How to help the people of Ukraine

[bgreene]

There are SEVERAL secure sites to make donation supporting Ukraine .
Here are two that seem solid

Takes about 2 minutes and use your credit card for additional security

https://secure.wfpusa.org/donate/ukraineconflict-gsst


https://help.rescue.org/donate/ukraine-acq

[Pipe_Dream]

That's nice.

But why did you post essentially the same thing in two different NEW threads 14 minutes apart?

[bgreene]

That's nice.

But why did you post essentially the same thing in two different NEW threads 14 minutes apart?

A. Because wasn’t sure if political or off topic forum
B . Because I chose to .
C. Find something useful to question - such as why trump claims he won the election when we all know he lost

[Pipe_Dream]

A. Because wasn’t sure if political or off topic forum
B . Because I chose to .
C. Find something useful to question - such as why trump claims he won the election when we all know he lost

D. Because you love to repost the same thing over and over . . .

[Pipe_Dream]

As long as we're on the subject

https://www.icm.org/donate/Ukraine/

[bgreene]

D. Because you love to repost the same thing over and over . . .

Poor baby two posts to assist Ukraine too much for you to handle .

[Pipe_Dream]

Poor baby two posts to assist Ukraine too much for you to handle .

Oh bgreene, relax.

Have some bass.

[bgreene]

Oh bgreene, relax.

Have some bass.

Thanks !

[Destroyer]

Oh bgreene, relax.

Have some bass.

Ya.. He can find it at the Bass Barn. Oh wait. No he can't :head:

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[bgreene]

Ya.. He can find it at the Bass Barn. Oh wait. No he can't :head:

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Says the only vulgar cursing poster on this site .

[Destroyer]

Says the only vulgar cursing poster on this site .

Yep, if that's what you want to call me ...go for it. Do you really think I give a damn? For that matter, do you really think anyone else cares? We know you, we know your style. You are impotent. :you:

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[bgreene]

Yep, if that's what you want to call me ...go for it. Do you really think I give a damn? For that matter, do you really think anyone else cares? We know you, we know your style. You are impotent. :you:

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Cursing , vulgar , nasty destroyers back …like fog rolling in to dampen everything.

[scook]

Hmmmmm - cry, cry, cry about not staying on the thread topics and can’t control yourself when it comes to promoting your disingenuous self righteous campaign.

[Destroyer]

Hmmmmm - cry, cry, cry about not staying on the thread topics and can’t control yourself when it comes to promoting your disingenuous self righteous campaign.

It's funny. For some reason I thought this thread was about helping the people of Ukraine?

[bgreene]

Cursing , vulgar , nasty destroyers back …like fog rolling in to dampen everything.

Perfect description

[Destroyer]

Cursing , vulgar , nasty destroyers back …like fog rolling in to dampen everything.

Perfect description

I thought we were supposed to be courteous to each other? :rule:

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[bgreene]

I thought we were supposed to be courteous to each other? :rule:

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Is this your way of honestly apologizing for your previous vulgar cursing rant ?

Over 3 million refugees now from the Ukraine - as Putin commits all kinds of war crimes on the civilians .

[Destroyer]

Is this your way of honestly apologizing for your previous vulgar cursing rant ?

Over 3 million refugees now from the Ukraine - as Putin commits all kinds of war crimes on the civilians .

I have already "honestly" apologized twice for making that post even though I felt I had not done anything wrong. Your opinion is that it was vulgar and cursing but that is not my opinion. I used clinically and grammatically correct words to describe you instead of using curse words. I have no intention of apologizing to you a third time.

Correct on the refugee situation. I think we should take as many as we can. I mean, we've already taken in over 2 million illegal refugees from our open southern border under Biden's term.

[bgreene]

I have already "honestly" apologized twice for making that post even though I felt I had not done anything wrong. Your opinion is that it was vulgar and cursing but that is not my opinion. I used clinically and grammatically correct words to describe you instead of using curse words. I have no intention of apologizing to you a third time.

Correct on the refugee situation. I think we should take as many as we can. I mean, we've already taken in over 2 million illegal refugees from our open southern border under Biden's term.

YOU CALLED ME AN F’IN AZZHOLE and other similar things as much as the edit on this site allows. YOU CALLED ME AN ANUS FOR SEX
VULGAR !
Your “ so called apology” includes DENIALS and is therefore WORTHLESS .

[Destroyer]

YOU CALLED ME AN F’IN AZZHOLE and other similar things as much as the edit on this site allows. YOU CALLED ME AN ANUS FOR SEX
VULGAR !
Your “ so called apology” includes DENIALS and is therefore WORTHLESS .

I stress once again, as to it's being vulgar, that is YOUR OPINION.

MY OPINION is entirely different.

I called you what I thought that you were acting like. However, in an earnest effort to make you feel better and stop rehashing the same post over and over I apologized to you. I am not here to debate with you how sincere you may or may not think it was or wasn't, nor will I issue you another and another and another apology until you feel satisfied as to the veracity of the apology. My advice is to take what you've gotten and move on. That's all you're going to get.

