View Full Version : Mark Esper’s time “ serving” trump
bgreene
05-09-2022, 05:52 PM
Mark Esper……Republican, career Army man, Paratrooper 
Speaks of his time with Trump and his decision to uphold our Constitution ….over Trumps whims 
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-mark-esper-sacred-oath-60-minutes-2022-05-08/
Destroyer
05-11-2022, 11:18 PM
Mark Esper***8230;***8230;Republican, career Army man, Paratrooper 
Speaks of his time with Trump and his decision to uphold our Constitution ***8230;.over Trumps whims 
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-mark-esper-sacred-oath-60-minutes-2022-05-08/
Yep, saw part one of the interview live.  So?  He's entitled to his opinion, as are we all.  It proves nothing.  Let me repeat that for anyone that didn't understand it.  IT PROVES NOTHING!!  Actually, I take that back.  It proves that he (Esper) like many before him, is willing to prostitute himself on the altar of monetary gain as he promotes his new book.  We've seen it before and we'll see it again.  
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bgreene
05-12-2022, 05:52 AM
Yep, saw part one of the interview live.  So?  He's entitled to his opinion, as are we all.  It proves nothing.  Let me repeat that for anyone that didn't understand it.  IT PROVES NOTHING!!  Actually, I take that back.  It proves that he (Esper) like many before him, is willing to prostitute himself on the altar of monetary gain as he promotes his new book.  We've seen it before and we'll see it again.  
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Like trumps book “ the art of the deal “ where he bragged about cheating .
Or was that Trumps “ real estate school “ where he paid $ millions back because it was a scam
Destroyer
05-12-2022, 11:02 PM
Like trumps book “ the art of the deal “ where he bragged about cheating .
Or was that Trumps “ real estate school “ where he paid $ millions back because it was a scam
There are 2 hit shows on TV..  One is called Pawn Stars and the other is called American Picker.  Both of them feature people that pay people about half or less for items that they want to buy, so that they can then sell them for twice that amount.  My point is if you ever read the "Art of the Deal" you would know that he, (Trump) like everyone else in business, is trying to make a buck.  No one is ever in business to lose money.  
As for his failed real estate school, although he did pay back a lot of money two things are factual.  1) He never said it was a scam, and he said he was returning the money in the interests of clearing his good name.  2) He produced several testimonials in court from people that attended his school that praised it and the amount of knowledge they gained. 
So I guess that it all depends on which side of the fence you're on as to whom you believe.  In my own personal opinion I think it was a smear job fomented by the same people that tried on so many other occasions to destroy him both before and during his presidency.
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bgreene
05-13-2022, 02:29 AM
There are 2 hit shows on TV..  One is called Pawn Stars and the other is called American Picker.  Both of them feature people that pay people about half or less for items that they want to buy, so that they can then sell them for twice that amount.  My point is if you ever read the "Art of the Deal" you would know that he, (Trump) like everyone else in business, is trying to make a buck.  No one is ever in business to lose money.  
As for his failed real estate school, although he did pay back a lot of money two things are factual.  1) He never said it was a scam, and he said he was returning the money in the interests of clearing his good name.  2) He produced several testimonials in court from people that attended his school that praised it and the amount of knowledge they gained. 
So I guess that it all depends on which side of the fence you're on as to whom you believe.  In my own personal opinion I think it was a smear job fomented by the same people that tried on so many other occasions to destroy him both before and during his presidency.
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Of course you think it’s all a “ smear job “
scook
05-13-2022, 07:15 AM
The timing of the lawsuit, certainly looked politically motivated, and assuming that negative articles about Trump are smear pieces is usually a pretty safe bet - in this case, more like a sure bet.
bgreene
05-13-2022, 08:01 AM
The timing of the lawsuit, certainly looked politically motivated, and assuming that negative articles about Trump are smear pieces is usually a pretty safe bet - in this case, more like a sure bet.
Oh really ? Negative articles about trump are “ smear pieces “ hu ?
Wow you really want trump to return as completely shielded from law and even any negative comments .
That would be a dictatorship - exactly what trump wants- absolute unrestrained power.
