And the threat of nuclear war continues

[bgreene]

While President Biden and Putin recently set nuc limitations, China’s pressing ahead to line up with Russia and our country with a “ triad of nuclear war capabilities” Chinas also pressing g ahead with their space based nuc’s so as to be able to rain them down in a war.

Ughhh…..as the Cold War died down, so did the nuc race, but it’s ramped back up again and where does it end ? The MAD policy was good enough but now not good enough.

Beautiful planet earth….just before humans a global garden with someone dangerous creatures but not bad as us

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2022-01-30/u-s-isn-t-prepared-for-a-nuclear-war-with-russia-and-china

[Destroyer]

While President Biden and Putin recently set nuc limitations, China’s pressing ahead to line up with Russia and our country with a “ triad of nuclear war capabilities” Chinas also pressing g ahead with their space based nuc’s so as to be able to rain them down in a war.

Ughhh…..as the Cold War died down, so did the nuc race, but it’s ramped back up again and where does it end ? The MAD policy was good enough but now not good enough.

Beautiful planet earth….just before humans a global garden with someone dangerous creatures but not bad as us

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2022-01-30/u-s-isn-t-prepared-for-a-nuclear-war-with-russia-and-china


Funny that the threat of nuc war and the cold war never surfaced while President Trump was in office. But in just over a year under Biden and his senile blathering gobbledygook actions and stumbling sentences the Triad now seems to think that nothing will happen to them.

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[bgreene]

Funny that the threat of nuc war and the cold war never surfaced while President Trump was in office. But in just over a year under Biden and his senile blathering gobbledygook actions and stumbling sentences the Triad now seems to think that nothing will happen to them.

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Wrong again destroyer …..actually the “ doomsday clock” advanced under the lying cheating con man traitor trump

[Destroyer]

Wrong again destroyer …..actually the “ doomsday clock” advanced under the lying cheating con man traitor trump

Proof please

[bgreene]

Proof please

Proof please says destroyer pretending he can’t check this simple FACT for himself .
Oh proof please ….yeh sure


https://www.science.org/content/article/doomsday-clock-ticks-30-seconds-closer-midnight-thanks-trump

[scook]

Well, that’s an OPINION piece if one was ever written. Written by people, who may have a good understanding of some kinds of science, but right down near zero understanding of negotiation.

A point that you, bgreene, don’t seem to apprehend is that Trump, while unpleasant in many ways, probably had more actual, real world executive experience than all of the presidents of our lifetimes, combined - unquestionably more business experience. He actually knows how to get things done and got a lot of remarkable things done, in spite of being dishonestly harassed by despicable political hack Democrats and blocked persistently by lawsuits and congressional gridlock.

We pretty much all love fishing and the outdoors, so there are varying degrees of agreement about some of his environmental decisions, but just about everything he did improved the world political situation, e.g. Middle East progress, North Korea, etc., massive improvement in the economy and in-migration of jobs, in spite of media lies that he is a racist, the LOWEST black unemployment in HISTORY, got a vaccine (that you strongly advocate) developed with amazing speed (and Biden and other lying, despicable Democrats said was no good because it was Trump vaccine) - the list goes on. Obama, by comparison had the unmitigated ego to run for the office with a resume lacking executive experience that would qualify him to manage a gas station. Trump actually did an outstanding job.

There looks to be an increased risk of catastrophic war, but it’s down to Biden’s slobbering weakness and incompetence, not to anything Trump did.

[scook]

Your link to an OPINION piece and billing it as PROOF, demonstrates the degree of your incompetence and why your OPINIONS are discounted by rational people. You don’t know what a FACT is.

[bgreene]

The risk of Nuclear War is of course an opinion based on data such as
Increased human aggressions and many other factors .

The FACT is YES the “Doomsday Clock” was pushed closer to “ midnight “ during Trumps Presidency .

Question was asked and I provided the answer .

Scook - you’re so wound up about being right you miss the point that’s clearly defined.
Try to calm down

[scook]

You are a text book example of “projection”. That’s where you project your problems onto others - it is you who is obsessed with being right and have only snarky, clumsy responses to other opinions, or being shown to be wrong in your extreme bias.

[bgreene]

The risk of Nuclear War is of course an opinion based on data such as
Increased human aggressions and many other factors .

The FACT is YES the “Doomsday Clock” was pushed closer to “ midnight “ during Trumps Presidency .

Question was asked and I provided the answer .

[scook]

You provided AN answer, based on some people’s opinions. Your answer is certainly not a knowable fact and I, along with many others, disagree with it.

