Fraternal Order of Norton Snaggers

[willy]

Well I have an announcement to make,after 10 months of looking and being disappointed I will finally be officially joining the fraternal order within the next week or so. I got a call from Fillet 1 a couple of weeks ago and went down and sea trialed his v20. We made a deal and I should be picking it up soon. Have not seen it out of the water yet but don't expect any problems, he did a lot of work on the boat. Put my Robalo 1820 CC in the paper, if anyone knows someone in NJ who is looking for a mint CC let me know. And for all of you guys who have put up with my stupid questions all these months I want to say this, it's going to get worse now ::) Really though thanks and especially Capt. Norton who I have really pestered. I love ya man ;D

[Franco]

WILLY, WERE SWAPPING POSITIONS, YOUR IN ONE, AND I'M OUTTA ONE - YOU GOT A FINE RIDE THERE THOUGH BUD!!!

[willy]

Thanks Franco, it looks like a good one, I love that full transom ;D it needs some things and needs some issues cleared up that Fillet did'nt have time to get to but overall its a fine boat, solid hull, strong solid floor and transom and a fairly recent 2001 installed motor with low hours.

[Blue_Runner]

What's F1 buyin? Bought? Another V20? I didn't know he was sellin?? Congrats Willy!

[willy]

Thanks Blue, remember back in June he posted that he hates to do it but he was selling, well I emailed him a couple of times but heard nothing until about three weeks ago and out of the blue he emailed me wondering if I was still interested. I don't think he is buying anything else now. But he goes out with two good friends with big boats all the time and the v20 basically sat all summer. So he decided to just fish off those bigger boats and not have the expence of maintaining and docking his. That is the general gist of it. Either way I liked the boat it is set up with the bracket like I wanted and a lot of the basic things Fillet has done. Needs some wiring and minor gel coat work but I could splash it next week and fish the striper runs and work on it over the winter

[Blue_Runner]

Sounds great Willy! I remember F1's boat being really nice. Did you get the top and side curtains too? Does it have the rear curtain?

That boat should get great fuel economy with that 115.

[willy]

Yea Blue he bought an enclosure this year. It does not have the back just sides and front. The 115 gets real good gas he says, seldom has to fill her up. It pushes the boat up to approx 27 mph according to the gps unit but I could tell that the engine needs a decarb, he's never done it and he mostly drifts in the bay with it ideling when he does fish. And for some reason it does'nt seem to want to go above 5000-5100 rpm. He thinks it went to 5400 rpm when he first splashed the boat but is unsure. I think it needs a good tune up some cable adjustments(throttle) because the shifter is maxing over but it seems like it is'nt pulling throttle cable enough to me.

[Blue_Runner]

Cool deal, sounds like you're on top of things there willy. That's a nice lookin top on that boat, and as you know, most of us really dig that full transom.

[willy]

Thanks Blue ;)

[Franco]

Hey Willy, I've rewired a V20 before, call me if you need help or advice. Shouldn't have too much to do to that boat though

[willy]

Oh you'll be hearing from me Franco, When it comes to figuring out that spaghetti behind the dash I start out confused and it goes down hill from there ::) it needs the running lights(twin) in the bow redone. I want to install larger ones that will actually be visible to an oncoming boat and there is some rewiring of the battery and other transom things I want to go over..

[willy]

Also I'm going to be installing my 9.9 Suzuki on the transom, as soon as I figure out a way to do it and be able to steer from the helm. With that 28" armstrong bracket it will be hard to connect them with one of those steering arms

[willy]

Also can anyone tell me can u tow your boat with the top and enclosure up or do ya have to pull it all down, I'll be trailering mine all the time ???

[phester]

willy, I just had an enclosure installed...asked the guy the same question. He said for a short distance and under 40 MPH it would be ok, but as a rule you should'nt. I live 1.2 miles to my ramp so I've got no issues there...as I make my way EAST this fall, to MONTAUK, she will be in the down position.Thats about a 75 mile drive for me. BTW Willy, I told someone on this board that Fillet1 was selling...was that you? I've forgotten,... just a couple weeks back....anyway good luck w/the boat it's a nice package

[Franco]

Depends on how far and how fast, I towed with mine uo for two years!!!! Just gotta make sure the snaps are tight. Just keep it under 35mph and you should be okay

[phester]

hey franco, when you gonna supersize your avitar...c'mon hurry

[willy]

Thanks Phes and Franco looks like I got to put it down :( longer and faster trip, nobody does under 70 in NJ so I'll have wind wash if nothing else. And Phester I saw your post but I had already bought his boat by then I think, can't remember for sure. I tried to get ahold of him back in June when he posted he was selling but no contact until a few weeks ago

[willy]

Yea Bud super size that sweet thing for Gods sake, old guys like me should'nt have to wear reading glasses to get a chubby 8)

[reelapeelin]

Willy, I'm like Phester and Franco...low speed (under 40 mph) and short distance, top up is OK, but anything over that and you're gonna ruin one of the best assets of your new boat... ;)...Tell Fillet to poke his head in here from time to time and let us know how he's doin'...always enjoyed his posts... :)...

[fillet1]

Alright, I'm out of the woodwork.

