Republican Kevin McCarthy caught lying

[bgreene]

The NEW YORK TIMES ran a story reporting Republican Kevin McCarthy said trump should resign because of his connection to the Jan 6 Capitol attack .

McCarthy then DENIED the Times report - which trump lovers calling it “ fake news” etc, etc.

Then the Times posted the VOICE RECORDING of McCarthy saying that very thing - that trump should resign.

McCarthy - caught in his LIE has now gone silent - likely working on his “ excuse”

FACTS and the TRUTH

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/kevin-mccarthy-capitol-riot-donald-trump_n_6262aa3ce4b0d077485f34ab

[bgreene]

What ? No excuses to post yet ? Silent as McCarthy now that he was CAUGHT LYING .

No claiming it was fake news because the New York Times reported it ?

[scook]

I’ll believe it if I listen to the recording and analyze the wording of the accusation(s). It’s so common for democrats and their dishonest, complicit media supporters to parse words to make the truth into a lie, state opinion as fact, and just outright lie themselves that nothing they represent can be taken at face value.

I’m kind of busy, so won’t likely get to that anytime soon, and given the extreme lack of veracity of the democrats, you glomming onto what MAY be one Republican not telling the truth isn’t very impressive.

If I find it to be true, I won’t have any trouble accepting it. I wonder if you’ll ever acknowledge what despicable liars the democrats have been and how destructive their policies are?

[bgreene]

I’ll believe it if I listen to the recording and analyze the wording of the accusation(s). It’s so common for democrats and their dishonest, complicit media supporters to parse words to make the truth into a lie, state opinion as fact, and just outright lie themselves that nothing they represent can be taken at face value.

I’m kind of busy, so won’t likely get to that anytime soon, and given the extreme lack of veracity of the democrats, you glomming onto what MAY be one Republican not telling the truth isn’t very impressive.

If I find it to be true, I won’t have any trouble accepting it. I wonder if you’ll ever acknowledge what despicable liars the democrats have been and how destructive their policies are?

Well here is McCarthy for you to hear so you can “ have no trouble accepting it”
And - McCarthys NOT denying it now that he’s been caught LYING


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qhxCMp9w3ZM

[bgreene]

McCarthy also on tape saying of Trump that he’s “ had it with this guy.”

But of course in public he said “ I never said that “ ……until OOPS his voice on tape saying it !!!!

[bgreene]

28 views and all is quite in “ fake news land”

Seems the fake news is very TRUE and ACCURATE

[scook]

If it’s true, it’ll probably cost him. What a shock it would be if democrats actually paid a price for lying. I wonder if the “laws” will close in on lying Hillary for her Steele document, they sure gave Bill a pass on his chronic lying.

[bgreene]

If it’s true, it’ll probably cost him. What a shock it would be if democrats actually paid a price for lying. I wonder if the “laws” will close in on lying Hillary for her Steele document, they sure gave Bill a pass on his chronic lying.

“ IF it’s true says scook “

The man is on tape -he lied, got caught and is not denying it…………… but still Trump lover writes “ if it’s true “

[scook]

I write “if it’s true” because I haven’t heard the recording, haven’t seen the material about the accusations and certainly don’t believe it on the strength of you saying it.

Are you aware that snarky isn’t the same thing as clever or intelligent? It doesn’t appear so.

[bgreene]

I write “if it’s true” because I haven’t heard the recording, haven’t seen the material about the accusations and certainly don’t believe it on the strength of you saying it.

Are you aware that snarky isn’t the same thing as clever or intelligent? It doesn’t appear so.

A. Recording …..I posted it and it’s readily available on internet
B. News …………..this report was posted by ALL news sources including FOX that did not deny it.
C. Me………………..not surprised you “ don’t believe me” . Hahah you can’t handle the truth / facts

So perhaps you’re “ just avoiding this news “
Hahaha

[Destroyer]

Even if McCarthy did say it. So what? That was his opinion at the time. He, like everyone else, is allowed to have an opinion and also like everyone else is allowed to change it as time and circumstances change. it proves NOTHING other than some obscure footnote in history.

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[bgreene]

Even if McCarthy did say it. So what? That was his opinion at the time. He, like everyone else, is allowed to have an opinion and also like everyone else is allowed to change it as time and circumstances change. it proves NOTHING other than some obscure footnote in history.

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“ even if “ says destroyer - as if McCarthys OWN VOICE ON TAPE may not be true ….

McCarthy LIED - said he never said it’s his opinion trump should resign - then was caught by his own reordered voice .

You guys are what’s known as “ a piece of work “
FACT DENIERS

[bgreene]

McCarthy “ changing his mind” isn’t the issue .

FACT IS

McCarthy DENIED he ever spoke with associate advising he planned to advise trump to resign.
He called it all a lie…..until the voice recording of him speaking those exact words was played !

He also said of trump “ I’ve had it with this guy”
So this LIAR McCarthy will likely be our next Speaker of the House.
With a proven record of LYING .

[scook]

Ha, ha, ha - good grief. I’ll get to it when and if I decide to. I’m doing actual work on a number of things that are important to me and my family - your posts, as biased and one sided as they are don’t rise instantly to the top of my priorities.

You would probably get more respect if you could control your mindless, snarky, not clever or remotely accurate, clumsy attempts at jabs.

[bgreene]

So when McCarthy becomes the next speaker, he’ll be introduced as the Liar of the House

But republicans respect lying ….after all Trump was the Liar in Chief for 4 years

[scook]

I’m pretty sure there’s nothing anyone could do to take the title of “Liar of the House” from Pelosi. Remember, it’s the democrats who have and continue to make lying the status quo.

You not caring in the least about that fact, doesn’t mitigate the fact that the lying, cheating traitorous democrats are, through incompetence and misguided ideology driven policies, doing huge damage to the country.

But, hey - in your exceptionally narrow, rigid, biased mind, “Republican, conservative, non-far left people” BAD!

[bgreene]

I’m pretty sure there’s nothing anyone could do to take the title of “Liar of the House” from Pelosi. Remember, it’s the democrats who have and continue to make lying the status quo.

You not caring in the least about that fact, doesn’t mitigate the fact that the lying, cheating traitorous democrats are, through incompetence and misguided ideology driven policies, doing huge damage to the country.

But, hey - in your exceptionally narrow, rigid, biased mind, “Republican, conservative, non-far left people” BAD!

Just more insults from you scook …and more “ what about bla bla bla” to avoid the truth and facts of this post .

[scook]

You know, I did a little experiment when you returned after a few days off from posting. I was extremely careful to be respectful and to only address the things you were posting, without evaluation of your motives or how far off the rails you were.

