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captbent
10-01-2006, 10:03 PM
WENT OUT FISHING IN THE RAIN TODAY GOT SOME SEA BASS AND A FLUKE BUT ALLSO I GOT 2 FISH I HAVE NEVER COUGHT BEFORE THEY ARE LIGHT BLUE BLACK STRIP OVER THER HEAD THEY HAVE YELLOW LINES AND A TAIL LIKE A TUNA ABOUT A 1 AND A HALF POUNDS THEY HIT MY LIVE BAIT LIKE A BLUE FISH I POST A PIC TOMARROW WHEN I GET BACK TO JERSEY HOPE SOME ONE KNOWS WHAT THEY ARE , THERE NOT ON MY NORTHEAST FISH ID CARDS
chumbucket
10-01-2006, 10:56 PM
Maybe a Spanish Mackeral ???
macojoe
10-01-2006, 11:46 PM
http://syncboard.com/albums/Fishing/Spanish_Mack.sized.jpg
charlie_the_tuna
10-02-2006, 01:56 AM
doubt he caught a spanish in RI.
chumbucket
10-02-2006, 04:48 AM
Well, doubt all you want, but they've been around up here. A guy on a fishing board MJ and I are on gets them in Martha's Vineyard here in MA.
macojoe
10-02-2006, 07:56 AM
Yep they do get them!!
TMcGovern
10-02-2006, 11:47 AM
;DThat's most def a spanish...caught many in my day
ebol5
10-02-2006, 12:15 PM
Looks like one to me too!
Blue_Runner
10-02-2006, 01:29 PM
Sounds like it might have been a Blue Runner to me *:D
http://myfwc.com/marine/FishID/images/jackblue.jpg
Also could be a bar jack - heck blue runner and bar jack may be the same - who knows?! *See the stripe at the top of this one?
http://www.thejump.net/id/more-fish/Caranx-ruber.jpg
Bar Jack Description: A mediup sized jack with a smaller mouth than other jacks. They are readily identified by this feature and the pretty stripe that runs along the top of the fish and switches to the bottom while on the tail or Caudal fin. Bar Jacks feed on smaller fish, shrimp. Bar Jacks are a sportfish and are good to eat.
Bar Jack Range: The bar jack is found from New Jersey through Bermuda, in most of the Gulf of Mexico, the Caribbean, and the West Indies. It is the most common Caranx in the West Indies and Bahamas but fairly uncommon throughout most of the Northern Gulf of Mexico. The Bar Jack prefers coral reef type structures more than other jacks.
Bar Jack Size: The Bar Jack pictured is a normal size specimen but they don't get much larger, occasionally reaching 15 pounds or so.
Bar Jack Dangers: Bar Jack in the Carribean have been know to cause ciguatera poisoning.
Another pic of a bar jack:
http://www.thejump.net/id/more-fish/bar-jack.jpg
captbent
10-02-2006, 07:52 PM
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d57/captbent/91.jpg
captbent
10-02-2006, 07:53 PM
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d57/captbent/92.jpg
captbent
10-02-2006, 07:54 PM
when they where alive they where a sky blue and deep yellow
captbent
10-02-2006, 07:59 PM
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d57/captbent/P1010014.jpg in the belly of the bigger fluke
captbent
10-02-2006, 08:00 PM
remember this is in RI at the mouth of the bay
TheTinMan
10-02-2006, 08:17 PM
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d57/captbent/91.jpg
Banded Rudderfish. ;)
http://www.usm.maine.edu/gulfofmaine-census/Docs/Reference/fishes09_27.htm
captbent
10-02-2006, 08:41 PM
THE TOP FIN LOOKS WORNG AND THE BLACK V OVER THERE HEADhttp://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d57/captbent/P1010018-1.jpg
TheTinMan
10-02-2006, 08:52 PM
Here's a better pic.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v206/Mnutz/banded_rudderfish.jpg
captbent
10-02-2006, 08:53 PM
you are right thanks
BANDED RUDDERFISH
(Seriola zonata)
OTHER NAMES: Slender Amberjack
RANGE: All Florida, the Bahamas and Caribbean.
HABITAT: Unlike the pelogic Pilotfish, the Banded Rudderfish is more coastal and prefers reef habitat. May also be found around navigation aids and in deep
channels.
DESCRIPTION: Easily confused with the Pilotfish because both have dark vertical bands, but the Banded Rudderfish is a small type of Amberjack as evidenced by the dark line through the eye, which the Pilotfish does not have.
SIZE: Usually a foot or less; grows to perhaps 2 feet.
FOOD VALUE: Excellent, particularly if large enough to render small fillets.
GAME QUALITIES: Typical of its family, the Banded Rudderfish is aggressive and will strike with abandon. Its battle is much like that of a Blue Runner tough for its size.
TACKLE AND BAITS: Seldom targeted, but if action is slow and a school presents itself, the angler can try very light spinning, baitcasting or fly outfits, with small jigs, spoons or streamer flies. Rudderfish will also take any live baitfish of suitable size, as well as live shrimp and small strips of squid or cut fish.
FISHING SYSTEMS: Drifting; Still Fishing.
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captbent
10-02-2006, 08:54 PM
and i got them in RI under a nav aid at 70 feet with live bait on the up reel at about 10-15 feet
captbent
10-02-2006, 09:00 PM
ok and now what about the fish that was in the belly of the fluke
TheTinMan
10-03-2006, 03:22 PM
ok and now what about the fish that was in the belly of the fluke
Snipefish. :)
http://www.amonline.net.au/fishes/fishfacts/fish/mscolopax.htm
Blue_Runner
10-03-2006, 03:42 PM
Good detective work fellas ;)
Stinky_Hooker
10-03-2006, 06:32 PM
I wish we had them round here. I love eating Amberjacks. Same family and all...bet they eat well.
Fun fight on light tackle too they would be. ;D
captbent
10-03-2006, 07:15 PM
THANKS EVERYONE ;DOrder: Syngnathiformes
Family: Centriscidae
Species: Macrorhamphosus scolopax (Lin,1758)
Common Name: Longspine snipefish, Snipe fish
Size: to 20 cm TL (male/unsexed).
Habitat Type: Demersal; marine; depth range 25 - 600 m. Adults found near the bottom (normally at 50-150 m depth) over sand habitats on the lower continental shelf. Juveniles found in oceanic surface waters.
Diet: Juveniles feed mainly on pelagic invertebrates, mainly copepods; adults feed on bottom invertebrates.
Range: Widespread in warm seas. Western Atlantic: the offing of Nantucket Massachusetts Bay. Eastern Atlantic: southern England to the coast and banks of Morocco and in the Mediterranean.
Reproductive Strategy: Spawns commonly from October-March.
Comments: Commercial and aquarium species
LESTERUS
10-05-2006, 03:53 PM
YEAP!!! SMALL AMBERJACK, BACK BREAKER WHEN YOU
CATCH THEM IN A REEF OVER 200 FT OF WATER, THEY'RE BIG!!!! WHEN THEY ARE BIG OFTEN HAVE WORMS.
LESTERUS
Stinky_Hooker
10-05-2006, 04:33 PM
You bean those get that big?
Cool
AJs here usually have to be 45-50+ before they have worms.
A buddy of mine got a 99#er a couple months back.
I look for a pic...
LESTERUS
10-05-2006, 04:45 PM
STINKY: DONT BE FUNNY!!! I MEANT OVER 200FT DEPTH
OF WATER, THE ONLY THING IN MIAMI OVER 200FT IS THE CIGARET BOATS OF DRUG DEALERS!!!!!
LESTERUS
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