Trump now held in contempt of court

[bgreene]

Trump- forever playing his “ delay game” of withholding documents and records he doesn’t WANT released now ordered on contempt of court .

It goes on and on as he uses contributions to pay his army of lawyers to evade, and delay.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/new-york-judge-hears-arguments-whether-hold-trump-contempt-2022-04-25/

[bgreene]

Judge says trump to pay $10,000 per day fee.

But of course trump doesn’t likely care - others will pay his bill as usual.

[charlie_the_tuna]

hey greene, don't you have any hobbies? this political sh!t seems to take up all your time. if you're not gonna fish, maybe go buy yourself a golf club and go hit some balls. this stuff is rotting your brain.

[bgreene]

hey greene, don't you have any hobbies? this political sh!t seems to take up all your time. if you're not gonna fish, maybe go buy yourself a golf club and go hit some balls. this stuff is rotting your brain.

Hahaha hey Tuna here’s the deal
A. This “ political sh … “ as you call it specific to trumps attempt to eliminate our HONEST democratic processes is very important to me.
B. It takes very little time to post the truth and facts .
C. The human brain is stimulated by reading, writing, and learning
D. Tried golf - don’t like it .
E. Thanks for caring about me sir !

[bgreene]

Trump will gladly take your “ contributions ” so he can spend it on lawyers , or on a bigger boob job for Melania . Who knows - maybe both

[bgreene]

So send your hard earned money to support trump — he’ll be glad to spend it while calling you a poorly dressed loser

[Destroyer]

Just another of the overtly biased witch hunts being conducted by Democrats. If they would have expended a quarter of the time and energy that they are putting into trying to convict Trump of anything they would have locked up the entire Biden crime family years ago.

But of course there are some that will turn a blind eye to anything the democrats do while blaming everything that is happening right now to our Country on anybody but Biden.

How pathetic

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[bgreene]

Send your money to trump destroyer - he’ll take it and then call you a poorly dressed nobody.
He does say those things about “ the little people “ in case you don’t know.

But they stand out in the rain to hear him lie, and they eat it up .

[scook]

And we have another pathetic response, or more accurately a non-response.

[bgreene]

And we have another pathetic response, or more accurately a non-response.

My response is accurate - trump receives donations from those he considers “ just poorly dressed nobody’s “ who buy into his charming and charismatic lies .

Now Trumps appealing the contempt of court ruling - and his armies of lawyers will delay delay delay …..the trump way of doing business

[scook]

I’ve never heard him mark those kinds of comments, but I don’t listen to a lot of what other people say - I have real work to do.

Of course he’s appealing it - he has the intelligence to fight back, within the legal system, against the constant attacks. I suppose you’d just lay down if a bunch of partisan hacks were constantly attacking you - well would you?

[bgreene]

I’ve never heard him mark those kinds of comments, but I don’t listen to a lot of what other people say - I have real work to do.

Of course he’s appealing it - he has the intelligence to fight back, within the legal system, against the constant attacks. I suppose you’d just lay down if a bunch of partisan hacks were constantly attacking you - well would you?

I wouldn’t be in contempt of court as trump is

[scook]

You might be if you were under continuous attack by partisan, witch hunting hacks. He's appealing it - the thing you do "within" the legal system if you don't agree with a court decision.

[Destroyer]

My response is accurate - trump receives donations from those he considers “ just poorly dressed nobody’s “ who buy into his charming and charismatic lies .

Now Trumps appealing the contempt of court ruling - and his armies of lawyers will delay delay delay …..the trump way of doing business

You know, I did a search of Trumps sayings on Google. I asked if Trump really said some people were "just poorly dressed nobody’s". Not so strangely, I couldn't find any links. Not a single one. Isn't that strange? It's almost like he never said it and someone just made it up. Interesting.....

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[bgreene]

You know, I did a search of Trumps sayings on Google. I asked if Trump really said some people were "just poorly dressed nobody’s". Not so strangely, I couldn't find any links. Not a single one. Isn't that strange? It's almost like he never said it and someone just made it up. Interesting.....

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Oh really destroyer - you googled it and you “ couldn’t find any links” ??
Seems your investigation skills aren’t very good and it’s almost like you purposely avoid the facts and the truth …….. maybe just ONE LINK as attached will help you

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election-2020/trump-mob-capitol-riots-poor-low-class-b1785099.html

[scook]

It helps illuminate your bias - that article is all along the lines of “it’s reported that . . .”. It’s also from the very liberal British press.

This is why what you say isn’t believed - you ONLY say things negative about Trump, Republicans and conservatives, your sources are heavily biased and this link, like many others you post doesn’t even claim to present verified facts.

No doubt, your response to this, if you make one, will be some snarky attempt at arrogant condescension as opposed to acknowledging the facts I just presented. Yet another reason you’re not respected or taken seriously.