Immediately, when your conclusions were challenged, you resorted to your snarky attempts at insults. Even then, I have made my responses accurate evaluations of your bad behavior - and yes, your behavior is so bad that accurate evaluations of it are prone to be insulting (if you don't reflect on them in a self evaluative way.

You are the instigator of insults across this forum. Fortunately, your opinions don't garner enough respect for anyone to actually be insulted by you.

As for who's lying and to what extent it affects anything, we are all (except apparently you) quite capable of forming our own conclusions and balancing the imperfections of politicians with their policies, competence and leadership abilities.

[bgreene]

I’ll give you a “ little experiment “ to try scook.

Try dealing with the FACTS starting with:
1. Trump lost by wide margin to Biden - but pushed the big lie that he won.
2. Trump encouraged the attack on our Capitol in his words to “ be strong be wild “ along with his lawyer who encouraged “ election by combat “ or such.
3. Trumps been lying on so many things - 40,000 is the recorded amount, give or take.
4. Trumps a disgrace - he took the word of Putin over Americans .

[scook]

You might try an experiment - try not thinking you’re so brilliant that you can disrespect everyone who has an honest disagreement with you by ignoring anything you don’t agree with and attacking with your pathetic attempts at insults, and NEVER making an honest, direct response to anything.

I’m quite able to deal with the facts - Biden’s in the WhiteHouse, much to the detriment of the country - those are both facts.

I don’t know how crooked the election was, but it was certainly a good deal more so than you acknowledge with your lawyer speak about all the “certifications” by the likes of the FBI, which actively and traitorously propelled attempts to destroy a presidency and associated individuals. Your refusal to acknowledge that clearly proven fact makes you an extremely unpatriotic person. You obviously value your anti-Trump/Republican/conservative hatred and bias more than any concern for the current destruction of the country.

His words may have been taken as encouragement for the minuscule fraction of the people who were violent, but you certain conclusion that he knowingly encouraged it is opinion, not unlikely from someone as wildly biased as you.

The 40,000 lies is obviously a blatant lie built on taking his words to mean things that they clearly didn’t mean. You don’t like him and your confirmation bias makes you want to believe things he never said - I observed that happening throughout his presidency often. When he said Mexico wasn’t sending their best people, he was a racist (notwithstanding Mexican not being a race and that it had nothing whatever to do with what he was talking about. When he stopped travel from China at the beginning of the pandemic, he was a xenophobe - that’s too stupid to rate further comment. The list goes on.

His judgment that American agencies were not telling the truth early on was probably spot on. It’s not disgraceful, it’s called savvy and being able to use experienced judgment. That’s pretty obviously something you don’t understand.

[bgreene]

More endless insults from scook .

And your comment ref the minuscule number of violent attackers at our Capitol is wrong.
Over 2,000 people were violent and about 140 police officers injured in the insurrection attempt encouraged by the lying cheating con man trump - Putin loving traitor that you love.

Imagine a President of our United States publicly siding with a murderous dictator over our American people.
Yes - trump did that and scook supports it . You should go to the Ukraine and tell them how you feel.

[scook]

More endless dishonest nonsense from bgreene - I said minuscule fraction of the demonstrators - you’ve learned well from your news sources. Misquote so as to present a dishonest picture that supports your dishonest narrative.

There were nothing like 2000 violent people - certainly not by the standards of the rampant domestic terrorists that ravaged cities for months on end.

And you’re still mired in the “mud” of your willful ignorance about “our American people”, apparently people like you, who knowingly and maliciously lied over and over and over and over to try to destroy Trump. Probably a good idea not to take their words at face value under the conditions.

Don’t open your eyes with your head in the sand, it will be very uncomfortable.

[bgreene]

George Floyd death related civil unrest was NOT an insurrection attempt on our government largely supported by the president who LOST the election !!

It was trump supporters who attacked our Capitol police .
Republicans

[scook]

Well, it was some far right folks - pretty far to the right of Republicans (but you like to use the broad brush, like your CNN lying heroes) to smear a huge group with the actions of a few. The violence at the capitol was very bad.

The George Floyd (actually much wider anarchist) rioting was just as misguided, way more destructive and supported by Biden and his far left crew.

[bgreene]

You might try an experiment - try not thinking you’re so brilliant that you can disrespect everyone who has an honest disagreement with you by ignoring anything you don’t agree with and attacking with your pathetic attempts at insults, and NEVER making an honest, direct response to anything.

I’m quite able to deal with the facts - Biden’s in the WhiteHouse, much to the detriment of the country - those are both facts.

I don’t know how crooked the election was, but it was certainly a good deal more so than you acknowledge with your lawyer speak about all the “certifications” by the likes of the FBI, which actively and traitorously propelled attempts to destroy a presidency and associated individuals. Your refusal to acknowledge that clearly proven fact makes you an extremely unpatriotic person. You obviously value your anti-Trump/Republican/conservative hatred and bias more than any concern for the current destruction of the country.

His words may have been taken as encouragement for the minuscule fraction of the people who were violent, but you certain conclusion that he knowingly encouraged it is opinion, not unlikely from someone as wildly biased as you.

The 40,000 lies is obviously a blatant lie built on taking his words to mean things that they clearly didn’t mean. You don’t like him and your confirmation bias makes you want to believe things he never said - I observed that happening throughout his presidency often. When he said Mexico wasn’t sending their best people, he was a racist (notwithstanding Mexican not being a race and that it had nothing whatever to do with what he was talking about. When he stopped travel from China at the beginning of the pandemic, he was a xenophobe - that’s too stupid to rate further comment. The list goes on.

His judgment that American agencies were not telling the truth early on was probably spot on. It’s not disgraceful, it’s called savvy and being able to use experienced judgment. That’s pretty obviously something you don’t understand.

A. YOU keep referring to my high intelligence etc., not me but thanks

B. Trumps a traitor to vocally take the word of the lying murderer Putin over our good American intelligence professionals . Disgusting

[bgreene]

And McCarthy just keeps on LYING .

Now he’s even LYING about his LIE.
And this man may become speaker of the house .
A proven LIAR that won’t even confess the TRUTH after being caught on tape !!!!


https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/26/politics/kevin-mccarthy-trump-resign-jan-6/index.html

[scook]

Looks to me like CNN is trying to manufacture a lie. He said he must have misunderstood the question, and it's obvious he's not interested in CNN's gotcha nonsense when he's trying to address actual serious issues like Biden's abject failure at the boarder.

You dig up two "possible" less than truthful statements by Republicans and now being a LIAR is the new way to be a major player in the party? This is brainless, even for you and your far left world view.

