Slowing down for trolling

[Sean]

I am running a 150 Mariner, and the slowest I can get it to go per my GPS is around 3.5mph. Ideally I would like to be at least 2mph, what are some ways to slow it down? Do you have it trimmed all the way up or down?
Thanks!
Sean

[Sean]

I am running a 150 Mariner, and the slowest I can get it to go per my GPS is around 3.5mph. Ideally I would like to be at least 2mph, what are some ways to slow it down? Do you have it trimmed all the way up or down?
Thanks!
Sean

[Skools Out]

tie a 5 gallon bucket to a rope and tie to a rear cleat that will slow you down enough

[Skools Out]

tie a 5 gallon bucket to a rope and tie to a rear cleat that will slow you down enough

[Sean]

What do you think about tying it off to the side? This way it will be out of the way ???

[Sean]

What do you think about tying it off to the side? This way it will be out of the way ???

[Blue_Runner]

You've got a couple of options. *You can try what skools said or a drift sock. *Both work but there's storage and deployment issues. *Forgetting to pull the bucket(s) in could result in damage to the boat or even you or a passenger.

I think the #1 way to slow down (if you don't need to sneak) is with a kicker motor. *I have a 9.9hp on a bracket and it works excellent. *Can get down to 1mph if I want to or anywhere between 1 and 2.

Now if you wanna sneak - get a nice bow mounted electric trolling motor.

Then there's trolling plates. *I've had experience with the one below on my old 17ft boat. *Its called a Hustle trolling plate. *I loved the plate. *With the springs on it you don't have to worry about engaging/disengaging anything. *Boat worked well in reverse too. *I could go as slow as I wanted using it too. *The downsides are - 1) having to drill holes in your cavitation plate 2) Its permanently mounted and alot of people ask "what's that?" 3) The springs and i-bolts are not stainless. *You can replace the i-bolts with stainless but I haven't found stainless springs to fit and they would be expensive.

Mind you I've never tried it on a V20 but I'd be willing to bet it would work great! *If I didn't have a kicker I might go that route because I like to troll flounder and trout in the creeks.
http://www.johnsonmarinesupply.com/small%20hussle.jpg
http://www.johnsonmarinesupply.com/hussle_trolling_plates.htm
Also the guy at johnson marine supply is top notch and will be happy to speak with anyone over the telephone that might have questions. *I've called him a couple of times *;)

You might also want to look into some of the other brands of trolling plates, but I looked at a lot of them and I really like the Hustle for ease of use and the hole allows you to go in reverse.

[Blue_Runner]

You've got a couple of options. *You can try what skools said or a drift sock. *Both work but there's storage and deployment issues. *Forgetting to pull the bucket(s) in could result in damage to the boat or even you or a passenger.

I think the #1 way to slow down (if you don't need to sneak) is with a kicker motor. *I have a 9.9hp on a bracket and it works excellent. *Can get down to 1mph if I want to or anywhere between 1 and 2.

Now if you wanna sneak - get a nice bow mounted electric trolling motor.

Then there's trolling plates. *I've had experience with the one below on my old 17ft boat. *Its called a Hustle trolling plate. *I loved the plate. *With the springs on it you don't have to worry about engaging/disengaging anything. *Boat worked well in reverse too. *I could go as slow as I wanted using it too. *The downsides are - 1) having to drill holes in your cavitation plate 2) Its permanently mounted and alot of people ask "what's that?" 3) The springs and i-bolts are not stainless. *You can replace the i-bolts with stainless but I haven't found stainless springs to fit and they would be expensive.

Mind you I've never tried it on a V20 but I'd be willing to bet it would work great! *If I didn't have a kicker I might go that route because I like to troll flounder and trout in the creeks.
http://www.johnsonmarinesupply.com/small%20hussle.jpg
http://www.johnsonmarinesupply.com/hussle_trolling_plates.htm
Also the guy at johnson marine supply is top notch and will be happy to speak with anyone over the telephone that might have questions. *I've called him a couple of times *;)

You might also want to look into some of the other brands of trolling plates, but I looked at a lot of them and I really like the Hustle for ease of use and the hole allows you to go in reverse.