[bgreene]

It helps illuminate your bias - that article is all along the lines of “it’s reported that . . .”. It’s also from the very liberal British press.

This is why what you say isn’t believed - you ONLY say things negative about Trump, Republicans and conservatives, your sources are heavily biased and this link, like many others you post doesn’t even claim to present verified facts.

No doubt, your response to this, if you make one, will be some snarky attempt at arrogant condescension as opposed to acknowledging the facts I just presented. Yet another reason you’re not respected or taken seriously.

WRONG AGAIN I’m not “ anti Republican” . I’m anti trump because he’s a lying cheating con man traitor .
I find Liz Chaney interesting as a Republican - especially because she has the good character to draw the line at upholding American values .
As to whether I’m respected or taken seriously by you and company - you still don’t realize that doesn’t matter ?
The TRUTH and FACTS is what matters here scook - not popularity with a couple guys on web site.

[scook]

Not anti-Republican, says the guy who posts drivel like “the way to be a major player as a Republican is to lie” and names a thread “The age of political lying” and pretends a couple of isolated Republican incidents (legitimate or not) have started it. The democrats fully established the age of political lying long ago and, as only one set of glaring examples, demonstrated their complete lack of integrity and character in their despicable attacks on Trump. There is Hillary’s fabrication of the fake report that started the Russian collusion “investigation”, the lying FBI pursuing it, the congressional committees kangaroo court style proceedings, lying that they had absolute proof of Trump’s guilt, the list goes on and on.

You pretend that Republicans are the liars, you deny or simply ignore (among many other actually important things) the facts just listed above. You are definitely anti-Republican, and blind to the flagrant lying and destruction democrats are heaping onto the US and the world in a way that’s not remotely patriotic, or respectful of facts and the truth. This isn’t about popularity, it’s about respect, which you have to earn by being honest and, in a forum like this, showing concern for things that are actually important, not endlessly repeating conspiracy theories, functioning out of mindless bias and responding to every disagreement with childish attempts at insults.

[bgreene]

Not anti-Republican, says the guy who posts drivel like “the way to be a major player as a Republican is to lie” and names a thread “The age of political lying” and pretends a couple of isolated Republican incidents (legitimate or not) have started it. The democrats fully established the age of political lying long ago and, as only one set of glaring examples, demonstrated their complete lack of integrity and character in their despicable attacks on Trump. There is Hillary’s fabrication of the fake report that started the Russian collusion “investigation”, the lying FBI pursuing it, the congressional committees kangaroo court style proceedings, lying that they had absolute proof of Trump’s guilt, the list goes on and on.

You pretend that Republicans are the liars, you deny or simply ignore (among many other actually important things) the facts just listed above. You are definitely anti-Republican, and blind to the flagrant lying and destruction democrats are heaping onto the US and the world in a way that’s not remotely patriotic, or respectful of facts and the truth. This isn’t about popularity, it’s about respect, which you have to earn by being honest and, in a forum like this, showing concern for things that are actually important, not endlessly repeating conspiracy theories, functioning out of mindless bias and responding to every disagreement with childish attempts at insults.

Scook - the FACT is many Republicans have adopted Trumps lying and denial as a status quo .
Some do it because they realize the have to for votes, some due to poor character and nothing more than to kiss up to trump. Either way - it’s wrong

[scook]

It’s many now? I think you’re pretty much aligning yourself with the chronic lying democrats, your news sources and social media. Thankfully, there’s hope for Twitter with Elon Musk at least saying he’s standing up for free speech.

Who’s opposing that and howling like squashed cats? The far left dishonest people with radically biased agendas - I’m guessing that you support the Nazi style free speech suppressing government panel formed by Biden’s administration. Isn’t that exactly what you were warning about if Trump is elected again, I mean EXACTLY?

Once again, you seem blind to the FACT that the people YOU support are doing exactly what you falsely accuse Trump of planning to do. Is there any chance of you apprehending that?

[bgreene]

It’s many now? I think you’re pretty much aligning yourself with the chronic lying democrats, your news sources and social media. Thankfully, there’s hope for Twitter with Elon Musk at least saying he’s standing up for free speech.

Who’s opposing that and howling like squashed cats? The far left dishonest people with radically biased agendas - I’m guessing that you support the Nazi style free speech suppressing government panel formed by Biden’s administration. Isn’t that exactly what you were warning about if Trump is elected again, I mean EXACTLY?

Once again, you seem blind to the FACT that the people YOU support are doing exactly what you falsely accuse Trump of planning to do. Is there any chance of you apprehending that?

I don’t falsely accuse trump - I accurately accuse trump of that which he is guilty .

[scook]

So you’re acknowledging that you are falsely accusing all or most Republicans of adopting lying as the status quo? At the same time, you’re silent on the fact that a very significant number of democrats have over a long period established exactly that as their status quo.