How about focusing on important issues, one of which is what bald-faced liars massive numbers of democrats are. My observation is that you pretty much have to check the "Yes I am a LIAR" box to get a democrat seat on a committee in congress.

[bgreene]

Hahah scooks trying to cover for McCarthy !!

McCarthys now going with “ oh I didn’t understand the question”

A 6th grader could easily understand the question .

LIAR !

[Destroyer]

Hahah scooks trying to cover for McCarthy !!

McCarthys now going with “ oh I didn’t understand the question”

A 6th grader could easily understand the question .

LIAR !

I love how you judge people based on how the left controlled media tells you to judge them. Never mind what they say, never mind anything they produce as evidence. If the left controlled media says something then that's the way that it must be. Because of course they never lie...... :you:

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[bgreene]

I love how you judge people based on how the left controlled media tells you to judge them. Never mind what they say, never mind anything they produce as evidence. If the left controlled media says something then that's the way that it must be. Because of course they never lie...... :you:

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Says destroyer who wrote even if he did say it - so what .

The so what is he DENIED it and called The NY Times report a completely false lie.
Until the NT Times played the audio of McCarthy saying EXACTLY what he denied !
Now all of a sudden start the excuses.

You guys are amazingly willing to follow trumps lead and lie and deny.
You wont even be honest enough to accept this blatant fact.
Wow.

[scook]

“We” aren’t denying and certainly are not lying about anything.

It’s not about honesty on our part, it’s that we’re not stupid enough to believe anything you say without well sourced documentation, which you seldom provide. Your links, more often than not, provide no more than heavily biased opinions (often probably fabrications) reported as facts.

And regarding your “so what” objection - the article you posted posited that most or all politicians lie - their difficulty with McCarthy was that he wasn’t clever about it. There’s a good demonstration of the integrity of your press sources.

[bgreene]

“We” aren’t denying and certainly are not lying about anything.

It’s not about honesty on our part, it’s that we’re not stupid enough to believe anything you say without well sourced documentation, which you seldom provide. Your links, more often than not, provide no more than heavily biased opinions (often probably fabrications) reported as facts.

And regarding your “so what” objection - the article you posted posited that most or all politicians lie - their difficulty with McCarthy was that he wasn’t clever about it. There’s a good demonstration of the integrity of your press sources.

More scook excuses - and you’re correct - it’s not about honest on your part - you’re all about supporting the lying cheating con man traitor trump no matter what he does.

[scook]

You’re all about making false statements/accusations about people who disagree with you.

[bgreene]

You’re all about making false statements/accusations about people who disagree with you.

This thread is about:

McCarthy said the NYTimes report was a lie - and he never said he mentioned the idea that trump should resign !
Then ….oops The NY Times played the voice recording of McCatyhy saying that EXACT thing.

All went silent from McCarthy the liar, until he came up with his feeble excuse, which you support . Hahaha sad.

[scook]

Then you should lay off the lying insults and stick to the subject of your thread.

[bgreene]

Then you should lay off the lying insults and stick to the subject of your thread.

As stated - the FACTS of McCarthys lie, denial, and then getting caught are crystal clear and indisputable . “ Funny “ how you scook continue the excuses for him.

[scook]

Well, there’s another lie. I don’t excuse him, I just don’t take your word for anything without seeing credible verifying documentation, which I haven’t had time to assess. I’m the context of the mess created by democrats, including wholesale lying, this issue hasn’t risen to a priority that’s worth much of my attention.

[bgreene]

Well, there’s another lie. I don’t excuse him, I just don’t take your word for anything without seeing credible verifying documentation, which I haven’t had time to assess. I’m the context of the mess created by democrats, including wholesale lying, this issue hasn’t risen to a priority that’s worth much of my attention.

Ok since this is absolute FACT - how about you reply with affirmation?
So far you made excuse “ oh he didn’t understand the question” excuse

[scook]

No excuse, I said that he had said he must have misunderstood the question and either he's telling the truth about that, or not.

When and if I look into it and see that it's a fact, I won't have a problem acknowledging it.

[bgreene]

No excuse, I said that he had said he must have misunderstood the question and either he's telling the truth about that, or not.

When and if I look into it and see that it's a fact, I won't have a problem acknowledging it.

No way McCarthy misunderstood the simple and direct question of “ did you say to peer you’d suggest Trump resign “. He called that report a lie - until they played the audio of him saying that exact thing .
Everyone knows he lied but you claimed to be “ too busy doing real work to check the story”
Meanwhile you have time to write endlessly long posts on this site which takes much more time.
You’re such a phony scook - amazing .

[scook]

I write the posts when I'm winding down for the day and can't run sound to keep from waking someone. True or not, I don't have much interest in following this issue. I may look into it or not - certainly not right now.

I'm not remotely phony, but you are absolutely a jackass with your infantile attempts at insults.

[bgreene]

I write the posts when I'm winding down for the day and can't run sound to keep from waking someone. True or not, I don't have much interest in following this issue. I may look into it or not - certainly not right now.

I'm not remotely phony, but you are absolutely a jackass with your infantile attempts at insults.

Now now scookie don’t have a temper tantrum and get vulgar .
McCarthy lied and got caught .
You won’t admit it because that’s how trumpers behave .

[scook]

And that response is a lie in every respect and another of your clumsy, infantile attempts at an insult.

[bgreene]

And that response is a lie in every respect and another of your clumsy, infantile attempts at an insult.

Scook - tending towards cursing on this web site isn’t nice and isn’t wanted so please calm down and knock it off.

McCarthy - caught lying plain and simple as his own words recorded and played back .

[Destroyer]

Scook - tending towards cursing on this web site isn’t nice and isn’t wanted so please calm down and knock it off.

McCarthy - caught lying plain and simple as his own words recorded and played back .

And once again, I ask... SO WHAT? Everyone is entitled to have an opinion, no matter how wrong if might be. You say he lied, he said he was taken out of context. I say so what? If doesn't change anything. It's just another red herring thrown up by you. Much ado over nothing...

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[bgreene]

And once again, I ask... SO WHAT? Everyone is entitled to have an opinion, no matter how wrong if might be. You say he lied, he said he was taken out of context. I say so what? If doesn't change anything. It's just another red herring thrown up by you. Much ado over nothing...

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“ much to do over nothing” says destroyer who’s carried on and on about things that aren’t even true - conspiracy theores and such.

In this case it’s House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy who doesn’t even have the good character to say “ yes at the time my feeling were trump should resign over his Jan 6 role.”
Instead, McCarthy LIED claiming he never said it — until The NY Times played audio of him saying that exact thing.

And this LIAR to be Speaker of the House .

[Destroyer]

“ much to do over nothing” says destroyer who’s carried on and on about things that aren’t even true - conspiracy theores and such.

