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skmag357
06-12-2006, 10:37 AM
Hey guys,
new to the site. Just wanted to ask if any has a late 70s V-20 CC? I am looking at one right now and was wondering what I should watch for? What are some typical failures of these boats? I would guess gas tanks and wet stringers. Can anyone else provide me with any and all info you have on this boat? thank you in advance!

skmag357
06-12-2006, 10:37 AM
Hey guys,
new to the site. Just wanted to ask if any has a late 70s V-20 CC? I am looking at one right now and was wondering what I should watch for? What are some typical failures of these boats? I would guess gas tanks and wet stringers. Can anyone else provide me with any and all info you have on this boat? thank you in advance!

skmag357
06-12-2006, 10:45 AM
also forgot to ask. What is a ball park figure for the boat with a mid 90s engine and a few electronics? thanks

skmag357
06-12-2006, 10:45 AM
also forgot to ask. What is a ball park figure for the boat with a mid 90s engine and a few electronics? thanks

labii
06-12-2006, 03:29 PM
I have an 1994 which is the same boat witha different console +/- and I love it. I would take a close look at the transom and look for any signs of rot . That is an area where you often find a problem . It's not that big a deal if the price is right , just a pain and about $2k unless you are very handy .

labii
06-12-2006, 03:29 PM
I have an 1994 which is the same boat witha different console +/- and I love it. I would take a close look at the transom and look for any signs of rot . That is an area where you often find a problem . It's not that big a deal if the price is right , just a pain and about $2k unless you are very handy .

reelapeelin
06-12-2006, 05:02 PM
skmag357...gotta look at the whole package; solid floor, solid transom; consistant compression numbers from all cylinders...in general how's it been kept...trailer and what kinda shape it's in... the rig you describe could go for anywhere from 4-6 Gs...maybe more if it's a real ''gleemer''...less if it's dirty...got any pics you can post for us to look at?...

reelapeelin
06-12-2006, 05:02 PM
skmag357...gotta look at the whole package; solid floor, solid transom; consistant compression numbers from all cylinders...in general how's it been kept...trailer and what kinda shape it's in... the rig you describe could go for anywhere from 4-6 Gs...maybe more if it's a real ''gleemer''...less if it's dirty...got any pics you can post for us to look at?...

skmag357
06-12-2006, 06:41 PM
http://www.myfishpix.com/gallery/data/538/Wellcraft1.jpg

http://www.myfishpix.com/gallery/data/538/wellcraft3.jpg

http://www.myfishpix.com/gallery/data/538/Wellcraft2.jpg

http://www.myfishpix.com/gallery/data/538/wellcraft6.jpg

skmag357
06-12-2006, 06:41 PM
http://www.myfishpix.com/gallery/data/538/Wellcraft1.jpg

http://www.myfishpix.com/gallery/data/538/wellcraft3.jpg

http://www.myfishpix.com/gallery/data/538/Wellcraft2.jpg

http://www.myfishpix.com/gallery/data/538/wellcraft6.jpg

skmag357
06-12-2006, 06:42 PM
let me know what you think. I think its a sweet looking rig. Could I put a T-top on it? how much would you pay? thanks.

skmag357
06-12-2006, 06:42 PM
let me know what you think. I think its a sweet looking rig. Could I put a T-top on it? how much would you pay? thanks.

steelheader13
06-12-2006, 07:43 PM
I bought a 1985 CC. 1998 Johnson 175 HP with 475 hours on engine (checked on computer at mechanics shop), dual axle trailer (lasted a year and a half) been replaced now, outriggers, bimini top, GPS, FF, VHF, amfm stereo, anchor etc. ~ overall in fair/good condition and paid $5,900 two years ago.

I now have 680 hours on engine and a new trailer and a few upgrades, downrigger, color FF new leaning post and some minor work I have done and it is still probably only worth $5,900. Boats are not great money making investments, but if you get some use out of them, they are worth it in my opinion.

Good luck with your purchase. Motor is very important and try and take that to a shop to get it looked at by your mechanic. Bottom paint on that hull may mean that it was stored in the water at some point of its life, which is hard on any boat. Fresh water use is better than salt of course.

What are they asking for that boat and do you get any electronics?

here is mine.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v330/steelheader13/1985wellcraft3.jpg

steelheader13
06-12-2006, 07:43 PM
I bought a 1985 CC. 1998 Johnson 175 HP with 475 hours on engine (checked on computer at mechanics shop), dual axle trailer (lasted a year and a half) been replaced now, outriggers, bimini top, GPS, FF, VHF, amfm stereo, anchor etc. ~ overall in fair/good condition and paid $5,900 two years ago.

