Trumps accounting firm quits

[bgreene]

Mazurs Accounting firm now states that the accuracy of the last 10 years of Trump records cannot be varified and they no longer represent him.

And there it is …..similar to Al Capone brought down by cheating the government , trumps in deeper self inflicted business trouble now.

Under the Martin Act as a Civil case doesn’t even have to prove trump provided FALSE DATA intentionally - just the fact that his organizations did so, cheating is proof enough.

He deserves what he gets as lying cheating con man same as any other .

[scook]

Let’s convict him based on pursuit by a far left, New York prosecutor with a Trump-hating agenda, and an accounting firm that was happy to take his money and file his returns, etc. for YEARS, but wants to distance from the assault on him now, instead of watching how it comes out after at least a pretense of due process.

He’s been “in trouble” with the agenda driven, flagrantly dishonest “law” since before even taking office. That all proved to be completely phony, but is still pushed by the slimy Aam Schiff - disgraceful.

More evidence of Hilary Clinton’s despicable attempts to FRAME Trump is surfacing, but it’s appropriate to wait and let due process take its course.

[bgreene]

Here comes scook out of the gate with his excuses and more excuses to support the lying g cheating con traitor Trump no matter what .

As many crooks before trump, sometimes it takes a long time for the law to catch up …..as in the case of Bernie Maddof and countless other crooks.

Trumps been a “ teflon don” type for decades but we’ll see what happens

[scook]

Predictably, here comes bgreene with his signature dishonest non-response. A reasonable person reading my post wouldn’t find a hint of any kind of excuse, only facts, and an admonition to actually wait and see what actually comes of the allegations.

We know that there have been a plethora of false allegations against Trump, so it’s foolish to jump to conviction at the first accusations. It’s not driven by facts or reason, just a childish, gleeful delight in ANYTHING that even MIGHT be something negative about him.

My confirmation bias, along with decades of observation of her behavior, incline me to believe that Hillary is in fact guilty of having operatives actually hack into the Trump Tower servers, but not being a fool, I will wait to see what comes of the investigation. I just hope there is a fair and honest investigation done.

[bgreene]

Predictably, here comes bgreene with his signature dishonest non-response. A reasonable person reading my post wouldn’t find a hint of any kind of excuse, only facts, and an admonition to actually wait and see what actually comes of the allegations.

We know that there have been a plethora of false allegations against Trump, so it’s foolish to jump to conviction at the first accusations. It’s not driven by facts or reason, just a childish, gleeful delight in ANYTHING that even MIGHT be something negative about him.

My confirmation bias, along with decades of observation of her behavior, incline me to believe that Hillary is in fact guilty of having operatives actually hack into the Trump Tower servers, but not being a fool, I will wait to see what comes of the investigation. I just hope there is a fair and honest investigation done.

More conspiracy theories from scook now with Hillary Clinton thrown in.

[bgreene]

You should note scook

…”Nowhere in Durham's filing did prosecutors say that the effort was directed by or involved the Clinton campaign, that any of the alleged gathering of data took place after Trump had taken office, or that any of the alleged conduct -- even if it took place -- was illegal.”

[scook]

Reading really is a challenge for you.

I didn’t suggest that this particular activity took place after he was in office. There was plenty of other dishonest anti-Trump activity while he was in office.

I said that, unlike you, while I’m inclined to believe that Hillary is behind the hacking into Trump Tower servers, unlike you, I’m willing to wait and see where the investigation goes. Honest, competent investigations tend to uncover additional facts and connections.

It is only in your imagination that you find anything like a conspiracy theory in my post and you should really be able to identify one, you being the undisputed champion of conspiracy theories, with your preposterous Trump - Nazi narrative.

[bgreene]

Reading really is a challenge for you.

I didn’t suggest that this particular activity took place after he was in office. There was plenty of other dishonest anti-Trump activity while he was in office.