In this case it’s House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy who doesn’t even have the good character to say “ yes at the time my feeling were trump should resign over his Jan 6 role.”
Instead, McCarthy LIED claiming he never said it — until The NY Times played audio of him saying that exact thing.

And this LIAR to be Speaker of the House .

Oh, you mean like Pelosi is right now? Arguably the worst liar in the history of Congress. You're worried about McCarthy making one lie when she is guilty of thousands over the course of her reign? Give me a break.

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[bgreene]

Oh, you mean like Pelosi is right now? Arguably the worst liar in the history of Congress. You're worried about McCarthy making one lie when she is guilty of thousands over the course of her reign? Give me a break.

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For a guy with history of whining about “ changing the subject” you sure do it a lot.
This threads about the liar McCarthy .
Write your own thread .

[Destroyer]

For a guy with history of whining about “ changing the subject” you sure do it a lot.
This threads about the liar McCarthy .
Write your own thread .


Really? I thought this was a thread about people lying. But okay, strike my last post. Instead I'll just repeat myself. Ref McCarthy lying... SO WHAT?

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[bgreene]

Really? I thought this was a thread about people lying. But okay, strike my last post. Instead I'll just repeat myself. Ref McCarthy lying... SO WHAT?

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So what says destroyer - exactly my point . Welcome to the age of Trump where lying doesn’t matter. McCarthy doesn’t even have the character to just say “ yeh at the time that was my feeling “. Instead - he lied.

[scook]

1) Destroyer’s comment was very much on topic.

2) Did you miss the part where his post and MANY others pointed out Pelosi and MANY other democrats are abject, pathological despicable liars, running for years and years? Republicans would have to lie a LOT, to even compete in a minor way with democrats. Your statements about Republicans ushering in an era of lying, making it the status quo is a huge, obvious malicious lie on your part.

[bgreene]

1) Destroyer’s comment was very much on topic.

2) Did you miss the part where his post and MANY others pointed out Pelosi and MANY other democrats are abject, pathological despicable liars, running for years and years? Republicans would have to lie a LOT, to even compete in a minor way with democrats. Your statements about Republicans ushering in an era of lying, making it the status quo is a huge, obvious malicious lie on your part.

1. This thread about McCarthy the proven liar
2. Write your own thread
3. You’re a FACT denier and excuse maker

[scook]

I haven’t denied anything - I’ve pointed out where you’re off the rails. You, however are the denier in chief - NEVER acknowledging that you are picking around for a few minor potential examples while ignoring what persistent, malicious liars many democrats are what’s actually going on in the country and the world.

Add to that your denials of Biden’s incompetence and you’re the champ.

[bgreene]

I haven’t denied anything - I’ve pointed out where you’re off the rails. You, however are the denier in chief - NEVER acknowledging that you are picking around for a few minor potential examples while ignoring what persistent, malicious liars many democrats are what’s actually going on in the country and the world.

Add to that your denials of Biden’s incompetence and you’re the champ.

More denials and insults ….as usual

[scook]

You can’t have more denials when there were none to begin with. Denials are your department.

[bgreene]

This threads about Republican Minority House Leader Kevin McKarthy’s very clear and obvious lie…..caught on tape…..his own words …..that you deny scook.

[scook]

You are sounding pretty foolish, lying about what I do. I have never denied anything about this topic, only your extreme framing of it and how you completely ignore the larger picture - what lying despicable hacks the democrats have proven to be. I’ve said I wouldn’t take your word for anything without independently verifying it - that would be very foolish.

[Destroyer]

"I have in my possession, absolute, positive proof that President Trump and Putin colluded to rig the 2016 election". --- Adam Shiff during the first impeachment hearing of President Trump. He lied under oath, not once but several times, as well as innumerable times on various left wing media outlets like CNN and NBC and MSNBC.

Of course, it turns out that the Steele document and the entire Russian collusion scandal was a hoax and Shiff and Clinton and Pelosi and Schumer and Nadler and several others (including the heads of and senior members of both the FBI and the CIA) lied through their teeth.

So before anyone tries to burn McCarthy or any other Republican for lying, they might want to check if their own parties pants are still on fire.

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[bgreene]

"I have in my possession, absolute, positive proof that President Trump and Putin colluded to rig the 2016 election". --- Adam Shiff during the first impeachment hearing of President Trump. He lied under oath, not once but several times, as well as innumerable times on various left wing media outlets like CNN and NBC and MSNBC.

Of course, it turns out that the Steele document and the entire Russian collusion scandal was a hoax and Shiff and Clinton and Pelosi and Schumer and Nadler and several others (including the heads of and senior members of both the FBI and the CIA) lied through their teeth.

So before anyone tries to burn McCarthy or any other Republican for lying, they might want to check if their own parties pants are still on fire.

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Let’s here it for Destroyer for additional wheel barrow full of excuses and avoidance !

This threads about the blatant lie by McCarthy

[scook]

A very insignificant lie, if it is in fact a lie, affecting virtually nothing of consequence.

Compared to the plethora of criminal lies engaged in by the despicable, disgusting mob named by Destroyer, repeatedly slandering the president and attempting to destroy his presidency, your obsession with denigrating all republicans and non-left wing zealots is childish, and in no way contributing to anything useful. I don't know how an ego like yours gets to the place where you are such a vigorous participant in driving the already deep division in the country, but it's shameful.

[bgreene]

A very insignificant lie, if it is in fact a lie, affecting virtually nothing of consequence.

Compared to the plethora of criminal lies engaged in by the despicable, disgusting mob named by Destroyer, repeatedly slandering the president and attempting to destroy his presidency, your obsession with denigrating all republicans and non-left wing zealots is childish, and in no way contributing to anything useful. I don't know how an ego like yours gets to the place where you are such a vigorous participant in driving the already deep division in the country, but it's shameful.

Oh now comes the admonition from scookie.

[Destroyer]

Let’s here it for Destroyer for additional wheel barrow full of excuses and avoidance !

This threads about the blatant lie by McCarthy

Avoidance? Of what? I already gave my opinion of what I thought of the importance of McCarthy's supposed lie was. ZERO, nothing, nada, zip, it is of no importance. The only person it effects is McCarthy's possible future, whereas the people I mentioned and the lies they told effected the entire Country and besmirched the reputation of the President of the United States, all for purely political reasons with no justification.

The real avoidance is your lack of comment about the lies and the people I mentioned. You are avoiding the subject I presented.

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[bgreene]

Avoidance? Of what? I already gave my opinion of what I thought of the importance of McCarthy's supposed lie was. ZERO, nothing, nada, zip, it is of no importance. The only person it effects is McCarthy's possible future, whereas the people I mentioned and the lies they told effected the entire Country and besmirched the reputation of the President of the United States, all for purely political reasons with no justification.

