Our Big Oil Companies now making a fortune …on us

[bgreene]

FACTS
1.Our big oil companies have about 9,000 oil leases open and available to use - to pull more oil on US grounds….that they are NOT using.
2. Our big oil companies STOCKS are WAY UP now under Biden vs Trump and the big shareholders are LOVING IT.
3. Our big oil companies spent over $60,000,000 ….that’s 60 million dollars lobbying for Republicans in Washington while a tiny fraction towards Democratic plans.

Some say …..Big Oil runs our nation. Well, big oil stocks such as EXXON-MOBIL have doubled in the last year, while they make HUGE PROFITS with oil above $100 per barrel.
At our cost…..as we buy their gasoline.

Something to think about….

[bgreene]

So……the Big Oil Companies therefore “ can’t lose “

The average joe blames Biden.
Big oil wins.

The price of oil stays high.
Big oil wins.

Republicans win back political positions.
Big oil wins.

Drill baby drill ? Well……not so fast and not too much .
Because big oil likes higher prices .

But Big Oil LOVES to hear others all get the blame.
And big oil wins .

[steplift20]

This is all Bidens doing, everything.and Biden is in big oils pocket .

[bgreene]

This is all Bidens doing, everything.and Biden is in big oils pocket .

You tell em’ Steppie ! Hahah
Big oil wins no matter what !

[Destroyer]

Well, that's one of those misleading "facts" that the Dems are so fond of posting.
FACT yes, there are slightly over 6000 oil leases on Federal land that are not being drilled of pumped.
FACT a lot of those holes are dry.
FACT The cost is astronomical to drill, even if you get a permit to do so.
FACT A lease is NOT a permit. If you are lucky enough to actually strike oil getting a permit to actually pump the oil is quite another matter. There are years of environmental, federal and local barriers. Then you also have the costs of permits to install pipelines (different from pumping the oil///more environmental studies, etc.).

I could go on but you get the idea. They (Biden and the Dems) are not lying when they say that there are 6000 leases open, they just don't tell the rest of the story.

They are also trying to say that the high gas prices are Putins fault when anyone with half a brain knows that they started rising the first week that Biden took office. Yes, the Ukraine invasion has pushed oil prices up almost a quarter more than what they were, but that's still $.75 cents of every dollar of increase is squarely on Biden's back... NOT Putins.

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[bgreene]

Big Oil Corporations LOVE high prices and are making HUGE profits of us now.

It’s been said that Big Oil runs America…….easy to understand why .

[Destroyer]

Big Oil Corporations LOVE high prices and are making HUGE profits of us now.

It’s been said that Big Oil runs America…….easy to understand why .

Actually, it's not so much Big Oil that's making the profits so much as it is the speculators on Wall Street. Not many people know it but the oil that's in a tanker may change ownership several times before it reaches our ports. That's because speculators might buy it at (this is just an example) $100 a barrel for 50,000 barrels and then sell it to someone else for $101 a barrel. They just made a cool profit of $50,000. Now the person that bought it for 101 sells it for 102. They also make a 50,000 profit. All of this is happening while the ship is at sea. By the time it reaches port it's cargo may have transferred hands several times, each time adding to the price. So yes, Big oil is making a profit for sure, but they are not the only ones and it's doubtful they are making the lions share. Wall St. speculators are.

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[bgreene]

Actually, it's not so much Big Oil that's making the profits so much as it is the speculators on Wall Street. Not many people know it but the oil that's in a tanker may change ownership several times before it reaches our ports. That's because speculators might buy it at (this is just an example) $100 a barrel for 50,000 barrels and then sell it to someone else for $101 a barrel. They just made a cool profit of $50,000. Now the person that bought it for 101 sells it for 102. They also make a 50,000 profit. All of this is happening while the ship is at sea. By the time it reaches port it's cargo may have transferred hands several times, each time adding to the price. So yes, Big oil is making a profit for sure, but they are not the only ones and it's doubtful they are making the lions share. Wall St. speculators are.

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Well destroyer you’re WRONG AGAIN .
Our biggest US Oil Companies ARE making a fortune ON US and they LOVE high prices !
Exxon-Mobil alone just reported record profits off us ….$6-8 billion last quarter and will make MUCH MORE this quarter !!!

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/exxon-post-best-results-seven-years-oil-prices-2022-02-01/

[Pipe_Dream]

How much profit should oil companies make?

[bgreene]

How much profit should oil companies make?

Gee wiz that’s a goofy reply .

FACT and POINT of this thread ….Big Oil runs America and Big Oil loves these high prices because they’re making BILLIONS more on us !!!

[Destroyer]

Obviously you don't play the market Greene. and I'm not going to even try to school you about what a fiduciary is, or stock buy backs, or the costs of exploration and drilling. Yep, oil companies, (not just ExxonMobil) are making profits. So?

Aren't you the person that was telling all of us that the rising gas prices were no big deal? Yet now, all of a sudden, you're crying about companies making profits. Well, cry baby, cry...

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[bgreene]

Obviously you don't play the market Greene. and I'm not going to even try to school you about what a fiduciary is, or stock buy backs, or the costs of exploration and drilling. Yep, oil companies, (not just ExxonMobil) are making profits. So?

Aren't you the person that was telling all of us that the rising gas prices were no big deal? Yet now, all of a sudden, you're crying about companies making profits. Well, cry baby, cry...

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Point is youre WRONG again destroyer - the traders are not making any where near what the oil companies themselves are making by virtue of high oil prices .
Exploration isnt the point I made - the wells not being used were discovered long ago
Stock buy backs arent the issue - big oil is still making a fortune on high oil prices
Fiduciary has nothing to do with it - in fact big oil is mostly in bed with the Republican Party.

The SIMPLE and CORRECT point I make on this thread is our AMERICAN BIG OIL COMPANIES are making HUGE FORTUNES on us Americans with these high oil prices AND guess what else BIG OIL supports Republicans over Dems.
Thats the hypocrisy !!!!

[Destroyer]

Point is youre WRONG again destroyer - the traders are not making any where near what the oil companies themselves are making by virtue of high oil prices .
Exploration isnt the point I made - the wells not being used were discovered long ago
Stock buy backs arent the issue - big oil is still making a fortune on high oil prices
Fiduciary has nothing to do with it - in fact big oil is mostly in bed with the Republican Party.

The SIMPLE and CORRECT point I make on this thread is our AMERICAN BIG OIL COMPANIES are making HUGE FORTUNES on us Americans with these high oil prices AND guess what else BIG OIL supports Republicans over Dems.
Thats the hypocrisy !!!!

I love how you can just sweep aside what others post without having any real knowledge of what you are talking about. It must be very comforting to lie in bad at night in your ignorant bliss. I'm not even going to try to debate you or show you where you are wrong on this topic, so go ahead and believe what you want.

Whatever you say :you:

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[bgreene]

I love how you can just sweep aside what others post without having any real knowledge of what you are talking about. It must be very comforting to lie in bad at night in your ignorant bliss. I'm not even going to try to debate you or show you where you are wrong on this topic, so go ahead and believe what you want.

