OK all you Ford Diesel guys

[macojoe]

I know I give Ford guys tons of crap!!

But I am looking at new trucks, and there is nothing out there under $30,000 in a 3/4 ton Ext Cab 4X4 in Chevy
Well there is, but they have to be ordered.

Any way I have it on good source that there might be some left over 2006 F250 diesel's around for short money, mid 20's.

I have never owned a Diesel and want to know some of the maintenance issues and special things that they might need different from there Gas brothers.

Thanks

[garagenc]

Only thing with any diesel is keep the air, fuel and oil filters changed. Change oil regular. I had one that I had 375,000 on. I have gas now but I won't ever buy another gas truck.

[C YENSEN]

the only thing i can tell you is my brother and father both have deisel Rams and they love them. enough power to pull a house, and good gas mileage.

[C YENSEN]

you can probably get a 2006 Ram 1500 for less than $30,000 ;D thats what i drive ;D and love it

[Seacrets]

I've never owned a diesel but I've talked to some people that had experience with the Ford 6.0 liter and had various problems. They said it wasn't as good as the 7.3. Ford has now stopped using the 6.0 and have a new 6.4 liter for 2007.

[randlemanboater]

MJ!!!!!! A FORD??????


Plus with a diesel you get to enjoy the smell of fuel on your hand for the next 24 hrs. after you fill up.

[reelapeelin]

Diesel fuel has been and most likely will contiue to be more expensive than reg. gas...anybody wanna tell MJ what an oil-change costs on one ;) ...


The guy I run offshore with has a Power Stroke...his second, and he likes 'em a lot...tows his 28'er like a champ and a construction trailer, too...He'll probably get another when he wears this one out ;) ...

[macojoe]

Only thing with any diesel is keep the air, fuel and oil filters changed. Change oil regular. I had one that I had 375,000 on. I have gas now but I won't ever buy another gas truck.


I am up on all my maintance all the time! I really take care of my truck!!

Posted by: CYENSEN Posted on: Today at 7:36am
you can probably get a 2006 Ram 1500 for less than $30,000 Grin thats what i drive Grin and love it

Is yours diesel?

Posted by: Seacrets Posted on: Today at 8:22am
I've never owned a diesel but I've talked to some people that had experience with the Ford 6.0 liter and had various problems. They said it wasn't as good as the 7.3. Ford has now stopped using the 6.0 and have a new 6.4 liter for 2007.

I have heard stuff about one engine or another, thats why I started this thread, Thanks!!

Posted by: randlemanboater Posted on: Today at 8:29am
MJ!!!!!! A FORDHuhHuh


Plus with a diesel you get to enjoy the smell of fuel on your hand for the next 24 hrs. after you fill up.

Thats why they make rags!

Diesel fuel has been and most likely will contiue to be more expensive than reg. gas...anybody wanna tell MJ what an oil-change costs on one Wink ...


The guy I run offshore with has a Power Stroke...his second, and he likes 'em a lot...tows his 28'er like a champ and a construction trailer, too...He'll probably get another when he wears this one out Wink ...

I know it cost more, but if I am getting more MPG then it works out. alsoI hear that they have lots o power, and last 300,000 miles or better??
Inn the long run am I better off??

Thanks everyone

[randlemanboater]

The Ford 7.3 is actually an International engine. It will run trouble free for a million miles.

[Skools Out]

hey I Love my Chevy Diesel that i have 220,000 on the current one, had a 99 Dodge 2500 cummings before much better motor. I wouldn't buy a 6.0 *ford though due to tooo many problems and broken cranks. They cost more to change oil in due to most of the hold average of at least 2 gallons or more of oil. But you don't change the oil as often in them. they say 8,000 to 10,000 on oil changes unless you use syn. rot. oil then 12,000 to 15,000 mile changes. I change mine every 9,500 to 10,000 miles. Ford diesel don't get the fuel mileage that Chevy Diesel's get. Fuel filters should be changed every 15,000 miles but i change mine every oil change. You can't go wrong with a diesel. i average 21 in town and 23 hwy but in tow of the 250 i get 18 town 20 hwy. that's at 70 to 75 MPH.

[randlemanboater]

I know a guy who is a diesel fitter.

He works at a textile plant.

He takes womens panties off the assembly line, holds them up and says:

Dees 'll fit 'er!!!!

[reelapeelin]

I know a guy who is a diesel fitter.

He works at a textile plant.

He takes womens panties off the assembly line, holds them up and says:

Dees 'll fit 'er!!!!













;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ...

[Skools Out]

MJ look here ask this site I'm on they will tell you all you could ever want to know and not hear lol

http://www.dieseldoctor.com/diesel-message-board/viewforum.php?f=1

[fly944]

I wouldnt buy a Ford 6.0 either . The old 7.3s were good , but loud as hell . My first pick would be a Dodge . You cant compare the other truck engines to the Cummins . Just do a search and you will see that they come in alot of the big rigs and will last a million miles . My second pick would be the Chevy because they have the better trans out there and are said to be getting good milage . I currently own a F150 so I am not anti Ford .

