Putin the war criminal - worse for Ukraine

[bgreene]

Update attached
Putin’s military committing genocide - murder, rape, torture against the Ukrainian civilians .

Putin gets away with it with threats to use nuclear weapons if NATO joins the fight against him.

Wonder “ what if “ all countries of the free world together told Putin - you have 1 day to stop and retreat or else we will push you out.

Nuc’s …….dictators and tyrants threats to get away with whatever .

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/04/11/russia-ukraine-live-updates.html

[bgreene]

But of course, the lying, cheating con man traitor Donald trump likes Putin very much…AND vocally sided with Putin OVER our best American intelligence people.

Imagine this - a president of our United States vocally siding with an enemy, a dictator, a tyrant murderer of dissension OVER our own people.

Well that’s Donald trump - dictator wanna be.

[Destroyer]

But of course, the lying, cheating con man traitor Donald trump likes Putin very much…AND vocally sided with Putin OVER our best American intelligence people.

Imagine this - a president of our United States vocally siding with an enemy, a dictator, a tyrant murderer of dissension OVER our own people.

Well that’s Donald trump - dictator wanna be.

Whatever you say kid :you:

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[bgreene]

Whatever you say kid :you:

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Yes I’m this case 100% accurate about trump and putin

[Destroyer]

Yes I’m this case 100% accurate about trump and putin

Hmmm... and what about Biden and Putin? Who's "negotiating" for the United States with Iran in the nuclear deal on Biden's behalf? PUTIN. Who paid Biden's son millions of dollars? PUTIN. Who paid Biden's son millions of dollars Xi. Biden is as corrupt as they come, yet you keep repeating some fanciful delusion you have about Trump and Putin. You need to wake up and smell the coffee kid.

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[bgreene]

A. I’m very much awake to this issue
B. Bidens calling Putin a murdered and supporting Ukraine

C. Trump continues to kiss up to Putin

[Destroyer]

A. I’m very much awake to this issue
B. Bidens calling Putin a murdered and supporting Ukraine

C. Trump continues to kiss up to Putin

How is Trump continuing to kiss up to Putin? He(Trump) isn't even in office. Respectfully, what is the source for your statement?

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[bgreene]

How is Trump continuing to kiss up to Putin? He(Trump) isn't even in office. Respectfully, what is the source for your statement?

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Trump requesting dirt from Putin - on the current President of our United States while Putin is committing extreme war crimes is kissing up to Putin.

It’s so morally wrong at this time there almost aren’t words to describe how low trump will go.

[scook]

The actual statement that I heard from Trump was that it would be appropriate for Putin to release truthful, factual information about the apparently extremely corrupt undertakings of Hunter Biden, which as shown by his laptop involve the family.

Of course Putin’s not trustworthy, so anything he provided would need to be verified, but it could be a helpful component of getting at the truth. What looks to actually be vile and despicable is the deep and longstanding corruption in the Biden family, which if properly exposed by the dishonest media and social media would probably have kept that corruption out of the presidency.

You will, no doubt, argue Trumpist corruption, but this is a different subject.

[charlie_the_tuna]

so really, everything is Trump's fault?!? i guess you, like the rest of the liberals believe "president" puddingcup when he says "putin's inflation". "putin's gas prices". "putin's this and putin's that".
from the guy who sees UFOs.
maybe you didn't notice, but politically speaking.... you're outstanding in your field. ALONE!!!

[bgreene]

so really, everything is Trump's fault?!? i guess you, like the rest of the liberals believe "president" puddingcup when he says "putin's inflation". "putin's gas prices". "putin's this and putin's that".
from the guy who sees UFOs.
maybe you didn't notice, but politically speaking.... you're outstanding in your field. ALONE!!!

Charlie - no of course everything IS NOT TRUMPS FAULT.
We’re adults here not children.
I’ve stated the issues with trump very specifically .
I’ve also stated Bidens errors

1. Ref being “ alone”
I may be alone on these issues on this web site- that’s fine with me.
Keep in mind the MAJORITY OF AMERICANS voted Trump out - by over 8 million popular votes.

2. ref UFOS
You don’t like this topic I posted in other forum ?
Ok…..well if you check , it’s a very popular and curious global question.

[scook]

Well, you’ve gone pretty light on Biden’s errors.

All Americans were, over a long period, flagrantly lied to about Trump and nearing the election the lies and far left censorship were stepped up to despicable levels. Only Americans who availed themselves of honest, accurate news sources had FACTS about Biden.