Well sir - that’s not America - not just yet anyway.
Destroyer
05-13-2022, 10:37 AM
Oh really ? Negative articles about trump are “ smear pieces “ hu ?
Wow you really want trump to return as completely shielded from law and even any negative comments .
That would be a dictatorship - exactly what trump wants- absolute unrestrained power.
Well sir - that’s not America - not just yet anyway.
What is Hu?  Is that short for huh?  
As for the dictatorship comment you're correct.  That's not America,  but the Democrats are closing in on it with lightning speed.  Weaponizing the Federal Government against their enemies, censorship of opponents, control of 90% of the mainstream media, creating a Ministry of Truth led by a known misinformation specialist, rigging elections, deliberately creating inflation and high energy prices to push their radical green new deal agenda.  The list goes on and on.
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bgreene
05-14-2022, 06:45 AM
What is Hu?  Is that short for huh?  
As for the dictatorship comment you're correct.  That's not America,  but the Democrats are closing in on it with lightning speed.  Weaponizing the Federal Government against their enemies, censorship of opponents, control of 90% of the mainstream media, creating a Ministry of Truth led by a known misinformation specialist, rigging elections, deliberately creating inflation and high energy prices to push their radical green new deal agenda.  The list goes on and on.
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You post empty conspiracy theories - just like trump.
scook
05-14-2022, 07:18 PM
You ignore the truth and post nonsense, ALONG with your conspiracy theories.  Destroyer posts thoughtful, correct information, which you would be well served to take seriously and respond to honestly.
bgreene
05-14-2022, 08:47 PM
You ignore the truth and post nonsense, ALONG with your conspiracy theories.  Destroyer posts thoughtful, correct information, which you would be well served to take seriously and respond to honestly.
Ooohhh yes your buddy destroyer warns me not to insult by posting scookie - have a cookie.
Coming from destroyer ….that’s funny .
Conspiracy theories ?????
There you go being funny again.  The BIGGEST EMPTY CONSPIRACY THEORY is you trump lovers buying into Trumps big lie that he won by landslide !!!
You should be a stand up comedian !  ( Not really )
scook
05-15-2022, 12:26 AM
Apparently you get some perverse satisfaction from being snarky and obnoxious.
Destroyer
05-15-2022, 02:21 AM
You post empty conspiracy theories - just like trump.
Really?  Empty theories?   Lets see...  
1)  It's already been established by the Muller investigation and now the Durham investigation that high level people and the heads of the FBI and CiA spied on Trump, both before and after he was elected President.
2) Twitter and Facebook either outright banned or censored not only Trump but virtually anyone that made a post that was against the Democrats.  I know this as fact since several of my friends saw their accounts either banned or "fact checked'.  
3) The mainstream media is controlled by 7 people that either own or control Disney, CBS, NBC, ABC, CNBC, MSNBC, CNN, Bloomberg, NPR, Telemundo and several other smaller organizations.  That's 90% of all mainstream stations.  Approximately 85% of all their stories about President Trump were and continue to be negatively spun, while, at the same time, either dismissing outright or not even commenting about anything that was negative to the Democrats.  Hunter Biden's laptop that they said was Russian disinformation or a hoax and we now know is true is a great example of their dishonesty. 
4) The Ministry of Truth Dept (Real name Dept of Disinformation)  that was just created by the DOJ needs no additional verification, it's in all the news right now.  This will allow the Govt to censor items they don't like, a direct assault on the 1st Amendment's right to free speech.
5)  Rigging the election. (watch the 2000 Mules documentary that proves it) High energy prices, the Green new deal, inflation are ALL Biden's fault and need no further explanation since we are living that now.  (By the way, the price of gas went up another 20 cents yesterday) ($4.49 a gallon)
Still think these are empty conspiracy theories Greene?  Open your eyes man.  I understand you hate Trump, but that shouldn't blind you to what's going on right now, all around you.  Trump has been out of office for almost a year and a half.  Stop living in the past.  The Democrats are actively trying to take over America and make it into part of their Socialist New World Order, and it's people like you that are helping them succeed by your unwillingness to see the truth. 
