Fired Up One of them Future Twins Today [Archive]

Skools Out

08-22-2005, 12:22 AM

What a Beautiful sound today ummm. The sounds of one of my V-20's future twin 225 Johnson's. She sounded so good with the new wisco pistons and Boyesen Reeds. I can't wait now i've just got to get the twin to her put back together. ;D ;D ;D

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a46/Skools_Out/Motors/MVC-009S.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a46/Skools_Out/Motors/MVC-003S.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a46/Skools_Out/Motors/MVC-001S.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a46/Skools_Out/Motors/MVC-002S.jpg

Skools Out

08-22-2005, 12:53 AM

Here's her future Twin in the cart. http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a46/Skools_Out/Motors/MVC-004S.jpg

OH Yeah and Blue_Runner here's one of your 140's apart on the table. waiting on a new piston.

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a46/Skools_Out/Motors/MVC-006S.jpg

reelapeelin

08-22-2005, 07:54 AM

So Skool...guess one of those 225s just wouldn't cut it...huh?...tell me you got a full transom to hang them puppies from... :D..

Skools Out

08-22-2005, 09:55 AM

LOL well i rebuilt my transom and made it 28" center so that twin 25" motors will be perfect together. Plus made the new transom 3 3/4" thick from bottom to top.

Blue_Runner

08-22-2005, 11:24 AM

That's one thick butt transom hoss!

Havis

08-22-2005, 12:41 PM

A Ha! *Another twin V-20! *I have the V-4 version of those engines and I thought they made her a bit tail heavy. *Are you using a bracket? If so, who's? *I'm going to bracket mine for the added flotation provided by the cavity within the bracket so she sets more level at rest. *Right now they are on jack plates(previous owner...I'm polishing some of his work). *The problem I'm seeing is the slight curve to the transom. *Did you re-do your transom flat? *Most brackets out of the box are flat, but I know Armstrong will build one curved. *Pricey though. *I've also considered building my own. *What are your thoughts?

Skools Out

08-22-2005, 01:21 PM

I have 2 sets of twin 140's. 2 Johnson 25" CR 140's and 2 Evinrude 20" CR 140's. I may end up putting the twin 140's on instead. My transom is only flat in the center for the twins it has a flat 40" section in the middle and 28" high in the center and 25" high 27" apart for my 27" min motor seperation. I'm not using a bracket. But i am going to add 14x8 hydaulic trim tabs.

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a46/Skools_Out/WellCraft/MVC-034S.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a46/Skools_Out/WellCraft/MVC-032S.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a46/Skools_Out/WellCraft/MVC-035S.jpg

Havis

08-22-2005, 01:50 PM

You might want to go grab a tape measure and check the distance between the lower chine and transom notch. I just went out and measured mine to water the water line and it is 7 inches above the chine.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v325/havis/SkoolsOuttransomedit.jpg

Just want you aware so if you need to modify anything it can be now rather than after the first launch.

Havis

08-22-2005, 01:51 PM

Granted, my engines are 13 inches off the transom without any added flotation.

Skools Out

08-22-2005, 03:13 PM

Havis
Thanks for the water line question Havis. I'll check that this afternoon.

BR?
What kind of oil did you run in the twins you had? That motor looks like new inside.

phester

08-22-2005, 10:07 PM

Skool, thats one busy little shop you've got going on there...motors and parts everywhere...no wonder why you know so much about outboards and boats

Skools Out

08-23-2005, 12:31 AM

LOL yeah i could make a second job out of boats in my shop. the problem is i have a 40 x 60 shop and it is full, all the boats are outside but one.

Stinky_Hooker

08-23-2005, 03:40 PM

You serious?!?! I thought this thread was a joke!! You really puttin two 225s on a v20!! :o

Skools Out

08-23-2005, 08:41 PM

LOL oh yeah fastest V-20 on the water lol. Hey Havis i measured the black line is exactly 7" from the chines and the top of the transom is another 8" from there.

bigshrimpin

08-24-2005, 10:42 PM

Skool - you're scareing me. That's way too much HP.
Just try it once (don't kill yourself either) and go back to a single 225. The v20 isn't designed/built to hit 60+ mph (or in your case (80+mph repeatedly). Keep the other 225 for parts/spare.

reelapeelin

08-25-2005, 12:17 AM

Big, he's got me concerned, too...my biggest fear is that it'll sink stern first from the weight... :o...but I think Skool's "round the bend" on this one...don't think we can turn him...just wish him best of luck!...

Skools Out

08-25-2005, 12:38 AM

Thanks for the concern. I've still got a couple sets of twin 140's i may use a set of them first and see how i like the twin 140's. I actually have 3 225 Johnsons. I'd really like to find a 28 to 31 ft center console for 2 of the 225's or find a 35 to 38 ft for the 3 of them. A 28 thru 38 without motors cheap or with blown up OMC products.

phester

08-25-2005, 12:48 AM

"MADMAN"

Franco

08-25-2005, 01:01 AM

Hey Skools, wanna part with one of thos big outboards?