Whatever you say :you:

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Good then don’t debate the facts I made on this topic.

You mostly just throw non stop insults and THIS - YOUR VULGARITY AND CURSING

Originally Posted by Destroyer View Post
Well, just like you Greene, I only post FACTS. So if the shoe fits.....
(oh, and please get it correct. I said you were an "Anus USED for sex". In other words a complete "Fu*king A$$hole").


Very nice Destroyer …..a real contribution to humanity

[Pipe_Dream]

Gee wiz that’s a goofy reply .


When you can't answer the question perhaps you could just admit it.

Again, how much profit should oil companies make?

If you don't know that's okay.

[Destroyer]

Good then don’t debate the facts I made on this topic.

You mostly just throw non stop insults and THIS - YOUR VULGARITY AND CURSING

Originally Posted by Destroyer View Post
Well, just like you Greene, I only post FACTS. So if the shoe fits.....
(oh, and please get it correct. I said you were an "Anus USED for sex". In other words a complete "Fu*king A$$hole").

Very nice Destroyer …..a real contribution to humanity

And once again you attempt to shift away from the topic when you don't (as usual) really know what you're talking about.

Whatever you say Greene :you:

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[bgreene]

And once again you attempt to shift away from the topic when you don't (as usual) really know what you're talking about.

Whatever you say Greene :you:

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Here it is - you’re a LIAR destroyer as you claimed you haven’t posted vulgarity or curses . Well this is what you posted proving you’re a LIAR

Well, just like you Greene, I only post FACTS. So if the shoe fits.....
(oh, and please get it correct. I said you were an "Anus USED for sex". In other words a complete "Fu*king A$$hole").

[Pipe_Dream]

Big Oil Corporations are making HUGE profits of us now.


Some years they do. Some years they don't.

How much profit should they make?

[steplift20]

Just look back to day one this antiamerican president took office, oil starting going up , shutting down the keystone pipe line and this is why, not because of Russia,not because of the oil company's ,because of the lefts green new deal
In his debate he said , I'm going to shut down the oil company's , and he is doing just that.
Follow the money,see who invested in EVs , polosi Bidens AOC all of the left. Follow the money. His answer to high gas is, buy electric cars This gas issue is 110 percent his doing but you Biden people are so brain washed that you won't admit it. Watch what happens when Trump gets re elected gas will come down quick and the world leaders will fall back in line . Really Greene are you that dumb? But not only you all the people that don't like president Donald Trump . I was hoping Biden would be good but he is the worst even worst than carter . Follow the money see who invested in electric cars that's your answer.

[bgreene]

Just look back to day one this antiamerican president took office, oil starting going up , shutting down the keystone pipe line and this is why, not because of Russia,not because of the oil company's ,because of the lefts green new deal
In his debate he said , I'm going to shut down the oil company's , and he is doing just that.
Follow the money,see who invested in EVs , polosi Bidens AOC all of the left. Follow the money. His answer to high gas is, buy electric cars This gas issue is 110 percent his doing but you Biden people are so brain washed that you won't admit it. Watch what happens when Trump gets re elected gas will come down quick and the world leaders will fall back in line . Really Greene are you that dumb? But not only you all the people that don't like president Donald Trump . I was hoping Biden would be good but he is the worst even worst than carter . Follow the money see who invested in electric cars that's your answer.

No I don’t believe I’m dumb - maybe you are dumb for believing the lying cheating con man traitor trump who continues his LIE that he didn’t lose the election.

[Pipe_Dream]

No I don’t believe I’m dumb - maybe you are dumb for believing the lying cheating con man traitor trump who continues his LIE that he didn’t lose the election.

How much profit should oil companies make?

[bgreene]

How much profit should oil companies make?


Point is ….our AMERICAN big oil companies are just LOVING high oil prices because they’re making a fortune off us !!!!

And point is …..our AMERICA big oil companies support Republicans …..so this is a can’t loose for them / they get rich on us and most blame goes elsewhere !!!

Ever notice how gas prices shoot up fast…..but slow to reduce ?
Big Oil loves high prices !!!

[bgreene]

So the AMERICAN big oil families and stock holders are running getting richer and richer able to say “ isn’t this great - we’re making a fortune while many blame Dems “

Hhahaha the jokes on us all the way to the bank !!

[oteps]

Remember when sleepy was running for president and said he would stop all fossil fuels?

[bgreene]

Remember when sleepy was running for president and said he would stop all fossil fuels?

He actually said investing in new energy would create new jobs .

Big oils making big money on you Osteps - and they’re republicans .
How’s that for hypocrisy and the jokes on you .

[bgreene]

February , 2022

Yes indeed EXXON getting rich on charging us at the pump - and EXXON supports Republicans :

“….Oil and gas production, Exxon's largest business, posted a $6.1 billion operating profit, the highest in two years. Earnings benefited from an 80% increase in oil prices and doubling of natural gas prices compared to 2020.”

[Pipe_Dream]

February , 2022

Yes indeed EXXON getting rich on charging us at the pump - and EXXON supports Republicans :

“….Oil and gas production, Exxon's largest business, posted a $6.1 billion operating profit, the highest in two years. Earnings benefited from an 80% increase in oil prices and doubling of natural gas prices compared to 2020.”

How much money did Exxon lose in 2020?

[bgreene]

How much money did Exxon lose in 2020?

During the pandemic and related economic slow down Exxon lost money.
What’s your point ?

My point is obvious - the hypocrisy of big oil and republicans LOVING high oil prices

[scook]

It makes sense that fossil fuel organizations would favor Republicans, since democrats have pronounced their goal of putting them all out of business.

Regarding hypocrisy, oil company executives have a legal, fiduciary responsibility to their shareholders (many of them pension funds that regular people depend on for their incomes) to produce profits. I find it annoying that prices at the pump always seem to come down more slowly than they should, but as Pipe pointed out, they lost a bunch of money very recently. Not seeing the hypocrisy here.

On the other hand, look no farther than Biden. Swearing to shut down fossil fuels, starting his first day in office - no more drilling on federal land, etc. and now threatening to fine companies for not extracting the maximum, drilling on their leases, etc.

Republicans loving high oil prices? They must have said that on CNN - no one with a scintilla of critical thinking could honestly make that claim.

[bgreene]

It makes sense that fossil fuel organizations would favor Republicans, since democrats have pronounced their goal of putting them all out of business.

Regarding hypocrisy, oil company executives have a legal, fiduciary responsibility to their shareholders (many of them pension funds that regular people depend on for their incomes) to produce profits. I find it annoying that prices at the pump always seem to come down more slowly than they should, but as Pipe pointed out, they lost a bunch of money very recently. Not seeing the hypocrisy here.

On the other hand, look no farther than Biden. Swearing to shut down fossil fuels, starting his first day in office - no more drilling on federal land, etc. and now threatening to fine companies for not extracting the maximum, drilling on their leases, etc.

Republicans loving high oil prices? They must have said that on CNN - no one with a scintilla of critical thinking could honestly make that claim.

