Our American youth feels better now

[bgreene]

Despite living through one of the most politically and racially divisive eras in U.S. history, the youngest of voting-age Americans — especially those of color —appear more hopeful about the country's future than they were four years ago, a new poll released Friday finds.

The Harvard Youth Poll of 2,513 Americans between the ages of 18 and 29 conducted from March 9 to March 22, found them expressing significantly more optimism than in the months after Donald Trump became president.

[THEFERMANATOR]

:you:

[bgreene]

So nice not hearing Trump whine complain insult and blame every day .

Bad example Trump for American kids .

Remember Trump saying another candidates wife too ugly to be First Lady etc .
Oh thats example for kids to follow. Loser.

[Blue_Runner]

Our youth needs to be more concerned with economic and foreign policy, including immigration policy, rather than petty insults. We need to remember the "Sticks and Stones" saying.

Higher taxes, open borders, massive spending packages. Now there is something that can actually hurt!

[oteps]

I dont believe the polls. You ever been asked to be in one? Most of the youth that age that I know either are still living at home without a job or in a dead end job or trying to figure out how to pay for the thousands of dollars they just spent on college. And most didnt know anything about the what was going on before trump.

[bgreene]

President of the United States of America

A role kids looked up to in large part .....till Trump showed up with his non stop insults to anyone who disagreed about anything he was pushing.

But hes gone now and were back to civility from that office .

[oteps]

I think you need to take some time and calm down and go fishing.

[bgreene]

Thanks for your suggestion ........ I think you should eat some nice barbecue chicken today with potatoes spinach and a beer .

Good that we swap suggestions in the spirit of the V boat community

[Destroyer]

Troll alert. Time to run up the bull$hit flag. :bsflag:

[bgreene]

Troll alert. Time to run up the bull$hit flag. :bsflag:

Wrong again Destroyer because the BS flag was taken down after we voted the big orange man BS er out !!!

[Destroyer]

Wrong again Destroyer because the BS flag was taken down after we voted the big orange man BS er out !!!


:you:

[bgreene]

:you:

You know .......the moron Trump who said:
1. We have the virus totally under control
2. Then he said the virus would just go away like magic
3. He later told reporter Bob Woodward on recorded line that he knew the virus was very bad all along . So once again Trump lied.

[Destroyer]

You know .......the moron Trump who said:
1. We have the virus totally under control
2. Then he said the virus would just go away like magic
3. He later told reporter Bob Woodward on recorded line that he knew the virus was very bad all along . So once again Trump lied.


:you:

[bgreene]

:you:

Destroyer .....over 570,000 dead Americans their families so hurt and countless with whats being called long haulers COVID illness isnt funny. People died following Trumps no mask nonsense and misleading information

[Pipe_Dream]

Really, who wouldn't be optimistic?

https://youtu.be/A1fT4DwZ7x0

[Pipe_Dream]

Truly inspirational.

https://youtu.be/PTdF6fZ72EY

[bgreene]

Truly inspirational.

https://youtu.be/PTdF6fZ72EY

Really - you ever misplace anything.
Rather a simple honest thing than the lying, cheating, exaggerating , blaming , insulting Con Man Donald Trump. Guess you voted for the traitor Trump.

The minority of voters who voted for Trump because he sounds good.....because he can read a crowd and spout the BS blame they want to hear.... definitely sharp smooth talking cheating con man

[Destroyer]

Destroyer .....over 570,000 dead Americans their families so hurt and countless with whats being called long haulers COVID illness isnt funny. People died following Trumps no mask nonsense and misleading information


GREENIE. What about the countless millions of people worldwide that will live because of President Trump.. or did you just conveniently forget about Operation Warp Speed that fast tracked the development of the vaccine(s) that are saving countless lives not only here but worldwide as we speak??

You spin and smear and distort facts to make them fit your reality, and then you conveniently ignore anything that goes against it. You're somehow trying to blame President Trump for 570K people dying from Covid because President Trump wouldn't wear a mask. Yet you remain strangely silent about Nancy Pelosi on TV, standing in the middle of the street in Chinatown, not wearing a mask, urging everyone to join her while she bad mouthed President Trump for banning people from China, and Chuck Shummer doing virtually the same thing in NYC telling people that there was no need to ban people, that Covid wasn't really dangerous.

You should get down on your knees every night and thank God for sending us a President that took rapid and decisive action to halt Covid 19 instead of a President like Obama that did NOTHING to halt the SARS virus that struck during his tenure.