The real avoidance is your lack of comment about the lies and the people I mentioned. You are avoiding the subject I presented.

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McCarthy COULD have told the truth and said “yeh that’s how I felt at the time” but instead he attacked the NY TIMES report as total lie - until he got caught .
This man showed his lack of character and should therefore not become speaker of the House.
But he will — because this is the new Republican Party - where lying is supported .

[scook]

Your hypocrisy is really disgusting.

[bgreene]

Your hypocrisy is really disgusting.

No hypocrisy scook - I write the TRUTH and the FACTS about the lying cheating con man traitor Trump and some of those associated with him.

I don’t write about every other wrong in the world - other wrongs don’t make Trumps lies and tattorial guilt somehow ok . Write your own thread on whatever you want - but you don’t

[scook]

Well, you may be the only one here unaware that you don’t post truth and facts, but, for the most part, biased opinion. The PBS article is a shining example.

Posting only negative, and biased, material about only the non-far left, is hypocritical and you ignoring of the real threats makes you irrelevant.

[bgreene]

Well, you may be the only one here unaware that you don’t post truth and facts, but, for the most part, biased opinion. The PBS article is a shining example.

Posting only negative, and biased, material about only the non-far left, is hypocritical and you ignoring of the real threats makes you irrelevant.

Scook calls me “ irrelevant “ yet he posts daily ,even many times a day in response to me.
And non stop personal insults .

Well sir , you just keep “ being you “ and I’ll keep posting the FACTS and TRUTHS that you can’t bear.

[scook]

There’s a big difference between commenting on you being off the rails and your arrogant, childish, clumsy attempts at insults. You could actually benefit from self examination, based on those comments.

[bgreene]

There’s a big difference between commenting on you being off the rails and your arrogant, childish, clumsy attempts at insults. You could actually benefit from self examination, based on those comments.

McCarthy said “ he believed trump should resign” …..lied that he didn’t say so……then got caught when his own recorded words played back .

That’s what this threads about - it’s a fact , it’s the truth .

[scook]

It certainly contains a LOT of what I just mentioned, and you could certainly benefit from some objective self examination.

[bgreene]

It certainly contains a LOT of what I just mentioned, and you could certainly benefit from some objective self examination.


This threads about McCarthy caught LYING.
How or what you think of me is irrelevant to this FACT.
Write your own threads .

[Destroyer]

This threads about McCarthy caught LYING.
How or what you think of me is irrelevant to this FACT.
Write your own threads .

Why do you think that it's ok for you to go off script and write whatever you want, whenever you want, when it suits you, even iof it has nothing to do with the title of the thread, but when someone pins you down on one of your posts you sidestep and tell everyone that the thread is about XYZ and that they have to make their own posts?

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[bgreene]

Why do you think that it's ok for you to go off script and write whatever you want, whenever you want, when it suits you, even iof it has nothing to do with the title of the thread, but when someone pins you down on one of your posts you sidestep and tell everyone that the thread is about XYZ and that they have to make their own posts?

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Youre WRONG AGAIN destroyer - I write the thread topic - you and scook then change the subject which I respond to accordingly .

This threads about McCarthy caught LYING.
How or what you think of me is irrelevant to this FACT.
Write your own threads

[Destroyer]

Youre WRONG AGAIN destroyer - I write the thread topic - you and scook then change the subject which I respond to accordingly .

This threads about McCarthy caught LYING.
How or what you think of me is irrelevant to this FACT.
Write your own threads

Pointing out the differences between McCarthy's lie and the Democrat parties multitudinous. concerted plethora of lies is staying on topic, so I fail to see what your problem is.

I do write my own threads from time to time, as you very well know.

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[bgreene]

Pointing out the differences between McCarthy's lie and the Democrat parties multitudinous. concerted plethora of lies is staying on topic, so I fail to see what your problem is.

I do write my own threads from time to time, as you very well know.

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This threads about McCarthy caught LYING.
How or what you think of me is irrelevant to this FACT.
Write your own threads

[scook]

And as Destroyer points out, putting your standard, anti-Republican/conservative post in the broader context of prolific and seriously damaging lying on the part of the far left politicians and media sources you support is entirely relevant to this thread.

If you don’t want your posts consistently challenged, you may want to pull your head out of the sand, look at what’s really going on and make your posts relevant to where the country is right now and the implications of that for the future. Your absurd conspiracy theory about Trump the Nazi is foolish, when we’re experiencing Biden the Nazi right now. Your obsession with posting every tiny bit of dirt you can dig up on any non-far left person, while completely ignoring the massive lying campaigns and encouragement of destruction, violence and murder by your far left mob is frankly despicable.

[bgreene]

And as Destroyer points out, putting your standard, anti-Republican/conservative post in the broader context of prolific and seriously damaging lying on the part of the far left politicians and media sources you support is entirely relevant to this thread.

If you don***8217;t want your posts consistently challenged, you may want to pull your head out of the sand, look at what***8217;s really going on and make your posts relevant to where the country is right now and the implications of that for the future. Your absurd conspiracy theory about Trump the Nazi is foolish, when we***8217;re experiencing Biden the Nazi right now. Your obsession with posting every tiny bit of dirt you can dig up on any non-far left person, while completely ignoring the massive lying campaigns and encouragement of destruction, violence and murder by your far left mob is frankly despicable.

Well scook - since youre raining down insults , I find you despicable for trying to cover for the lying cheating con man traitor trump.
And for your non stop personal insults .

[scook]

Wow, nothing in your reply has anything to do with this post of mine, or anything else I’ve ever posted.

[bgreene]

Wow, nothing in your reply has anything to do with this post of mine, or anything else I’ve ever posted.

Has everything to do with you

[scook]

You demonstrate your displeasure with being corrected very vigorously. I’m not raining down insults, I’m providing an honest evaluation of your avoidance and very unbalanced view of affairs. You are so extreme in your imbalance and so supportive of the unproductive division which is, in my opinion, very much driven by the left that I expressed my opinion that your BEHAVIOR is despicable.

I will correct my statement in this respect, Biden the Nazi, per se is an overstatement, but he is pursuing one policy that you attributed to Trump and claimed that it was part of his Nazification plan - the “truth commission”, and several others that were active in the Nazi program.

[bgreene]

You demonstrate your displeasure with being corrected very vigorously. I’m not raining down insults, I’m providing an honest evaluation of your avoidance and very unbalanced view of affairs. You are so extreme in your imbalance and so supportive of the unproductive division which is, in my opinion, very much driven by the left that I expressed my opinion that your BEHAVIOR is despicable.