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bgreene
05-15-2022, 03:43 AM
“ Trumps been out of office for a year and a half” writes destroyer - as if trumps threat to American democracy has passed.
WRONG - Trump undermined our Democracy with his election fraud LIE that has permeated the Republican Party to accept lying as their status quo .
If Trump wins back the Presidency, he will continue  to destroy our system of fair elections, cause massive civil unrest, eliminate news that doesn’t favor him,  repeal environmental protections, and likely turn America into just another autocratic regime - run and “ owned “ by the trump family.
Democracy is fragile - it can be destroyed when proven empty conspiracy theories become accepted over FACTS and the TRUTH .
scook
05-15-2022, 07:57 PM
Well, it’s looking more like the charge that it’s Trump’s “big lie” and the lie is in the fraudulent vote harvesting and the Trump hating media being liars, but we’ll see if law enforcement picks up the ball and finally does an honest and thorough investigation.
I am curious though about your repeated claim that Trump would “eliminate news that doesn’t favor him”.  He wasn’t successful, if I’m fact he tried, doing that during his presidency.  How would he be able to accomplish that - it doesn’t seem like he would have any way to do it.
bgreene
05-15-2022, 08:36 PM
Well, it’s looking more like the charge that it’s Trump’s “big lie” and the lie is in the fraudulent vote harvesting and the Trump hating media being liars, but we’ll see if law enforcement picks up the ball and finally does an honest and thorough investigation.
I am curious though about your repeated claim that Trump would “eliminate news that doesn’t favor him”.  He wasn’t successful, if I’m fact he tried, doing that during his presidency.  How would he be able to accomplish that - it doesn’t seem like he would have any way to do it.
Trump already had the votes audited and guess what - they found Biden won by slightly bigger margin.   If you support trumps big election lie then you’re a traitor to America and you WANT Trump as dictator .
scook
05-15-2022, 08:51 PM
You need to reel it in with the traitor accusations, I don’t support any lies nor do I support your mindless Trump conspiracy theory.  If you’re too biased to entertain credible information suggesting that the election may very well have been fraudulent, or too unintelligent to process it, you should keep your snarky, disrespectful mouth shut.
No one here wants any dictator, and your incessant, dishonest claims that I/we do  are idiotic and offensive.
bgreene
05-15-2022, 09:43 PM
You need to reel it in with the traitor accusations, I don’t support any lies nor do I support your mindless Trump conspiracy theory.  If you’re too biased to entertain credible information suggesting that the election may very well have been fraudulent, or too unintelligent to process it, you should keep your snarky, disrespectful mouth shut.
No one here wants any dictator, and your incessant, dishonest claims that I/we do  are idiotic and offensive.
Well if you don’t support trumps conspiracy theories then post right here the truth which is :
1. Trump lost the election by our same very secure process by which he beat Hillary and praised our voting system.
2. Trump lies that he won by a landslide - he lost by impressive margin.
Here come your excuses …..
scook
05-15-2022, 11:58 PM
The truth that I’m posting is that there’s apparently a very well researched documentary that may prove, but at least provides exceptionally strong evidence of massive ballot harvesting.
So, unlike you, I’ll wait until I’ve had a chance to watch it before proclaiming that the election was stolen, and then I’ll give my HONEST opinion.  I don’t incessantly repeat biased talking points, spewed by flagrantly dishonest “news” sources - I actually think about things before posting.
Thanks to Destroyer for providing a link to the 2000 Mules video.  If you have any interest in real discussion, you may want to watch it as well.
bgreene
05-16-2022, 04:42 AM
A huge attempt to re write the TRUTH…..same as in most any dictatorship .
Lies and disinformation.
More “ pillow man “ nonsense on a bigger scale.
Trump lost , trumps a lying cheating con man traitor .
scook
05-17-2022, 02:27 AM
Responding out of 100% ignorance - typical.
bgreene
05-17-2022, 06:31 AM
Responding out of 100% ignorance - typical.
“ massive ballot harvesting “ says scook .Nonsense - no evidence at all.
