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C YENSEN
04-11-2007, 03:10 PM
ok, so like most others, I have two batteries. I bought a new one 2 years ago, and another new one last year this time. Well the bilge pump wore them out due to the boat being in the marina all last season. By the fall they were DEAD. So my question is.....can i get away with just charging them or should I buy one or two new ones? :-/
Stinky_Hooker
04-11-2007, 03:26 PM
More than likely they are ok, but only a charge and test will tell you for sure.
FYI-I replace both mine EVERY year...one less problem to worry about when offshore. :o
C YENSEN
04-11-2007, 03:35 PM
More than likely they are ok, but only a charge and test will tell you for sure.
FYI-I replace both mine EVERY year...one less problem to worry about when offshore. :o
thanks Stinky ;D
I dont go offshore, so I can always find a tow home if I have to :-X
Blue_Runner
04-11-2007, 03:41 PM
Charge em up. I'm sure one or both is just fine.
Stinky_Hooker
04-11-2007, 03:42 PM
I dont go offshore often, you just never know...even inshore I may be 20 miles or so from port. :-/
C YENSEN
04-11-2007, 03:44 PM
I am never more than 10 miles at the most from home ;D
Airslot
04-11-2007, 03:53 PM
Throw them on the charger, then after they are done take them to Advance Auto or similiar and have them tested. *They should do it for free.
macojoe
04-11-2007, 05:41 PM
I run the cheapest car battery I can find with the best warr. Right now thats Walmart, But I have to say there battery's are garbage!! But come with like a 3 year free replacement!
I run to battery's toghter no separation, charge toghter drain toghter, I carry a Jump Starter thing , and run the Bait tank & Electric reel's from it.
Makes a great back up!! I have never used it for starting, but I think I have saved like 10 boats with it for others!
parishht
04-11-2007, 06:41 PM
Why not look into an onboard charger.
I got the Guest charger and every weekend I plug in the batteries
to give them a charge.
Here's a discussion we had a while ago:
http://www.wellcraftv20.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=Repairs;action=display;num=11429770 03;start=
bradford
04-12-2007, 01:47 AM
I agree with mj, walmart batteries are junk, I had two of the "everstart Maxx" brand go belly up on me in my truck way too soon, and as usual at the worst time. I run two interstate megatron deep cells in my V20 and never had any problems. I replace one every other year just to be safe, but I think they still have plenty of life in them. to me it's worth an extra twenty bucks to have something thats gonna get ya home when the weather turns bad, besides begging for a tow home sucks! just my two cents.
msbhammer
04-12-2007, 01:50 AM
Yeah, I was towed home once last season and it stunk !!
C YENSEN
04-12-2007, 09:25 AM
yeah i will probably buy a new one. i use the cheapest one boater's world has :-/
spareparts
04-12-2007, 09:44 AM
every time i turn around someone is having battery problems, most of the time its the type of battery or size. Engine manufactures post a minimum spec for cranking batteries for the engine they manufacture. Any thing with a computer on it needs at least 750 CCA(900 MCA), Any of your bigger I/O engines need the same whether they are computer controlled or carbed. Yamaha seems to be the most conservative with their requiremnts, but I run into more bad battery cables( factory supplied) on Yamaha's than other brands. Check the engine manufactures for minimum battery cable size for the lenght of cable, 75% of the used boats I work on won't even come close. Make sure your battery switch is up to the rating of the battery also, theres no sense in putting a hot battery in behind a cheap switch. But probably the biggest problem I run into is finding deep cycle batteries for starting batteries, engine manufactures strickly forbid this, for good reason. Most deep cycle battereis rarely meet the minimum CCA/MCA requirements, deep cycle batteries are designed to be "cycled" meaning run down and charged back up( at a slow rate), not cycleing the battery will result in a loss of performance, futher degrading its abillaty to perform as needed. If you are using an on board charger, they charge at a different rate than regular batteries( if you charge them fast, they will degrade as well). I've seen plenty of people get by with deep cycle batteries to start their outboard, but when its replaced by a proper starting battery, its a night and day difference in starting. I've been thru this with battery suppliers more than once, never use a deep cycle on anything other than trolling motors or depleteting house batteries( set up with their own charger and isolated system). AS afar as dual purpose batteries go, they do neither job well, they don't cycle as good as deep cycle, and they don't start as good as starting, they also don't respond as well to high output charging systems(late model EFI motors) like deepcycles. I've installed dozens of West Marine( or Deka) maintanance free 1000 MCA group 24 batteries with a single failure, I've also used Interstate 24XHD, 27XHD wet cell with simular performance. I haven't had a lot of experiance with gel, or AGM's but the ones I've seen rarely outlast a standard wet cell if properly maintaned, I have seen several that were cooked due to over charging, Gel and AGM require slower charging rates simular to deep cycle, they sometime require turning down the charging rate on altenators
parishht
04-12-2007, 09:49 AM
Hey Spare, do you have any suggestions for make or manufacturer other than interstate?
spareparts
04-12-2007, 10:04 AM
Deka, I've had the best of luck with them, West Marine sells them under their own name, Boaters World sells a different brand( don't know who supplies them, look like an Exide) haven't had too good luck and they are priced higher.
parishht
04-12-2007, 10:17 AM
DEKA is East Penn Manufacturing in Lyons, Pa.
15 minutes from my house.
I think they still have an outlet.
and yes, Exide does make batteries for East Penn.
A good friend of mine is the HR manager at Exide.
Exide is in Laureldale, Pa. 20 minutes from East Penn and 5 minutes from me.
Airslot
04-12-2007, 11:02 AM
I've been installing Deka Marine Master Starting batteries in boat for the last 4 years, maybe 25 batteries w/ no issues yet. I would think that some of those 4 year old batteries will be on there way out this year? Anyhoooo, on my V, I carry 1 Deka Marine Master grp24 1000 mca and also carry a booster pack.
Franco
04-12-2007, 09:21 PM
I installed a power outlet, fused the circuit and connected it directly to the battery. I bought a solar battery chsrger off ebay and keep it plugged into the power outlet any time I'm not in the boat, stays nice and hot all the time. VW ships them with new cars to keep the batteries charged while sitting on the lot, thats where mine came from.
reelapeelin
04-12-2007, 09:21 PM
I've got two grp 24 deep cycle/crankin' marine batteries from Sears on a guest 2411 charger ... and two grp 31 AC/Delco Marine Deep Cycles for the rollin' motor on a Guest 2620 charger...both chargers stay plugged in MOST of the time and I don't have any battery problems...the AC/Delcos are 6 years old and the Sears are 3 or 4 ... :D
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