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Skools Out
04-26-2006, 12:26 PM
Hope this helps you all find best gas deals
http://www.automotive.com/gas-prices/
for the NC boys this is a better site to find cheap gas I use it all the time.
http://www.northcarolinagasprices.com/
reelapeelin
04-26-2006, 01:37 PM
Skools, looks like ya'll around our prices...I found $2.68 yesterday @ Sonoco...good news/bad news...$2.81 out around mall on west side of Sptbg...
macojoe
04-26-2006, 04:47 PM
$2.89 all around me, thats .04 more then I payed last week at the very station they say to go to.
Mac_Attack
04-26-2006, 05:20 PM
http://www.gasbuddy.com
Pipe_Dream
04-26-2006, 06:05 PM
Excerpts from a USA Today piece:
Gas use last month was 0.6% less than a year ago, the American Petroleum Institute reported, because "high fuel prices have led to decreased demand for gasoline and other refined oil products."
Cutting back just a little more could cause gasoline prices — which average $2.801 nationwide, up 57.7 cents from last year, according to motorist organization AAA — to drop dramatically, one veteran analyst says.
"If everyone decided to drive 3% less the next 30 days, prices would crash," says Tom Kloza, senior analyst at the Oil Price Information Service.
He doubts that Americans could manage that — "We know how well appeals to personal sacrifice work" — but still foresees less-than-normal growth in gasoline consumption this year.
Fuel conservation might be short-lived. For one thing, prices are likely to drop. EIA says, "Significant increases in gasoline production ... over the next several weeks should stem the rise in gasoline prices and may, actually, cause them to decline somewhat."
EIA says, "While the average U.S. price of regular gasoline could reach $3 per gallon sometime this year, that outcome is by no means a foregone conclusion."
History shows that as long as gasoline is available, at whatever price, Americans tend to adjust to the price and resume their previous driving habits.
-- end of article.
So, if gas is up an average of $0.58 a gallon from last year, and I fill up my big-a$$ Suburban with 28 gallons a week, that's $16 more a week than last year, and $832 more per year.
On a really good summer weekend I might run my boat 8 hours. Since I burn an average of 7 gallons an hour, that additional $0.58 per gallon will cost me $32 more than it did last year.
Guys, I am a working joe. I do not have $$$ to burn. But while I will definitely try to be more fuel conservative, I'm not going to spend any more time dwelling on it because I can't do anything about it! Washington DC cannot do anything about it, you can't blame them for bad economic conditions anymore than you can credit them for good economic conditions.
There . . . I am climbing down off my box . . . again. :-X
;) Now go fish!
reelapeelin
04-26-2006, 06:14 PM
Hey Pipe...how's gas prices on ''the Head?" ???...ya'll must be takin' a BEATIN' on the island... :P...it's .78/gal in Kuwait and .91/gal in Saudi Arabia... ;) ;D...
Pipe_Dream
04-26-2006, 06:58 PM
$2.77 to $2.89, not that I'm watching or anything. * ;) ::)
Besides, who wants to live in Kuwait or SA?
;D
macojoe
04-26-2006, 09:27 PM
Well if the USA didn't go around blowing there own horn, we are the richest, we are the most powerful, and playing the worlds police and telling other countrys what to do and not to do, Then maybe we be alright now??
You play the bully be ready to get beat, all bullys do in time one way or the other!!
Ever hear don't bite the hand that feeds you
There I said it.
phatdaddy
04-26-2006, 11:34 PM
$2.93 to 3.02 here in north fl. It always is a little higher during the summer because of tourist. We burn about 50 gallons a week in vehicles and 20 in the boat. I do service calls on irrigation systems, so i can pass the cost on to the consumer pretty quick. The sad part is if you are an hourly employee, you have to earn 6 bucks to pay 3 at the pump.
Pipe_Dream
04-27-2006, 12:42 AM
Actually, I think it may be them biting the hand that feeds. It's all that terrorism is financed by us, buying oil from them. Just read a book about it, I'll post up an excerpt. ;)
We need to look at using less oil as a way to beat them.
But I do agree we stick our nose where it doesn't belong -- a lot.
reelapeelin
04-27-2006, 08:56 AM
phat, you say gas always goes up because of tourists...actually it goes up because of GREED on the part of dealers and distributors in your area... Myrtle Beach in SC does same...when it goes up nationwide it's the GREED of suppliers, oil cos and speculators...and of course the politicians in bed w/ 'em... ::)...
