Tin finally scores!

[TheTinMan]

'bout freaking time, heh?

Found a boat. 1971 Seacraft 20'. New transom the end of 05, raised to 25", new deck in 1998. Forward casting platform removed when deck was redone, big plus for us NE FF'erman. You can still get up on the fore deck to sight cast.

Motor is a 1998 Mercury 200 EFI, motor cowling was stolen and replacement is in good shape but no decals.

Leaning post, live bait well, hydraulic steering, Garmin 188c (only electronics)

Tandem aluminum trailer.

The green is the only downside I can see so far, not digging that at all! Oh well, i'll fish the hell out of it this year and possibly paint it next winter.

Boat is located in...where else??? FL of course...ROADTRIP!

Leaving tomorrow...wish me luck!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v206/Mnutz/sc1.jpg

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[TheTinMan]

a few more shots:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v206/Mnutz/sc7.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v206/Mnutz/sc6.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v206/Mnutz/sc5.jpg

livewell is rigged so it can be removed and replaced with a cooler.
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[Mulv80]

Good Luck Tin, Glad to hear you finally found a winner. Now since its not a V-20 pack your bags and leave ;D

[macojoe]

Good luck with the Green Hornet!! ;D

[rb437]

Hey Mulv wait a minute!!! If Tin goes he'll take his avitars with him!!! I think he at least deserves a vote. I say he stays! It's not like he bought a sailboat or something.

[TheTinMan]

Good Luck Tin, Glad to hear you finally found a winner. Now since its not a V-20 pack your bags and leave ;D

I'll leave....kickin and screaming the whole way!!! ;D

[TheTinMan]

Hey Mulv wait a minute!!! If Tin goes he'll take his avitars with him!!! I think he at least deserves a vote. I say he stays! It's not like he bought a sailboat or something.


Thanks rick. ;)

[TheTinMan]

Good luck with the Green Hornet!! ;D


hmmm...maybe I should change my username to that....

TheGreenHornet

[Franco]

I vote to keep Tin, his green boat - just in time for St Patty's day, and last but not least - his avitars. Nice looking ride Tin, now go fishing!

[TheTinMan]

The V20 is an awesome boat. It just didn't quite fit my needs.

My Tacoma is thanking me too. :D

[TheTinMan]

Franco, one of the big selling points of this boat for me is the flush deck from bow to stern...you know of any other boat that has that ;) ;D

[macojoe]

You can stay, and yes a V20 is alot of boat for a Yota!! Thats whats holding CB up, he looking for size that will be Yota friendly.

I have no problem with Chevy ;D

[Franco]

As a matter of fact I do, that would be the McKee Craft 196 marathon - my new boat, we bought our new boats for the same reasons!! I even like the green

[TheTinMan]

As a matter of fact I do, that would be the McKee Craft 196 marathon - my new boat, we bought our new boats for the same reasons!! I even like the green

I knew your boat did, that's why I said it!
:)

Oh....and the price is $6,500. I think I did good but also did not see the boat in person yet either. He assures me everything is in working order. I'm not expecting a mint condition boat for that price. The seller really seems like a straight shooter. I asked him if the trailer is ready for 1,000+ mile trip, if the tires and bearings are good, he said yes. Then he calls me back and says he taking the boat to have the 4 wheel bearings replaced and he'll pay for it...he just wanted to make sure I'd be alright trailering it that far!

[shicks007]

Nice work Tin! She's a bueaty. I hope you don't leave us for the classic seacraft website.

http://www.classicseacraft.com/

Scott

[Franco]

Thanks for the kudos *::) ::)

Sweet price and the guys sounds like a good egg, where ya picking it up from?

I see a Florida registration on her hull, and palm trees in the background. I knew I'd get ya'll to come to Florida!!

[TheTinMan]

Nice work Tin! She's a bueaty. I hope you don't leave us for the classic seacraft website.

http://www.classicseacraft.com/

Scott
Thanks Scott

Me and MY AVITAR will still be here!

[TheTinMan]

Guy lives in Miami but is going to Orlando for business from tomorrow thru Sunday evening. He's trailering the boat to Orlando to save me about 500 miles rountrip, nice guy.