I said that, unlike you, while I’m inclined to believe that Hillary is behind the hacking into Trump Tower servers, unlike you, I’m willing to wait and see where the investigation goes. Honest, competent investigations tend to uncover additional facts and connections.

It is only in your imagination that you find anything like a conspiracy theory in my post and you should really be able to identify one, you being the undisputed champion of conspiracy theories, with your preposterous Trump - Nazi narrative.

Scooks comments about me on just this one thread …..as example
“ reading is a challenge for me”.
“ only in my imagination”
“ my preposterous trump- nazi narrative “

Regarding the trump-nazi comparative, the similarity that I pointed out is correct:
1. Grandstand about nationalism through powerful speeches
2. Define a so called enemy and connect it with stirring up agitation
3. Keep repeating lies and blame to gain power associated with nationalism
4. Once in power eliminate non supporters

Trump plays this method very effectively and is an excellent speaker.
Trump is street smart and stated “ he believes he could shoot someone in Times Square and get away with it.” Trump is very aware of his ability to con the masses.
Fortunately many of us FACT CHECK and do not follow blindly.

[scook]

Similarity of rhetorical style - yes, to a very limited point.

Some things you consistently ignore:

We are not subject to the kind of overly oppressive situation Germany found itself in, being punished for its WWI criminal behavior.

We have structural, constitutional safeguards, which have been very effectively employed (in many cases, dishonestly) against Trump to date and are easily capable of preventing the Nazi narrative you espouse.

You completely ignore the serious threat and significant progress that the left has made, doing exactly what you accuse Trump of doing. Using victim grievance and extremely racist claims of racism, among other things, in lieu of nationalistic speeches, they have and continue to consolidate power on the far left. They are flooding us with uncontrolled, un-vetted immigrants, eroding simple rights and freedoms, forcing their destructive narrative down the throats of our students, cancelling dissenting voices, censoring media, etc. They are actually doing what you speculatively accuse Trump of “wanting” to do.

Does there need to be push back when big business abuses its power, yes - do we need ANTIFA and BLM anarchists and wildly “tear it all down and replace it with, well shucks we don’t know what”, absolutely not. Do we need sustained lawless destruction and DA’s who prosecute police officers for doing their jobs, but not criminal thugs, absolutely not.

Please WAKE UP.

[Pipe_Dream]

Similarity of rhetorical style - yes, to a very limited point.

Some things you consistently ignore:

We are not subject to the kind of overly oppressive situation Germany found itself in, being punished for its WWI criminal behavior.

We have structural, constitutional safeguards, which have been very effectively employed (in many cases, dishonestly) against Trump to date and are easily capable of preventing the Nazi narrative you espouse.

You completely ignore the serious threat and significant progress that the left has made, doing exactly what you accuse Trump of doing. Using victim grievance and extremely racist claims of racism, among other things, in lieu of nationalistic speeches, they have and continue to consolidate power on the far left. They are flooding us with uncontrolled, un-vetted immigrants, eroding simple rights and freedoms, forcing their destructive narrative down the throats of our students, cancelling dissenting voices, censoring media, etc. They are actually doing what you speculatively accuse Trump of ***8220;wanting***8221; to do.

Does there need to be push back when big business abuses its power, yes - do we need ANTIFA and BLM anarchists and wildly ***8220;tear it all down and replace it with, well shucks we don***8217;t know what***8221;, absolutely not. Do we need sustained lawless destruction and DA***8217;s who prosecute police officers for doing their jobs, but not criminal thugs, absolutely not.

Please WAKE UP.

He never will. CNNMSNBCABCCBSNBCWAPONYT have scrambled his brain. But I applaud your efforts as you've brought a calm and factual approach to the forum, which he obviously can't deal with as evidenced by him attacking you.




(bgreene tries to discredit me with some drooling dream he had about the National Enquirer in 3...2...1...)

[scook]

Thanks Pipe - unfortunately, it seems you are exactly right.