I know the ''easy oil'' is gone and it's more expensive to find, produce, ship, etc, but if they can get it outta the ground, refine it and get it to the pumps for < $1.00 Gal in middle east, it shouldn't be more than $2.00 here... ::)...we're bein' HOSED in more ways than one at the pump!!... :(...
TheTinMan
04-27-2006, 09:52 AM
From the NY Times today:
WASHINGTON, April 26 — As anxiety spread in Congress on Wednesday over soaring oil prices, lawmakers in both parties said they were ready to take a tough look at oil and gas incentives they passed as recently as eight months ago.
Citing record industry profits and huge executive pay packages, the top Republican and top Democrat on the Senate Finance Committee asked the Internal Revenue Service to turn over tax returns for the nation's 15 biggest oil and gas companies.
Leading Republicans echoed President Bush's call Tuesday to trim about $2 billion in tax breaks Congress passed as part of the energy bill last August. Several prominent Democrats, not to be outdone, pushed for repealing oil and gas tax breaks worth more than $10 billion over the next five years.
"Nobody has any sympathy for oil companies on Capitol Hill right now," said Representative Jack Kingston, Republican of Georgia and vice chairman of the House Republican Conference. "You talk to someone driving to work in an F-150 pickup and paying $75 to fill up his tank, and everybody's on his side."
Both parties jockeyed for political advantage even as they were grasping for ideas. Most experts contend that the government has few options that would quickly reduce gasoline prices, and competing party agendas could block Congressional agreement on any meaningful legislation.
Lawmakers have introduced more than 30 energy bills in the last several months. But they reflect often -conflicting goals of reducing prices, increasing production and soothing consumer anger about oil industry profits.
Democrats called for a 60-day halt on collecting federal gasoline taxes, which are 18.4 cents a gallon, but they were openly split about the more radical step of imposing a windfall profits tax on major oil companies. For their part, many Republicans are torn between wanting to show their sympathy for consumers and maintaining their longstanding support for the oil industry.
"Nobody's happy with gasoline prices being where they are," said Representative Joe L. Barton, Republican of Texas and chairman of the House Energy and Commerce Committee, who last year championed scores of new tax breaks for the industry.
Congressional Republican leaders are negotiating with White House officials over a bill to expand on Mr. Bush's proposals for alternative fuels and conservation, but disarray among lawmakers was evident across Capitol Hill.
The energy industry is also politically divided. Most big integrated oil companies, like Exxon Mobil and Chevron, have shown no interest in defending the $2.7 billion in tax breaks in last year's energy bill.
But the hundreds of smaller independent producers want to preserve as many incentives as possible. In singling out tax and spending incentives to be eliminated, Mr. Bush did not criticize a new expansion of tax write-offs for smaller oil refineries.
"The big companies don't want them, don't need them and are not asking for them," said J. Robinson West, chairman of PFC Energy, an oil industry consulting firm. But the smaller independents, he said, "are not going to give up easily."
The Congressional Joint Committee on Taxation estimated Tuesday that oil and gas companies would receive about $10 billion in tax breaks over the next five years that are specifically aimed at their industry.
Most of those tax breaks have been around for many years. They allow energy companies to take substantial write-offs on their investments in new equipment and hefty "depletion allowances" as companies use up the oil and gas in a particular field.
Neither Mr. Bush nor Republican leaders in Congress have suggested an attack on the industry's main tax breaks. Nor are they proposing to trim back tax incentives written primarily for industry in general that also benefit major oil companies.
One obscure tax cut, for example, included in a 2004 law to promote domestic manufacturing, is expected to save energy companies at least $3.6 billion over the next decade. ConocoPhillips, which earned $13.5 billion in 2005, saved $106 million last year on that provision, which reduces the corporate tax rate on profits on goods produced in the United States.
President Bush and Congressional leaders are focusing on about $2 billion in tax breaks in last year's energy bill. Among other things, those tax breaks let companies write off in just two years the geology studies associated with exploration. For decades, the courts and the I.R.S. have said that these are capital investments that can be written off only slowly, as oil is produced from the fields.
Mr. Bush also called for repealing several hundred million dollars in subsidies, also in the energy bill, for an industry-run deepwater drilling research center in Sugar Land, Tex. That project's biggest champion was Representative Tom DeLay, the former House majority leader whose district includes Sugar Land.