I'm meeting him Sunday morning in Maitland. I told him I NEED a sea trial. He called back and said he found a public boat ramp (lake) 5 miles from his jobsite. ;D

[Franco]

Man, you'll be like 90 minutes west of me in Orlando, Come on buy if you get tired, thirsty or hungry!! Or you just wanna show me the new ride!!

[mirage2521]

I'll leave....kickin and screaming the whole way!!! ;D
You keep the avatars going and I will make you an co-owner of mine

[steelheader13]

It looks great, Tin. Classic Seacraft is a great boat!!

Congrats., I don't mind the rich green hull either.

[phester]

is she a potter hull?..........yidiot..........

[chumbucket]

Nice work Tin. I actually like the green hull. 8)

I've gotta give Uncle Sam $3000 next month before I can even consider looking. >:( :'( :'( :'( :-[

[TheTinMan]

Thanks guys.

Franco, wish i could stop by and do some fishing but the timing sucks. I'm in the middle of moving into a new place right now and work and...yadda yadda. It's gonna be a quick turnaround and back north:( I appreciate the invite though :)

[TheTinMan]

is she a potter hull?..........yidiot..........


but ofcourse you festering wombat!

[bigshrimpin]

Nice Boat Tin . . . I think it'll work out well for your needs.
That combo is a 50+mph rig. It'll be an easy boat to trailer with your truck too.

You should take franco up on his offer. Doing that drive down and back is real tough . . . about 20+ hours straight each way. Be careful . . . It might be worth it to stay an extra day and visit Marine Connection Liquidators with Franco.

[Blue_Runner]

Tin, the boat looks great in the pictures! I think you got a good deal. Sucks to have to spend more cash on gas, but FL is where the deals are for sure.

Be safe and report back on her condition once you get her home.

P.S. That flush front deck is sweeeeeeet!

P.S.S. The green on white looks pretty good!

[willy]

Good Luck Tin, I'm glad you finally found something that tickles your fancy.
She looks like she will be sweet for a fly fisherman, keep me in mind when you run out with her and have an opening ;D
Safe trip down and back brother.

[Mulv80]

I really like how the casting platform was removed, it will be great to fish right up to bow and have some freeboard.

[TheTinMan]

Leaving in about 30 minutes....2400 miles roundtrip...ugh!


I feel like a kid at Christmas! ;D

Just spoke with the seller....he's good to go...was worried I may have trouble with the trailer lights so he just had those replaced with new!

Hopefully it will be a smooth trip, bringint tools and a grease gun to give the brearings a shot at every fill up...figures, gas just went up yesterday >:(

[Bygracealone]

Tin,

It's so cool that this buyer is thinking about you and your safety. I had the exact opposite experience.

Hey, have a safe trip buddy. We want the next pictures we see of her to be from your home.

[reelapeelin]

Holler when you back... 8)...

[bigshrimpin]

I talked to tin yesterday . . . he's gonna have some news to post when he gets back this week!!

[Blue_Runner]

BS, you got me worried - good or bad? ???

[reelapeelin]

Don't tell me...a little green lizard's savin' him $200 on his car insurance... ;) ;D ;D ;D...buyin' a boat, he's gonna NEED it ::)...

[phester]

MAYDAY MAYDAY,TINMAN,MAYDAY MAYDAY..............

[phester]

MAYDAY MAYDAY,TINMAN,MAYDAY *MAYDAY..............
just spoke to TheTinMan,he's about 50 miles into N. Carolina w/ giant storms just to his south.....he's makin' a run for it.....hmmm wonder what he's towing?

[Skools Out]

heck it's sleeting and snowing here in NC

[willy]

Why do I get the feeling Tin is not towing a Seacraft Green Hornet back from Fla. ???

[Skools Out]

yeah Willy he's probably towing a Bayliner lmao lol ;D

[Mulv80]

I'm bettin he bought a V20 instead ;)

[phester]

Why do I get the feeling Tin is not towing a Seacraft Green Hornet back from Fla. *???
willy, you do have a cops' instincts 8) ;D

[willy]

yeah but I don't have a crystal ball, just hope he makes it back safe, towing anything in that crap is dangerous. If you here from him and he needs a place to stop in Jersey let me know and he's got it here ;)

[phester]

just had him on the cell and then lost him,he's got about 75 miles left in NC, said it was just raining, slowed things up a little,but , no worries ;)

[willy]

OK let him know what I said if you get him again, I'll PM you my phone #

[phester]

thanks willy, will relay the message

[TheTinMan]

I'm back! Made the tow with no issues.