I can imagine you watching the Russian hoax hearings, gleefully hoping Trump would be convicted on the impeachment charges which were based 100% on flagrant malicious lies.

[bgreene]

So you’re acknowledging that you are falsely accusing all or most Republicans of adopting lying as the status quo? At the same time, you’re silent on the fact that a very significant number of democrats have over a long period established exactly that as their status quo.

I can imagine you watching the Russian hoax hearings, gleefully hoping Trump would be convicted on the impeachment charges which were based 100% on flagrant malicious lies.

You can “ imagine “ all you want scook - leave the facts and truth to me

[scook]

Zero responsiveness. When you post some facts, we’ll see about leaving them to you - you don’t seem to be acquainted with facts on any intimate level,

[bgreene]

Judge rules trumps appeal lacking substance - not surprised at all.

[scook]

This is somehow responsive in the context of our recent exchange?

[bgreene]

This is somehow responsive in the context of our recent exchange?

Scook - you don’t “ write the rules “ on this forum.
You’re not in charge - You’re not the boss .

I started this thread and writing as I see fit with facts and the truth.
If you don’t like it that’s your problem - try writing your own thread .

[scook]

Just giving you ANOTHER opportunity to engage in an intellectually honest exchange, but you seem to be incapable of that.

You make extreme statements, then when shown to be dead wrong, you deflect, ignore and come back with some completely unrelated statement. It’s not to do with me making rules, but rather with your brain function or honesty.

Maybe it would be more honest for you to start your posts with “Please don’t respond to this post with anything but complete agreement. I’m not interested in anything anyone else has to say that doesn’t support my opinions. My knowledge and command of TRUTH and FACTS is absolute, and you little people who disagree are slobbering Trump loving idiots.”

[bgreene]

Just giving you ANOTHER opportunity to engage in an intellectually honest exchange, but you seem to be incapable of that.

You make extreme statements, then when shown to be dead wrong, you deflect, ignore and come back with some completely unrelated statement. It’s not to do with me making rules, but rather with your brain function or honesty.

Maybe it would be more honest for you to start your posts with “Please don’t respond to this post with anything but complete agreement. I’m not interested in anything anyone else has to say that doesn’t support my opinions. My knowledge and command of TRUTH and FACTS is absolute, and you little people who disagree are slobbering Trump loving idiots.”

Honest - yes I’m am. Fact checker - yes that’s me.
Character to post the truth about the lying cheating con man trump and his role in the violent Capitol Insurrection attacks - yes .

So stop trying to label me as other than honest - I’m not extreme left or right . I’m a centrist believing in some policies on both sides.
I may have to hold you on contempt of the truth - right there with trump

[scook]

Well, you're certainly not a centrist and your fact checking is with the fox guarding the henhouse. You won't find anything but the truth in my posts, nor any extreme biased, leftwing opinions stated as facts that I find in yours.

[bgreene]

Well, you're certainly not a centrist and your fact checking is with the fox guarding the henhouse. You won't find anything but the truth in my posts, nor any extreme biased, leftwing opinions stated as facts that I find in yours.

HahaahahH you funny !!!

[scook]

Another clever, brilliant response - good grief.

[bgreene]

Another clever, brilliant response - good grief.

Clever yeh, I believe I’m reasonably clever thanks . “ Brilliant” I don’t think that way of myself but I am secure in my principles - and determination to stick with FACTS and the TRUTH .

Bidens made some errors in planning - Afghanistan a big mistake which I posted about .
CNN has reported accurately about Bidens low rating which I posted about.

The IDEA of Trump as President was good- the REALITY of trump is his malignant narcissist personality disorder has proven too much risk for our nation - for our democracy to continue fairly, so the majority of Americans voted him out- and that’s what happened.

You and the “ pillow man “ can talk all you want of conspiracy theories but the FACT IS no voter fraud was found of any meaningful way and trumps a LIAR about the results .

[scook]

The issues are that:

1) While you posted about Afghanistan being a "big mistake" you didn't acknowledge what was quite clear - it was a symptom on Biden's very significant incompetence. I really can't imagine a generally competent person doing what he did in that situation.

2) While CNN finally acknowledged his low ratings, they did no actual journalism on the subject of why. Had it been Trump, the reporting would have been vastly different.

3) While you acknowledge the idea of Trump being good, you acknowledge none of the very positive things he accomplished, nor the fact that the voters were denied critical information about Hunter's incriminating laptop for deciding whether to vote for Biden. This was done by the biased and dishonest media and social media, who additionally had been reporting only negative (in many cases, dishonest) stories about Trump for years. Can you not acknowledge that those things likely had a significant effect on the election results?

We can disagree as to the whether there were many of few voting irregularities, but please consider the three points above.