I will correct my statement in this respect, Biden the Nazi, per se is an overstatement, but he is pursuing one policy that you attributed to Trump and claimed that it was part of his Nazification plan - the “truth commission”, and several others that were active in the Nazi program.

Scookie - you state your nasty opinion of me on nearly all of your posts.
Insults and denial ….your “ contribution “ .

Me…I’m sticking with posting FACTS and the TRUTH…….with occasional response to your nasty comments … Now go have a cookie….scookie.

[scook]

I don’t actually state any nasty opinions of you, I comment on you behavior. No one here, that I’m aware of, wants to have this kind of exchanges. You began the political friction with your, in most peoples’ opinion, strident and pretty obnoxious posts and then when challenged, maybe not so gently, ramped it up with more strident posts, progressing to gleefully posting ANYTHING negative you could dig up on Republicans or conservatives, much of which is highly suspect in the minds of most of the guys here.

It really appears that a major motivation of yours is simply to be antagonistic. It also appears that you don’t care much, if at all, about the very serious damage being done to our very great country by the highly polarizing behavior of the left. Some examples of that are: the thoroughly dishonest impeachment process, based on information fully known to be false and adding lies that there was hard evidence; officially attacking free speech with the “truth commission”; and the active support for the ongoing rioting, destruction of property and peoples’ livelihoods, defunding the police, resulting in a very significant increase in murders and injuries of police and very numerous murders of people of color.

You express legitimate concerns about Trump and the risks of an ego that large occupying the presidency. It’s the opinion of most of the others here that your concern is extreme, beyond anything that’s at all likely to occur under your narrative, and that the current administration is extremely bad for the country and world in its own, different way.

Does any of this make sense to you?

[bgreene]

I don’t actually state any nasty opinions of you, I comment on you behavior. No one here, that I’m aware of, wants to have this kind of exchanges. You began the political friction with your, in most peoples’ opinion, strident and pretty obnoxious posts and then when challenged, maybe not so gently, ramped it up with more strident posts, progressing to gleefully posting ANYTHING negative you could dig up on Republicans or conservatives, much of which is highly suspect in the minds of most of the guys here.

It really appears that a major motivation of yours is simply to be antagonistic. It also appears that you don’t care much, if at all, about the very serious damage being done to our very great country by the highly polarizing behavior of the left. Some examples of that are: the thoroughly dishonest impeachment process, based on information fully known to be false and adding lies that there was hard evidence; officially attacking free speech with the “truth commission”; and the active support for the ongoing rioting, destruction of property and peoples’ livelihoods, defunding the police, resulting in a very significant increase in murders and injuries of police and very numerous murders of people of color.

You express legitimate concerns about Trump and the risks of an ego that large occupying the presidency. It’s the opinion of most of the others here that your concern is extreme, beyond anything that’s at all likely to occur under your narrative, and that the current administration is extremely bad for the country and world in its own, different way.

Does any of this make sense to you?

FACTS and the TRUTH make sense to me scook - not your opinions about me or about my motivation.
Facts ….from who’s posted vulgar, cursing rants at me, to your near constant belittling most everything about me and what I post.
But that’s how you and other roll, not how I roll.
And as you should have noticed by now, does not affect my continued posting facts.

[scook]

Well, it doesn’t affect your continuous posting but you’re alone here thinking that you primarily post facts and consistent in not responding to the most thoughtful queries of you. Unfortunately, it is exactly how you roll.

[bgreene]

Well, it doesn’t affect your continuous posting but you’re alone here thinking that you primarily post facts and consistent in not responding to the most thoughtful queries of you. Unfortunately, it is exactly how you roll.

Scook:
I’m not interested in popularity on this site.
I do not seek the “ support” of others here .
This is the political forum and I post facts and the truth…..not conspiracy theories .

[scook]

The FACT is that many of your “facts” are suspect and some are just plain lies from your trusted by you, but proven lying sources, and you do post conspiracy theories, the chiefest of which is your Trump as Nazi scenario.

Your incessant repeating of your favorite lines doesn’t make them any truer than when they were false the first time you said them.

[bgreene]

The FACT is that many of your “facts” are suspect and some are just plain lies from your trusted by you, but proven lying sources, and you do post conspiracy theories, the chiefest of which is your Trump as Nazi scenario.

Your incessant repeating of your favorite lines doesn’t make them any truer than when they were false the first time you said them.

Well that’s your OPINION, and as for the parallel of APPROACH Trump uses …..mirroring Hilters initial approach, this is true also:
1. He identifies a so called enemy and continues a lie
2. He then attaches nationalistic pride to stir the people
3. He tries to insert loyalists to key positions until power gained to assert absolute power.
I did not refer to Trump as a Nazi so try being accurate .

Next ……just because you label information as “ fake news” does not make it so.
Trump started that claim of labeling anything unflattering as “ fake” which his followers embrace.

[scook]

1. Your #1 is a chapter from the democrat playbook - it’s pretty obvious that there were plenty of actual enemies, e.g. the FBI, lying congressional democrats pursuing every imaginable fraudulent “investigation”, Clinton’s stirring up their fake document, CNN, etc.

2. After Obama apologizing for America’s greatness all over the world, a little America first was appropriate. If you recall, when attacked by some dishonest partisan reporter on the subject, he said that of course he was “America first” and any country’s leader who didn’t put their country first shouldn’t have the job.

3. All competent leaders/executives place their people in positions where loyalty is important. Remember when he kept some Obama people in the WhiteHouse and they were actively undermining his policies, lying and leaking information? Gaining absolute power? There’s your #1 conspiracy theory again. It’s pretty appropriate for someone under the level of attack he constantly lived with to try to consolidate power, in an effort to get things done. Your left wing politicians certainly do that.

You did make clear that you viewed him as a Hitler-like actor - my shortening it to that phrase is not inaccurate or misleading.

My giving clear, undeniable proof that your news sources are lying DOES make “fake news” an honest label and he called the plethora of lies and misinformation the likes of CNN, NYT, etc. tried to trowel onto him “fake news” because that’s exactly what it was. You couldn’t have watched his news conferences and the wildly dishonest questions the far left reporters asked and not be aware of that.

Your entire post is just more of your extreme, biased narrative.

[bgreene]

1. Your #1 is a chapter from the democrat playbook - it’s pretty obvious that there were plenty of actual enemies, e.g. the FBI, lying congressional democrats pursuing every imaginable fraudulent “investigation”, Clinton’s stirring up their fake document, CNN, etc.

2. After Obama apologizing for America’s greatness all over the world, a little America first was appropriate. If you recall, when attacked by some dishonest partisan reporter on the subject, he said that of course he was “America first” and any country’s leader who didn’t put their country first shouldn’t have the job.