It’s extremely likely that the lying, cheating, conmen & conwomen, traitors to our nation of your trusted, fact checking press created the outcome of the election, even if the votes were honestly counted, which is still in question.

[Destroyer]

Well, you***8217;ve gone pretty light on Biden***8217;s errors.

All Americans were, over a long period, flagrantly lied to about Trump and nearing the election the lies and far left censorship were stepped up to despicable levels. Only Americans who availed themselves of honest, accurate news sources had FACTS about Biden.

It***8217;s extremely likely that the lying, cheating, conmen & conwomen, traitors to our nation of your trusted, fact checking press created the outcome of the election, even if the votes were honestly counted, which is still in question.

Lets not forget that 15% of all people surveyed that voted for Biden now say that had they known about the Hunter Biden laptop (that was deliberately suppressed by those same lying, cheating, conmen & conwomen, traitors to our nation, main stream, far left controlled, socialist democrat communist press) they would have voted for someone other than Biden. 15% of 8 million (BGreen's figure) is 1.5 million votes less. In other words Biden would have lost the election. And as you pointed out there still remains questions on the legitimacy of how some states counted votes as well as the votes themselves.

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[bgreene]

Lets not forget that 15% of all people surveyed that voted for Biden now say that had they known about the Hunter Biden laptop (that was deliberately suppressed by those same lying, cheating, conmen & conwomen, traitors to our nation, main stream, far left controlled, socialist democrat communist press) they would have voted for someone other than Biden. 15% of 8 million (BGreen's figure) is 1.5 million votes less. In other words Biden would have lost the election. And as you pointed out there still remains questions on the legitimacy of how some states counted votes as well as the votes themselves.

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Trump lost by big margin fair and square .
All else is just nonsense like the pillow man who guaranteed he had proof of fraud and presented nothing ….absolutely nothing but meaningless, nonsensical empty computer code

[scook]

Well, you just go on ignoring the FACTS and TRUTH, as is your custom.

[bgreene]

Well, you just go on ignoring the FACTS and TRUTH, as is your custom.

WRONG - the pillow man did claim to have proof and presented NOTHING.
And please - no insults as I focus on the FACTS and the TRUTH .
Always have

[Destroyer]

WRONG - the pillow man did claim to have proof and presented NOTHING.
And please - no insults as I focus on the FACTS and the TRUTH .
Always have

By the pillow man I take it you're talking about Mike Lindel, the CEO of the "My Pillow" Co?

Yes, he presented a lot of computer code. I'm not a programmer so not only do I not know what the code was, I don't even know what the source code for the code was. So I have no idea what was in the code. As to it being meaningless, nonsensical empty computer code how do you know that? Are you a programmer, or are you just taking the word of a biased commentator or "news" source?

[bgreene]

The experts confirmed he presented nothing - just meaningless garbled code with zero information .
Look it up

[Destroyer]

The experts confirmed he presented nothing - just meaningless garbled code with zero information .
Look it up

Well, you made the statement, so I would have thought that you had the proof of your statement readily available.

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[bgreene]

Trumps buddy - the man he trusts more than Americans is murdering the Ukrainian people, and lying about it .

That should bother trump lovers - but it doesn’t and that doesn’t bode well for the future of our nation.

[Destroyer]

Trumps buddy - the man he trusts more than Americans is murdering the Ukrainian people, and lying about it .

That should bother trump lovers - but it doesn’t and that doesn’t bode well for the future of our nation.

Actually what bothers us more is the fast that Russia has paid millions of dollars to Biden's son (and 10% for the big man) so Biden is compromised by Putin whereas Trump never was.

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[bgreene]

Actually what bothers us more is the fast that Russia has paid millions of dollars to Biden's son (and 10% for the big man) so Biden is compromised by Putin whereas Trump never was.

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Oh that claim bothers you more than the SLEEZY trumps love for Putin the murderer ?
Ok. How nice for you.

[Destroyer]

Oh that claim bothers you more than the SLEEZY trumps love for Putin the murderer ?
Ok. How nice for you.

Why yes. The fact that our present President may be corrupted and compromised and in Xi's and Putin's pockets bothers me greatly, as I would think it should bother every American. As to President Trump, you keep repeating that line about how he loves Putin.. Might I ask you to provide some proof to support your claim?
What do you base that upon?