I did not get the Seacraft...turned out to be crap after I was assured ALL was in good shape. I'd really rather not get into details...let's just say I was badly misled by the owner.

The boat I did end up buying is AWESOME!

Battery to camera is charging and will post some soon.

Any guesses??? ;D

[Airslot]

Good lord, driving over a grand to be misled, ouch. Can't wait to see what ya got.

Airslot

[Bygracealone]

I guess we read the seller's actions wrongly. Figures! Apparently, he was jumping through hoops to make you feel so good about the deal that he was hoping you'd feel obligated to take her, especially after that long drive. Well, good for you bro. I'm glad you didn't fall for it.

I'm no gambler, but if I were a bettin' man, I'd be bettin' you got yourself a boat we would all like. Perhaps... A V20!!! ??? ::)

Glad you made it home safe and sound Tin. C'mon, hurry up with the pics already. Inquiring minds want to know... :)

[Bygracealone]

Tin,

Is it, naaah... Could it be??? Is it that sweet looking 1989 Steplift, 5.7 Mercruiser I/O that was just posted in the gallery?

SWEET!!! Congratulations man!

[Blue_Runner]

Crap man! I'm speechless....what the he11 could you have found down there on such short notice? ???

[TheTinMan]

Here's a teaser!

:o
2004 Tandem Aluminum Nextrail w/torsion suspension and disk brakes and 6,000lb. capacity!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v206/Mnutz/IMG_2729Medium.jpg

[Bygracealone]

Hmmm... I guess I was wrong :(

Who does that 1989 Steplift, 5.7 Mercruiser I/O belong to then?

Anyway, c'mon already Tin. Let's see what ya' got!!!

[TheTinMan]

OK...This shot will give it away!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v206/Mnutz/IMG_2736Medium.jpg


She's a 1990 V20 Sport, 1999 Mercury 200 EFI. AM/FM/CD w/4 speakers, VHF, Spreader lights, raw water washdown, livewell, Garmin Map/finder and a spare GPS. Original owner and very nicely maintained. I lucked out on this boat after the fiasco with the Seacraft.

[Airslot]

Droollllllllllllllllllllllllling

Airslot

[Bygracealone]

Wahoooooo!!!! :o :o :o

VERY NICE!!!! What a package; trailer and boat!

[Skools Out]

nice rig ;D

but thought you didn't want a boat with a t-top???

[TheTinMan]

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The Yota handled the tow like a champ!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v206/Mnutz/IMG_2735Medium.jpg

[TheTinMan]

nice rig ;D

but thought you didn't want a boat with a t-top???

There seems to be enough room to fly cast with the T-Top....going to try it for awhile, if not....T-Top for sale!

Plus....keeping the Tin boat and rigging it for the shallows.

[Skools Out]

what did she cost ya? she is a nice looking ride

[willy]

What a beaut Tin, gorgeous ;)
I like it a lot better than the green hornet anyhow, and I think you will to.
Good luck with it brother ;D

[TheTinMan]

Thanks guys! ;D

Willy, Phester told me about your offer and I really appreciate it...I just wanted to get home...was a loooong few days but well worth it!

[willy]

Figured, I know the feeling, rather stay awake and get it done, glad you and the V made it safe. You did good ;)

[chumbucket]

Nice find Tin.

How'd the 'yota do pulling that? Any second thoughts about continuing to tow it with this truck? Just curious since that's one of my dilema's too. I've got an '04 X-tra Cab 4X4 Auto V6.

[willy]

CB, just so you know I had your truck, best off road truck there is in my mind, and I towed a 5000 lbs camping trailer with it.
It should tow a loaded V20 no problem, especially if it has its own brakes. That was my only concern with it.

[TheTinMan]

Nice find Tin.

How'd the 'yota do pulling that? Any second thoughts about continuing to tow it with this truck? Just curious since that's one of my dilema's too. I've got an '04 X-tra Cab 4X4 Auto V6.

Did pretty well, better than I thought it would. On hills it's a pretty big strain. I was concerned about the tranny but it did fine. I think I will be fine towing locally, ramps are all fairly close to me. If you have a longer tow and hills it may be too much. I'm going to be installing a tranny cooler too. The trailer is awesome! Torsion suspension works great as do the disk brakes, stopping didn't even feel as there was a boat behind you!