Big oil supports republicans - big oil is now making a fortune on high oil prices.
FACTS

[scook]

Yeah - I think their profit was around 4%-4.5%. When business volume is huge, a moderate profit is huge in absolute, but not necessarily relative terms. Are you making a fortune on an investment that returns that rate, particularly when inflation is far above that?

Yes - Republicans have an actual understanding of what works to have a strong enough economy to be able to afford to pursue other goals. Democrats are so ideologically driven that they are blind to the massive destruction they are doing to the economy, promoting lawlessness and building a debt so huge that repayment will either be impossible or require printing massive amounts of money, in either case probably costing us our leadership position in the world, and the dollar as the trusted world currency.

[bgreene]

Yeah - I think their profit was around 4%-4.5%. When business volume is huge, a moderate profit is huge in absolute, but not necessarily relative terms. Are you making a fortune on an investment that returns that rate, particularly when inflation is far above that?

Yes - Republicans have an actual understanding of what works to have a strong enough economy to be able to afford to pursue other goals. Democrats are so ideologically driven that they are blind to the massive destruction they are doing to the economy, promoting lawlessness and building a debt so huge that repayment will either be impossible or require printing massive amounts of money, in either case probably costing us our leadership position in the world, and the dollar as the trusted world currency.

Debt ?
Under Trumps policies of tax cuts for corporations our debt surged .
FACT.
Trump loves debt - personally and for our country .

[wellcraftv20step]

BAAAHHH BAAHHH BAAHHH says the Sheep

[scook]

Yes indeed.

[Pipe_Dream]

During the pandemic and related economic slow down Exxon lost money.
What’s your point ?

My point is obvious - the hypocrisy of big oil and republicans LOVING high oil prices

You have a big issue with companies making record profits, but no issue at all when companies have record losses. Companies exist to make money, right? And to make a profit for shareholders. You do understand this? How are they behaving hypocritically?

You do know that oil companies are increasingly donating to Democrats, or did Clown News Network not tell you that?

[bgreene]

You have a big issue with companies making record profits, but no issue at all when companies have record losses. Companies exist to make money, right? And to make a profit for shareholders. You do understand this? How are they behaving hypocritically?

You do know that oil companies are increasingly donating to Democrats, or did Clown News Network not tell you that?

Hahahahaah Big Oil gives mostly to Republicans- FACT .
Big Oil loves high oil prices - FACT

And they laugh all the way to the bank as Biden gets blamed.
Hahahah the hypocrisy but it’s true - all true

[Pipe_Dream]

Hahahahaah Big Oil gives mostly to Republicans- FACT .
Big Oil loves high oil prices - FACT

And they laugh all the way to the bank as Biden gets blamed.
Hahahah the hypocrisy but it’s true - all true

“In a trivial sense, it’s true that businesses set prices to maximize their profits. They also choose wages and the level of employment to maximize profits,” said Jason Furman, President Barack Obama’s top economic adviser, who called complaints about corporate greed “just political ranting.”

from "Amid inflation, rising prices fuel charges of corporate greed" by David J. Lynch, Washington Post

"Just political ranting" describes our beloved bgreene to a T.

[bgreene]

Yeh yeh …..but the TRUTH, FACT and HYPOCRISY is :

1. Big oil votes Republican
2. Big oil LOVES high oil prices
3. Big oil is laughing all the way to the bank as Dems take the blame .

It’s quite a joke - on us.
You either can’t figure this out or you’re the “ blissful ignorant “ that trump loves .

Trump spouts all kinds of false claims at his rallies - and you starry eyed followers lap it up like like thirsty dogs.
Trump says “ I heard K Brown was very rude , very rude “ and his mob responds with boooos to Brown.
Meanwhile the TRUTH IS Brown has handled herself with total poise, courtesy, respect and dignity in the hearings.

[Pipe_Dream]

:you:

We should call this our stream of consciousness sub-forum.

[scook]

While severely lacking in any kind of rational consciousness on bgreen’s part.

[bgreene]

While severely lacking in any kind of rational consciousness on bgreen’s part.

Ahhh isn’t this cute - the trump lovers that can’t handle the truth love fest.
Trumps a lying cheating con man traitor who LIES that he won the election.
He’s a fraud dictator wanna be and you both are his fools.
Send him your money too.

[Destroyer]

Ahhh isn’t this cute - the trump lovers that can’t handle the truth love fest.
Trumps a lying cheating con man traitor who LIES that he won the election.
He’s a fraud dictator wanna be and you both are his fools.
Send him your money too.

It's amazing that you have such a complete lack of understanding about business, stocks, profit margins, etc. and yet you continue to try and lecture us on those very items because your democrap masters, in an effort to blame anyone (except Biden) for the rising gas prices and inflation, have told you to do so.

Just off the top of my head, they've blamed Trump, global inflation, Putin, Big oil Co profits. I'm sure I've missed a few others, but you get the idea.

See, this is why I keep calling you "kid". It's because your inability to actually see the real cause (Biden and his democrap masters) and debate it intelligently with your infantile posts puts your remarks into the childish category. Right kid?

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[bgreene]

Says the old man destroyer who’s now trying a new posting gimmick .
Well …..I am humbly in decent shape ,health, and feel youthful so that’s good .

Likely just a matter of time before you lose control and post vulgar cursing rants again.

But doesn’t matter what posting games you play destroyer - your record is repeated vulgar cursing rants.

Disrespectful to all, disrespectful to this web site .

[Destroyer]

Says the old man destroyer who’s now trying a new posting gimmick .
Well …..I am humbly in decent shape ,health, and feel youthful so that’s good .

Likely just a matter of time before you lose control and post vulgar cursing rants again.

But doesn’t matter what posting games you play destroyer - your record is repeated vulgar cursing rants.

Disrespectful to all, disrespectful to this web site .

This is the third thread where you made the exact same post as a nonsense reply. What a shame you have no original thoughts KID.

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[bgreene]

This is the third thread where you made the exact same post as a nonsense reply. What a shame you have no original thoughts KID.

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Nonsense would be defined as wrong.

My post is correct and accurate - you're the ONLY member on this nice site that has posted repeated vulgar, cursing rants.

You own it - it is from you - it is you, and no lies you post will change this FACT.

[bgreene]

Big Oil being investigated about high gasoline prices

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/big-oil-tell-congress-markets-not-companies-set-fuel-prices-testimony-2022-04-05/

[Pipe_Dream]

Big Oil being investigated about high gasoline prices

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/big-oil-tell-congress-markets-not-companies-set-fuel-prices-testimony-2022-04-05/

Yes, Democrats are desperate.

[bgreene]

Yes, Democrats are desperate.

Oh you have an issue with wanting lower oil prices ?
Good - you should pay more - but just you

[Pipe_Dream]

Oh you have an issue with wanting lower oil prices ?
Good - you should pay more - but just you

I find your belief system fascinating.

[bgreene]

I find your belief system fascinating.

As you should

[Pipe_Dream]

As you should

Indeed. I have always found subjects such as yourself interesting.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/conditions/delusional-disorder

[bgreene]

Indeed. I have always found subjects such as yourself interesting.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/conditions/delusional-disorder

Insults and more insults but of course you’re WRONG AGAIN.