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[bgreene]

I stress once again, as to it's being vulgar, that is YOUR OPINION.

MY OPINION is entirely different.

I called you what I thought that you were acting like. However, in an earnest effort to make you feel better and stop rehashing the same post over and over I apologized to you. I am not here to debate with you how sincere you may or may not think it was or wasn't, nor will I issue you another and another and another apology until you feel satisfied as to the veracity of the apology. My advice is to take what you've gotten and move on. That's all you're going to get.

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You wrote calling me an F’in Azzhole , an anus for sex and other related curses and vulgarity as much as the edit feature would allow.

No one else here has done that - with the excuse of “ well that’s what I thought of you “
No one else uses vulgarity and curses to express their feeling BECAUSE THEY KNOW BETTER AND ARE AT LEAST THAT RESPECTFUL.

Obviously YOU think YOU have the right to express yourself however you choose.
Well …..I DONT do that and that makes me a better man on this nice web site .
You don’t even apologize by fessing up with honesty.

[Destroyer]

You wrote calling me an F’in Azzhole , an anus for sex and other related curses and vulgarity as much as the edit feature would allow.

No one else here has done that - with the excuse of “ well that’s what I thought of you “
No one else uses vulgarity and curses to express their feeling BECAUSE THEY KNOW BETTER AND ARE AT LEAST THAT RESPECTFUL.

Obviously YOU think YOU have the right to express yourself however you choose.
Well …..I DONT do that and that makes me a better man on this nice web site .
You don’t even apologize by fessing up with honesty.

I told you, that's all you're going to get. You have expressed your opinion, I have expressed mine. I called you exactly how I thought you were behaving.
Please move on, nothing more to see here. Lets get back to the post.

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[bgreene]

I told you, that's all you're going to get. You have expressed your opinion, I have expressed mine. I called you exactly how I thought you were behaving.
Please move on, nothing more to see here. Lets get back to the post.

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“ I’ve always been a gentlemen “ …….says destroyer

[Destroyer]

“ I’ve always been a gentlemen “ …….says destroyer

Yep. Always. Now please get back to how you think we should help the people of Ukraine.

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[bgreene]

Yep. Always. Now please get back to how you think we should help the people of Ukraine.

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Does not deserve reply other than this - rejection .

[Destroyer]

Does not deserve reply other than this - rejection .

Rejection? So you don't want to help the people of Ukraine? Then why did you start this thread?

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[bgreene]

Putin - war criminal, murderer , dictator .

And trump admires him.

[scook]

Oh no, Destroyer, time for a nap to recover from bgreene’s “REJECTION”. Will you be able to regain you sense of self after such a trauma?

[Destroyer]

Oh no, Destroyer, time for a nap to recover from bgreene’s “REJECTION”. Will you be able to regain you sense of self after such a trauma?

I'm not sure. It's so traumatic to my psyche. I may have to leave the site for a while. But If I do and then come back he'll make mean, snarky posts about me leaving. Oh, what to do, what to do....? :head:

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[scook]

We may need to form a support group.

[bgreene]

Putin’s soldiers killing, torturing, raping Ukrainians …..

And trump LOVES Putin - his idol the man he trusts more than Americans .
Disgusting but TRUE

[scook]

First sentence true. Second sentence foolish, biased opinion - not true.

[bgreene]

First sentence true. Second sentence foolish, biased opinion - not true.

Trump took the word of the lying murderer Putin OVER our solid AMERICAN Intell people.
Yes he did - and he’s a traitor to America !!
Trump should be sent to Guantanamo Bay Prison and wear a prison uniform for life.

[scook]

Trump used his own judgment, realizing that the agencies, particularly solidly proven of the FBI, were dishonest and working for his demise.

You've had that explained to you enough times that a 3 year old would get it, but honest truth and facts are of no concern to you when they conflict with your far left narrative (which is most of the time).

[bgreene]

More excuses for the traitor trump who sides with a murderous dictator .

Wow

[Destroyer]

More excuses for the traitor trump who sides with a murderous dictator .

Wow\

He did no such thing and you know it. It's been proven several times, including by an independent prosecutor. Please stop lying.

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[bgreene]

Trump took the word of the lying murderer Putin OVER our solid AMERICAN Intell people.
Yes he did - and he’s a traitor to America !!
Trump should be sent to Guantanamo Bay Prison and wear a prison uniform for life.

[scook]

It was his judgment, with good evidence, that our intelligence people were not at all solid in their dealings with him. You’ve had this pointed out to you repeatedly but you are what you dishonestly accuse others of - you are a denier of facts.

Your last two assertions aren’t worthy of response.

[bgreene]

It was his judgment, with good evidence, that our intelligence people were not at all solid in their dealings with him. You’ve had this pointed out to you repeatedly but you are what you dishonestly accuse others of - you are a denier of facts.

Your last two assertions aren’t worthy of response.

Trump demonstrates his loyalty to his own personal goals - ABOVE everything else.
A REAL American patriot would not take the word of a lying murderous dictator over his own American countrymen and our Federal officers.
You pretend not to understand this

[scook]

I don’t pretend anything. He wisely didn’t take the word of federal officers, who in one absolutely proven case (and probably many more) were maliciously lying expressly attempting to bring about his demise. A real American idiot would take their word under those circumstances. Talk about a denier - good grief.