[bgreene]

The issues are that:

1) While you posted about Afghanistan being a "big mistake" you didn't acknowledge what was quite clear - it was a symptom on Biden's very significant incompetence. I really can't imagine a generally competent person doing what he did in that situation.

2) While CNN finally acknowledged his low ratings, they did no actual journalism on the subject of why. Had it been Trump, the reporting would have been vastly different.

3) While you acknowledge the idea of Trump being good, you acknowledge none of the very positive things he accomplished, nor the fact that the voters were denied critical information about Hunter's incriminating laptop for deciding whether to vote for Biden. This was done by the biased and dishonest media and social media, who additionally had been reporting only negative (in many cases, dishonest) stories about Trump for years. Can you not acknowledge that those things likely had a significant effect on the election results?

We can disagree as to the whether there were many of few voting irregularities, but please consider the three points above.

Trump destroyed his legacy by supporting g and encouraging insurrection against our nation with false pretext the election was rigged.
Therefore he’s a lying cheating con man traitor to our nation.

[scook]

Everyone here is fully aware of your opinion of Trump. Is it possible for you to consider the simple points I made?

[bgreene]

Everyone here is fully aware of your opinion of Trump. Is it possible for you to consider the simple points I made?


Its not an opinion its a fact Trump supported and encouraged insurrection against our nation with false pretext the election was rigged.
Therefore hes a lying cheating con man traitor to our nation.

Mr self proclaimed law and order President trump did nothing for hours to stop the violence despite pleas from many including his own family.
Fact

[scook]

So that’s a no - you cannot consider the points I made, even the ones completely unrelated to Nov 6.

Your extreme version of Nov 6 is definitely your opinion. I agree that he could have done better with it, but your version is much more conspiracy theory than fact. And he certainly supported law enforcement policy and personnel, during which time Biden and his radical left crew were doing their best to support violence, destruction, vilification and defunding of the police.

[bgreene]

So that’s a no - you cannot consider the points I made, even the ones completely unrelated to Nov 6.

Your extreme version of Nov 6 is definitely your opinion. I agree that he could have done better with it, but your version is much more conspiracy theory than fact. And he certainly supported law enforcement policy and personnel, during which time Biden and his radical left crew were doing their best to support violence, destruction, vilification and defunding of the police.

My “ view “ of the election results on Nov 6 ? Have you lost your mind scook ?
What happened was Trump lost at the polls and Biden was elected President .
That’s what happened - it’s not a view or opinion .

When trump beat Hillary by thin margin - he praised our very accurate and fair voting systems .
Trump LOST to Biden and continues the lie otherwise .

These are facts that you ……and others pretend are not the truth.
This is the “ new “ attitude of trump lovers - lying is ok .

[Destroyer]

My “ view “ of the election results on Nov 6 ? Have you lost your mind scook ?
What happened was Trump lost at the polls and Biden was elected President .
That’s what happened - it’s not a view or opinion .

When trump beat Hillary by thin margin - he praised our very accurate and fair voting systems .
Trump LOST to Biden and continues the lie otherwise .

These are facts that you ……and others pretend are not the truth.
This is the “ new “ attitude of trump lovers - lying is ok .

Might I remind you that when HRC lost to President Trump there was no national mail in balloting, which became a huge opportunity for the Democrats to indulge in the illegal practice of ballot harvesting which they did to great effect.

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[bgreene]

Might I remind you that when HRC lost to President Trump there was no national mail in balloting, which became a huge opportunity for the Democrats to indulge in the illegal practice of ballot harvesting which they did to great effect.

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“ ballot harvesting “ claims destroyer - another proven false .

[Destroyer]

“ ballot harvesting “ claims destroyer - another proven false .

Actually, it's been proven with videos on YouTube where you can see a woman signing the ballots, then dropping them into a mailbox, then going back to her car and signing a bunch more and putting them in the box, over and over. Additionally there were over 140,000 irregularities in ballots in one state that all seemed to be magically in Biden's favor. (That's still be tracked, since they know the name of the person they think did it).

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[bgreene]

Actually, it's been proven with videos on YouTube where you can see a woman signing the ballots, then dropping them into a mailbox, then going back to her car and signing a bunch more and putting them in the box, over and over. Additionally there were over 140,000 irregularities in ballots in one state that all seemed to be magically in Biden's favor. (That's still be tracked, since they know the name of the person they think did it).

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More nonsense - trump lost by over 8 MILLION POPULAR VOTES and he lost the electoral too

[Destroyer]

More nonsense - trump lost by over 8 MILLION POPULAR VOTES and he lost the electoral too

Well, ya. I thought we had established that months ago.

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[bgreene]

Well, ya. I thought we had established that months ago.

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Tell that to the lying cheating con man traitor trump

[scook]

Your “traitor” accusation is also getting pretty boring and tiresome.