[reelapeelin]

MJ...My buddy mentioned above still has his 1st one for sale...bed is used (good candidate for ''spray-in-liner"), but looks new from outside...well maintained since new...7.3/2wd...NEW tires...


Any interest?

[C YENSEN]

Posted by: CYENSEN Posted on: Today at 7:36am
you can probably get a 2006 Ram 1500 for less than $30,000 Grin thats what i drive Grin and love it



Is yours diesel?

No, mine is a Hemi! 345 horsepower and 315 foot lbs of torque. She tows the V like there is nothing behind her at all. ;D

But if you do want a deisel. The Cummins Deisel that Dodge uses is the best deisel they make. My father owns several tractor trailers, and has owned all forms of deisels (CAT, Detroit, Volvo) and her swears up and down he will never buy anything else again unless it is a Cummins. Great motor, no trouble, and cheaper to fix than a Cat or Powerstroke.

[macojoe]

Thanks all,

Reel I want a Brand New truck!!

Nothing wrong with mine its just that this is that last year I am going to have kids for my taxes, and i want a new truck while I have the money! I want it to be around for the next 10years!

07 Chevy are all around $33,000 & diesel is $40,000 or better!

I have to go $30 or below in order to be able to do it. I have heard so many good things about diesel and now there might be a few left overs for cheap?

I still hate the Idea of a Ford, and if these left overs are 6.0 I will say forget it!

I an so confused!! :-/

[Skools Out]

when you look at diesel sites the ones that have the most problems are 6.5 Turbo 94 up Chevy and 6.0 Turbo Ford. the Dodge Cummings, Ford 6.9 and 7.3 Turbo, and Chevy 6.2, 6.5 (93 Only) and 6.6 Turbo are the ones you never hear any troubles with for the most part.

The only issue with the 94 up 6.5 Chevy is the electronic injection pump are pron to die alot due to PMD over heats.

[randlemanboater]

Keep your truck, put money in boat!!!!!!!!

[C YENSEN]

MJ, you keep saying "i hate the idea of a Ford", do yourself a favor and go look at a Dodge. you will not be disappointed, ;Dand will be asking yourself.....What Chevy???? ???

[reelapeelin]

Keep your truck, put money in boat!!!!!!!!



...or send to me ;D ...




...and I hear ya on new...only down-side to new...as soon as you sign on the line, new just LOST 25% or so in depreciation ... but that's the way it goes ;) ...

[C YENSEN]

and I hear ya on new...only down-side to new...as soon as you sign on the line, new just LOST 25% or so in depreciation ... but that's the way it goes ...

Aint that the truth.

[randlemanboater]

MJ,

Find someone you know who has a dealers license, go with them to the local dealer only auto auction. Big pickups and SUV's are dirt cheep for 1 or 2 year old stuff right now. Probably get what you want for half the price of new.

[macojoe]

MJ, you keep saying "i hate the idea of a Ford", do yourself a favor and go look at a Dodge. you will not be disappointed, Grinand will be asking yourself.....What ChevyHuh? Huh

Been there done that, I use to use Dodge for work Vans when I had my biz. They were pretty good, but i have heard mostly all bad things about there trucks!! Even know a few that hve had them and they won't go back.


Posted by: randlemanboater Posted on: Today at 1:00pm
MJ,

Find someone you know who has a dealers license, go with them to the local dealer only auto auction. Big pickups and SUV's are dirt cheep for 1 or 2 year old stuff right now. Probably get what you want for half the price of new.

That takes Cash!! and I then have to wait to sell my truck.

Posted by: Skools Out Posted on: Today at 10:57am
when you look at diesel sites the ones that have the most problems are 6.5 Turbo 94 up Chevy and 6.0 Turbo Ford. the Dodge Cummings, Ford 6.9 and 7.3 Turbo, and Chevy 6.2, 6.5 (93 Only) and 6.6 Turbo are the ones you never hear any troubles with for the most part.

The only issue with the 94 up 6.5 Chevy is the electronic injection pump are pron to die alot due to PMD over heats.

Thanks skools, I will watch for that. I signed up for that site waiting for the admin to send me actavation.

[randlemanboater]

That takes Cash!! and I then have to wait to sell my truck.



Naw, the Credit Union will float you a loan.

[V20Twin]

ive been a chevy man all of my life in 2000 i went to a dodge cummins 2500 i love the truck --- good fuel mileage easy to work on and lots of power -as far as the 6.0 ford STAY AWAY i have a buddy that has 2 f250 6.0 diesels and the dealer has them more than he does

[THEFERMANATOR]

If it was me, I would stay with an early 07(built in 06). I wouldn't want to be a guinea pig for the ULSD engines with particulate filters and so on and so on. The 6.0 POWERSTROKE isn't all bad, neither is the 94+ 6.5's. As with anything there are good ones and bad one's, unfortunately those 2 experienced a higher level of bad than previuous models. If I was going new it would be GM or DODGE, but GM would be my first choice. The DMAX/ALLISON is an excellent combo that has been out long enough to prove itself reliable. There were some issues with the LLY's overheating, but the LBZ's resolved those. CUMMINS has had there share of problems with injectors and turbos as well. And FORD has come a long with the 6.0 since engines built in 01/05 on.