Delusional - is trump and his followers ( you included ) that support the LIE that he won the election.

Me - I post FACTS, the TRUTH and my opinions.
So stick with your insults little man .

[Destroyer]

Insults and more insults but of course you’re WRONG AGAIN.

Delusional - is trump and his followers ( you included ) that support the LIE that he won the election.

Me - I post FACTS, the TRUTH and my opinions.
So stick with your insults little man .


Almost correct. You post your opinions as facts and truth.

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[bgreene]

Big oil LOVES high fuel prices

Big oil “ runs America “ and prefers and supports Republicans

Big oil is laughing all the way to the bank - at our expense

FACT

[Pipe_Dream]

Almost correct. You post your opinions as facts and truth.

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Well played. :beer:

[bgreene]

Well played. :beer:

Yeh “ played “ all smoke and mirrors also called BS

[Destroyer]

Yeh “ played “ all smoke and mirrors also called BS

Oops, there goes Greene, potty mouth cursing on this site. So now he's vulgar and cursing. A true disgrace to this site. You should leave and never come back Greene.

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[bgreene]

Oops, there goes Greene, potty mouth cursing on this site. So now he's vulgar and cursing. A true disgrace to this site. You should leave and never come back Greene.

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Really ? Then YOU should have been looooooooong gone by your own comment.

[Destroyer]

Really ? Then YOU should have been looooooooong gone by your own comment.

Hey, I'm just throwing back at you the same lies that you've been throwing at me. too bad if you don't like it, you and your vulgar potty mouth.


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[bgreene]

Hey, I'm just throwing back at you the same lies that you've been throwing at me. too bad if you don't like it, you and your vulgar potty mouth.


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Geez you should be in a mental hospital

[Destroyer]

Geez you should be in a mental hospital

To come visit you? I'll pass.

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[bgreene]

To come visit you? I'll pass.

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Destroyer - you’re a liar and a fraud just like the X President that lost to Biden .

[Pipe_Dream]

Destroyer - you’re a liar and a fraud just like the X President that lost to Biden .

Still more personal attacks. Chill out, man.

[bgreene]

Still more personal attacks. Chill out, man.

Suddenly you PRETEND to care - but when destroyer text vulgar cursing rants at me……nothing from you . Now suddenly the “ chill out man “ from you pipe .

Isn’t that cute ……Trump lovers stick together through the lies and slander .

[Pipe_Dream]

Aren't high gas prices what Democrats have always wanted?

Here's Ro Khanna (D-Calif.) less than 6 months ago praising BP's CEO for pledging to reduce oil and gas production by 40% by 2030.

https://docs.house.gov/meetings/GO/GO00/20211028/114185/HHRG-117-GO00-Transcript-20211028.pdf#page=32

The 2022 midterm reckoning is coming.

[bgreene]

Praising reduced oil and gas production has been supported by democrats as:
1. Alternative energy solutions gain ground
2. Price of oil was much lower 6 months ago

FACT is as stated - big oil loves these high prices and big oil is mostly REPUBLICAN .

Global situation is currently different based on:
1. Huge demand snap back from the original COVID related massive drop off
2. War related supply issues
3. Big oil seizing on all this to blow out prices and make a fortune - ON US.

Trump supports drilling everywhere - including on our most environmentally pure lands and waterways, the ocean, everywhere. He’s also very pro coal even though our usages have dropped and it’s an old filthy industry .

Trump may win in 2024 and the EVIDENCE indicates it would be bad for America and Americans in many many ways . Be careful what you wish for — it goes far beyond pump prices .

Sticking with the FACTS and the TRUTH is not only honorable…..it’s really pro American vs other countries that are run by dictators

[Pipe_Dream]

The last administration encouraged domestic energy production and US energy independence. What logically followed were lower energy prices and a burgeoning US economy.

The current administration (in its third non-consecutive term) and its party have discouraged and stymied domestic fossil fuel production as a way of artificially increasing energy costs to the consumer to encourage alternate so-called "green" energy for which the current infrastructure is not ready. So instead of our domestic producers being ready for the so-called "demand snap back" the current administration is going hat in hand begging for increased oil production from the very countries from whom we were weaning our dependence, countries whose methods are substantially less environmentally friendly than our own. Ironically, those were so concerned about domestic drilling aren't at all concerned about dirtier foreign drilling because the higher gas prices have played a substantial role in the highest inflation -- 8.5% -- since the 70s-80s. They're now grasping at straws in a desperate attempt to save their political careers, and worsening the polluting of the environment because of their inane policies.

This is true and these are facts.

And as an aside, there's this:

https://miami.cbslocal.com/2020/09/08/trump-expands-offshore-drilling-ban-florida-coast-georgia-south-carolina/

but sure, Trump "supports drilling everywhere - including on our most environmentally pure lands and waterways, the ocean, everywhere."

[bgreene]

Yes - trumps ACTUAL environmental record was horrible as he tried to repeal about every protection in place, plus allow drilling where Americans continually vote AGAINST .

Fact

[Destroyer]

Yes - trumps ACTUAL environmental record was horrible as he tried to repeal about every protection in place, plus allow drilling where Americans continually vote AGAINST .

Fact

You obviously didn't read the link that Pipe provided or you would never have made that last statement.

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[Pipe_Dream]

Yes - trumps ACTUAL environmental record was horrible as he tried to repeal about every protection in place, plus allow drilling where Americans continually vote AGAINST .

Fact

Objection, your honor. Nonresponsive.

I loved how you ignored everything but the part about Trump. I guess when you have got nothin' you revert back to your comfort zone.

[bgreene]

Objection, your honor. Nonresponsive.

I loved how you ignored everything but the part about Trump. I guess when you have got nothin' you revert back to your comfort zone.

Big oil LOVES high prices .
This is the thread topic

[Pipe_Dream]

Big oil LOVES high prices .
This is the thread topic

Go ahead and ignore why the supply is low and prices are high. That is your purview.

[bgreene]

Go ahead and ignore why the supply is low and prices are high. That is your purview.

Lack of previously expanded drilling is just ONE reason why oil prices are so high.
1. War
2. Global demand covid snap back
3. Global Inflation due to worker issues

Big OIL has NEVER wanted the price too low - and therefore does NOT support too much drilling and too much supply.

Scook- Lying, false claims, and disinformation has NO VALUE TO ME.
I post the truth supported as best possible with facts.
I owe that to myself- to all - to our nation as I believe we all should.

I’m very, very disappointed when I see trump lovers cheering ANYTHING trump says even when he lies . Ignorance is a dangerous disease of mind.

[Pipe_Dream]

The last administration encouraged domestic energy production and US energy independence. What logically followed were lower energy prices and a burgeoning US economy.

The current administration (in its third non-consecutive term) and its party have discouraged and stymied domestic fossil fuel production as a way of artificially increasing energy costs to the consumer to encourage alternate so-called "green" energy for which the current infrastructure is not ready. So instead of our domestic producers being ready for the so-called "demand snap back" the current administration is going hat in hand begging for increased oil production from the very countries from whom we were weaning our dependence, countries whose methods are substantially less environmentally friendly than our own. Ironically, those were so concerned about domestic drilling aren't at all concerned about dirtier foreign drilling because the higher gas prices have played a substantial role in the highest inflation -- 8.5% -- since the 70s-80s. They're now grasping at straws in a desperate attempt to save their political careers, and worsening the polluting of the environment because of their inane policies.

