View Full Version : First trip in the salt with the 250
Monkey Butler
07-11-2007, 01:42 AM
This is the symbol of the guy that used to be known as the Artist Formerly Known as Prince.
http://www.monkeybutler.com/boat/2007_0707/1a.jpg
And this is the symbol of the guy formerly known as Tally Ho....
http://www.monkeybutler.com/boat/2007_0707/1b.jpg
The new boat is going to be named the Monkey Butler hence the new handle. I've owned the domain name www.monkeybutler.com for some time and eventually I'll get a website put up.
I took some vaction and I've been off work since the 4th puttering around with the boat. I had a problem with a mid-range bog in the motor so I didn't feel comfortable going out in the ocean yet. I was waiting on carb kits so in the meantime we had a few outings on Lake Quinsigamond in Worcester. A 25 footer doesn't make an ideal bassboat but in a pinch......
http://www.monkeybutler.com/boat/2007_0707/2a.jpg
Well the parts didn't come in on Friday as expected but I tore down the carbs anyway, cleaned 'em and reassembled with the old gaskets. Took it out on the lake again and ran like a new motor. So Saturday morning we were 69.3 miles away from the MOB marker I punched in on the lake...
http://www.monkeybutler.com/boat/2007_0707/2b.jpg
http://www.monkeybutler.com/boat/2007_0707/2c.jpg
Let me introduce the crew.
Admiral Junkbottom...
http://www.monkeybutler.com/boat/2007_0707/3a.jpg
Oldest kid and only daughter Nicole...
http://www.monkeybutler.com/boat/2007_0707/3b.jpg
Oldest son Tyler...
http://www.monkeybutler.com/boat/2007_0707/3c.jpg
And the youngest, Brian...
http://www.monkeybutler.com/boat/2007_0707/3d.jpg
And yours truly...
http://www.monkeybutler.com/boat/2007_0707/3e.jpg
BTW, there is a toe shot hidden in one of the above pictures for ya' Stink Man.
We caught some scup, tried our luck for stripers, and ducked into a sheltered beach when the famous Buzzards Bay afternoon chop blew up, along with every other boat on the bay...
http://www.monkeybutler.com/boat/2007_0707/4.jpg
Here is a link to a short Movie that we threw together (~3mb)
http://www.monkeybutler.com/boat/2007_0707/BuzzBay.wmv
All in all a great day. Hope you all had a great 4th.
Steve P.
Boat looks great and sounds like you had a good time ;D
Pipe_Dream
07-11-2007, 09:44 AM
Great pics, great video. *I wish I had more of those skills! *Looking forward to more.
Looks like the 250 pushes that boat quite well!
Shawsee
07-11-2007, 12:38 PM
Way to go Steve! Glad you and your family had fun together. Did you launch at Maco's in Wareham? Video is great too. Awesome job. LMAO @ "the guy formerly known as Tally Ho" Oh wait a minute, did you change your name because of the Rev. Al Sharpton? he don't like anyone being called "Ho" LMFAO! ;D
willy
07-11-2007, 12:45 PM
Well done Steve, the 250 is looking sweet, I think that is the perfect all around size for a boat, especially if it is going to be a family boat a good percentage of the time. Very nice ;)
lumberslinger178
07-11-2007, 01:41 PM
great pictures there and an awsome video ;D ;D ;D
Hammerhead
07-11-2007, 02:19 PM
Bravo. great lil' Vid. Those kinda memories last forever.
TunaHead
07-11-2007, 03:43 PM
Great stuff!!! Thanks for sharing.
bassarama
07-11-2007, 05:19 PM
Great post Steve
I like the pics and video.
I also have many family videos I wish were digital, it sure brings back great moments :)
Thanks for posting it.
Joe
C YENSEN
07-11-2007, 05:27 PM
glad she ran well for ya.
and great pics of the crew ;D
msbhammer
07-11-2007, 06:21 PM
Great Pics. ;)
Monkey Butler
07-11-2007, 06:22 PM
Thank you everyone for the compliments on the pics and the movie. Now that my kids showed me how to work Windows Movie Maker I'll be using it more often. It's great to be able to string together the 15 second movie clips that I can take with my digital camera.
Shawsee,
I lauched from Taylor Point, in Bourne. Good ramp and facilities for $10. I'm not familiar with Maco's, is it the place just across the bridge? Any closer to getting the brakes yet? And yep, the Rev. got ahold of me and said if I didn't get all PC and declare myself a Ho free zone he was gonna shake me down. Plus it looks like my name was already taken...