I loved the Donaldo Trumpo clip.:clap:

[bgreene]

Similarity of rhetorical style - yes, to a very limited point.

Some things you consistently ignore:

We are not subject to the kind of overly oppressive situation Germany found itself in, being punished for its WWI criminal behavior.

We have structural, constitutional safeguards, which have been very effectively employed (in many cases, dishonestly) against Trump to date and are easily capable of preventing the Nazi narrative you espouse.

You completely ignore the serious threat and significant progress that the left has made, doing exactly what you accuse Trump of doing. Using victim grievance and extremely racist claims of racism, among other things, in lieu of nationalistic speeches, they have and continue to consolidate power on the far left. They are flooding us with uncontrolled, un-vetted immigrants, eroding simple rights and freedoms, forcing their destructive narrative down the throats of our students, cancelling dissenting voices, censoring media, etc. They are actually doing what you speculatively accuse Trump of “wanting” to do.

Does there need to be push back when big business abuses its power, yes - do we need ANTIFA and BLM anarchists and wildly “tear it all down and replace it with, well shucks we don’t know what”, absolutely not. Do we need sustained lawless destruction and DA’s who prosecute police officers for doing their jobs, but not criminal thugs, absolutely not.

Please WAKE UP.

No Scook - you wake up ….

It was RIGHT WING TRUMP supporters who…..attacked our Capitol, police, and threatened to hang our Vice President.
It’s Republican TRUMP who FALSY CLAIMS he won the election .
It’s Republican TRUMP who FALSY CLAMIED Pence had authority to deny the election result .
It’s REPUBLICANS that are trying so hard to minimize the reality of the attack on our Capitol.
It’s REPUBLICANS such as Mitch McConnell now speaking up against the lies of Trump.

It WAS NOT Democrats, tree loving environmentalists, or any other so called Leftists that smashed into our Capitol and pose threat to undermine our democracy and destroy our system of fair elections.

So go ahead with the others posting “ mutual admiration ignorance “conspiracy theories ….

[scook]

I haven’t seen anyone here disputing that the small percentage of the huge demonstration who broke in AND were violent were extreme right wing supporters of Trump. Them saying that he “told them to do it” isn’t borne out, listening to any of his speeches or any other evidence.

A difference of opinion, even if one party is wrong, if it is believed, isn’t a LIE, it’s a difference of opinion.

It WAS far left goons who did massive damage to our country, far, far, far in excess of anything that happened at the capitol, over a long period, permissioned to this day by far left DA’s. If you think the violence at the capitol, while foolish and destructive had the remotest probability of ultimate success, which it appears you do, you are incredibly deluded.

And by the way, a little research indicates that electronic spying on the Trump administration did continue after he was president and that there was a connection to the Clinton campaign. CNN may have missed that.

You do truly need to wake up to the real threats to our democracy - being carried out under you nose.

[bgreene]

Scook writes this….
…….” If you think the violence at the capitol, while foolish and destructive had the remotest probability of ultimate success, which it appears you do, you are incredibly deluded. “

Scook - that’s not close to the point and your credibility continues to drop with each of your comments such as that.

In FACT if not for the VERY BRAVE POLICEMAN who purposely backed up having trumps mob following him AWAY from the section where our people were located, the outcome could have been much much worse .

Saying “ oh it never would have “ with over 100 of our police injured is extremely disrespectful and a vey wrong thing to write. Wow.

[scook]

If you suggest that I disrespect the line police officers, you are definitely barking up the wrong tree. I certainly don’t respect Pelosi, who’s I’m charge of the Capitol Police and who refused more officers. She almost certainly was hoping for something bad enough to use to her and the left’s political advantage, so is largely responsible for the extent of the damage, not excusing the thugs who did the damage.

It would be interesting to know how many more police officers were injured in the continuous riots sanctioned by the left wing politicians and prosecutors across the country. In your obsession with Trump, you are blind to what’s really going on that’s damaging the country and threatening our democracy.