Skools Out

08-25-2005, 02:01 AM

actually i have thought of selling one of the 225's

bigshrimpin

08-25-2005, 02:03 AM

Here's a few projects that can handle that power . . .

http://www.projectboats.net/pictures.html?1299

OR

http://images.traderonline.com/EMedia/tarchive2/103/348375/00015327E01.jpg

http://adcache.boattraderonline.com/6/4/8/79230348.htm

Skools Out

08-25-2005, 02:09 AM

Thanks BS i liked that first link that's like a over grown V-20. I looked at a 30 ft Chris-Craft he had on that website once but never got the money right for me to be willing to drive to S. Fla.

hey i like this WellCraft that project boats has in need of some motors.

http://www.projectboats.net/images/boats/1368/b1368c.jpg

Blue_Runner

08-25-2005, 11:13 AM

Skool, I just used that Quicksilver stuff you get at Wal-mart. Glad to hear the motor looks good on the inside! The previous owner said they were winterized, so hope the other one looks as good.

About the 225 motors, if I were you I'd hang twin 115's on there. You'd have a heck of a rang and the reliability of twins without the added weight. Should push it over 50 easily I would think.

Franco

08-25-2005, 11:25 AM

SKOOLS, IM ME ABOUT THE 225 - I MIGHT BE INTERESTED!!!

Havis

08-25-2005, 12:43 PM

I talked to a friend of mine who used to build and race PowerPlay go-fast boats before I bought my overpowered V-20. He said if the transom will handle the push of the engines, the hull will handle the speed, though it could get squirrley at high speed with some waves since it is so short. Also, for a given speed, an increase in hp does not equal the same increase in speed. He said 70mph is elusive and for some reason it takes gobs of power for any boat to get there and even more gobs to break 80 and nearly double the hp from 80 to break 90. The Scarab 22 with the stock 330hp BBC runs upper 60's, but the same boat 502/502 Mercruiser will run upper 70's 180hp for 10mph. Eliminator makes a 22' steplift hull and they will give it to you with the 502/502 Merc. Point is, is if you pay attention, it's not quite as lethal as one might think. Just build the transom right and forget about insuring the thing. I don't know about other states, but you can get a boat recommissioned as home built here in Texas to keep it legal.

Stinky_Hooker

08-25-2005, 01:21 PM

I am all for seeing you do it if you are serious...just be carefull!!

PS I have often though a v20 with twin 70s or 75s would be sweeet!!

I know its only 140hp, but with two props I bet it would be a nice lil ride!! Better on gas too! ;D

Skools Out

08-25-2005, 02:07 PM

What i think would be great on any 19 to 22 foot boat would be a pair of the old Nissan 3 Cyl. 100 Hp motor. They are narrow and would be like having a 200 Hp but would have enough power at 100 hp to get you home on one if needed.

Stinky_Hooker

08-25-2005, 02:48 PM

Blue_Runner

08-25-2005, 04:33 PM

Here is a hull for one of those sets of 140's...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/CCBAW163J788_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ63726QQite mZ4570498282QQrdZ1

reelapeelin

08-26-2005, 12:06 AM

Skool, you're readin' my mind on HP, but I was thinkin' about how a pair of 100 or 115 E-Tecs would work bracketed on a full transom hull... ;) 8)...

Skools Out

08-26-2005, 01:04 AM

yeah but the bracket will add alot of tail weight in the water and the 115 is a v4 which is much heavier than the nissan inline 3 cylinders. the 115 would only be 30 more pony's and the difference in weight it may be better to have the 100's.

reelapeelin

08-26-2005, 01:28 AM

OK...that'll be one V20 w/a full transom, bracket ana double 100 E-Tec...counter-rotating, please...uh, yeah...that's to go!... ;) ;D...oh and don't forget the Norton Snaggers on the side... :o...

Skools Out

08-26-2005, 01:42 AM

may require a matching set of Highly polished Nortons for a twin boat. That's a lot of beast to hold back lol.

Skools Out

10-09-2005, 06:33 PM

well i got #2 together now see them in the pic next is to paint them. then put together #3 of my 225's.

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a46/Skools_Out/Motors/TwinsWin.jpg

macojoe

10-10-2005, 10:53 PM

I have full transom and Bracket!! But I would have to switch the bracket for a double.
If was I, I think the 2- 140's would be great!! Pleanty of power toghter or seprate!!

Skools Out

10-10-2005, 11:52 PM

yeah MJ i'm thinking 1 225 will be plenty. the cost of gas that's only 3 carbs to feed the twins are either 8 carbs to feed or 12 carbs to feed um sounds like money out the bank ugh.

macojoe

10-11-2005, 11:56 AM

one 225 will be pleanty!! But since we were talking twins , I said the 140's would be he best fit IMO.

Just FYI my stainless marine bracket is 1/2 alum. and is only 230 pounds. and this is with full swim platform, you can get them with out the platforn just a hair over 100 pounds.

reelapeelin

10-11-2005, 02:01 PM

I wish I coulda got that '82 I/O that sold for $866 the other day...that hull w/a bracket and two new 130 E-Tecs (only 375lbs ea), pulpit like MJ's and a lightweight rigid top would make a nice package... 8)...IMHO

macojoe

10-11-2005, 04:07 PM

Yea I have a great Pulpit!! Maybe I will get to use it some day??
i took the boat out 5 times all year, and have not been out since June :'( I started putting the boat away for the winter now. all I have left is fog the motor, the cover is already on!
O well hopefully next year will be a banner year, since I left all the fish alone this year!