Impossible given our voting system .
Our Presidential Election voting process confirmed as secure and accurate.
Then along comes Trump …..who first:
1.  Beats Hilary Clinton and praises our very fair election process
2.  Loses to Biden and makes up the big lie that it was rigged
scook
05-17-2022, 08:59 AM
By all means - stick with your narrative and don’t even LOOK at new EVIDENCE.  Ignorance personified and so typical.
bgreene
05-17-2022, 11:34 AM
By all means - stick with your narrative and don’t even LOOK at new EVIDENCE.  Ignorance personified and so typical.
Show us your “ new “ evidence scook
Destroyer
05-17-2022, 04:16 PM
Show us your “ new “ evidence scook
Greene, have you seen/watched 2000 Mules?   Do you even know what it is?
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bgreene
05-17-2022, 04:45 PM
Greene, have you seen/watched 2000 Mules?   Do you even know what it is?
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2000 Mules …….people carrying drugs across borders , on planes etc
Haha I’m not wrong …..I’m rarely wrong .
scook
05-17-2022, 07:54 PM
Your willful ignorance is amazing, even for you.
bgreene
05-17-2022, 08:16 PM
Your willful ignorance is amazing, even for you.
There you go with your insults again - but don’t worry - your buddy destroyer won’t scold you.
2,000 Mules - the movie is total nonsense .   
This is how it happens - a combination of made up nonsense plus inserting people into positions where they can change election laws .
This is how we will lose our democracy and the Great American Experiment ENDS.
With Trump back to appease his followers- and become dictator at the same time 
https://www.denverpost.com/2022/05/08/2000-mules-fact-check/
scook
05-17-2022, 11:58 PM
Have you watched the documentary?
bgreene
05-18-2022, 05:19 AM
Have you watched the documentary?
1. No - because it’s nonsense same as the “ pillow mans “ nonsense.
Each of our Government Bodies from Homeland Security to FBI and our Federal Courts confirmed the election process was secure .
2. This IS how it happens - and how we will lose our democracy .
When false narrative replaces the truth - and you’ll be one of the dominos responsible .
scook
05-18-2022, 02:56 PM
You don’t know either of those things to be true but don’t hesitate to proclaim them.
This is exactly how it happens when false, biased, ignorant narrative replaces truth and people like you completely ignore the actual threats. You are being the
Domino responsible for the erosion of our freedoms.
bgreene
05-18-2022, 03:44 PM
You don’t know either of those things to be true but don’t hesitate to proclaim them.
This is exactly how it happens when false, biased, ignorant narrative replaces truth and people like you completely ignore the actual threats. You are being the
Domino responsible for the erosion of our freedoms.
Hahahahah scook plagiarizing all my quotes again— only he’s using it associated with lies while I just post the truth and the facts .
Have a cookie - scookie
scook
05-18-2022, 06:20 PM
You clearly don’t understand plagiarism and repeating that you post truth and facts ad nauseam doesn’t make it any more true.
You are on the side of the people causing the problem, and unable to control yourself with snarky, disrespectful, childish attempts at insults.
bgreene
05-18-2022, 06:56 PM
You clearly don’t understand plagiarism and repeating that you post truth and facts ad nauseam doesn’t make it any more true.
You are on the side of the people causing the problem, and unable to control yourself with snarky, disrespectful, childish attempts at insults.
If I wanted to insult ….I would scookie .
Calm down
scook
05-20-2022, 12:50 AM
More condescension, arrogance and childishness.
bgreene
05-20-2022, 03:26 AM
More condescension, arrogance and childishness.
“condescendence, arrogance and childishness “ …does that come with lettuce, and tomato ?
Actually those descriptives fit TRUMP perfectly …like the time he mocked contact with disability by flailing his arms and such ….
scook
05-20-2022, 09:46 AM
Interesting that you would be so committed to emulating your view of him.
Destroyer
05-21-2022, 02:28 AM
Interesting that you would be so committed to emulating your view of him.
I'm beginning to think that there's more to Greene's hate of Trump than meets the eye.  
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