I now have 680 hours on engine and a new trailer and a few upgrades, downrigger, color FF new leaning post and some minor work I have done and it is still probably only worth $5,900. Boats are not great money making investments, but if you get some use out of them, they are worth it in my opinion.

Good luck with your purchase. Motor is very important and try and take that to a shop to get it looked at by your mechanic. Bottom paint on that hull may mean that it was stored in the water at some point of its life, which is hard on any boat. Fresh water use is better than salt of course.

What are they asking for that boat and do you get any electronics?

here is mine.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v330/steelheader13/1985wellcraft3.jpg

reelapeelin
06-12-2006, 09:44 PM
sk...looks pretty good...THINK that's the 1st year they went to belly tank...is it 40 gals or 60?...hope 60...how did the lower unit and compression check out?...if all's well, she oughtta SKOOT!!...as long as no major probs, I'd try to get it around 4, but go high 4s if ya really want it...trailer looks OK...how are tires/ bearings?...what's the guy askin'??...

reelapeelin
06-12-2006, 09:44 PM
sk...looks pretty good...THINK that's the 1st year they went to belly tank...is it 40 gals or 60?...hope 60...how did the lower unit and compression check out?...if all's well, she oughtta SKOOT!!...as long as no major probs, I'd try to get it around 4, but go high 4s if ya really want it...trailer looks OK...how are tires/ bearings?...what's the guy askin'??...

skmag357
06-13-2006, 11:41 AM
The motor is a 91, trailer is a 99 but he won't give me compression numbers or hours for the motor. Makes me VERY wary about it. He says it still has original tanks in it so what are the chances that they are bad? Comes with fish finder and radio. He wants 4500 for it. I was going to offer 3500 but he won't give me those numbers. Just says come and look at it but its a 100 mile drive one way to take a look. oh well....maybe he will get back to me

skmag357
06-13-2006, 11:41 AM
The motor is a 91, trailer is a 99 but he won't give me compression numbers or hours for the motor. Makes me VERY wary about it. He says it still has original tanks in it so what are the chances that they are bad? Comes with fish finder and radio. He wants 4500 for it. I was going to offer 3500 but he won't give me those numbers. Just says come and look at it but its a 100 mile drive one way to take a look. oh well....maybe he will get back to me

willy
06-13-2006, 12:12 PM
SK take a road trip prepared to take it home if it shakes down good, either have someone lend you the gauge and teach you to do it and do a compression test, drain some fluid from the lower unit and look at it. Or if you have a mechanic friend take him along. If not see if there is a retired mechanic guy who would take a ride and do it for you for a hundred bucks or so. Also you did not mention about a sea trial. After knowing what I know now I would not buy a boat except possibly under some extraordinary situation without a sea trial. That will tell you more in fifteen minutes on the water than just about anything else. You want that engine warmed up, you want it at max rpm for some time and checking it under load. That would be the absolute minimum I would do.
Other than that the price is good if the transom/stringers are ok. They are great boats and ride better and drier than most CC's you can buy new today.
If you are going to take it home same day prepare for the tow, find out when the last service was done to the hubs, condition of tires and the spare. And find out where there is a good trailer or parts store near by him if you need to get something done before you can leave. Bring grease gun jack etc. I have also found a super model or two is nice to have with you, relieves tension and makes the ride go by faster. ;D

willy
06-13-2006, 12:12 PM
SK take a road trip prepared to take it home if it shakes down good, either have someone lend you the gauge and teach you to do it and do a compression test, drain some fluid from the lower unit and look at it. Or if you have a mechanic friend take him along. If not see if there is a retired mechanic guy who would take a ride and do it for you for a hundred bucks or so. Also you did not mention about a sea trial. After knowing what I know now I would not buy a boat except possibly under some extraordinary situation without a sea trial. That will tell you more in fifteen minutes on the water than just about anything else. You want that engine warmed up, you want it at max rpm for some time and checking it under load. That would be the absolute minimum I would do.
Other than that the price is good if the transom/stringers are ok. They are great boats and ride better and drier than most CC's you can buy new today.
If you are going to take it home same day prepare for the tow, find out when the last service was done to the hubs, condition of tires and the spare. And find out where there is a good trailer or parts store near by him if you need to get something done before you can leave. Bring grease gun jack etc. I have also found a super model or two is nice to have with you, relieves tension and makes the ride go by faster. ;D

macojoe
06-13-2006, 12:13 PM
If he does not want to give you the numbers then screw him!!

There are plenty others around for sale!!

why no numbers?? does he have the capability?

Is it he can't or he won't??

ask him one more time, if he says he can't then, ask if you can do your own tesat.

Go to autozone and rent for free a compresion tester, and take it with you.

I he won't then say I give you $2000 and you keep the motor!!

Just remember any used more you are taking a chance !! and keep that in your mind when dealing!!

macojoe
06-13-2006, 12:13 PM
If he does not want to give you the numbers then screw him!!

