Covid and so called freedom

[bgreene]

I agree with Arnold

https://www.sacbee.com/news/coronavirus/article253437749.html

[Pipe_Dream]

I'm not surprised.

By the way, don't we already have a 4 page thread about the Wuhan China virus?

[charlie_the_tuna]

So you believe in freedom of choice as long as we choose what you decide?!? We’re free to choose to be vaccinated even if we don’t want to?!?

[bgreene]

Our military is getting mandatory COVID vaccines.
Reason - wide spread illness in our military would threaten our National Security.

But you go ahead Charlie - you do what you want never mind doing the right thing.
As you stated - you don’t give a F what world you leave behind.

[charlie_the_tuna]

So you believe in freedom of choice only if it’s what you choose?
Answer the question.

[bgreene]

So you believe in freedom of choice only if it’s what you choose?
Answer the question.

There are all kinds of restrictions and laws that you live with every day Charlie .
From speed limits to restricted areas all with the intention of safety.

Masks at this time are a matter of safety and even now stretching to national security .
Mandates to wear a mask in some areas are no different than other safety related regulations.
So I willingly abide because I realize its not all about me its about doing the right thing.

[kheid]

There are all kinds of restrictions and laws that you live with every day Charlie .
From speed limits to restricted areas all with the intention of safety.

Masks at this time are a matter of safety and even now stretching to national security .
Mandates to wear a mask in some areas are no different than other safety related regulations.
So I willingly abide because I realize its not all about me its about doing the right thing.

masks dont work...ur dumb

[charlie_the_tuna]

I’m not referring to masks. My job requires them, so I wear one. If I want to go into a store and they require one, I wear one.
I’m talking about the vaccine. I choose not to get it at this time. Are you saying I shouldn’t have a choice?

[bgreene]

[QUOTE=charlie_the_tuna;243225]I’m not referring to masks. My job requires them, so I wear one. If I want to go into a store and they require one, I wear one.
I’m talking about the vaccine. I choose not to get it at this time. Are you saying I shouldn’t have a choice?

Vaccines were mandated when we were kids .
You couldn’t go to early school without proof of vaccines .
So this really isn’t any different.

But now some Americans have politicized this and are crying about their freedoms.
Disgusting . The good of the many outweighs the good of the few.
Greedy, fat, lazy Americans who have forgotten or dont know our history of coming together and doing the right thing for us all.
Now for too many it’s about me - me - me .

The good news is most Americans are coming together on this .
In grocery stores I now see closer to 100 percent mask wearing compared to couple months ago.

Masks also do work .
Let’s say you and another guy aren’t wearing pants and he pisses on you.
You get wet.
Now lets say youre wearing pants and he pisses on you. Your pants get wet, maybe your leg doesn’t.
Now let’s say youre both wearing pants and he pisses - he gets wet and so does his pants but you don’t.
That’s analogue to masks - if we all wore them for X time no more virus transmission.

[bgreene]

Vaccines were mandated when we were all children !

You couldnt go to early school without proof of vaccines .
So this really isnt any different.

But now some Americans have politicized this and are crying about their freedoms.
Disgusting . The good of the many outweighs the good of the few.
Greedy, fat, lazy Americans who have forgotten or dont know our history of coming together and doing the right thing for us all.
Now for too many its about me - me - me .

The good news is most Americans are coming together on this .
In grocery stores I now see closer to 100 percent mask wearing compared to couple months ago.

Masks also do work .
Lets say you and another guy arent wearing pants and he pisses on you.
You get wet.
Now lets say youre wearing pants and he pisses on you. Your pants get wet, maybe your leg doesnt.
Now lets say youre both wearing pants and he pisses - he gets wet and so does his pants but you dont.
Thats analogue to masks - if we all wore them for X time no more virus transmission.

[oteps]

So did u get what you were vaccinated for when you were a child? Its not a vaccine! Just like the flu shot.
If you are going to walk around with another guy without pants I dont want to hear about it. Thats freedom but keep it to yourself.

[bgreene]

So did u get what you were vaccinated for when you were a child? Its not a vaccine! Just like the flu shot.
If you are going to walk around with another guy without pants I dont want to hear about it. Thats freedom but keep it to yourself.


Yeh I knew that analogue would draw response but you get the point.
What ? Yes I got the vaccines as a kid , and yes got my two Moderna COVID shots proudly.
And yes , I’m wearing good quality masks in public places, proudly .
I use the N95 often for top protection too
I’m not selfish , doing my share to protect others and myself .

So go ahead and mock me for it. Poor you and your need for freedom .

[oteps]

Im was asking about the vaccines you got as a kid. U got the polio vac right? Did you stay out of the water after the shot? Did you get polio? How can you compare vaccines we got years ago as a kid that PREVENT illness to an experimental shot that just makes the symptoms less, well atleast thats what they say.
Im not mocking you, YOU are the one that always gets mad if someone tells you what to do. Read your posts. I will get a shot and wear a mask if I feel like it. Now dr greene stop telling us what to do with our bodies.

[charlie_the_tuna]

The vaccines that were mandated when we were kids took years to develop. They were also FDA approved. This took just months and is basically experimental. I choose not to be part of a control group. You’re welcome to do what they tell you.
And with that, I’m done with you. You’re a sheep, but the worst kind.... an idiot sheep. I just got off the phone with fauci. He wants you under your bed until further notice.
IDIOT SHEEP!!!!!!!

[bgreene]

Charlie ..most doctors and epidemiologists confirm the vaccine is extremely useful.

Hospitals are now refilling with those that wont take the vaccine.
Kids now getting it too, and long hauler syndrome a big issue.

But you go on and do your thing .

Of course I could write nasty like you, but I choose not too.

[oteps]

hospitals are filling up with those vaccinated and not. You are a sheep. Think for yourself. Im not saying dont get the vaccine, but its not right for everyone. We still are free to do what we want for now.

[bgreene]

Oteps actually that’s NOT TRUE AND YOURE WRONG.

People who’ve been vaccinated are getting COVID in much smaller numbers AND when break through cases do occur these folks are getting less sick and mostly not requiring hospitalization.

Alabama as example has about the smallest percentage of vaccinations and the hospitals are overflowing.

Maybe check the FACTS before you make claims.

[oteps]

Go hide in the basement and keep watching cnn. You can have my shot too. Ill live my life like normal.

[bgreene]

I’m not hiding at all, and I am living my life, just taking the reasonably proven protective steps for me, family, and all others.

Willful ignorance is surrendering control …..in this case to the virus.