[Blue_Runner]

;D I knew you couldn't resist a V20 Tin ;)

Did you do a sea trial on the V20? What about the Seacraft? Was the owner pissed?

Also, what was wrong with the Seacraft that the pictures didn't show ???

[chumbucket]

Not too many hills around here, so I guess I'd be okay.
I agree with the 4X4 capabilities willy. ;)
Towing that rig back from FL puts my mind at ease. Thanks bro.
Best of luck with the new boat. 8)

[Pipe_Dream]

Way to go, Tin -- she looks great! 8) May you both be very happy for years to come.

All you fellow Yota owners, check out this website for any mods you have planned for your truck, as well as other fun stuff (I may have mentioned this before -- forgive me if it's a repost):

www.yotatech.com

I own an old V-20 and an old Yota -- and I feel like a rich man! ;D

[Mac_Attack]

Nice recovery Tin! Travel 1000mi for one boat and come back with a very nice V20. I know you will enjoy the boat. Tell us the story on how you made the switch. Bill Mc ;D

[phester]

I admire TheTinMan for exercising a good deal of restraint in dealing w/ the owner of the Seacraft......I woulda had a tough time NOT takin' a swing at him......

[bigshrimpin]

Tin - That's a hell of a plan B . . . You did the right thing down there in the land of cheap boats. Good Work . . . You'll love it!! Glad you made it back safely.

Just remember 4wd Low pulling her up the ramp :)

[reelapeelin]

HOMERUN, Tin!!!...nice BMT Combo 8)...I'm like Mac...what's the story on findin' the V20 on short notice??...methinks there's more here than meets the eye ::)...

HIGH FIVER on dodgin' the green BULLET :P...

[TheTinMan]

Guess you could say I was lucky. After the Seacraft episode, I was fit to be tied! I drove to Bradenton to check out an 18SC, not for me. I was thinking of bringing the laptop and decided there was no need....WRONG! I could have searched from the hotel room. Instead, I had phester on the phone checking boat listings for me. I did buy a boatrader mag and the Center Console was in there and boatrader.com. I called the guy to tell him my situation and that I only brought so much money to buy the other boat (which was quite a bit less than he was asking). He said he could only go down so much. I said I understand and thought I would at least ask. Awhile later I was on the phone with the guy in Bradenton and the guy with the V20 called and left a message, he said he wanted to talk and see if I would like to at least the boat. The boat was located in Ocala, not too far out of the way heading home. Seller was a real good dude, beautiful home, nice vehicles, huge diesel pusher motorhome, immaculate garage, you could tell he kept all his stuff nice. I checked out the boat and said it was beautiful but I didn't have the money....long story short...he came down, I came up...I got boat!

What turned out to be a nightmare, ended up a wet dream!

[TheTinMan]

Thanks All....especially Bigshrimpin and Phester for helping a brother out in a time of need.

NOW LET'S WARM UP AND GET FISHIN ALREADY!!! ;D :D :D ;D :D :D

[TheTinMan]

I guess we read the seller's actions wrongly. Figures! Apparently, he was jumping through hoops to make you feel so good about the deal that he was hoping you'd feel obligated to take her, especially after that long drive. Well, good for you bro. I'm glad you didn't fall for it.


First thing I see when I walk up to the boat is a badly redone transom. Outside of the transom was uneven, wavy, a slight crack already. According to him transom was redone from the front side??? Next, I look at a huge puddle of lower unit oil on the pavement! He has an estimate on $300 to fix that (no mention of that at all previously....was told it was a "Low hour motor") If you take the lower unit and move it back and forth there was a lot of play in the pivot shaft (not sure what you call it). I was pissed, said "low hour motors don't have play like that!" Motor was sprayed black under the cover and all over the outside and shaft and lower unit, runs all over the place. Even painted over corrosion on the lower unit! The paint job on the boat was just as bad if not worse. I specifially asked about the quality of the paint job. Was told there was 1 run.....The WHOLE freaking boat had runs all over it....that is where the paint stayed on, there were many areas where the green came off and the original yellow could be seen. The transom was several shades of green different than the rest and was painted with a brush!