Did you forget about the 2 hospital ships USS Comfort and USS Mercy that President Trump somehow got equipped and sent to both CA and NYC in less than 14 days even though some experts said it would take a minimum of 6 months? How many people died because of no ventilators? What about his talking to Ford Motor company and forcing them to shut down car lines and start making ventilators for all the hospitals because there weren't enough (because the Obama administration used our national stockpile for SARS and then never replaced them)? HUH? What about those life saving little details. or the hundreds of others that we will probably never know about... and you sit there and deride him for not wearing a mask and falsely accuse him of causing 570,000 American deaths?

.

[Destroyer]

Really, who wouldn't be optimistic?

https://youtu.be/A1fT4DwZ7x0


:clap: Love it

[Destroyer]

Really, who wouldn't be optimistic?

https://youtu.be/A1fT4DwZ7x0


:haha: https://youtu.be/A1fT4DwZ7x0 :you:

[bgreene]

Destroyer - you love if a guy trips but you dont care that Trumps been a traitor, cheat, con man loser.

And you beg me for links to prove which I provide for you and then you applaud the childish nonsense .

Well fortunately America survived Trump his next likely destination prison.

[Pipe_Dream]

I've come around to supporting crazy Uncle Joe since he made this announcement.

https://youtu.be/umthr_4hwpM

[bgreene]

I've come around to supporting crazy Uncle Joe since he made this announcement.

https://youtu.be/umthr_4hwpM

Hey - some love a lying cheating BSing traitor but most Americans didnt so we dumped trump

[Pipe_Dream]

Hey - some love a lying cheating BSing traitor but most Americans didnt so we dumped trump

TRUNALIMUNUMAPRZURE!
~ Joe Biden

:nut:

[Destroyer]

TRUNALIMUNUMAPRZURE!
~ Joe Biden

:nut:




Umm...ya... what you said. :you:

[Destroyer]

I've come around to supporting crazy Uncle Joe since he made this announcement.

https://youtu.be/umthr_4hwpM


Damn.. I think I just might vote for him too. :head:

[Destroyer]

Destroyer - you love if a guy trips but you don't care that Trumps been a traitor, cheat, con man, loser.

Not sure what you mean by "if a guy trips". Explain please. Of course I care. Whoever it was I hope they weren't hurt.

Trump was never a Traitor. What's your proof for that? The Dems wasted 32+ million taxpayer dollars, 18 top lawyers and 3 years of time in the Mueller independent prosecutor investigation trying to prove it and came up with nothing, so I'd be very interested to know what your sources are that prove he was a Traitor. Ditto for cheat, con man and loser. Where is your proof? You hurl these names around like they are just words, but words have meanings. I'd be hard pressed to label anyone that's a billionaire as a "loser".


And you beg me for links to prove which I provide for you and then you applaud the childish nonsense .

You provided one link, it didn't answer the question that was asked, and I pointed that out. Do you think that I don't read links that are provided so you can just provide whatever you think looks good? I have no idea what you mean by "applaud the childish nonsense". Explain please.

Well fortunately America survived Trump. his next likely destination prison.

Naaaa.... Actually, there's a good chance that his next likely destination will be the White House in 2024 (and again in 2028) I think that 2016-2020 was just round one. In fact, he might be able to run for a third term in 2028. I think that Obama can run for a third term again also. I am NOT a lawyer, so I'm not sure on the third term status, but Trump most definitely can run again in 2024.

Anyway, I'm finished with these discussions for a while. Say whatever nonsense you want. It's useless debating you because you either won't acknowledge truth or you are deliberately trolling this thread trying to get people upset. Either way, I'm not playing your game anymore.



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[THEFERMANATOR]

Not sure what you mean by "if a guy trips". Explain please. Of course I care. Whoever it was I hope they weren't hurt.

Trump was never a Traitor. What's your proof for that? The Dems wasted 32+ million taxpayer dollars, 18 top lawyers and 3 years of time in the Mueller independent prosecutor investigation trying to prove it and came up with nothing, so I'd be very interested to know what your sources are that prove he was a Traitor. Ditto for cheat, con man and loser. Where is your proof? You hurl these names around like they are just words, but words have meanings. I'd be hard pressed to label anyone that's a billionaire as a "loser".




You provided one link, it didn't answer the question that was asked, and I pointed that out. Do you think that I don't read links that are provided so you can just provide whatever you think looks good? I have no idea what you mean by "applaud the childish nonsense". Explain please.