This is true and these are facts.



Democrats have NEVER wanted the price too low - and therefore do NOT support too much drilling and too much supply.

bgreene- Lying, false claims, and disinformation has NO VALUE TO ME.
I post the truth supported as best possible with facts.
I owe that to myself- to all - to our nation as I believe we all should.

I’m very, very disappointed when I see trump haters cheering ANYTHING the biden administration says even when it lies . Ignorance is a dangerous disease of mind.

[bgreene]

Democrats have NEVER wanted the price too low - and therefore do NOT support too much drilling and too much supply.

bgreene- Lying, false claims, and disinformation has NO VALUE TO ME.
I post the truth supported as best possible with facts.
I owe that to myself- to all - to our nation as I believe we all should.

I’m very, very disappointed when I see trump haters cheering ANYTHING the biden administration says even when it lies . Ignorance is a dangerous disease of mind.

You copied, pasted, edited my post - claiming it as your own.
Sneaky……but of course I am an excellent writer .
Perhaps next time try writing your OWN posts.

[Pipe_Dream]

You copied, pasted, edited my post - claiming it as your own.
Sneaky……but of course I am an excellent writer .
Perhaps next time try writing your OWN posts.

It's called making a point with satire.

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fmemegenerator.net%2Fimg%2Fimages% 2F3402366.jpg&f=1&nofb=1

[Pipe_Dream]

And look, they admit that they want higher prices.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1514255382969036805

[bgreene]

It's called making a point with satire.

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fmemegenerator.net%2Fimg%2Fimages% 2F3402366.jpg&f=1&nofb=1

Nope - it’s called PLAGIARISM- and you sir are guilty .
That will cost you - fee is ONE 9’ers umbrella rig with 6” white shad bodies

[Pipe_Dream]

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[Destroyer]

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It's funny, but isn't Biden the President? Funny how his name seems to be missing between Trump and Putin. Almost like the NY Times was deliberately ignoring the sharp gas price increases that started the day Biden took office. Lets not forget that Biden was in office for over a year before Putin started his war on Ukraine and during that time the cost of gas and inflation rose every week.

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[Destroyer]

You know, some people are saying that big oil is responsible for the price of gas. I'm sure that might be part of the overall equation.

But while everyone is pointing to the 22 Billion that Exxon/Mobil has posted for profit no one seems to be talking about the 20 BILLION that they lost the year before. I'm just using Exxon/Mobil as an example. All of the other big oil companies posted similar profits and losses the year before.

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[Pipe_Dream]

You know, some people are saying that big oil is responsible for the price of gas. I'm sure that might be part of the overall equation.

But while everyone is pointing to the 22 Billion that Exxon/Mobil has posted for profit no one seems to be talking about the 20 BILLION that they lost the year before. I'm just using Exxon/Mobil as an example. All of the other big oil companies posted similar profits and losses the year before.

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Funny how those some people always seem to get their "news" from the same outlets, isn't it.

I just read this opinion piece
LATEST LEFTIST OUTRAGE: ENERGY COMPANIES MAKING MONEY
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2022/04/latest-leftist-outrage-energy-companies-making-money.php

[scook]

Nobody gives a rat's behind what the leftists, like you, are outraged about. Destroyer posted FACTS and all you can do is attempt, clumsily, to deflect from those simple, incontrovertible FACTS by crying "fake news from right wing sources" - news, which is not only absolutely true and correct, but totally irrelevant to the topic at hand.

More reason for you to do some serious self examination.

[bgreene]

Nobody gives a rat's behind what the leftists, like you, are outraged about. Destroyer posted FACTS and all you can do is attempt, clumsily, to deflect from those simple, incontrovertible FACTS by crying "fake news from right wing sources" - news, which is not only absolutely true and correct, but totally irrelevant to the topic at hand.

More reason for you to do some serious self examination.

Suggest you calm down with the angry posts:
FACTS ARE

1. Fuel prices dropped sharply associated with the covid related economic downturn.
As such, the REPUBLICAN supporting BIG OIL CO’s profits tanked.

2. Fuel prices rebounded with the economic surge after covid, and the related global inflation .
As such the REPUBLICAN supporting BIG OIL CO’s profits SURGED - and they are making HUGE profits with HIGH gasoline prices

This is JUST THE FACT…..you can talk about new oil wells all you want but FACT is big oil
does NOT want too much supply - it’s bad for their business .

So blame the “ Dems” hahahah

[scook]

Not an angry post, just correcting your nonsense.

You've had the FACT that this year's profits are offsetting last year's losses in fairly equal measure, so your assertion of getting rich off high oil prices is debunked.

You continue to project your hatred of "Republicans" onto a situation where there is no relevance to the discussion.

It's curious, as opposed to your foolish assertions, that the oil companies were drilling and extracting domestically and we were energy independent, until the Biden administration threatened and then immediately did shut down every bit of domestic production they could affect.

You wonder why your posts have very little traction - they are nonsense, fueled by dishonest sources and your extreme, deep bias against anything that could remotely be associated with Trump or Republicans.

Please refer back to the self examination suggestion - you need it badly.

[bgreene]

Not an angry post, just correcting your nonsense.

You've had the FACT that this year's profits are offsetting last year's losses in fairly equal measure, so your assertion of getting rich off high oil prices is debunked.

You continue to project your hatred of "Republicans" onto a situation where there is no relevance to the discussion.

It's curious, as opposed to your foolish assertions, that the oil companies were drilling and extracting domestically and we were energy independent, until the Biden administration threatened and then immediately did shut down every bit of domestic production they could affect.

You wonder why your posts have very little traction - they are nonsense, fueled by dishonest sources and your extreme, deep bias against anything that could remotely be associated with Trump or Republicans.

Please refer back to the self examination suggestion - you need it badly.

“ Foolish, Nonsense , biased, and my posts have no traction says scook”
And telling me what I “ need badly” says scook.

Wow you’re on fire today professor .
Try to calm down .

[oteps]

dropped sharply? U mean $.15?
rebounded? up $2.80?

[scook]

Try to calm down and read the post with an effort to understand what it says. It would be refreshing to have you actually respond to what anyone posts in a thoughtful way.

[bgreene]

Try to calm down and read the post with an effort to understand what it says. It would be refreshing to have you actually respond to what anyone posts in a thoughtful way.

Sooooo condescending this scook.

1. I did read your post and I understand it
2. I disagree with what you posted.

Ok ? So have a nice Washington State Apple and have a nice evening

[scook]

Yes, using one of your favorite phrases (one that you just used in this thread) does sound condescending. That is your standard practice.

You disagree, but don't provide any direct response as to why, even when confronted with facts that contradict your narrative.

It's sad - when you're talking about fishing, the weather or nature (in a non-political way), you're an interesting and reasonable guy.