In the pics you can see the deck drains in the stern on either side of that hatch. They drain right into the bilge, no longer self bailing!

The straw that broke the camels back for me was when I crawled under the trailer and saw 2 wheels that had the bearing seals falling out and grease all over! These were supposed to be brand new, just installed bearings, remember? I really don't think that trailer would have made the long tow. I was able to wobble one wheel with the weight of the boat still on the trailer! Was assured all 4 tires were good, 2 were just about bald and 2 were fair at best. Looking straight back at the trailer wheels, on one side the after wheel was tilted, not in line with the front wheel! He tells me it's the way he's parked, he's parked on a flat paved parking lot????

I never even hooked up my compression tester, at that point it didn't matter.

Right before I left NY, I called and to make sure I wasn't going to be dissapointed and that everything is as good as he described. I was assure it was. He could have taken pictures of the problem areas, but decided to "hide" those.

I leaned a lesson big time! I'm just so happy in the end it turned out great. If I came home without a such a great boat, you probably would have seen me on CNN. :o :o :o

[reelapeelin]

Hey Tin...did the guy you got the V20 from know about out little community here?... 8)...he would make an excellent contributor to the board's well of knowledge... ;)...heck, he'd probably see how much fun we're havin' here and run out and buy another one!!

Remember me ''stalking'' you and what I was sayin' to ya at the time?...guess what? ;)...

[bigshrimpin]

Tin - It makes a great story . . . Ups and downs, the tragic figure . . . and a wonderful happy ending. You did damn good!!

[macojoe]

Now that you towed a V20 with the Yota, I belive you have CB thinking again? Now that he can tow one.

Great story Good Luck!!

[TheTinMan]

Remember me ''stalking'' you and what I was sayin' to ya at the time?...guess what? ;)...

Funny....I was just telling phester about that today, lol......"You know what to get"...I remember...and you were right!

Phester just pulled out my driveway. He came out this morning for the maiden voyage, which didn't start off too good. Had the batteries on a trickle charge all night. Wouldn't start this morning, cranked slow, then just clicks....nada.....BAH!! Thought maybe the batteries were shot. Got the meter out and starting battery has 14.3 volts. Won't turn over, just solonoid clicking. Checked the volts at the solonoid, only like 10 volts...hmmmm.

The problem had to be between the batteries and solonoid. Only thing it could be I thought was the battery switch. Unmounted the switch, turned it over.....bad corrosion, one wire broke off very easily. Wired the starter battery directly to solonoid and fired right up!
A new swithch and a couple of wires and I'll be good to go.

We couldn't stand just listening to the motor run on the muffs...so we hooked her up the Yota and headed for the ramp in Mattituck on the Long Island Sound side. Had a nice cruise out to the inlet...wind NNW at 25 kts. Had to see how she'd do. 3-4's with an occasional 5 footer, took some spray....brrrrr...at 40 degrees. She gets up and goes like a scalded ape!

Got back to the ramp, phester backed down Yota and I drove right up all the way...gotta love bunk trailers!

What started off as an agravating day turned out great...probably the last time the "V" will get wet with out fishing rods on board though.

Here's a couple pics of some die hard boaters:

Tin:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v206/Mnutz/IMG_2740Medium.jpg

Phester:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v206/Mnutz/IMG_2738Medium.jpg

Stinky!!! Is that you?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v206/Mnutz/IMG_2739Medium.jpg

[Franco]

Hey Tin, nice ride. If ya get daown this way again, stop on in!

[TheTinMan]

Hey Tin...did the guy you got the V20 from know about out little community here?... 8)...he would make an excellent contributor to the board's well of knowledge... ;)...heck, he'd probably see how much fun we're havin' here and run out and buy another one!!.

RAP....never heard of us. I did tell him about the site and all you crazies!;D He was surprised there was a site for V20's
;D

[reelapeelin]

Good you told him...maybe he'll show up...sounds like he may know a thing or three about keepin' V20s in top shape... 8)...

Above you said; "...all you crazies." I'm sure you really meant to say; "...all US crazies."... ;D ;D

Hey Phester...sounds like a good sea-trial...Tin got himself a goodun!!... ;) ;D 8)

[willy]

Back to the matter at hand, Tin looks like you found a good one, good luck and good sailing ;D