[bgreene]

You provided AN answer, based on some people’s opinions. Your answer is certainly not a knowable fact and I, along with many others, disagree with it.

Well good for you ….. another denial by virtue of labeling as “ opinion”.
1 + 1 = 2 except of course if trump says no you followers will agree.

[scook]

Just observing things things as they have happened and are happening now - not exclusively seeking out opinions that only agree with a biased anti-Trump agenda.

I’m not a follower of Trump, I just recognize his strong points along with his weaknesses - that he was the most competent, experienced and effective executive we’ve had in our lifetimes. That’s opposed to being a “follower” of dishonest, biased news sources that feed a mindless confirmation bias - that would be you.

[bgreene]

Scook ….still crying that MAJOR American NEWS that report the TRUTH and FACTS ARE dishonest when reporting news that doesn’t favor Trump .

Still whining …and whining

[scook]

You just can’t help repeating and reinforcing your obnoxious, dishonest snarky blather.

[bgreene]

You just can’t help repeating and reinforcing your obnoxious, dishonest snarky blather.

“ obnoxious, dishonest snarky blather” says scookie up to a full head of steam now…
Now firing a full barrage of insults as the LAW closes in on Trump.

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[scook]

There you go again - out of control.

[bgreene]

There you go again - out of control.

Hhahahah.......those are the words YOU WROTE TO ME.......

Oh I get it.....this FACT is an opinion.......just because you wrote those comments to me doesn't mean bla bla bla......

Trump to prison 2022

[scook]

The record is stuck - just keeps repeating.

[bgreene]

The record is stuck - just keeps repeating.

The only record that’s stuck is your record of continued insults

[Destroyer]

The only record that’s stuck is your record of continued insults

:haha: So says the "man" that is well known on this forum for his personal insults. :you:

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[scook]

I made an extended attempt to have an honest, respectful discussion about the issues you were raising. At the first challenge to your opinions you got snarky and disrespectful.

You have no place to stand, accusing anyone of being insulting, with your “calm down”, “take your blanket and have a nap”, “you need a time out”. You have consistently resorted to infantile, mindless attempts at derision and incessant repeating of questionable or false information.

You have steadfastly ignored suggestions that you broaden your views to include currently important problems that are actually threatening our democracy, while claiming to be a deeply concerned patriot.

Attempts at thoughtful discussion with you have uniformly been a waste of time. My consolation is that you’re not convincing anyone who isn’t already as rigidly biased as yourself, and beyond seeing reason, of your extreme conspiracy theories.

You will, no doubt, reply with something snarky, insulting and completely off point. For an insult from you to have any effect, I would first have to have at least a modicum of respect for you opinions. Have a nice day.

[scook]

Thanks D - I didn’t see your post until after I’d posted mine.

[Destroyer]

The risk of Nuclear War is of course an opinion based on data such as
Increased human aggressions and many other factors .

The FACT is YES the “Doomsday Clock” was pushed closer to “ midnight “ during Trumps Presidency .

Question was asked and I provided the answer .

Scook - you’re so wound up about being right you miss the point that’s clearly defined.
Try to calm down

Getting back to my original statement where I asked you to provide proof, (proof please) you provided what you claimed is proof. You failed to point out that the "clock" was advanced by 30 seconds by a bunch of people in the very beginning of Trumps Presidency in 2017 before he was ever given a chance to actually do anything. It was based almost solely on an opinion piece written by the NY Times. (A media outlet well known for it's extremely biased reporting against Trump). It has about as much validity as my saying that I've invented a new fishing lure that catches nothing but big fish on EVERY cast. In other words, ZERO.

So while indeed your statement was correct, and the clock was advanced, you once again provided "proof" of your statement that was based upon an opinion piece and not on scientific fact. (And for the record, the whole "Doomsday clock" scenario is nothing but a opinion postulated by people who may or may not have hidden agendas). It's about what I would expect from an elitist snob that thinks his opinions are all that counts because he thinks he knows better than everyone else.

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[Destroyer]

Thanks D - I didn’t see your post until after I’d posted mine.

Always happy to point out his hypocrisy.

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[bgreene]

Getting back to my original statement where I asked you to provide proof, (proof please) you provided what you claimed is proof. You failed to point out that the "clock" was advanced by 30 seconds by a bunch of people in the very beginning of Trumps Presidency in 2017 before he was ever given a chance to actually do anything. It was based almost solely on an opinion piece written by the NY Times. (A media outlet well known for it's extremely biased reporting against Trump). It has about as much validity as my saying that I've invented a new fishing lure that catches nothing but big fish on EVERY cast. In other words, ZERO.