[bgreene]

Yes, using one of your favorite phrases (one that you just used in this thread) does sound condescending. That is your standard practice.

You disagree, but don't provide any direct response as to why, even when confronted with facts that contradict your narrative.

It's sad - when you're talking about fishing, the weather or nature (in a non-political way), you're an interesting and reasonable guy.

Or…….your just can’t handle the truth about trump and what happened at our Capitol.
Yup .

[scook]

Classic bgreene - no mention of the capitol in at least this part of this thread, but you need to deny the truth so badly and have no response to what is being talked about that you completely change the subject to something completely irrelevant.

And of course, you have to throw in one of your standard pejorative infantile Trump related, also completely false and irrelevant little slanders. You are so far off the rails in so many ways that it’s hard to imagine you finding your way back. You’re certainly not going the right direction with this nonsense.

[bgreene]

Scook - for the benefit of all on this site , personal insults being toned down .
Suggest that applies to you too .

Big Oil is this thread topic — and the hypocrisy that they support the Republican Party with huge contributions, while making HUGE profit with high fuel prices — but blaming Dems .
Big oil LOVES high gas prices !!!
And YOU’RE paying for it - the JOKES on all of us

[scook]

Well then, you should probably tone down your insulting pejorative responses and stick to the thread topic, instead of injecting the capitol where it has no relevance.

It's hard to find any hypocrisy in oil companies supporting the party that is generally more business friendly and not, as opposed to the democrats, working hard to destroy their industry. The directors, and by extension the management of all companies have a fiduciary duty to work in the interests of their shareholders, many of whom are pension funds that retired, hard working people rely on for income.

Gas prices are no joke and are largely caused by the Biden administration doing it's absolute best to shut down our domestic energy production, taking us from energy independence to groveling to our sworn enemies for oil.

To my recollection, you have never made any direct response to repeated reminders that Biden said he would, and then did shut down every bit of our energy production that he could affect.

You are the slinger of insults, I observe and comment on your outrageous behavior.

[bgreene]

Well then, you should probably tone down your insulting pejorative responses and stick to the thread topic, instead of injecting the capitol where it has no relevance.

It's hard to find any hypocrisy in oil companies supporting the party that is generally more business friendly and not, as opposed to the democrats, working hard to destroy their industry. The directors, and by extension the management of all companies have a fiduciary duty to work in the interests of their shareholders, many of whom are pension funds that retired, hard working people rely on for income.

Gas prices are no joke and are largely caused by the Biden administration doing it's absolute best to shut down our domestic energy production, taking us from energy independence to groveling to our sworn enemies for oil.

To my recollection, you have never made any direct response to repeated reminders that Biden said he would, and then did shut down every bit of our energy production that he could affect.

You are the slinger of insults, I observe and comment on your outrageous behavior.

“ but but your honor I’m innocent “
Says scook
Bammm - down goes the Judges gavel- while saying “ take this excuse making phony away “
Next case !!!!

[scook]

That would be a dishonest liberal judge, or one with an IQ less than his hat size, as you continue to avoid anything like honest conversation.

[bgreene]

That would be a dishonest liberal judge, or one with an IQ less than his hat size, as you continue to avoid anything like honest conversation.

Big Republican donating OIL Companies LOVE charging scook $ 4 per gallon for gasoline, and then blaming the Democrats ! They'd like to charge you $ 5 per gallon !!

Hahahaha pump that gas scook, pump !!!

[scook]

It's already $5.00+ here, and it's clearly Biden's fault for shutting down our energy independence.

Democrats LOVE high energy costs in pursuit of killing off the fossil fuel industry, while having no cogent plan for transitioning to renewables. Of course the fact that this is a huge form of punishing taxation of the poor is of no consequence to the climate ideologues who get nice fat subsidies from us, the taxpayers, to buy electric cars and don't really care about the people they pretend to represent.

Your thinking on these issues is so simplistic and bias driven that you have no idea what you're talking about. Of course that doesn't quell your snarky, disrespectful, arrogant jackassery.

[bgreene]

It's already $5.00+ here, and it's clearly Biden's fault for shutting down our energy independence.

Democrats LOVE high energy costs in pursuit of killing off the fossil fuel industry, while having no cogent plan for transitioning to renewables. Of course the fact that this is a huge form of punishing taxation of the poor is of no consequence to the climate ideologues who get nice fat subsidies from us, the taxpayers, to buy electric cars and don't really care about the people they pretend to represent.

Your thinking on these issues is so simplistic and bias driven that you have no idea what you're talking about. Of course that doesn't quell your snarky, disrespectful, arrogant jackassery.

No cursing please - we frown upon that on this nice site .

Have an apple

[scook]

If you think “jackassery” is cursing, you are too ignorant to go outdoors without adult supervision, you’re just making another clumsy, infantile attempt at arrogant condescension - you should remember that your phony “opinions” aren’t respected here, so they’re not effective. They just make you look more phony and foolish.

[bgreene]

If you think “jackassery” is cursing, you are too ignorant to go outdoors without adult supervision, you’re just making another clumsy, infantile attempt at arrogant condescension - you should remember that your phony “opinions” aren’t respected here, so they’re not effective. They just make you look more phony and foolish.

Please refrain from personal insults and temper tantrums.
Reminder number 3,476.

And my opinions aren’t phony- they’re my opinions.
The facts I posts are also accurate.

[scook]

Facts are by definition accurate, you just don't often post them and when you do, usually interpret them in some absurd way that supports you far left, biased narrative.

You must think your snarky attempts as insults are cute or clever - I don't think your are joined in that opinion by anyone else here. They are read as disingenuous and often just plain dishonest.

[Pipe_Dream]

Please refrain from personal insults

Those weren't insults, they were facts.

[bgreene]

The FACTS on why gas prices have surged.
This link is NOT political and includes ALL reasons


https://www.kiplinger.com/personal-finance/spending/604644/why-are-gas-prices-still-going-up

[scook]

It appears to be reasonably apolitical, and cites Biden’s policy direction to eliminate the fossil duel industry as one of three factors supporting high prices.

The Keystone pipeline alone, would probably make significant difference in fuel costs. Much like supporting the killing of innocent babies, it’s clear that the left doesn’t care about punishing low to moderate income people with unaffordable energy pricing.

[bgreene]

Big oil - laughing all the way to their banks - because they know theyre increasing prices and blame going to Dems

But the jokes on you scook - every time you fill up, big oil laughs

[scook]

Right where a good part of the blame should go, and rather than laughing, they're probably smiling that their shareholders aren't losing money like they did when the pandemic shut off a huge amount of travel.

Your lack of understanding and gleeful, childish posts don't speak well of your intellect.

[bgreene]

Right where a good part of the blame should go, and rather than laughing, they're probably smiling that their shareholders aren't losing money like they did when the pandemic shut off a huge amount of travel.

Your lack of understanding and gleeful, childish posts don't speak well of your intellect.

Your non stop insults and denials of the truth speaks volumes of your LACK of character… “scook” .

[scook]

You’re going around the bend with that one. If you’re too ignorant to understand simple, honest explanations, or too biased to acknowledge them, you should at least have the sense to keep your mouth shut with that kind dishonest accusation. I’m not lacking in character and you’re a despicable liar to suggest it.

