way you mentioned. It pushed my 22' Grady up to 8 knots but it was also equipped with the high torque prop so I would guess that 4hp should be okay for a while.
I think you're going to be holding off until Sunday on the launch. Have you seen the weather forcast for tomorrow? :o ::)
Good luck with it. Keep us posted.

[chumbucket]

cbuzz, I'm sure we can work something out. Where are you located so I can check on shipping charges and get back to you. Shouldn't be too much though ;) Or if you've got something for trade, let me know ;D

[Guest]

Live in Calif. 93422

The only thing I have to trade right now is a near new Quicksilver speedo. Was in one of my boats for about 6 months untill I changed it to a lower speed type for skiing. I think this one goes to 65-70 MPH. Black face with blue #

Cbuzz

[bigshrimpin]

Oh . . . I might be able to float the boat right off trailer and float through the streets with the amount of rain they're predicting for tomorrow. Started the boat this afternoon with muffs. . . and it's ready to go for Sunday.

[chumbucket]

Cbuzz, If you're interested in the kicker bracket, let me know. You cover the shipping to zip 93422 ($14.68) and throw me $10.00 and consider it yours. Looks very similar to BigShrimpin's bracket. Let me know and I give you my addy.

[cbuzz]

Sounds great lets do it.
Send me your address and I will mail a check ASAP.

Charlie

[Mac_Attack]

BS I'm planning on putting a kicker bracket on my boat which has the live well as did yours. How much room was there between the live well and the transom. I'm thinking of cutting an access hole in the splash well to get access to the inside of the transom. After cutting this access hole would I be able to get my hand or a tool in there to hold the nut. Thanks Bill Mc

[Brian_M]

Mac,

i don't know if you decided on a bracket yet but I just picked up a nice stainless steel bracket from Boatersworld (online) holds up to 115 lbs, has a 11 inch movement and a composite mounting plate. i picked this one because it adapts to the negative transom easily...hope to mount it this weekend after making a couple backing plates.

brian

[bigshrimpin]

Mac,
Cutting a hole in the splashwell and trying to install a bracket from this direction will be very painful. You have about 2 or 3 inches to work with . . . make sure you give yourself plenty of time.

[Seakindly]

Mac, why don't you cut a hole to the inside of the cockpit and mount hatch doors like in my v21?
That will give you good storage and access to that space. Why not try to mount kicker that way, instead of making a useless and undesireable hole in your splashwell? Even if it turns out that you can't get at it from the front, you will have a worthwhile modification. If need be, why not cut the backside out of the well with a dremel and then glass it back in after you mount your bracket?

[Seakindly]

Mac, you would be wise to study this link:
http://www.wellcraftv20.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=General;action=display;num=10473507 06;start=2#2
Kill two birds (your next project) with one stone. 8)

[Mac_Attack]

Brian, I like your choice of bracket. Let us know how the mounting went. Post pictures please Bill Mc ;D

[Brian_M]

MacAttack,

Installation went smooth, even altering the swim platform was easier than I thought. Nice bracket, lots of spring strength for easy lowering and raising (I have a Merc 4hp, about 50lbs). Photos have been added in the gallery, note the last photo, Completley stripped interior...no wood or vinyl, with fuel tanks exposed. The bracket is through bolted backed up with 2" aluminum angle stock, bedded in marine sealant

Brian

[Mac_Attack]

Brian and Seakindly, *My boat is stored at by brother in laws house and its on the other side of Detroit from me so I just now got back over there to study my kicker bracket installation. *I am going to install a hatch door like the ones on a V21. *I should then have enough room to work and later a storage spot. *My questiion to you guys now is *How is the placement of the bracket determined? *I have some ideas. *I'd like to get yours! *Thanks Bill Mc ;D

Sure is still without Macojoe.

[Brian_M]

Hi MacAttack,

For my bracket, the vertical position on the transom was decided by the lift range of the bracket, and the length of the shaft of the kicker. The instructions that came with the bracket were good; as far as horizontal positioning, I decided to place the bracket centered in the space between the I/O engine box and port side gunn'el simply for ease of access to the kicker. Port side was picked simply because the stbd side of my V20 has the shift cables, steering and wiring harness occupying lots of space on the right side of the transom which i didn't want to drill through or work around.

Brian

[Mac_Attack]

MINE IS GOING TO GO ON THE PORT SIDE ALSO.

BILL MC

West Marine carries your bracket. I went to their store to get an up close view. Your bracket will be my choice. In Seakindly's photos his bracket appears to be the same one also.

[Seakindly]

I installed on the port side because I have my batts and wiring on the starboard side, and I wanted to balance the weight. My fuel filter and remote oil tank are on the port side and I didn't want to have to swap everything, although I would have preferred the kicker to starboard because the tiller and fuel inlet would be to the centerline if starboard mounted. On the other hand, I think those steering connectors (that I don't have) to the main motor, require the kicker to be mounted on the port side.

Look at my pics and you will see that I only had so much room to mount cause of my bracket-like transom.

I taped a yardstick to the hull to extend the plane of the bottom. The mounting instructions are good, but I disobeyed them by lowering the kicker 1 inch, because I wanted to be sure of a good prop bite in ocean seas. If you are in relatively calm seas most of the time it is nice if your kicker doesn't touch water when you're on plane with the bracket in the up position and the kicker not tilted.

[Mac_Attack]

Along with removing the Sharks, I cut an access door in just like on the V21s. There is plenty of room to get to the bolts when I install my kicker bracket, and there is quite a bit of storage under the livewell. Thanks Seakindly for your advice! Bill Mc ;D

Pictures are posted in the gallery.

[chumbucket]

Looks much betterer! ;) Now I'm very jealous though. :-[ Nice Stingray. 8) What's it got for a motor? Wouldn't mind hearing the particulars on the ride. I could get into a whole thread about that little sweetheart there.

[Seakindly]

You're welcome, mac. Did you do both sides?

Is ther enuff room for batteries or a remote oil tank?

[Mac_Attack]

CB your asking about my brother in law's car? *Its all stock. *All redone to original specs. *427cu 435hp or what ever GM made with tri power. Very nice car, he would not trade up for the V20 though. *I'll ask him about the specifics and post you later. *67 coupe.

CB I did not do both sides * *yet. *It would look betterer with both sides done and *would make it easier to get to the battery. *There is enough room for a smaller battery or oil reserve. *Bill Mc ;D

[Mac_Attack]

Seakindly I got my outboard bracket today and will be mounting it soon. I noticed on yours and BS's installizations you both mounted it in on plastic and not directly over the fiber glass . I curious why? Bill Mc

[Seakindly]

Bracket has hard sharp edges. Didn't want stress cracking.
You can't tell from my pics, but I also rounded over the inside edges of the starboard.
Epoxy seal your transom holes, and use lots of good quality adhesive sealant such as boatlife polysulfide or 3M 4000 UV.
Dry mount first.
Have fun. :)

[Mac_Attack]

Thanks for your reply. I never thought about the epoxy, only the caulk they talked about. The more you do the better chance of no water getting into the transom. Bill Mc