3. All competent leaders/executives place their people in positions where loyalty is important. Remember when he kept some Obama people in the WhiteHouse and they were actively undermining his policies, lying and leaking information? Gaining absolute power? There’s your #1 conspiracy theory again. It’s pretty appropriate for someone under the level of attack he constantly lived with to try to consolidate power, in an effort to get things done. Your left wing politicians certainly do that.

You did make clear that you viewed him as a Hitler-like actor - my shortening it to that phrase is not inaccurate or misleading.

My giving clear, undeniable proof that your news sources are lying DOES make “fake news” an honest label and he called the plethora of lies and misinformation the likes of CNN, NYT, etc. tried to trowel onto him “fake news” because that’s exactly what it was. You couldn’t have watched his news conferences and the wildly dishonest questions the far left reporters asked and not be aware of that.

Your entire post is just more of your extreme, biased narrative.

Masterpiece of nonsense.
You sure post a LOT for a guy who claims “ too busy doing real work”, bored with my posts , and done arguing.
All this youve posted - FACT.

[scook]

If it’s a masterpiece, it’s one that very accurately debunks your previous post in its entirety, just a factual analysis, without insults.

Off to do real work.

[bgreene]

If it’s a masterpiece, it’s one that very accurately debunks your previous post in its entirety, just a factual analysis, without insults.

Off to do real work.

Masterpiece all right - of nonsense.

McCarthy lied , got caught , but that’s the Republican way now .
Lie - get caught, deny .

[scook]

There you go again. You posted several comments, I debunked all of them and your reply completely ignores my accurate response that showed your points to be nonsense.

[bgreene]

There you go again. You posted several comments, I debunked all of them and your reply completely ignores my accurate response that showed your points to be nonsense.

Oh you “ debunked “ McCarthys lie hu.
Blatant lie, caught on tape, but you debunked it .
Wow you’re a magician!!!

[scook]

No, and your transparent, fake misunderstanding/misquoting of what I said is confirming your dishonesty. I debunked YOUR nonsense.

No more time to deal with your nonsense - off to do real work.

[bgreene]

No, and your transparent, fake misunderstanding/misquoting of what I said is confirming your dishonesty. I debunked YOUR nonsense.

No more time to deal with your nonsense - off to do real work.

This threads McCarthys lie - and him getting caught.
No excuses, no yeh but etc., he lied and got caught .

No more time to post Scookie ? Hahahah you’ll be back as always !!!!

[Destroyer]

This threads McCarthys lie - and him getting caught.
No excuses, no yeh but etc., he lied and got caught .

No more time to post Scookie ? Hahahah you’ll be back as always !!!!

1) Please stop with the Scookie personal insult.

2) Scook never said he was leaving, just that he had work to do. I'm sure we can expect to hear more from him in the near future. I look forward to more of his insight.

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[bgreene]

McCarthys very straight forward LIE - caught on tape / that you trump lovers deny.

This is the future of America - it’s already here - with Trumps election LIE .

[scook]

As you say - WRONG, at least as it applies to Republicans.

First, I haven’t noticed anyone here denying it. Of course, no one is likely to believe anything you post without verification from a credible source, which you rarely provide. I’m not going to waste my time verifying something this inconsequential when democrats have firmly established scurrilous, destructive lying as how it’s been and will likely continue “in America”.

The big lie here is you saying that “Trump lovers” deny it, and that’s YOUR lie.

And to the most incessant claim you make, proclaiming something you desperately want to believe, but don’t know as fact, we’ll see what light the 2000 Mules documentary sheds on the election fraud. I’m willing to wait and evaluate the evidence it presents. It is pretty strange that, if I hear correctly, Trump got more votes than any presidential candidate in history and was yet beaten by millions of votes by Biden for whom there there was little enthusiasm, even among democrats. It may well be that the big lie is the left claiming that it’s Trump’s big lie.

You will doubtless continue or even heighten your biased demagoguery while we more rational people are content to look at evidence gathered in what appears to be a thorough and honest investigation. From what I’ve heard about it so far, this private investigation did nothing that’s not WELL within the capabilities of the FBI, but they weren’t interested in digging for the truth, certainly not after participating in the “worst threat to our democracy” in history - the fraudulent impeachment of a sitting president.

[Destroyer]

Here is a link to the 2000 mules documentary. You can watch it free on YouTube now after registering.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s04c-zQRVNU

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[bgreene]

As you say - WRONG, at least as it applies to Republicans.

First, I haven’t noticed anyone here denying it. Of course, no one is likely to believe anything you post without verification from a credible source, which you rarely provide. I’m not going to waste my time verifying something this inconsequential when democrats have firmly established scurrilous, destructive lying as how it’s been and will likely continue “in America”.

The big lie here is you saying that “Trump lovers” deny it, and that’s YOUR lie.

And to the most incessant claim you make, proclaiming something you desperately want to believe, but don’t know as fact, we’ll see what light the 2000 Mules documentary sheds on the election fraud. I’m willing to wait and evaluate the evidence it presents. It is pretty strange that, if I hear correctly, Trump got more votes than any presidential candidate in history and was yet beaten by millions of votes by Biden for whom there there was little enthusiasm, even among democrats. It may well be that the big lie is the left claiming that it’s Trump’s big lie.

You will doubtless continue or even heighten your biased demagoguery while we more rational people are content to look at evidence gathered in what appears to be a thorough and honest investigation. From what I’ve heard about it so far, this private investigation did nothing that’s not WELL within the capabilities of the FBI, but they weren’t interested in digging for the truth, certainly not after participating in the “worst threat to our democracy” in history - the fraudulent impeachment of a sitting president.

All your work furiously posting excuses ….
McCarthys very straight forward LIE - caught on tape / that you trump lovers deny.
McCarthy said ….” NYTimes report is a lie - I never talked about suggesting trump resign “
NYTimes then played McCarthys recorded tape saying that exact thing, caught in his lie.

This is the future of America - it’s already here - with Trumps election LIE

[scook]

With this post, you have become a certified liar. Neither I, nor anyone else that I've noticed has "denied" the McCarthy situation, yet you continue to LIE that we have.

If you're not aware that the democrats have established themselves as pathological, scurrilous, destructive, criminal liars, in the extreme, after witnessing their behavior attacking Trump before and during his presidency, you are not paying attention.

One inconsequential lie, which I'm not remotely interested in verifying wouldn't establish anything, but you can't seem to stop pumping it out.

Your disrespect for the site and those who are honest and thoughtful in their replies to your posts has certainly reached a point where your welcome here is in question.