Naaaa.... Actually, there's a good chance that his next likely destination will be the White House in 2024 (and again in 2028) I think that 2016-2020 was just round one. In fact, he might be able to run for a third term in 2028. I think that Obama can run for a third term again also. I am NOT a lawyer, so I'm not sure on the third term status, but Trump most definitely can run again in 2024.

Anyway, I'm finished with these discussions for a while. Say whatever nonsense you want. It's useless debating you because you either won't acknowledge truth or you are deliberately trolling this thread trying to get people upset. Either way, I'm not playing your game anymore.



.
DING DING DING DING, winner winner chicken dinner. We call it the pigeon effect, no matter what happens, they come in, crap all over, and say they won.

[bgreene]

The only thing Trumps likely to win is record of being the one term President that goes to jail .

You aware of how many crimes hes facing .

Trump likes the little people to pay taxes but not him

[Pipe_Dream]

The only thing Trumps likely to win is record of being the one term President that goes to jail .

This is silly. Give me odds.

You aware of how many crimes hes facing.

Pray tell, name them.

Trump likes the little people to pay taxes but not him

Is that why he signed into law a tax cut for the middle class?

September 29, 2020
The New York Times this week reported (https://www.breitbart.com/economy/2020/09/28/carney-the-new-york-times-attack-on-trumps-financial-acumen-is-nonsense/) that Trump paid tens of millions of dollars, amounting to at least $66 milllion, in taxes since 2000.
In taxes in seven of the years of tax returns the paper looked at Trump had tax billions in the millions thanks to the alternative minimum tax.
“Mr. Trump paid alternative minimum tax in seven years between 2000 and 2017 — a total of $24.3 million, excluding refunds he received after filing. For 2015, he paid $641,931, his first payment of any federal income tax since 2010,” the New York Times reported (https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/09/27/us/donald-trump-taxes.html).
In Trump’s first two years in office, he filed for extensions for taxes on the prior years tax filing and paid estimated taxes on those. For 2016, he paid $1 million, according to the New York Times. The following year, Trump paid $4.2 million when he filed for an extension.
When Trump eventually filed his tax returns for those years, he said his tax liability should have been $750. In other words, Trump was saying he overpaid his taxes. The Times said that Trump was able to reduce his liability by using up tax credits he had earned in connection with the renovation of the Old Post Office in Washington, D.C.
The Times story also says that Trump did not get a refund for the overpayment. He just asked for credits that could be used to reduce future tax bills.
In some earlier years, Trump paid even more in taxes. According to the New York Times, Trump paid $13.3 million in 2008. In 2005 and 2006, he paid a total of $56.9 million.

How much have you paid?

[bgreene]

Masterpiece of data but keep in mind ....


Problem for Trump on taxes is that he tends to overpromise, as hes done about the deficit he said hed eliminate but greatly increased.

While running for president in 2015, he told Bloomberg he would cut taxes on the middle class but raises them on himself and other rich people: "That's right. That's right. I'm OK with it he said. You've seen my statements, I do very well, I don't mind paying some taxes. That, of course, is not the way things turned out even setting aside the fact that Trump used accounting maneuvers to lower his own federal income taxes in 2017 to $750, according to documents obtained by the New York Times. Hes one slick talker for sure.

Trumps facing several major law suits regarding tax evasion and thats not my opinion thats just FACT.

[Pipe_Dream]

That, of course, is not the way things turned out even setting aside the fact that Trump used accounting maneuvers to lower his own federal income taxes in 2017 to $750, according to documents obtained by the New York Times.

"Accounting maneuvers." :you:


Do you know anything about business accounting and how businesses are taxed?

[bgreene]

"Accounting maneuvers." :you:


Do you know anything about business accounting and how businesses are taxed?

I know hes also charged with illegally inflated and deflated property values and may go to jail .
Wonder when Melania dumps him .....before or after the prison sentence ?

[oteps]

Bgreene, do you own a business? Have you ever owned one? How about one that made $ and one that didnt?

[bgreene]

Bgreene, do you own a business? Have you ever owned one? How about one that made $ and one that didnt?

Yes I've owned a business, and yes that's BS as it applies to Trumps tax evasion fraud.

[Destroyer]

DING DING DING DING, winner winner chicken dinner. We call it the pigeon effect, no matter what happens, they come in, crap all over, and say they won.


:haha: Truth Ferm...truth. :you:

[oteps]

What did he do?

[bgreene]

What did he do?