So while indeed your statement was correct, and the clock was advanced, you once again provided "proof" of your statement that was based upon an opinion piece and not on scientific fact. (And for the record, the whole "Doomsday clock" scenario is nothing but a opinion postulated by people who may or may not have hidden agendas). It's about what I would expect from an elitist snob that thinks his opinions are all that counts because he thinks he knows better than everyone else.

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The doomsday clock is an estimate based on many factors .
The FACT that the clock WAS ADVANCED under Trumps Presidency IS A FACT.
As usual I post facts and truth.

You want to add a bunch of yeh but thats fine but doesnt require insults .
You have a need to insult me with nearly every post oh well whatever.

[Destroyer]

The doomsday clock is an estimate based on many factors .
The FACT that the clock WAS ADVANCED under Trumps Presidency IS A FACT.
Thats it and as usual I post facts and truth.

You want to add a bunch of yeh but thats fine but doesnt require insults .
You have a need to insult me with nearly every post oh well whatever.

Hey!! I admitted that you were right and that the "supposed" clock was advanced. I also pointed out that it was really just an opinion postulated by a few people back in 2017 that hate Trump.

You usually post a bunch of BS opinion pieces that you claim are facts and truth.

Where did I insult you?

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[bgreene]

Hey!! I admitted that you were right and that the "supposed" clock was advanced. I also pointed out that it was really just an opinion postulated by a few people back in 2017 that hate Trump.

You usually post a bunch of BS opinion pieces that you claim are facts and truth.

Where did I insult you?

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“ a bunch of BS opinion pieces” claims destroyer about the links and news I post.
Ok destroyer ….I realize that as our laws close in on the lying cheating con traitor trump you’ll get more desperate and nasty .

[Destroyer]

***8220; a bunch of BS opinion pieces***8221; claims destroyer about the links and news I post.
Ok destroyer ***8230;.I realize that as our laws close in on the lying cheating con traitor trump you***8217;ll get more desperate and nasty .

:haha: If the shoe fits, wear it Greene :you: That wasn't an insult. It was my opinion of what you post. Surely you cannot deny me my opinion?


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[bgreene]

:haha: If the shoe fits, wear it Greene :you: That wasn't an insult. It was my opinion of what you post. Surely you cannot deny me my opinion?


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Yes destroyer I CERTAINLY DO REJECT YOUR STATED OPINIONS THAT I AM A
“ anus for sex “
“ feces “
“ POS “
And all the other nastyness you write.

[scook]

Destroyer, I think we are wasting our time responding to the stuff posted by bgreen. While I agree that the far-left nonsense needs to be pushed back against, I don't think anyone here is being swayed in any way by what he's posting.

Recent examples:

1) Proof that Fox is a sham - coming from a leftwing "fact checker" and doesn't have the wit to realize that they are including all statements, most of which are opinion pieces, not reported as news, and are probably factual anyway. As to Fox printing more retractions, if that is true, it indicates that they are more honest that other sources, who tend not to retract lies if they think they can get away with them.

2) Says he's not far left, but gleefully posts about anything the least bit negative about Trump or the Republicans. How stupid are the statements that Republicans now support violence and Trump encouraged violence against other Americans. A few nut jobs "saying" he "told them" to attack the capitol is proof of that? Completely ignoring the huge real threats to our democracy including attempts to dishonestly consolidate power with the socialist (and worse) democrats.

3) Trump WILL, not even MIGHT, do a Nazi Germany on our country - not even worth a response.

4) As you point out, his nonsense is legion.

I enjoy your posts of actual credible information and would miss them - my only point is that no one listens to the incompetent drivel he posts, so pushback isn't likely making much real difference. It was recreational, to a point, for me, but I'm thinking again that it's a waste of my time. High marks to you for consistent corrections of the record.

[bgreene]

Scook

1. I don’t “ gleefully “ report the facts and truth but I do so proudly as an honest American supporting our Constitution and our Democracy .

2. My reference to Trumps APPROACH following Hitlers model is accurate as it applies to :
A. Labeling a so called enemy ( any non supporters included)
B. Attaching label of so called enemies with LIES repeated again and again .
C. Try to seize power attached with nationalism as excuse for over riding existing systems

3. Good if your not interested and “ wasting your time “ replying - good - stop posting .
I won’t stop posting the truth and the facts …except when you and destroyer get nasty and vulgar then I’ll reply as appropriate .

But good - I support your position to stop replying to my factual threads and posts.