[bgreene]

With this post, you have become a certified liar. Neither I, nor anyone else that I've noticed has "denied" the McCarthy situation, yet you continue to LIE that we have.

If you're not aware that the democrats have established themselves as pathological, scurrilous, destructive, criminal liars, in the extreme, after witnessing their behavior attacking Trump before and during his presidency, you are not paying attention.

One inconsequential lie, which I'm not remotely interested in verifying wouldn't establish anything, but you can't seem to stop pumping it out.

Your disrespect for the site and those who are honest and thoughtful in their replies to your posts has certainly reached a point where your welcome here is in question.

Masterpiece of bitterness and anger.
Meanwhile - McCarthy lied and got caught . Just accept this fact .

[Destroyer]

Masterpiece of bitterness and anger.
Meanwhile - McCarthy lied and got caught . Just accept this fact .

Yep, he did. We've admitted as much. Also pointed out that it proves nothing. It's a non-starter. So he lied. So what? One lie, compared to the whoppers that the Dems have and continue to tell is like a drop of water in the ocean. Not really important.

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[scook]

No bitterness or anger, and what I have accepted is that you appear unable to control your absolute BS and answer anyone directly and honestly. All you seem capable of is spewing your ego stroking disrespectful nonsense.

Intellectual honesty is a concept completely foreign to you almost 100% of the time.

Now that Destroyer has acknowledged that McCarthy lied, obviously having verified it independently of your claim, I’ll acknowledge it as well. He is a trustworthy intellectually honest man.

I’ll also repeat that it is a lie that has no significant consequence, so is of no interest to me. He’ll obviously pay some kind of price for it, but it in no way affects any national interest, unlike the lies leading to the fake Russian collusion, hugely expensive, completely dishonest “investigation” and impeachment trial, or even a very recent one where the Whitehouse tweeted, among other lies, that when Biden took office there was no vaccine available. Of course at the time Trump’s near miraculous speed, causing more than one vaccine to be produced couldn’t be accepted, so the democrats lied and were certainly responsible for deaths, saying the ”Trump” vaccine was unsafe. This was, of course a lie for political gain and many of their slavish followers took it to heart, clearly causing the deaths of many who refused the vaccine on the lying word of Biden and his despicable crew.

You really should pay some attention to the huge lies of the democrats that have real consequences.

[bgreene]

No bitterness or anger, and what I have accepted is that you appear unable to control your absolute BS and answer anyone directly and honestly. All you seem capable of is spewing your ego stroking disrespectful nonsense.

Intellectual honesty is a concept completely foreign to you almost 100% of the time.

Now that Destroyer has acknowledged that McCarthy lied, obviously having verified it independently of your claim, I’ll acknowledge it as well. He is a trustworthy intellectually honest man.

I’ll also repeat that it is a lie that has no significant consequence, so is of no interest to me. He’ll obviously pay some kind of price for it, but it in no way affects any national interest, unlike the lies leading to the fake Russian collusion, hugely expensive, completely dishonest “investigation” and impeachment trial, or even a very recent one where the Whitehouse tweeted, among other lies, that when Biden took office there was no vaccine available. Of course at the time Trump’s near miraculous speed, causing more than one vaccine to be produced couldn’t be accepted, so the democrats lied and were certainly responsible for deaths, saying the ”Trump” vaccine was unsafe. This was, of course a lie for political gain and many of their slavish followers took it to heart, clearly causing the deaths of many who refused the vaccine on the lying word of Biden and his despicable crew.

You really should pay some attention to the huge lies of the democrats that have real consequences.

So after denying MCarthys lie, now scook accepts the lie because other trump lover does too.
But scook - FACTS and the TRUTH is not based on “ who agrees” it simply is the TRUTH.

You people that refuse to FACT CHECK will bring down our democracy .

And also ……your post above is full of personal insults .
I could do likewise , but I’m the better man- so go have a cookie - scookie

[scook]

So McCarthy said he didn’t say something that he said and he’s a liar. You say I did something that I didn’t do and you’re a liar. Just applying your own accurate standard to you. You know full well that I NEVER denied the McCarthy lie, yet you continually LIE that I and others did - how does that not make you a serial liar? That’s not a personal insult, it’s a plain, simple observation of your behavior.

Verifying whether something is true or not very much depends on credible sources. You are not a credible source, Destroyer is.

I do factcheck things that I believe to be consequential. To repeat, again, whether McCarthy lied about something he said, which is only important to you because you believe it would support your extreme hatred of Trump isn’t consequential.

As for personal insults, my post included accurate comments about your deflection, disingenuousness and bias, if they’re insulting, some self analysis is in order. In that connection, your “better man” claim is further evidence that self reflection is in order - it’s obnoxious, arrogant and far from the truth.

[bgreene]

So McCarthy said he didn’t say something that he said and he’s a liar. You say I did something that I didn’t do and you’re a liar. Just applying your own accurate standard to you. You know full well that I NEVER denied the McCarthy lie, yet you continually LIE that I and others did - how does that not make you a serial liar? That’s not a personal insult, it’s a plain, simple observation of your behavior.

Verifying whether something is true or not very much depends on credible sources. You are not a credible source, Destroyer is.

I do factcheck things that I believe to be consequential. To repeat, again, whether McCarthy lied about something he said, which is only important to you because you believe it would support your extreme hatred of Trump isn’t consequential.

As for personal insults, my post included accurate comments about your deflection, disingenuousness and bias, if they’re insulting, some self analysis is in order. In that connection, your “better man” claim is further evidence that self reflection is in order - it’s obnoxious, arrogant and far from the truth.

BIG, HUGE boring and redundant replies from scook ……filled with “ yeh but”, excuses, spin attempts , back peddling, and more insults.

Me…..I stick with nice clean FACTS and the TRUTH.
It’s easy.

[scook]

You are the undisputed king of boring, redundant replies, and the rest of your comments are completely false.

[bgreene]

You are the undisputed king of boring, redundant replies, and the rest of your comments are completely false.

False you say ?
So you say McCarthy didn’t lie ?
This should be good - pass the popcorn, scook’s going to reply with “ bla, bla, bla excuses and denial !!!

[scook]

Here’s a short one - your reply is a blatant, knowing lie. Either you can’t read English or you know that I didn’t say anything like that. In the minds of honest, rational people, that makes you a liar.

[bgreene]

Here’s a short one - your reply is a blatant, knowing lie. Either you can’t read English or you know that I didn’t say anything like that. In the minds of honest, rational people, that makes you a liar.

Calm down

[scook]

Very calm and pointing out that you saying “So you say McCarthy didn’t lie?” is you lying. Just a plain, simple, typical, undisputable lie from you.