The biggest thing to remember is pick the one that fits you, not just the one that fits your budget. Also, you need to decide if diesel is really for you? If you don't tow much heavy(7,000+), then you may end up spending alot MORE in the long run going diesel VS gas. This just the $.02 worth of a former certified diesel tech(forced early retirement, car crash).

Try these sites for some reading; www.dieselplace.com www.thedieselstop.com .

[Airslot]

MJ, if the diesel math doesn't work out for you, I've got an 05 Chevy 2500HD Crew Cab w/ 6.0 gasser. We've had it for 16 months and 46,000 miles. The truck has been absolutely trouble free. I've towed boats as big as a GW 282Marlin w/ no problems. I would have liked to have had the oil burner, but the up front price and maintenence didn't fit with my useage and needs. Anyhow, don't forget that Chevy makes a nice gasser.

Airslot

[macojoe]

I tow the Boat all over the place in the summer!! trailer and full load got to be close to 5000#
I tow my camper about 6 to 10 times a summer and it is almost 8000# But I never go far as I don't have a truck that i feel would be good to tow long distance!

All the Chevys are $40 grand and is way to rich for me!!

I am not a huge fan of Ford, but these left overs to catch my eye!

I haven't even looked at Dodge, cause I am a Chevy guy.

[Airslot]

You'd think everybody was rich if you went to the car lots everyday. The 2500HD gasser will pull your camper anywhere you want to go. Maybe you could find an 06'?

Airslot

[macojoe]

I am so confused ???

I want a brand new for used prices.

I am a poor man in a rich mans sport.

I am a porn star with a little ____

:'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

[randlemanboater]

I'm really suprised the moderator let this thread go on so long in the wrong topic area, must have his mind on something else.

[THEFERMANATOR]

From what you say your going to tow, I think a 2500HD with a 6.0 gasser will MORE than do what you want. Start looking for a leftover 06 and use the rebates to get you where you want to be.

[David2180]

I pull my boats with a 1999 F 350 SD Crew Cab 7.3 TB Diesel love it plenty of room and power ;D Most of the time a service is around $60-70 Dollars every 5000 miles average 15 MPG

[throwback]

Had a dodge with 310,000 miles a work truck cummins diesel bullet proof. Got wrecked really miss it. My kid has a 2001 dodge diesel its an automatic trans has blown 3 gear boxes just to much torque bu t he does heavy haulin. One great truck but only with a std gearbox

[Skools Out]

mj if you go Used Ford you will have to go back to 2003 for a 7.3 that was the first yr offer for 6.0 both were avail that yr. i was looking hard for one with a 7.3 but went gas till one shows up. I want a Ford Excursion 7.3 4x4. But still love that old 6.5 Turbo in my 94 Tahoe.

[Skools Out]

hey MJ did you get your admin email? they sent mine i found it in my spam folder check there too.

[macojoe]

I just saw it but I did not go there yet. I think the fords I have heard of are 6.0's?

I have also done some 06 Chevy 2500 searches and found a few for $28,000

The Fords are suppose to be around $25,000 for the Diesel's

I am so confused!! Really I am! I have never been a fan of Ford, but do like there comfort better then Chevy, I have had both!!

But Ford gas motors suck compared to Chevy!!

And I have never owned a Diesel and I hate not knowing, cause I like to do most of my own work.

And I found a 2005 GMC 2500 with 1000 miles on it for $24.995 but I don't know what engine it has. Or whats it story??

This is going to be interesting!!

Thanks all!!

[garagenc]

Randleman I know that joke and it's great, I also know a guy who has it for a license plate in va.

[randlemanboater]

It's tough to fit in a joke with the words diesel and panties into a boat forum.

That one fit well.

[macojoe]

I am so pissed!! I was searching last night and put in a quote for a 2006 Chevy 2500 4X4 and they emailed me this morning with one that had $11,000 in rebates and would cost me $20,595

I called right away and they said they were sorry they are waiting for someone to get approved :'( >:( :( :-[

What a let down!! I told my wife I was going and then I told her its not there !!

I hate having to search and search!! I just want to go and buy!!

[reelapeelin]

Have patience, Big Guy ;) ... it just wasn't meant to be ... the right deal on the right truck will come your way :) ...heck, if not, you can always go out and KILL something >:( ...



;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ...

[macojoe]

Now thats an Idea!!

[C YENSEN]

find one yet?

[macojoe]

Couple of line out, just got a quote on chevy 2500 $23,500 going to ck it out!

[C YENSEN]

good luck!

[macojoe]

Well I have been looking and looking!~!
I have looked at new, and I have looked at some really nice used, with all the bells, But I have not bought anything yet??

I am going to continue again on Monday. :-/