I said earlier that I don’t think it very likely that the mob would have killed the VP, of course it’s possible, but VERY unlikely. Then there would have been murder charges to answer, as there should be.

My credibility is well intact - I write factual posts in an effort to correct your wild flights of extremism and biased OPINIONS based on partial or completely false “FACTS”. OF COURSE THE CAPITOL RIOT WAS A BAD THING, but it had absolutely ZERO chance of being an insurrection and was not the least threat to our democracy - what the left is doing as we write is a huge threat to our democracy and your ignoring and minimizing it is not patriotic in any way.

Your credibility has been near zero since you started making political posts and you’ve done nothing to redeem it.

[bgreene]

Zero CHANCE of insurrection says scook …..as if that means much.
Over 700 trump supporters charged with crimes plus attempted insurrection charges.
As you and destroyer have tried to label as the “ few “ and those that got rowdy” to try and minimize that violent historic event.

And the so called coincidence that Trump gave speech encouraging his followers to “ fight like hell” while trumps sleazy lawyer Giuliani also encouraging “ trial by combat” .
What it really was …….encouraged violence.

Meanwhile this so called “ left” that you blame for the riots that mostly occurred after George Floyd’s wrongful death ……not connected to President Obama or Bidens agendas, neither men encouraged violence from Americans against each other .

Back to it …..so Trumps accounting firm now wants no part of Trump and claims they can’t substantiate the accuracy (honesty )of records they’ve received from trump.
Gee wiz not surprised on this because trumps a lying cheating con traitor .

[bgreene]

Zero CHANCE of insurrection says scook …..as if that means much.
Over 700 trump supporters charged with crimes plus attempted insurrection charges.
As you and destroyer have tried to label as the “ few “ and those that got rowdy” to try and minimize that violent historic event.

And the so called coincidence that Trump gave speech encouraging his followers to “ fight like hell” while trumps sleazy lawyer Giuliani also encouraging “ trial by combat” .
What it really was …….encouraged violence.

Meanwhile this so called “ left” that you blame for the riots that mostly occurred after George Floyd’s wrongful death ……not connected to President Obama or Bidens agendas, neither men encouraged violence from Americans against each other .

Back to it …..so Trumps accounting firm now wants no part of Trump and claims they can’t substantiate the accuracy (honesty )of records they’ve received from trump.
Gee wiz not surprised on this because trumps a lying cheating con traitor .

[Pipe_Dream]

:you:

[scook]

Zero chance of success means rather a lot when YOU have repeatedly billed the event as the greatest threat to our democracy since the civil war. Since it was no threat at all, your calling it that is indeed incompetent blather.

“Fight like hell”, the phrase used repeatedly by probably every politician alive, is a call to violence, ONLY when used by Trump? “Trial by combat”, have you never heard of analogies, good grief?

Uttering the words “so called left” demonstrates your ignorance (or complicity) with respect to the endless violence, very much encouraged and permissioned by the left. Members of congress were even setting up funds to bail the violent thugs out and referring to federal officers who were dispatched to protect federal property, e.g. courthouses, that local far left politicians wouldn’t ALLOW local police to protect, as attacking the citizens. Any time a person of color is killed by a police officer, no matter what the facts of the situation, it’s murder and there are riots. Some of the killings are very wrong and some are very justified. The wrong ones are illegal and should be honestly prosecuted. As ONE example, the officer who shot the girl who had a knife poised to murder another girl was immediately and ignorantly labeled by Biden, his VP and other prominent far left politicians as a white supremicist murderer - Biden’s agenda of falsely vilifying honest officers for his political gain not part of the problem? Yes, you are willfully ignorant and blind to the massive threat of the left dividing Americans against each other and very much encouraging LOTS of violence.