Someone who is in danger of being killed who leaves one of their own behind enemy lines, might be called a coward - someone who leaves a great number of his own behind enemy lines when there isn’t the least bit of danger to himself, only the possibility of political advantage, pandering to his base, is absolutely a traitor. Biden is a traitor, Trump, not so much.

[bgreene]

Your “traitor” accusation is also getting pretty boring and tiresome.

Someone who is in danger of being killed who leaves one of their own behind enemy lines, might be called a coward - someone who leaves a great number of his own behind enemy lines when there isn’t the least bit of danger to himself, only the possibility of political advantage, pandering to his base, is absolutely a traitor. Biden is a traitor, Trump, not so much.

If you’re bored stop posting. TRUTH however is you likely enjoy the discourse - proven by virtue of your continued posts.

Trumps a traitor for his role in the Jan 6, 2021 insurrection attempt.
And …..for other lessor offenses.

[scook]

I enjoy discourse and have repeatedly encouraged you to engage in it. What you write could hardly be called discourse by anyone who understands the meaning of the word.

Trump’s “involvement” in Nov 6, as described by you is very definitely opinion, and alleging undefined lesser offenses as traitorous is pretty weak. As a point of clarification, “lessor” offenses, as you wrote, would be offenses committed by someone “leasing” property.

It doesn’t look like you’ll be able to control yourself and quit posting your far left talking points, but there will probably be someone here to refute them as you do.

[bgreene]

I enjoy discourse and have repeatedly encouraged you to engage in it. What you write could hardly be called discourse by anyone who understands the meaning of the word.

Trump’s “involvement” in Nov 6, as described by you is very definitely opinion, and alleging undefined lesser offenses as traitorous is pretty weak. As a point of clarification, “lessor” offenses, as you wrote, would be offenses committed by someone “leasing” property.

It doesn’t look like you’ll be able to control yourself and quit posting your far left talking points, but there will probably be someone here to refute them as you do.


" alleged " claims scook..... record shows Trump was " begged " to speak up against his violent mob.
And of course your endless insults.......

[scook]

Well, there’s very little in common between your constant snarky, childish attempts at insults and replies that are honest, accurate descriptions of your behavior.

You repeat well worn left wing media and democrat talking points with no evidence that you’ve applied any critical thinking in the process.

[bgreene]

This threads about the FACT that Trumps held in contempt of court and his attempt at avoidance denied .

[Destroyer]

This threads about the FACT that Trumps held in contempt of court and his attempt at avoidance denied .

And once again, when a comment hit's home, the topic magically changes back to the original topic. In other words, once again an avoidance of the previous comment.

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[bgreene]

And once again, when a comment hit's home, the topic magically changes back to the original topic. In other words, once again an avoidance of the previous comment.

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Contempt of court - this IS the thread

[scook]

If it is about Trump being held in contempt, a part of normal legal process, then is is also about normal and customary legal process, where a ruling can be appealed.

Your confirmation bias doesn't allow you to withhold your opinion until the situation is adjudicated. You WANT to believe anything negative about Trump, so you can't control your gleeful reporting of the "fact" that he's guilty of all manner of things and is therefor "avoiding" his punishment.

[bgreene]

If it is about Trump being held in contempt, a part of normal legal process, then is is also about normal and customary legal process, where a ruling can be appealed.

Your confirmation bias doesn't allow you to withhold your opinion until the situation is adjudicated. You WANT to believe anything negative about Trump, so you can't control your gleeful reporting of the "fact" that he's guilty of all manner of things and is therefor "avoiding" his punishment.

Wrong - just the facts scookie , just the facts

[scook]

The facts are as I stated them. If your understanding of the legal system is as limited as you demonstrate, you shouldn’t be starting a thread like this.

[bgreene]

The facts are as I stated them. If your understanding of the legal system is as limited as you demonstrate, you shouldn’t be starting a thread like this.

Judge rejected trumps appeal - FACT

[scook]

If you had any experience observing court proceedings, or any honest knowledge of the process, you would know that courts often get it wrong. Yes, it may be a fact that the judge ruled one way or another, but that certainly doesn’t make the ruling factually correct.

I’ve witnessed a clever (of course, dishonest) lawyer perpetuate a lie on a court that resulted in a completely unjust ruling that cost the defendant a huge amount of money, and another similar result, solely due to prejudice on the part of the judge.

Resisting document production and appealing rulings in a politically motivated witch hunt is pretty rational behavior. One can only imagine the support you would be throwing behind one of your lying democrats in a parallel situation.

[bgreene]

If you had any experience observing court proceedings, or any honest knowledge of the process, you would know that courts often get it wrong. Yes, it may be a fact that the judge ruled one way or another, but that certainly doesn’t make the ruling factually correct.

I’ve witnessed a clever (of course, dishonest) lawyer perpetuate a lie on a court that resulted in a completely unjust ruling that cost the defendant a huge amount of money, and another similar result, solely due to prejudice on the part of the judge.