[bgreene]

You’re going around the bend with that one. If you’re too ignorant to understand simple, honest explanations, or too biased to acknowledge them, you should at least have the sense to keep your mouth shut with that kind dishonest accusation. I’m not lacking in character and you’re a despicable liar to suggest it.

Since you write so many insults scook - you shouldnt be surprised to receive one in return.
“ People who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw rocks “

[steplift20]

Biden is great , inflation is under control, gas prices are at rock bottom salarys are way up the border is secure covid is gone Biden is great But Bgreene what the hell are you doing? Selling your boat? Are you crazy ? Keep her and post pictures of that gem cmon Greene don't sell her
Trump will be back and bring down gas prices I hope.

[bgreene]

Biden is great , inflation is under control, gas prices are at rock bottom salarys are way up the border is secure covid is gone Biden is great But Bgreene what the hell are you doing? Selling your boat? Are you crazy ? Keep her and post pictures of that gem cmon Greene don't sell her
Trump will be back and bring down gas prices I hope.

1. Bidens not responsible for the global inflation .
2. Trump wants to be dictator -he lies continually, and yes he may return knowing all he has to do is get gas prices down and you people will allow him to do whatever he wants.

3. My boat ? Yes it’s for sale, but I’m still fishing .

[scook]

A comment about selling the boat. You may have reasons that make my comments not apply to your situation, but my son and I were talking about possible, pretty negative economic scenarios and agreed that holding onto hard assets was probably a pretty good hedge.

Tools you can use to make things that become hard to get or to fix things (if you’re inclined that way), a boat to go fishing in, your vehicle in good repair, things like that could be pretty important if things escalate (short of nuclear war) with Russia, China, etc. You don’t have to be an alarmist or extreme pepper to see the risk of a time when things may be difficult to source. My boat isn’t in anything like the condition of yours, but I’m holding onto it and looking to get it solid and reliable.

Just something to consider. You obviously enjoy fishing and being outdoors.

[bgreene]

A comment about selling the boat. You may have reasons that make my comments not apply to your situation, but my son and I were talking about possible, pretty negative economic scenarios and agreed that holding onto hard assets was probably a pretty good hedge.

Tools you can use to make things that become hard to get or to fix things (if you’re inclined that way), a boat to go fishing in, your vehicle in good repair, things like that could be pretty important if things escalate (short of nuclear war) with Russia, China, etc. You don’t have to be an alarmist or extreme pepper to see the risk of a time when things may be difficult to source. My boat isn’t in anything like the condition of yours, but I’m holding onto it and looking to get it solid and reliable.

Just something to consider. You obviously enjoy fishing and being outdoors.
Discussions such as boats best on other forum

[scook]

Well you mentioned it was still for sale - didn't seem inappropriate to make the comment. If you're interested in any more discussion on the subject, go ahead and make a post and I'll have a look.

[bgreene]

Big Oil - Republican Base - making a fortune on these high fuel prices while “ Dems “ take the blame.

They’re laughing all the way to the bank !!

[Destroyer]

Big Oil - Republican Base - making a fortune on these high fuel prices while “ Dems “ take the blame.

They’re laughing all the way to the bank !!

Yep... and WHO gave them the huge profits? Why, the Dems under Biden of course. It was Biden on day one of his reign that gas prices started their climb. Biden that shut down drilling is some areas, Biden that made permitting processes almost impossible for small companies to stay in business. but yes, of course blame big oil. Some people will swallow any lie told to them by the Dems...

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[bgreene]

Yep... and WHO gave them the huge profits? Why, the Dems under Biden of course. It was Biden on day one of his reign that gas prices started their climb. Biden that shut down drilling is some areas, Biden that made permitting processes almost impossible for small companies to stay in business. but yes, of course blame big oil. Some people will swallow any lie told to them by the Dems...

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And Republican big oil is laughing all the way to the bank !

[Pipe_Dream]

And Republican big oil is laughing all the way to the bank !

Are they still laughing?

https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/1524562069776916480

[Pipe_Dream]

US House Speaker Nancy Pelosi says Democrats will next week present a bill on gasoline price gouging. The bill will enable the president to issue emergency declaration making it illegal to increase the price of gasoline. "Price gouging needs to be stopped."

What will happen to the supply when price controls make it impossible to drill profitably?

[bgreene]

US House Speaker Nancy Pelosi says Democrats will next week present a bill on gasoline price gouging. The bill will enable the president to issue emergency declaration making it illegal to increase the price of gasoline. "Price gouging needs to be stopped."

What will happen to the supply when price controls make it impossible to drill profitably?

The two points do not connect at all .

[scook]

Good grief - have you ever taken a business of economics course - any 101 or lower level course should have covered it.

[Pipe_Dream]

The two points do not connect at all .

:you:

Tell me you know nothing about basic economics without actually saying, "I know nothing about basic economics."

Wait, you just did!

[scook]

This one's pretty amazing, even for bgreene.

[bgreene]

This one's pretty amazing, even for bgreene.

Republican Big Oil is GLAD it cost YOU a fortune to fill your auto tank.
Because Republican Big Oil is making a fortune off you !!!
While they sit back and laugh as Dems take the blame.

Fact, true painful as it is.

[Destroyer]

Republican Big Oil is GLAD it cost YOU a fortune to fill your auto tank.
Because Republican Big Oil is making a fortune off you !!!
While they sit back and laugh as Dems take the blame.

Fact, true painful as it is.

Dems are taking the blame because Dems ARE to blame. Remember just over a year ago and $2.69 a gallon gas? When did it start to rise? Hmmm... let me think.... Oh yes.. the very first day that Biden took office and canceled all the drilling and pipelines and such.

And if big Oil is getting rich, as you claim, isn't it likely that they are really Democrat Big Oil since the Democrats are in office and they started getting rich when they (the Dems) took power? They lost money during the Trump years and now you claim they are making lots of money. So what party is allowing them to make all that money?

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[bgreene]

Big Oil overwhelmingly donates to the Republican Party - look it up- FACT.

Big Oil does NOT want cheap prices or to drill so as to flood the market - they lose money.

Big Oil is making a fortune now - on us ! And they love it !

[scook]

Once again, would you expect a business sector to donate to a bunch of destructive, misguided ideologue fools, who have made it clear that they are all about completely killing the fossil fuel industry - putting it out of business? And this, before there is anything like adequate alternative energy sources?

You are sounding ever more deranged in your ignorant proclamations about the oil industry, but go ahead and support the draconian campaign to raise our energy costs and brutally punish the poor and middle income people who do the work you probably couldn't do even if you would "lower" yourself to try to do it.

[bgreene]

Once again, would you expect a business sector to donate to a bunch of destructive, misguided ideologue fools, who have made it clear that they are all about completely killing the fossil fuel industry - putting it out of business? And this, before there is anything like adequate alternative energy sources?

You are sounding ever more deranged in your ignorant proclamations about the oil industry, but go ahead and support the draconian campaign to raise our energy costs and brutally punish the poor and middle income people who do the work you probably couldn't do even if you would "lower" yourself to try to do it.