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n175/spareparts_photos/talleyho.jpg
image courtesey of Spareparts
I'm really happy with the boat. It's not too big or heavy, my 1/2 ton Suburban pulls it just fine. The cabin is actually big enough to be useful and there is still a good size cockpit left over. The enclosed head is more trouble than it's worth for guys but it does solve the biggest problem once you bring a girl aboard. Performance is good enough for me with the 220HP motor but since it is 21 years old (and requires 93 octane gas) I'm keeping my eyes open for a good used repower. I'd like to stick with a Yamaha, probably a 225 or 250 but 300HP would be fun, any recommendation on years or models to look for?
One gripe I have is that there is no anchor or rope storage in the bow. I can probably make a pulpit but I'm looking for ideas on rode storage.
Steve P.
THEFERMANATOR
07-11-2007, 06:38 PM
I would reccomend a late 90's 250HP YAMMAHA OX66 if your looking for a easy replacement and reliability.
randlemanboater2
07-11-2007, 07:23 PM
I remember back in the mid 90's that the 250 Yami's changed from being GAS HOGS (1 mpg on a 25 ft boat)to doing pretty good on gas (3 mpg on a 25 ft boat), just be sure to get the latter.
spareparts
07-11-2007, 09:12 PM
the VX-76 250( had 6 1 bbl carbs) was the fuel drinkinest motor to ever be bolted on the back of a boat(except for the V8 Johnrudes). They told me in Yamaha school it burned between 41 and 44 gph @wot, they used excess fuel to cool the combustion chamber and keep it from blowing up. The OX series fuel injected motors were far better
THEFERMANATOR
07-11-2007, 09:28 PM
They told me in Yamaha school it burned between 41 and 44 gph @wot
Say it aint so, please say it aint so. I have a 93 250 YAMAHA I was going to put on my 20' HYDRA-SPORT CC. I had no idea they burned that much, I think the 4.0L V-8 JOHNNY-RUDE only burned 30-32 GPH top end though.
reelapeelin
07-11-2007, 10:55 PM
EXCESS FUEL?? ??? ?? ... boy, now THERE'S a term from a different time ::) ... back when oil company magnates were shrewd businessmen instead of the GREEDY-A$$ Bean-Counters they are today ::) ...
...anyway MB...great trip in the 250!! 8) ...and I REELY like the white bikini lower left of last pic ... GREAT camera work 8) 8) ...
spareparts
07-11-2007, 11:02 PM
i have one customer that has a VX76, he said he keeps it around 3500 and it doesn't do too bad( he can buy a lot of fuel for what a 4 stroke cost), what you have to watch for on those motors is the enrichner circut, they can leak fuel and make it burn even more
Monkey Butler
07-12-2007, 11:35 AM
Reel wrote:
EXCESS FUEL?? ?? ... boy, now THERE'S a term from a different time
I thought all outboards used excess fuel. If you look at an outboard when it's running you will usually see a stream of the excess fuel shooting out the side or back through what is commonly called the pee or piss hole but I believe that the correct term is "excess fuel letter outer" or something like that. Like Spare said this keeps the motor cool. A guy I know had his excess fuel letter outer stop working and sho' nuff his motor blowed up right after that. Those VX's must have two holes.
Steve P.
THEFERMANATOR
07-12-2007, 11:59 AM
The excess fuel that most are accustomed to seeing come out of a 2-stroke is due to the inneficiency of a 2-stroke engine. Every time that a 2-stroke brings in air to the cylinder the exhaust port is also open at the same time. So some of the fuel-air mixture that was just drawn into the combustion chamber is lost through the exhaust, this is where most of the unburned fuel comes from. In the older cross-flow engine roughly 20-30% of the intake charge went out the exhaust unburnt. The newer looper's supposedly got this down to 8-15%.
In a direct comparison I have an 83 115 cross-flow engine and an 85 140 looper. The 115 burns roughly 11-12 GPH @ 4200, and my 140 with more HP burns about 8 GPH at the same RPM. And then you can compare a carb motor to an injected motor. The injected motor use's less fuel at idle since the fuel is injected under pressure which helps it atomize, where as a carb motor relies on vacuum from the engine to pull the fuel in and atomize it. Unfortunately 2 stroke's(espescially loopers) don't have very good vacuum at idle, so more fuel gets lost unburnt. And then you have the excess fuel for oiling reasons since the fuel actually carries the engines life-blood. And so on and so on.
DISCLAIMER: Most of this information is POOMA and is not guarranteed. I am in no way an engineer or designer, just a dumb hick who can decipher some of there code.
spareparts
07-12-2007, 03:57 PM
"POOMA" I like that term, i will use it a lot in the future :D
put it right up there with SWAG, PITA, and "No , I've never heard of that problem before, but I have a kit to fix it"
garagenc
07-12-2007, 08:36 PM
Snatch the bracket and outboard off that thing and install a I/O and go boating for a lot less in fuel cost.
:D 8) ::)
macojoe
07-12-2007, 08:52 PM
And endless repairs!!
spareparts
07-12-2007, 10:54 PM
inboard, outboard, I/O, they all break, job security for me! ;D
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