Willy has robbed me of my boat. Er actually, I have robbed myself. It is a combination of things. Family obligations, work obligations etc combined with other friends dragging me offshore on the few chances I get to get out.

Despite all that I have sellers remorse already and Willy hasnt even picked it up yet. I did a lot of work on the boat over the winter and am very happy with it. I hope he is too.

BTW I see "Norton snagger" has become quite the phenomena around here. I still want my royalty as a founding father!!

[macojoe]

Is that founding or fondling ?? :-*

[Blue_Runner]

Top up under 40mph - took the words right outta my mouth. Now you might have to adjust that 40mph when you factor in any gusty wind that might be blowing around. 8)

I'm about 7 or 8 miles from the ramp, so I'll probably trailer with it up when the weather warrants it. Its just now starting to cool off here in NC.

[willy]

See I told you he is still around ;D and he better stay on this site to help me figure out where all the skeletons are on the boat :o Oh and if you are still on Fillet I called the marina guy and left a message so if you hear from him that is why

[willy]

Anyone ever put a kicker motor on a boat with a bracket? Not enough room on the bracket itself and pretty far back to put a steering arm from the main motor

[willy]

guess I better make this a seperate post :(

[reelapeelin]

Willy, I'm invisioning a single motor (narrow) bracket and attempting to add a small kicker for trollin' and "get-home"...steerin' kicker from helm...that does sound like a tough one...methinks it'll take some "shade-tree engineering"... ;) :)...

post some pics from several angles...w/the kicker deployed, how far behind is the big motor?... ???...

[willy]

I don't know yet RP I have not p/u boat from Fillet yet, next week. Bracket is 28" so it is going to be quite a stretch to install kicker with helm steering, I dont know how far the brackets you put on a transom for kickers extends I'm sure there is a variety but it sure won't be 28" plus the depth of a 115 v4

[reelapeelin]

Keep the faith, Willy...some are adjustable and may reach further than ya think...but it seems you're gonna have to mount everything (or at least see WHERE it's gonna mount), then see what you got to work with...are you gonna use the kicker-bracket that "scissors" up/down?...that one holds the motor off pretty good... ;)...

[willy]

I dont know yet, with those if you are on the water and you decide to put it down how do you get back there to hook up the linkage bar, with my luck I'll be swimming ::)

[fishmaster63]

im a bit surprised noone thought of this before... although with my sea ray, i came home under kicker power quite a few times. drop the kicker down, start her up, point her dead straight and simply use you main outboard as a rudder. of course you wont be turning on a dime or docking like a champ but course changes are a snap with this method. try it and see.

[chumbucket]

I had the similar bracket with an Evinrude 225 on my Grady-White. I also had a Yamaha 9.9 4 stroke on the scissor bracket. Between the Yamaha on that bracket and the link bar connector on the side of the lower leg of the Evinrude, it was an easy fit. No problems at all. I'm not sure about some of the newer link bars, but mine had a connector fitting on each motor that looked like a pneumatic quick coupling so the bar snapped in very easily. I don't think you'll have any trouble with it.

[macojoe]

who cares!! Get back to work you slacker!!

Don't you have some Nortons to shave??

[chumbucket]

I'm not at work dingleberry. I'm am not shaving any norton nor will not under any circumstances allow you or anyone else (especially my wife) get near my nortons with razors. :o







For those of you that don't know, I work for Gillette. 8)

[fishmaster63]

well then mr bucket... i would love to know, as would all other members of this board, HOW COULD YOU?!? how could you let them get away with eliminating the microtrac?!? quite possibly the best disposable razor ever to shave a mans face? a womans legs? a punks mohawk? a bodybuilders back? my mother in laws mustach? HOW COULD YOU?!?

[fishmaster63]

by the way... has anyone ever fished with 5 or 6 guys on you v20s?

[willy]

Boy I seem to run some wide ranging and long posts, it must be a talent of some kind 8)

[willy]

And I intend to fill up a v20 real soon with as many guys that will fit for an inaugural cruise, plus a couple of super models 8)

[willy]

And by the way since we are free wheeling here anyone got one of those bench seats in decent condition that came on the mid-80's v20's, mine has those metal posts in the floor but there is no seat. Us guys that go out occasionaly with the wife and four kids ( and an occasional super model) may need some seating ;)

[chumbucket]

fishmaster, no control over those decisions my friend. Many of the employees felt the same way about that razor. I'm working on the newest product not yet released. Top secrect...hush, hush. Most of the disposables with the exception of the newest and top of the line (same with the non-disposables) are not made in this country. They are made at Gillette facilities in Mexico, Poland, Brazil.
Here's a staggering number for ya. Just Mach 3 production alone, we make anywhere from 50.5 - 60 million blades per week. Not complete cartridges of which there are 3 per, so that puts us in the area of say 17 - 20 million cartridges per week. :o ;D 8)

[Mac_Attack]

I fish 5 (3 adults 2 12Year olds). Four fish and one at the helm controlling boat during our troll.

Mach 3 is the razor of my choice, good job on those CB! *Bill Mc *;D

If you can't find an original bench, Cabellas offer one in their catalog. *Check my album you'll find several photos of it in use. *No super model though.

[willy]

Ah we can't have everything in life

[willy]

Thanks Mac I will check theirs out. No one else got the v20 bench they don't want though huh :-/