Resisting document production and appealing rulings in a politically motivated witch hunt is pretty rational behavior. One can only imagine the support you would be throwing behind one of your lying democrats in a parallel situation.

The proven and obviously guilty are guilty scook - Democrat or Republican .

[scook]

Well, since it’s not proven until a court rules and then is subject to error on the part of the court, you are allowing your EXTREME confirmation bias the convict in your mind - only. Once again, completely unconcerned about the obviously guilty democrats - obvious through observation of their public behavior.

[bgreene]

Well, since it’s not proven until a court rules and then is subject to error on the part of the court, you are allowing your EXTREME confirmation bias the convict in your mind - only. Once again, completely unconcerned about the obviously guilty democrats - obvious through observation of their public behavior.

Scook - this thread is about the FACT that judge held Trump in contempt of court AND REJECTED his appeal. This is NOT a bias ….just a FACT.

[scook]

It’s really a platform for you to gleefully “report” your opinion that Trump is a crook and attempting to avoid what he has coming to him. You’ve made that very clear - this statement looks a lot like one of those denials you are constantly, inaccurately accusing others of.

[bgreene]

It’s really a platform for you to gleefully “report” your opinion that Trump is a crook and attempting to avoid what he has coming to him. You’ve made that very clear - this statement looks a lot like one of those denials you are constantly, inaccurately accusing others of.

Scook - the judge held trump on contempt of court and denied his appeal.
It’s just what happened . Not an opinion just a fact.

[scook]

Which, as I pointed out, is important to you as another opportunity to presume Trump’s guilt in the associated “investigation” and stroke your own ego in the process of gleefully trumpeting it.

[bgreene]

Which, as I pointed out, is important to you as another opportunity to presume Trump’s guilt in the associated “investigation” and stroke your own ego in the process of gleefully trumpeting it.

It’s the news and fact scook - you don’t like it that’s your problem .
How you think I “ feel about it “ is irrelevant to the FACT.
But it’s the FACT . Trump held in contempt of court and his appeal denied.

[Destroyer]

It’s the news and fact scook - you don’t like it that’s your problem .
How you think I “ feel about it “ is irrelevant to the FACT.
But it’s the FACT . Trump held in contempt of court and his appeal denied.

I believe an appeal has been filed to a higher court and everything is on hold pending the outcome of that appeal.

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[bgreene]

I believe an appeal has been filed to a higher court and everything is on hold pending the outcome of that appeal.

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The higher court REJECTED Trumps appeal - it’s not on “ hold “
Try checking before making a claim…..

https://abc7ny.com/donald-trump-contempt-appeal-letitia-james-appellate-division/11815097/

[Destroyer]

The higher court REJECTED Trumps appeal - it***8217;s not on ***8220; hold ***8220;
Try checking before making a claim***8230;..

https://abc7ny.com/donald-trump-contempt-appeal-letitia-james-appellate-division/11815097/

Interesting. So even though Trump and his company have produced literally millions of pages of documents, the racist judge still wants more. And the Appellate Judge denied Trumps appeal, so the witch hunt goes on. I hope that Trumps suit against the judge is successful and he takes her for all she has. Meanwhile, I guess we'll all have to wait until the next installment of this soap opera.

As for my checking, I was correct. Trump DID file an appeal to a higher court exactly as I claimed. I was not aware that it had been rejected.

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[bgreene]

Interesting. So even though Trump and his company have produced literally millions of pages of documents, the racist judge still wants more. And the Appellate Judge denied Trumps appeal, so the witch hunt goes on. I hope that Trumps suit against the judge is successful and he takes her for all she has. Meanwhile, I guess we'll all have to wait until the next installment of this soap opera.

As for my checking, I was correct. Trump DID file an appeal to a higher court exactly as I claimed. I was not aware that it had been rejected.

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The SPECIFIC documents requested were NOT provided by trump .
That’s WHY he was held in contempt of court and that’s WHY higher court rejected his appeal.

[Destroyer]

The SPECIFIC documents requested were NOT provided by trump .
That’s WHY he was held in contempt of court and that’s WHY higher court rejected his appeal.



They said they do not believe him when he said he does not have the documents. So this is really about who you believe, or perhaps a way to make Trump look bad by asking for something they already know that he doesn't have.

Perhaps you believe in magic. I believe it's impossible to produce something that you do not possess. I wonder what those requested missing documents contain.

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[bgreene]

They said they do not believe him when he said he does not have the documents. So this is really about who you believe, or perhaps a way to make Trump look bad by asking for something they already know that he doesn't have.

Perhaps you believe in magic. I believe it's impossible to produce something that you do not possess. I wonder what those requested missing documents contain.

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Court holds Trump in contempt . That’s the status .