There are plenty others around for sale!!

why no numbers?? does he have the capability?

Is it he can't or he won't??

ask him one more time, if he says he can't then, ask if you can do your own tesat.

Go to autozone and rent for free a compresion tester, and take it with you.

I he won't then say I give you $2000 and you keep the motor!!

Just remember any used more you are taking a chance !! and keep that in your mind when dealing!!

willy
06-13-2006, 12:14 PM
And SteelHeader that is a pretty rig, very nice set up ;)

willy
06-13-2006, 12:14 PM
And SteelHeader that is a pretty rig, very nice set up ;)

Blue_Runner
06-13-2006, 12:18 PM
Good sound advice there from Willy and MJ ;)

Blue_Runner
06-13-2006, 12:18 PM
Good sound advice there from Willy and MJ ;)

chumbucket
06-13-2006, 03:09 PM
After being so reluctant to supply compression results, if he gave them to you now, would you have much faith that they were accurate? The only way to be sure is to test it yourself. Make the trip. But make it with the realization that you may go home with nothing in tow. Don't be too anxious to buy just because it looks nice and you drove the distance to look at it.

Patience Grasshopper. 8)

chumbucket
06-13-2006, 03:09 PM
After being so reluctant to supply compression results, if he gave them to you now, would you have much faith that they were accurate? The only way to be sure is to test it yourself. Make the trip. But make it with the realization that you may go home with nothing in tow. Don't be too anxious to buy just because it looks nice and you drove the distance to look at it.

Patience Grasshopper. 8)

Mac_Attack
06-13-2006, 04:14 PM
Three years ago I traveled 170 miles to inspect the Mac Attack. It had a Force 150 that people advised me to stay away from. My brother in law and I went there and forgot the compression tester on first trip. The boat was really clean and well taken care of made an offer contingent on comp tests. Checked out OK and here we are. He may not be mechnically inclined. Take the trip ask Tin what happened to him. Bill Mc ;D

Mac_Attack
06-13-2006, 04:14 PM
Three years ago I traveled 170 miles to inspect the Mac Attack. It had a Force 150 that people advised me to stay away from. My brother in law and I went there and forgot the compression tester on first trip. The boat was really clean and well taken care of made an offer contingent on comp tests. Checked out OK and here we are. He may not be mechnically inclined. Take the trip ask Tin what happened to him. Bill Mc ;D

Stinky_Hooker
06-13-2006, 09:08 PM
Steelheader....show me more pics of that leaning post. i need some ideas here.

Thanks!! 8)

Stinky_Hooker
06-13-2006, 09:08 PM
Steelheader....show me more pics of that leaning post. i need some ideas here.

Thanks!! 8)

steelheader13
06-17-2006, 09:05 AM
I sure will, I wish I would have documented the process like I did my hatch cover replacements, but I will egt some photos of the finished product for you, it came out real nice.

It used to have two crappy condition pedestal seats and the previous owner made a crappy box to fit over the pedestals, but never upholstered it. HARD RIDE. I took the box in to a local guy a couple years ago and he covered it with really thick marine ulpholstry ($100) and then this last trip the crappy box bottom was falling off, so I did a total rebuild. More to come.

steelheader13
06-17-2006, 09:05 AM
I sure will, I wish I would have documented the process like I did my hatch cover replacements, but I will egt some photos of the finished product for you, it came out real nice.

It used to have two crappy condition pedestal seats and the previous owner made a crappy box to fit over the pedestals, but never upholstered it. HARD RIDE. I took the box in to a local guy a couple years ago and he covered it with really thick marine ulpholstry ($100) and then this last trip the crappy box bottom was falling off, so I did a total rebuild. More to come.

Stinky_Hooker
06-17-2006, 11:46 PM
Thanks bro...I would love some ideas. I kinda stole this idea from a guy on EBAY. I think I will make one of these for the 150 behind the console, I use as a seat. I will raise it about 10-12" off the deck so it will be high enough for a seat and also you will be able to wash underneath it better than it sitting on the floor.

http://www.forumpictureprocessor.com/pictureprocessor/images/60_1_1.jpg

Stinky_Hooker
06-17-2006, 11:46 PM
Thanks bro...I would love some ideas. I kinda stole this idea from a guy on EBAY. I think I will make one of these for the 150 behind the console, I use as a seat. I will raise it about 10-12" off the deck so it will be high enough for a seat and also you will be able to wash underneath it better than it sitting on the floor.

http://www.forumpictureprocessor.com/pictureprocessor/images/60_1_1.jpg

phester
06-18-2006, 12:07 AM
thats a nice one,stinkman

phester
06-18-2006, 12:07 AM
thats a nice one,stinkman