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[bgreene]

Why yes. The fact that our present President may be corrupted and compromised and in Xi's and Putin's pockets bothers me greatly, as I would think it should bother every American. As to President Trump, you keep repeating that line about how he loves Putin.. Might I ask you to provide some proof to support your claim?
What do you base that upon?

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As I posted and re posted …….

[Destroyer]

As I posted and re posted …….

Hmm... I must have missed it. All I can remember is you making some posts about Trump and the Russian collusion hoax. Were there other's more relevant and more truthful?\

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[scook]

He has apparently concluded that Trump loves Putin, based on Trump observing that Putin has maintained power through a kind of genius. It's like lots of deeply flawed, extremely biased conclusions drawn from Trump's comments, where he was simply making an observation, but those words could be twisted dishonestly, or ignorantly to represent him in a negative light.

Of course these conclusions/opinions are posted and reposted and reposted incessantly and represented as reporting facts and truth, which they are certainly not.

[bgreene]

He has apparently concluded that Trump loves Putin, based on Trump observing that Putin has maintained power through a kind of genius. It's like lots of deeply flawed, extremely biased conclusions drawn from Trump's comments, where he was simply making an observation, but those words could be twisted dishonestly, or ignorantly to represent him in a negative light.

Of course these conclusions/opinions are posted and reposted and reposted incessantly and represented as reporting facts and truth, which they are certainly not.


And don’t forget the lying cheating traitor trump comments that he trusts Putin more than American intelligence community. Putin - the lying dictator murderer.

But you don’t care — you just want your cheap gasoline and you’ll sign away our country to trump

[scook]

Do you have any recent example of him trusting Putin more than our intel agencies?

[Destroyer]

And don’t forget the lying cheating traitor trump comments that he trusts Putin more than American intelligence community. Putin - the lying dictator murderer.

But you don’t care — you just want your cheap gasoline and you’ll sign away our country to trump


First, Our "intelligence" community was in bed with the far left Socialist Democrats. Remember when he said he trusted Putin it was over the completely false Steele Dossier that the Clinton campaign manufactured to smear Trump. And as it turned out, the leaders of the CIA, FBI etc. were, in fact, falsifying documents so they could spy on Trump. Trump had good reason to not trust our intelligence community. They were lying.

Second, to the cheap gas comment, yes, you're darned right I want cheap gasoline. It was 2.29 when Trump was in office and it started climbing the same week that Biden took office. HALF of the present $3.90 a gallon price is directly attributable to Biden's shutting down our oil companies with his stupid directives. And now that corrupt crook is dumping 1/3 of our strategic reserve, oil that is supposed to fuel our military in the event of a war, onto the market to keep higher prices that HE created down. I swear I think he's deliberately weakening the US. There's far more evidence that he's a traitor than there ever was about Trump.

Third, as a reminder, President Trump has been out of office for almost a year and a half. He has absolutely no influence on present day situations.

[bgreene]

Wrong - trump keeps spouting his lies as he continues his so called rallies

Cheap gas ! Cheap gas !
The blissfully ignorant will sell out our nation , our democracy , and our environment for it
Not me.

The global economy shifted before and after covid causing global inflation .
But of course the blissfully ignorant think its always a conspiracy

[scook]

Still no response to the point that, for Trump, it was wise to distrust our intel agencies, FBI, lying democrats and their lying allies in the press who were actively undermining and lying about him in an effort to destroy him personally and professionally and going after his administration. Also that the 50+ former intel people swayed voting in the election by dismissing the obviously genuine Hunter Biden laptop (which had been in possession of the FBI plenty long to be thoroughly verified).

In your words, your thread and comments on that subject are “a complete sham”, and I seem to recall you went on with something about despicable, dishonest, etc. - all of those apply as well.

[bgreene]

Still no response to the point that, for Trump, it was wise to distrust our intel agencies, FBI, lying democrats and their lying allies in the press who were actively undermining and lying about him in an effort to destroy him personally and professionally and going after his administration. Also that the 50+ former intel people swayed voting in the election by dismissing the obviously genuine Hunter Biden laptop (which had been in possession of the FBI plenty long to be thoroughly verified).

In your words, your thread and comments on that subject are “a complete sham”, and I seem to recall you went on with something about despicable, dishonest, etc. - all of those apply as well.