[reelapeelin]

Trollin' lead-core we're tryin' to get slow as possible...we use TWO 5 gal buckets, one off each transom cleat...two will slow you down ALMOST one mph on GPS...good luck and let us know how it go ;) ;D ...

[reelapeelin]

Trollin' lead-core we're tryin' to get slow as possible...we use TWO 5 gal buckets, one off each transom cleat...two will slow you down ALMOST one mph on GPS...good luck and let us know how it go ;) ;D ...

[sfprovyn]

I've never been able to figure out drift socks so I use a bucket ...Frank

[sfprovyn]

I've never been able to figure out drift socks so I use a bucket ...Frank

[racerx]

here are a few ideas

http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/index/index-display.jsp?id=cat21370&navAction=jump&navCount=1& parentId=cat21276&parentType=category&cmCat=MainCa tcat21276

[racerx]

here are a few ideas

http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/index/index-display.jsp?id=cat21370&navAction=jump&navCount=1& parentId=cat21276&parentType=category&cmCat=MainCa tcat21276

[Sean]

Lead core/wire line is exactly what we are doing. Trolling Bunker Spoons and T & W along the bottom. I am going to try the "Bucket system" tomorrow and then invest in a trolling plate in the next few weeks.

This is probably a dumb question but do you drill holes in the buckets? ::)

Thanks again, I'll let you know how it turns out

[Sean]

Lead core/wire line is exactly what we are doing. Trolling Bunker Spoons and T & W along the bottom. I am going to try the "Bucket system" tomorrow and then invest in a trolling plate in the next few weeks.

This is probably a dumb question but do you drill holes in the buckets? ::)

Thanks again, I'll let you know how it turns out

[reelapeelin]

Sean...try the buckets and ya won't be out lookin' for anything else...no holes needed... ;) ...

[reelapeelin]

Sean...try the buckets and ya won't be out lookin' for anything else...no holes needed... ;) ...

[Hammerhead]

I use a 6hp Johnson mainly to save on gas. 3.5 is about slow as I ever troll tho'. Usually closer to 5 for Dolphin.

[Hammerhead]

I use a 6hp Johnson mainly to save on gas. 3.5 is about slow as I ever troll tho'. Usually closer to 5 for Dolphin.

[Sean]

Well the bucket got me basiclly were I wanted to be with minimal trouble. Although it seems I was the only one not getting fish, but thats another story.

I defenatly interested in a kicker motor but it seems I have minimal space on my transom. I was woundering what the minimal/maximum HP you guys have/are using as kickers?

[Sean]

Well the bucket got me basiclly were I wanted to be with minimal trouble. Although it seems I was the only one not getting fish, but thats another story.

I defenatly interested in a kicker motor but it seems I have minimal space on my transom. I was woundering what the minimal/maximum HP you guys have/are using as kickers?

[Sean]

here is the link to my gallerie and a picture of my transom, http://www.wellcraftv20.com/gallery/view_photo.php?set_albumName=album120&id=dscf1213

Seems small?

As alway, I apreciate the help/input
Thanks!

[Sean]

here is the link to my gallerie and a picture of my transom, http://www.wellcraftv20.com/gallery/view_photo.php?set_albumName=album120&id=dscf1213

Seems small?

As alway, I apreciate the help/input
Thanks!

[Blue_Runner]

You should be able to put a bracket there. The base on the brackets are only about 4 inches wide by like maybe 6 inches tall. Thru-bolt it on with a backing plate on the inside and seal everything up real good with some 5200.

I'd recommend 9.9 or a 15hp with a 20" shaft. The shortshaft 15" may work but I think it would come out of the water with the roll of the waves.

I have a 9.9 and it is plenty motor for me. Don't know about other models but the Johnson 9.9 and 15 are (were) the same size. I think there's a carb difference and some other things that make one 15 as oppposed to 9.9. I believe it weighs around 70 pounds, but not sure about that. It pushes the boat up to around 7 or 8 mph.

The motor I have came with the boat. The guy bought the motor on eBay. He paid $400 and some dollars for it and it runs really good.

[Blue_Runner]

You should be able to put a bracket there. The base on the brackets are only about 4 inches wide by like maybe 6 inches tall. Thru-bolt it on with a backing plate on the inside and seal everything up real good with some 5200.