[bgreene]

I don’t pretend anything. He wisely didn’t take the word of federal officers, who in one absolutely proven case (and probably many more) were maliciously lying expressly attempting to bring about his demise. A real American idiot would take their word under those circumstances. Talk about a denier - good grief.

I disagree - there are words a President says - and should never say

[scook]

So, what exactly did he say (documented by a credible source)?

[bgreene]

So, what exactly did he say (documented by a credible source)?

Here’s scook all “ locked and loaded “ with his “what did he say “ nonsense and his excuse of “ credible source “ so he can go right into denial.

Games, games and more games from scook.
Trump said it was genius for Putin falsely labeling his attack a peace keeping mission .
Sick comment to begin with …….despicable for Ukrainians under attack to hear.

Tell you what scook …..what if your family rounded up, raped, tortured and killed and hear leader of another country claim the attackers were genius for labeling the attack peace keeping mission ?
Can you relate or I’m guessing you’ll throw more excuses for trump

[scook]

First, the question was about what Trump actually said about our intel people, we’re all well aware of what he said about Putin. You, however seem unaware of most of what he says about Putin.

If the scenario you described were to take place, I would be killing every invader I got my sights on as long as I remained alive - actually I’d be killing them well before that could happen in hopes of stopping it. My military training as well as my personal inclination is very much in line with how the Ukrainians are dealing with the situation.

There are no word games of any kind. You can disapprove of his comment as much as you want, but taking it completely out of context, making it appear to be something totally different than what it obviously meant is dishonest. I don’t think it was appropriate either in the situation and wish he hadn’t said it, but you purposefully misrepresented it over and over….

Your absolute black and white view of pretty much everything is a symptom of a personality disorder. No one is all bad or all good and your inclination to think that way makes you unable to participate in meaningful discussion. The only time I’ve witnessed you seemingly capable of nuanced thought has been when you were nuancing something, falsely into an anti- Trump or Republican/conservative proclamation.

[bgreene]

Again your excuses for trumps comments as “ taken out of context “

Words which really mean……try to explain it away by twisting till it sort of fits.

More nonsense scook - Trump referred to Putin’s labeling the attack “ peace keeping “ as being genius .

The lying cheating Putin also labeled the attack on Ukraine as to clear out Nazis .
Sick lies

[bgreene]

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/02/23/trump-putin-ukraine-invasion-00010923


Here’s Trumps big mouth referring to the Russian invasion of Ukraine “ genius “ to keep peace.
Murder, torture , rape, destruction of hospitals , civilian convoys trying to escape blown apart .

Big mouth trump

[Destroyer]

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/02/23/trump-putin-ukraine-invasion-00010923


Here’s Trumps big mouth referring to the Russian invasion of Ukraine “ genius “ to keep peace.
Murder, torture , rape, destruction of hospitals , civilian convoys trying to escape blown apart .

Big mouth trumpThis is the same link you provided before. I answered it back then. Trump was saying that Putin's use of the words to describe his actions was savvy and genius, not that he was a genius or anything like that. You know this, yet you continue to broadcast your falsehoods. Why is that?

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[bgreene]

This is the same link you provided before. I answered it back then. Trump was saying that Putin's use of the words to describe his actions was savvy and genius, not that he was a genius or anything like that. You know this, yet you continue to broadcast your falsehoods. Why is that?

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Because it’s not a “ falsehood” …..Trump saying Putin’s a genius for falsely labeling his massing of troops and then attack as “ genius “

[scook]

Except that you continue to twist it to the point that your representation IS a falsehood.

[bgreene]

Except that you continue to twist it to the point that your representation IS a falsehood.

WRONG - Trump is on tape - his comment quite clear

[scook]

Yes, it’s quite clear and it’s pretty amazing that you either can’t understand the plain English I’m which it’s stated, or knowingly misrepresent it. Well, the second option isn’t so amazing - you do a lot of that.

[bgreene]

Yes, it’s quite clear and it’s pretty amazing that you either can’t understand the plain English I’m which it’s stated, or knowingly misrepresent it. Well, the second option isn’t so amazing - you do a lot of that.

Bla bla bla and more bla bla bla from scook the seemingly angry tense bitter man

[scook]

More of the same.

[bgreene]

UKRAINE …..so now two additional countries likely join NATO ALLIANCE .

Putin “ Trumps Genius “ cemented his legacy as a brutal murderous dictator who made the HUGE mistake by attacking Ukraine .

[scook]

He clearly miscalculated the importance of Biden’s incompetence and weakness and the risk of other countries and congress members of both parties pressing the administration to act against him.

Typical of our dishonest “news” sources, there’s a lot we don’t know about the Ukrainian situation. Talking with a friend who’s half Russian, half Ukrainian and ALL American, and has family there now, the bottom line is that this is a huge mess and unnecessary, given the diplomatic avenues that were available to resolve it peacefully.