40,000 counted and listed LIES from trump during his presidency - most of which are correct.
Trump - Hardly the “ innocent victim”, now claiming he doesn’t have the information per court orders. How convenient.

A United States President siding with RUSSIAN DICTATORS WORD over our own American experts.
Wow ……unthinkable but trump did it.

[scook]

I think the 40,000 lies is very likely a huge lie and says something about the mental health of anyone who would make a job of trying to compile such a list.

What’s truly unthinkable is that out FBI and other agencies, democrats in congress, the disgusting Clinton campaign and the media (but PARTICULARLY the FBI and other official agencies of our government) would blatantly and with premeditation, lie to start and support a completely dishonest campaign to destroy a presidency and the people involved in it.

That is such an egregious breach of the law, any kind of decency, and most certainly not in defense of the constitution, that any American should be appalled and calling for serious repercussions.

You go ahead with your obsession with finding (actual or not) problems with Trump, news that one Republican may have not told the truth (or not) and completely ignore what is certainly the most heinous abuse of power by our sworn institutions in recent, if not our entire history. This is the “democracy” you want? No thank you.

[bgreene]

I think the 40,000 lies is very likely a huge lie and says something about the mental health of anyone who would make a job of trying to compile such a list.

What’s truly unthinkable is that out FBI and other agencies, democrats in congress, the disgusting Clinton campaign and the media (but PARTICULARLY the FBI and other official agencies of our government) would blatantly and with premeditation, lie to start and support a completely dishonest campaign to destroy a presidency and the people involved in it.

That is such an egregious breach of the law, any kind of decency, and most certainly not in defense of the constitution, that any American should be appalled and calling for serious repercussions.

You go ahead with your obsession with finding (actual or not) problems with Trump, news that one Republican may have not told the truth (or not) and completely ignore what is certainly the most heinous abuse of power by our sworn institutions in recent, if not our entire history. This is the “democracy” you want? No thank you.

Yes thank you I will go on fact checking on the crimes of trump.
By the way he’s now in contempt of court .
Of course you’ll blame the sun the moon and the stars but never trump.
Hahah

[scook]

Your “fact checking” is more accurately described as witch hunting.

[Destroyer]

Your “fact checking” is more accurately described as wishful thinking or making things up.

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[bgreene]

Your “fact checking” is more accurately described as wishful thinking or making things up.

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No destroyer - I leave that to you along with your empty conspiracy theories . You and the “ pillow man “ who had nothing, zero.

[scook]

Nope - time for bgreene to go back to the mirror to see who he’s really talking about.

[Destroyer]

No destroyer - I leave that to you along with your empty conspiracy theories . You and the “ pillow man “ who had nothing, zero.

Well, all conspiracy theories are just that, theories. Until of course they are proven to be true. You know, like Hunter's laptop just being Russian disinformation .... until its now proven to be true and was deliberately hidden from the American public until after the election by the far left socialist communist democrats. So I guess that wasn't a conspiracy theory after all.

Or the one about the Steele document about Trump and Putin that has now also proven to be a false democrat generated disinformation smear against President Trump. Nope, I guess that wasn't a conspiracy theory either.

So if anyone wants to stick their head in the sand and pretend that the Dems are not trying to destroy this Country, that Biden isn't corrupted and firmly in the pockets of both Putin and Xi, then by all means go right ahead. But truthfully I marvel at their ignorance.

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[bgreene]

Bidens helping the Ukrainians fight Russian - sending weapons .
Unlike Trump who withheld military aid to Ukraine because he wanted them to “ do him a favor “ seeking dirt on the Bidens .

[scook]

I believe it was VP Biden who arrogantly bragged, in a video, about threatening to withhold aid until the Ukrainian government halted an investigation into Burisma, which could have exposed Hunter Biden’s corrupt dealings - selling access to papa VP. He wasn’t “asking” and they stopped the investigation.

[Destroyer]

Bidens helping the Ukrainians fight Russian - sending weapons .
Unlike Trump who withheld military aid to Ukraine because he wanted them to “ do him a favor “ seeking dirt on the Bidens .

Actually, that's not true and has been disproven many times. The military aid for Ukraine was already paid before President Trump asked them for any information they might have about Hunter Biden and his dealings. That's another of those misinformation ploys the Democrat controlled media is so good at spreading.

.And yes, Biden is helping the Ukrainians with military aid, but it wasn't until both parties started started shouting for him to do more tha the aid really started flowing. Biden is crooked, admit it.

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