[bgreene]

Judge lifts Trump contempt of court ruling - with contingencies .

https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/11/politics/donald-trump-new-york-judge-civil-contempt/index.html

[Destroyer]

Judge lifts Trump contempt of court ruling - with contingencies .

https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/11/politics/donald-trump-new-york-judge-civil-contempt/index.html

Yep. one of them being that Trump has to pay $110,000 in accumulated fines. Personally it smacks of legal extorsion by the court to me, but that's just my opinion. Time will tell as this witch hunt plays out.

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[bgreene]

Yep. one of them being that Trump has to pay $110,000 in accumulated fines. Personally it smacks of legal extorsion by the court to me, but that's just my opinion. Time will tell as this witch hunt plays out.

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Of course the key document are “ not available “ from Trump .

[bgreene]

Now trying to get the documents Trump took to Florida.
Good luck - likely he had all cheating related paperwork shredded.


https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/12/politics/trump-documents-mar-a-lago/index.html

[Destroyer]

Now trying to get the documents Trump took to Florida.
Good luck - likely he had all cheating related paperwork shredded.


https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/12/politics/trump-documents-mar-a-lago/index.html

More opinion with zero factual evidence. What IS factual is that Trump has already provided over one million pages of documents to that kangaroo court. I would tend to think if he had the documents (whatever they are) he would have provided them also. If the court thinks that the National Archives has the documents why didn't they just subpoena them in the beginning instead of making Trump look for them and pay that fine? (or maybe the whole idea was to make trump look bad and pay money?)

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[bgreene]

More opinion with zero factual evidence. What IS factual is that Trump has already provided over one million pages of documents to that kangaroo court. I would tend to think if he had the documents (whatever they are) he would have provided them also. If the court thinks that the National Archives has the documents why didn't they just subpoena them in the beginning instead of making Trump look for them and pay that fine? (or maybe the whole idea was to make trump look bad and pay money?)

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That’s your opinion - the law and the judge says otherwise

[scook]

The “law” doesn’t “say” anything. It’s something judges or juries “apply” in decisions.

If you had any actual experience with the court system, you would know that judges and juries often err. Sometimes, it’s due to incompetence, prejudice or outright dishonesty of the judge, sometimes due to buying the lies of a clever lawyer - I’m this case, it seems likely that the judge is prejudiced. In any case, you claim certainty, heavily imputing guilt to Trump, when you are probably 100% ignorant of the facts of the case.

[bgreene]

The “law” doesn’t “say” anything. It’s something judges or juries “apply” in decisions.

If you had any actual experience with the court system, you would know that judges and juries often err. Sometimes, it’s due to incompetence, prejudice or outright dishonesty of the judge, sometimes due to buying the lies of a clever lawyer - I’m this case, it seems likely that the judge is prejudiced. In any case, you claim certainty, heavily imputing guilt to Trump, when you are probably 100% ignorant of the facts of the case.

You claim all legal challenges to trump are either biased or unfair .
You claim I’m probably 100 % ignorant to the facts.
And you write about “ bias”. That’s ……funny !

[scook]

You’re just really into lying aren’t you? I have never claimed that all legal challenges to Trump are biased or unfair, I’m pointing out that you are quick to believe they are all fair and pronounce his guilt, at least by insinuation. I think most of them probably are biased and unfair, having observer the unceasing attacks on him, which you hypocritically deny, primarily by ignoring all proven supporting facts.

You may not be 100% ignorant of court function, but you’ve shown no evidence of understanding of it.

There’s nothing funny about your extreme bias in a time of such deep, destructive division, and your snarky deflection with your “that’s funny” and your “hahahahaha’s” are frankly disgusting.

[bgreene]

You’re just really into lying aren’t you? I have never claimed that all legal challenges to Trump are biased or unfair, I’m pointing out that you are quick to believe they are all fair and pronounce his guilt, at least by insinuation. I think most of them probably are biased and unfair, having observer the unceasing attacks on him, which you hypocritically deny, primarily by ignoring all proven supporting facts.

You may not be 100% ignorant of court function, but you’ve shown no evidence of understanding of it.

There’s nothing funny about your extreme bias in a time of such deep, destructive division, and your snarky deflection with your “that’s funny” and your “hahahahaha’s” are frankly disgusting.

Oh you think MOST of the legal challenges trump faces are biased and unfair .
Guess how many times trumps been sued as compared to Obama and Biden ?

You think my posting the words “ funny and hahaha” are disgusting ?
I think forcing women to birth babies from rape and incest is disgusting !
Your priorities and perceptions are “ funny”

[Destroyer]

Oh you think MOST of the legal challenges trump faces are biased and unfair .
Guess how many times trumps been sued as compared to Obama and Biden ?