I'd recommend 9.9 or a 15hp with a 20" shaft. The shortshaft 15" may work but I think it would come out of the water with the roll of the waves.

I have a 9.9 and it is plenty motor for me. Don't know about other models but the Johnson 9.9 and 15 are (were) the same size. I think there's a carb difference and some other things that make one 15 as oppposed to 9.9. I believe it weighs around 70 pounds, but not sure about that. It pushes the boat up to around 7 or 8 mph.

The motor I have came with the boat. The guy bought the motor on eBay. He paid $400 and some dollars for it and it runs really good.

[reelapeelin]

Sean, there's room to hang a kicker...ya might have to relocte the D ring...looked thru the Gallery, but can't find one like yours w/ a kicker...

[reelapeelin]

Sean, there's room to hang a kicker...ya might have to relocte the D ring...looked thru the Gallery, but can't find one like yours w/ a kicker...

[Sean]

Thanks! Now I need to find a kicker ???

[Sean]

Thanks! Now I need to find a kicker ???

[Blue_Runner]

Here's a longshaft 9.9hp just like mine...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1975-Johnson-9-9-HP-Outboard-Boat-Motor-Electric-Start_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ111122QQihZ019QQi temZ290028172846QQrdZ1

Here's another longshaft 15hp, newer, with electric start and separate set of controls *8)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1991-EVINRUDE-9-9-HP-15-HP-OUTBOARD-w-CONTROLS-N-R_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ111122QQihZ013QQitemZ 230027506732QQrdZ1

I just love spending other people's money *;D ;)

[Blue_Runner]

Here's a longshaft 9.9hp just like mine...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1975-Johnson-9-9-HP-Outboard-Boat-Motor-Electric-Start_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ111122QQihZ019QQi temZ290028172846QQrdZ1

Here's another longshaft 15hp, newer, with electric start and separate set of controls *8)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1991-EVINRUDE-9-9-HP-15-HP-OUTBOARD-w-CONTROLS-N-R_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ111122QQihZ013QQitemZ 230027506732QQrdZ1

I just love spending other people's money *;D ;)

[Sean]

Blue_Runner thanks for the links. They are a little to far for me to travel, I am in RI, but it is good to see that they are in somewhat reasonalbe price.
Just another thing to add to the, "I need this" list

[Sean]

Blue_Runner thanks for the links. They are a little to far for me to travel, I am in RI, but it is good to see that they are in somewhat reasonalbe price.
Just another thing to add to the, "I need this" list

[Blue_Runner]

That list ALWAYS has stuff on it no matter what....I bet there are things that Bill Gates boat "needs" ;D

[Blue_Runner]

That list ALWAYS has stuff on it no matter what....I bet there are things that Bill Gates boat "needs" ;D

[willy]

Nah, now your going to far Blue ;D

[willy]

Nah, now your going to far Blue ;D

[LESTERUS]

Hey Sean: Why do you want to troll so slow? do you want to catch healthy fish or handicaped fish? If you fish in salt water 1200 rpm is good.

Lesterus

[LESTERUS]

Hey Sean: Why do you want to troll so slow? do you want to catch healthy fish or handicaped fish? If you fish in salt water 1200 rpm is good.

Lesterus

[Sean]

Not for Stripers on the Tube and Worm ;D
If your not on the bottom, and under 2mph, you are waisting your time.

I am a equal opertunity guy, handicap fish need to be caught to ::)

[Sean]

Not for Stripers on the Tube and Worm ;D
If your not on the bottom, and under 2mph, you are waisting your time.

I am a equal opertunity guy, handicap fish need to be caught to ::)

[Airslot]

Yep, different tactics for different fish. We troll around 5 knots for billfish, around 7 knots for tuna, and barely 2.5 knots for rock aka striped bass. Spanish like it even faster, and hoo's, heck they get caught at 15 knots plus.

Airslot

[Airslot]

Yep, different tactics for different fish. We troll around 5 knots for billfish, around 7 knots for tuna, and barely 2.5 knots for rock aka striped bass. Spanish like it even faster, and hoo's, heck they get caught at 15 knots plus.

Airslot