Honest people have different views, but in my lifetime, I have seen absolutely huge improvements in race relations and equalizing of opportunity and fair treatment/protection of everyone. We certainly haven’t arrived at anything like perfection, but the divisive (turning Americans against each other) that the left is currently pushing HARD seems to me to be reversing and wasting the progress that has been painfully made since MLK and a lot of very brave people did their work.

Back to the accounting firm - they were certainly providing “audited” financial statements. While that may be outside your area of understanding, it’s not outside of mine - it was their RESPONSIBILITY to verify the data. If it’s fraudulent, they are likely on the hook criminally. Of course you’re not surprised - you don’t understand the area in question (really don’t understand it) and view everything through your extreme confirmation bias. Gee whiz, not surprised.

[bgreene]

LAWS OF OUR LAND APPLY as JUDGE SAYS Trump and his kids now must testify UNDER OATH.

I’m guessing Trump will “ plead the 5th” to avoid being caught LYING UNDER OATH.
Of course likely, but that will PROVE trump has a lot to hide.

You guys can keep up the excuses, back peddling, blaming others , spinning the facts …….that’s just a lot of work .

For me …so easy. The truth is pure, the facts do not change.
It’s all about keeping the lying cheating con traitor trump from eliminating our democracy.
God bless America

[scook]

He might plead the fifth, which is his right. If he does it might be motivated by a serious distrust of the system - we’ll see how it comes out, AFTER the legal process. Pleading the fifth doesn’t PROVE anything, it’s simply exercising a right - if Hillary gets to court, she’ll probably do the same, or just lie, which is her habit.

Once again, a dishonest, non-response. No one is spinning anything, backpedaling, blaming others or making excuses. Your accusing others of these things is simply dishonest. If he’s actually proven guilty of something, he’ll get punished.

Yes, the truth is pure, facts don’t change and you have no idea of what those things are. You are so obsessed with vilifying Trump and Republicans that you can’t wait for real facts, or twist things you hear, facts or not, with your extreme bias.

[bgreene]

“….obsessed with vilifying trump “ claims the know it all scook….

Well WRONG AGAIN SCOOKIE ……just the FACTS regarding this lying cheating con traitor trump.

But trump will likely appeal , appeal , appeal first to try to avoid the LAW .

[scook]

Well, you’re at least consistent in your ignorance, blather and personal attacks.

[bgreene]

Well, you’re at least consistent in your ignorance, blather and personal attacks.

Stop crying and posting just to complain scookie.
Don’t worry , the lying cheating con traitor trump is all lawyered up ….lots of lawyers to continue delaying that our laws apply to him too.

[bgreene]

Trump had previously boasted “ if you’re innocent why plead the 5th “
Let’s see what he does now that HE has to testify under oath.
First he’ll likely appeal with his army of high paid lawyers ……then we’ll see

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/feb/18/first-thing-trump-and-two-eldest-children-must-testify-in-case

[Destroyer]

Trump had previously boasted “ if you’re innocent why plead the 5th “
Let’s see what he does now that HE has to testify under oath.
First he’ll likely appeal with his army of high paid lawyers ……then we’ll see

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/feb/18/first-thing-trump-and-two-eldest-children-must-testify-in-case

Has President Trump been actually accused of anything or is this just more of your stupid biased posting Greene? Hoping that Trump will eventually be accused. You have him accused, tried, found guilty and sentenced already..... But of course you will not admit that you are in the least biased. You just print truth and facts (as only you see them) so according to you he must be guilty. Whatta maroon.

https://tenor.com/view/bugs-bunny-gif-21845835

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[bgreene]

Has President Trump been actually accused of anything or is this just more of your stupid biased posting Greene? Hoping that Trump will eventually be accused. You have him accused, tried, found guilty and sentenced already..... But of course you will not admit that you are in the least biased. You just print truth and facts (as only you see them) so according to you he must be guilty. Whatta maroon.

https://tenor.com/view/bugs-bunny-gif-21845835

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“ Stupid biased posts says destroyer “
Answer is: Trumps been accused of many, many things from rape to business fraud .