[bgreene]

And would benefit this site if DESTROYER ALSO stops posting …

Just today destroyer called me a “ lying piece of excrement “
In the past he’s called me an “ anus for sex” and other nasty things.

I’ll continue to post FACTS and the TRUTH as things evolve here in our country and the world.

[Destroyer]

And would benefit this site if DESTROYER ALSO stops posting …

Just today destroyer called me a “ lying piece of excrement “
In the past he’s called me an “ anus for sex” and other nasty things.

I’ll continue to post FACTS and the TRUTH as things evolve here in our country and the world.

Well, just like you Greene, I only post FACTS. So if the shoe fits..... :you:

(oh, and please get it correct. I said you were an "Anus USED for sex". In other words a complete "Fu*king A$$hole").

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[Destroyer]

Destroyer, I think we are wasting our time responding to the stuff posted by bgreen. While I agree that the far-left nonsense needs to be pushed back against, I don't think anyone here is being swayed in any way by what he's posting.

Recent examples:

1) Proof that Fox is a sham - coming from a leftwing "fact checker" and doesn't have the wit to realize that they are including all statements, most of which are opinion pieces, not reported as news, and are probably factual anyway. As to Fox printing more retractions, if that is true, it indicates that they are more honest that other sources, who tend not to retract lies if they think they can get away with them.

2) Says he's not far left, but gleefully posts about anything the least bit negative about Trump or the Republicans. How stupid are the statements that Republicans now support violence and Trump encouraged violence against other Americans. A few nut jobs "saying" he "told them" to attack the capitol is proof of that? Completely ignoring the huge real threats to our democracy including attempts to dishonestly consolidate power with the socialist (and worse) democrats.

3) Trump WILL, not even MIGHT, do a Nazi Germany on our country - not even worth a response.

4) As you point out, his nonsense is legion.

I enjoy your posts of actual credible information and would miss them - my only point is that no one listens to the incompetent drivel he posts, so pushback isn't likely making much real difference. It was recreational, to a point, for me, but I'm thinking again that it's a waste of my time. High marks to you for consistent corrections of the record.

Thank you for the complement(s). I take that as high praise coming from you. You may have noticed that I've been here a little less often, for much the same reason that you just voiced. It's hard arguing with an idiot day after day. So I'm trying to keep my visits to this forum thread down to just a couple of times a week. I still stop in almost every day. I just don't come here. You might want to adopt the same attitude. :head:

[scook]

You’re right - there are some things that really do need to be answered. That’s a good balance. Thanks

[bgreene]

Well, just like you Greene, I only post FACTS. So if the shoe fits..... :you:

(oh, and please get it correct. I said you were an "Anus USED for sex". In other words a complete "Fu*king A$$hole").

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And here’s the REAL destroyer - vulgar, nasty and disrespecting this web site.
Destroyer …the guy who told everyone to be polite .
Destroyer …the hypocrite who has no self control.

Of course I could reply with similar right back at you - but I don’t because IM THE BETTER MAN

[bgreene]

Well, just like you Greene, I only post FACTS. So if the shoe fits..... :you:

(oh, and please get it correct. I said you were an "Anus USED for sex". In other words a complete "Fu*king A$$hole").

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Destroyer - you need a time out - go sit in a corner facing the wall mr vulgar

[Destroyer]

And here’s the REAL destroyer - vulgar, nasty and disrespecting this web site.
Destroyer …the guy who told everyone to be polite .
Destroyer …the hypocrite who has no self control.

Of course I could reply with similar right back at you - but I don’t because IM THE BETTER MAN

:haha: HAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Riiiiiiiight :you: So says the boy with the IQ of a crayon.

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[bgreene]

:haha: HAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Riiiiiiiight :you: So says the boy with the IQ of a crayon.

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Destroyer - it’s over - you lose . You’re proven hypocrite and liar by your own posts

[Destroyer]

Destroyer - it’s over - you lose . You’re proven hypocrite and liar by your own posts


Really? So I'm a proven hypocrite and a liar? That must mean you have proof of your statement. Please supply them for all of us to see. Otherwise one might think you were just making up things to say, kind of like an empty drum. Are you an empty drum Greene?

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[bgreene]

Really? So I'm a proven hypocrite and a liar? That must mean you have proof of your statement. Please supply them for all of us to see. Otherwise one might think you were just making up things to say, kind of like an empty drum. Are you an empty drum Greene?

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1. Hypocrite - you write asking all to be polite, claim you’re a gentleman , then repeatedly post vulgar nasty insults .
2. Liar - refer to 1.

Wow you’re also boring