“ deranged “…..” ignorant “ writes scook about me .
Where are the insult police ????
Help ! Help officer !!! Scookie’s being mean !!!

Ok Scookie …..you’re under arrest . But I’m a Trump lover replies scookie !!!
That’s fine says the police officer, we’ll put you in the same cell with him.

[scook]

Has it ever occurred to you to cut the complete BS and actually respond to the post?

[bgreene]

Has it ever occurred to you to cut the complete BS and actually respond to the post?

Has it ever occurred to you that by supporting Trumps lies you’re contributing towards weakening our nation ?

[Destroyer]

Has it ever occurred to you that by supporting Trumps lies you’re contributing towards weakening our nation ?

Really? that might be interesting to hear. Please explain how supporting President Trump weakens our nation.

I remember not that long ago when he was the President that unemployment was the lowest in 40 years. Black and Hispanic unemployment was at historic lows, Business's were coming back to the United States. We were an oil exporting nation. Gas was 2.49 a gal. There was no inflation. Even with the pandemic the grocery stores shelves were full. Regulations were lifted to allow operation Warp Speed to proceed at full throttle that resulted in a workable vaccine long before other nations. The southern border was semi-secure. Not 100% but we were building a wall to make it 100%. That's just a small sample of how Trump "weakened" our Country. So please, by all means, do tell us how you think supporting him weakens our Nation.

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[scook]

Keeping an open mind isn’t the same as supporting, and it’s looking way less like a lie and way more like law enforcement should take it seriously.

You won’t take it seriously because it doesn’t support your biased, conspiracy theory narrative, but rational, non-far left people are.

And you still evade and deflect instead of cutting your incessant BS and actually answering posts.

[bgreene]

Keeping an open mind isn’t the same as supporting, and it’s looking way less like a lie and way more like law enforcement should take it seriously.

You won’t take it seriously because it doesn’t support your biased, conspiracy theory narrative, but rational, non-far left people are.

And you still evade and deflect instead of cutting your incessant BS and actually answering posts.

What’s this ? Scook posting the term “ BS “ !!!!
Has the Great Pumpkin risen from the Pumpkin Patch ??
Quick destroyer ……start crying foul !!!

Trump wants to gain absolute power and will insert yes men / women into every position he can until he becomes autocrat .

[scook]

So here is bgreene, very much doing word games, faking outrage and then repeating his favorite conspiracy theory.

[bgreene]

So here is bgreene, very much doing word games, faking outrage and then repeating his favorite conspiracy theory.


You’re wrong as usual - I’m not “ faking outrage “ at all - I expect insults from you based on your posting history .

[scook]

You’d benefit if you viewed my (and others’) comments as helpful suggestions.

[Pipe_Dream]

Really? that might be interesting to hear. Please explain how supporting President Trump weakens our nation.

I remember not that long ago when he was the President that unemployment was the lowest in 40 years. Black and Hispanic unemployment was at historic lows, Business's were coming back to the United States. We were an oil exporting nation. Gas was 2.49 a gal. There was no inflation. Even with the pandemic the grocery stores shelves were full. Regulations were lifted to allow operation Warp Speed to proceed at full throttle that resulted in a workable vaccine long before other nations. The southern border was semi-secure. Not 100% but we were building a wall to make it 100%. That's just a small sample of how Trump "weakened" our Country. So please, by all means, do tell us how you think supporting him weakens our Nation.

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Amazing how far we have fallen in the Biden era.

[bgreene]

Amazing how far we have fallen in the Biden era.

Presidents are in large part …..both victims and benefit from the times of their service .
Some of their policies are transformative, some good, some bad. Some forced to deal with war, some must raise and set new taxes ( as Bush Sr found out ), some stuck with economic decline .

Covid hit during trump …..and of course fewer Americans would have died if trump followed his oath to protect and defend as first priority . Instead while HE KNEW it would be a pandemic, he LIED saying “ it was under control , it would just go away, mixed messages on masks and on and on. Bad that’s another TRUE story. Yes trump supported the pharma companies through operation warp speed to devise vaccines, but of course to take credit.

[scook]

Never missing a chance to lie about Trump. He was a very strong cheerleader for America, and given his best information at the time, encouraging people to move ahead.

On to specific lies - Trump executed like an executive should and pressed hard to get vaccines created, which he did on the timeline he predicted. He took credit for what he accomplished. Biden and the other lying democrats LIED, calling it the Trump vaccine and LYING ignorantly about its safety. Hmmm, I wonder how many lives that cost?

[bgreene]

Never missing a chance to lie about Trump. He was a very strong cheerleader for America, and given his best information at the time, encouraging people to move ahead.

On to specific lies - Trump executed like an executive should and pressed hard to get vaccines created, which he did on the timeline he predicted. He took credit for what he accomplished. Biden and the other lying democrats LIED, calling it the Trump vaccine and LYING ignorantly about its safety. Hmmm, I wonder how many lives that cost?

Since you LOVE Big Oil - they’d be happy to charge YOU $10 per gallon of regular fuel .

[scook]

Is this what passes for discussion, or anything like useful discourse in your mind?

[bgreene]

Is this what passes for discussion, or anything like useful discourse in your mind?

Since you throw nearly non stop personal insults scook - you deserve nothing.
You’ve earned personal insults in return ……but instead I’ll just tell you to “ go have a cookie- scookie “

[scook]

As usual, you are unable to engage the subject.

[Pipe_Dream]

https://www.johnstossel.com/pumping-up-prices/


And with that said, the pResident is again turning to the socialist dictatorship Venezuela for oil, lifting sanctions on the country from which the US has imported NO OIL since May, 2019. From near energy independence to reliance on oil from a socialist dictatorship in 3 years. What's pResident Biden been doing to destroy America? A lot!

[scook]

That’s so obvious that you shouldn’t need to post it, and the one who does need to hear it is so blinded by ignorance and bias that it won’t affect his thinking. Sad.

[bgreene]

That’s so obvious that you shouldn’t need to post it, and the one who does need to hear it is so blinded by ignorance and bias that it won’t affect his thinking. Sad.

“ blinded by ignorance “ Claims Scook
Hahahah you’re a funny guy - now go get your shine box

[scook]

Bias and ignorance. You demonstrate you ignorance about business and economics convincingly.

[Pipe_Dream]

The videos embedded in this opinion piece contain testimony from Biden's hand-picked Interior Secretary Deb Haaland. She evades answering questions about gas prices, oil leases, and environmental impacts from developing foreign versus domestic energy.

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2022/05/that-which-cannot-be-said.php

Don't bother condemning the messenger. Listen yourself to Haaland's own remarks and try to convince me that the administration isn't harpooning domestic energy. And to think that we were nearly energy independent a few short years ago. As Obama said, elections have consequences. One of those consequences is the appointment of incompetents to important federal positions, and the adoption of policies that hurt Americans.

[bgreene]

Bias and ignorance. You demonstrate you ignorance about business and economics convincingly.

You’re boring scookie - go have a cookie

[scook]

There’s a typical reply.