Many Democrats had opposed the new tax breaks all along, and Senate Democrats pushed for a provision that would trim them in a broader tax bill that the Senate passed last fall. But that provision was not approved by the House.
On Wednesday, leading Republicans made it clear they were now willing and even eager to eliminate some of those tax breaks.
"I am happy to repeal tax breaks for the development of oil in foreign countries," said Senator Pete V. Domenici, Republican of New Mexico and chairman of the Senate Energy and Natural Resources Committee. "I cannot support the concept of tax breaks for oil companies while some American families are searching their budgets for the extra cash they need to fill their gas tanks."
But Republican lawmakers want to combine their seemingly tough new stance with measures to increase production. High on the list is a new attempt to open the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge to exploration.
Democrats are focusing more on taking things away from the industry. Senator John Kerry of Massachusetts proposed legislation this week to repeal all tax breaks for oil drilling and production — about $10 billion over the next five years.
Senator Ron Wyden, Democrat of Oregon, proposed a measure to force energy companies to pay royalties to the government on all oil and gas they produce on federal leases in the Gulf of Mexico, if the price of crude oil is above $55 a barrel. Some energy companies are now allowed "royalty relief" expected to total about $7 billion over the next five years.
The mounting suspicion of oil companies was apparent in a letter to the I.R.S. from Senator Charles E. Grassley, the Iowa Republican who is chairman of the Finance Committee, and Senator Max Baucus of Montana, the committee's senior Democrat. They demanded that the I.R.S. let them review the past five years of tax returns filed by the nation's 15 biggest oil companies.
The senators pointedly noted an "extremely lucrative retirement plan by one oil and gas industry executive" — an allusion to Lee R. Raymond, former chairman of Exxon Mobil, who received $398 million in compensation on retiring last year.
"We're seeing record profits and significant executive compensation in the oil and gas industry," Mr. Grassley said. "I want to make sure the oil companies aren't taking a speed pass by the tax man."
Red Caveney, president of the American Petroleum Institute, which represents the large oil companies, said his group would not fight to retain the newest tax breaks.
"We understand the frustration that consumers have expressed about energy prices," Mr. Caveney told reporters on Wednesday.
reelapeelin
04-27-2006, 10:57 AM
Reading's post above points out that congress either doesn't get it or believes we are just a bunch of fools...if the tax breaks, royalty exclusions and other "subsidies" are taken away, it will SHRINK the oil cos bottom line, which will cause them to RAISE PRICES at the pumps to compensate...they won't just ''suck it up", they'll pass it along to me and you...just another "shake-down" of the taxpayers in the guise of gov't looking out for it's citizens...whoever the "INCUMBENT" is in the upcoming elections, forget party loyalty (do you really believe they have any "loyalty" for you?) VOTE HIM/ HER OUT...we need to send a message ;)...
finntastic
04-27-2006, 03:13 PM
They are all crooks, in it together, nothing they do short of caping the prices which interferes with private companies. The prices are what they are! Humm maybe the govt should interfere! They can't do anything else right! Its like everything is going up, jobs going south, illegals coming north and have rights. This country and I am sorry to say cuz I am ex millitary is going to hell in a hand basket!
Question to ponder, why are we spending so much money on space exploration with nothing to gain, use the money to subsidise fuel..How many billions have we and are we wasting on space, who cares whats out there!
Franco
04-27-2006, 03:32 PM
EVER HEARD OF TEFLON, VELCRO, CARBON FIBER AND DOZENS OF OTHER SPINOFF PRODUCTS THAT HAVE COME FROM THE SPACE PROGRAM. PLUS THEY ARE SO COOL TO SEE WHEN LAUNCHED. MAYBE WE COULD ONE DAY USE THE SPACE PROGRAM TO LAUNCH CROOKED POLITICIANS AND ROBBER BARRON CEO'S TO MARS!!
Blue_Runner
04-27-2006, 03:43 PM
Why not free up our space here on earth by putting prison folk in space station prisons. All they need is 3 hots and a cot. They don't need all these expensive luxuries like dirt, water, and and atmosphere!?! Do they? ;D
reelapeelin
04-27-2006, 03:54 PM
I say put 'em to WORK!!...air-conditioning, TV, libraries and work-out facilites doesn't sound like punishment to me...better than lot of have on the outside...shackle 'em w/gps trackers and let 'em clean up the roadsides the moron litter-bugs abuse >:(...
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