You think my posting the words ***8220; funny and hahaha***8221; are disgusting ?
I think forcing women to birth babies from rape and incest is disgusting !
Your priorities and perceptions are ***8220; funny***8221;

To answer your questions:

1) Yes, I think that most of the legal challenges that Trump faces are biased and unfair. I think they are just part of the never ending quest by the Democrats to prevent Trump, by whatever means possible, from running again in 2024.

2) No one is forcing ANY woman to birth babies that were conceived from rape or incest. Some states permit abortions in that case, some don't. But most blue states, including the one we live in are available. In fact, Murphy was on TV this morning stating that he's made it possible for women, even from out of state, to have free abortions in NJ, paid for by the taxpayers. So we now live in a state where murder is not only condoned, it's paid for.

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[bgreene]

You’re just really into lying aren’t you? I have never claimed that all legal challenges to Trump are biased or unfair, I’m pointing out that you are quick to believe they are all fair and pronounce his guilt, at least by insinuation. I think most of them probably are biased and unfair, having observer the unceasing attacks on him, which you hypocritically deny, primarily by ignoring all proven supporting facts.

You may not be 100% ignorant of court function, but you’ve shown no evidence of understanding of it.

There’s nothing funny about your extreme bias in a time of such deep, destructive division, and your snarky deflection with your “that’s funny” and your “hahahahaha’s” are frankly disgusting.

To answer your questions:

1) Yes, I think that most of the legal challenges that Trump faces are biased and unfair. I think they are just part of the never ending quest by the Democrats to prevent Trump, by whatever means possible, from running again in 2024.

2) No one is forcing ANY woman to birth babies that were conceived from rape or incest. Some states permit abortions in that case, some don't. But most blue states, including the one we live in are available. In fact, Murphy was on TV this morning stating that he's made it possible for women, even from out of state, to have free abortions in NJ, paid for by the taxpayers. So we now live in a state where murder is not only condoned, it's paid for.

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Not yet destroyer - but as you know overturning Roe WILL ALLOW states these disgusting regulations. 26 states will make abortion illegal - 17 will make it illegal in rape and incest.
Sick !

[scook]

So, by all means, let's ignore the Constitution when it serves your agenda. While we're at it, let's interpret it to allow for offing poor old grandpa when he becomes inconvenient.

[bgreene]

So, by all means, let's ignore the Constitution when it serves your agenda. While we're at it, let's interpret it to allow for offing poor old grandpa when he becomes inconvenient.

You’re WRONG as usual scook ….

Roe v. Wade, 410 U.S. 113 (1973), was a landmark decision of the U.S. Supreme Court in which the Court ruled that the Constitution of the United States protects a pregnant woman's liberty to choose to have an abortion without excessive government restriction.

[scook]

But when the Supreme Court finds that the decision was in error and was bad law (completely unrelated how many people approved or disapproved of the policy, or the policy itself), now it’s what, unconstitutional?

You support the policy and I, for the most part, don’t. I think that, like anyone, a woman has a right to self defense, so no question that if the pregnancy threatens death or serious health problems, it can be terminated. I understand rape and incest, though still lament the ending of a human life. I don’t support murdering babies because they’re inconvenient.

[bgreene]

But when the Supreme Court finds that the decision was in error and was bad law (completely unrelated how many people approved or disapproved of the policy, or the policy itself), now it’s what, unconstitutional?

You support the policy and I, for the most part, don’t. I think that, like anyone, a woman has a right to self defense, so no question that if the pregnancy threatens death or serious health problems, it can be terminated. I understand rape and incest, though still lament the ending of a human life. I don’t support murdering babies because they’re inconvenient.

Oh you “ understand rape and incest “ well isn’t that generous of you.
Tell you what - you get raped by some guy and let’s say men could get pregnant and see how anxious you are to have it .
Men making laws about women ……and the murdering babies bit doesn’t line up with a group of cells with no heart or brain formed yet .

[scook]

Another disingenuous response. Yes, I understand rape and incest, but still lament the ending of a life.

You know very well that under the lay you support, fully viable babies have been partially delivered and had their spinal columns snipped to kill them. That’s murder and it’s despicable.

[bgreene]

Another disingenuous response. Yes, I understand rape and incest, but still lament the ending of a life.

You know very well that under the lay you support, fully viable babies have been partially delivered and had their spinal columns snipped to kill them. That’s murder and it’s despicable.

Oh you “ understand “ but won’t come out against it

[bgreene]

Judge holds trump in contempt of court

[Destroyer]

Judge holds trump in contempt of court

Here we go again. Sidestepping previous comments when (and only when) it suits you.

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[bgreene]

Here we go again. Sidestepping previous comments when (and only when) it suits you.

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This THREAD is about the FACT that Trumps held in contempt of court.

[scook]

If you’re so concerned about the subject of the thread being the simple fact that Trump has been held in contempt, you should probably stay on that subject yourself.