Trump ? Allegedly raped woman in clothing store fitting room.
DNA evidence on dress may be allowed as evidence but so far as I know its currently a defamation law suit.

[Pipe_Dream]

What did he do?

He said mean things on twitter.

[oteps]

Allegedly, accounting maneuvers. HAHA thats gotta be true. Quit beleiving everything you read in fake news. read a little on joe and kamalla.

[bgreene]

Allegedly, accounting maneuvers. HAHA thats gotta be true. Quit beleiving everything you read in fake news. read a little on joe and kamalla.

Typical Trump supporter - either ignore the facts or pretend its fake news.
Fake news .....Trumps invented phrase to scam America .
Then his spokes woman Kelly Anne Conway came up with a new spin and referred to alternative facts.......well guess what that was more BS because theres only truth as fact

[Pipe_Dream]

Hey now, this thread is supposed to be about making the youth feel better

https://twitter.com/i/status/1389653460136701960

That oughtta do it.

[bgreene]

Allegedly, accounting maneuvers. HAHA thats gotta be true. Quit beleiving everything you read in fake news. read a little on joe and kamalla.

Typical Trump supporter - either ignore the facts or pretend its fake news.
Fake news .....Trumps invented phrase to scam America .
Then his spokes woman Kelly Anne Conway came up with a new spin and referred to alternative facts.......well guess what that was more BS because theres only truth as fact

[Pipe_Dream]

More really good feelz

https://twitter.com/tomselliott/status/1390015702615138310

but wait, there's more!

https://twitter.com/i/status/1390018381085085704

[oteps]

Typical Trump supporter - either ignore the facts or pretend its fake news.
Fake news .....Trumps invented phrase to scam America .
Then his spokes woman Kelly Anne Conway came up with a new spin and referred to alternative facts.......well guess what that was more BS because theres only truth as fact

You havent given any facts yet.

[bgreene]

Yeh ok .....dream on

[oteps]

where are the facts?

[THEFERMANATOR]

where are the facts?

He has none. So far all he has done is come in and spout off his line, OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN crapping on the board saying he's won, but only posted a few OPINION pieces to back it up.

[Pipe_Dream]

Congratulations President Biden - you have achieved the progressive utopia. At least 7.4 million job openings but only 266,000 people got a job last month.

[bgreene]

Wheres the facts ??? Wha wha wha so much whining by those that believe Trumps BS.

Watch the video of Capitol Insurrection and look up what Trump was doing at the same time .
Trump the traitor

[steplift20]

I was reading the dialog going back and fourth and no matter what you prove to bgreene he will never change his opinion about president Donald Trump . We were blessed with president Trump and yes they stole the election , but president Trump will be back but unfortunately the damage is bring done by this guy and the squad , bgreene get your facts right and you can like crooked Hillary,sleepy Joe and his son that's fine but don't tell us we are wrong. Look at the economy , everthing is going up,the country is in turmoil everything is upside down. If I could reach out to president Donald Trump I would ask him not to run again, he's a good man and doesn't need the BS we need him,our country needs him and the world especially Israel needs him. To show you how we are differant sleepyhead Joe is our fake president and I will stand beside him cause he is the president but anti trumpers would never stand with trump , that's the differance,

[bgreene]

I was reading the dialog going back and fourth and no matter what you prove to bgreene he will never change his opinion about president Donald Trump . We were blessed with president Trump and yes they stole the election , but president Trump will be back but unfortunately the damage is bring done by this guy and the squad , bgreene get your facts right and you can like crooked Hillary,sleepy Joe and his son that's fine but don't tell us we are wrong. Look at the economy , everthing is going up,the country is in turmoil everything is upside down. If I could reach out to president Donald Trump I would ask him not to run again, he's a good man and doesn't need the BS we need him,our country needs him and the world especially Israel needs him. To show you how we are differant sleepyhead Joe is our fake president and I will stand beside him cause he is the president but anti trumpers would never stand with trump , that's the differance,

If you think we were blessed with Trump and the election was stolen then I have some proverbial swamp land in Florida to sell to you. Trump stood by while our Capitol was under siege, VP Pence in grave danger, and deaths occurred .

You write I should get my facts right as if you know better .
Well sir I have the FACT correct Trump LOST the election by electoral and the popular vote.
Thats called losing which he did


And with regard to your demand that I not write this or that , I suggest you please calm down.
Ill remind you this is the political forum and I have the same freedom to write as you

[steplift20]

When the presidential election is stolen people are going to be pissed and they let there voices heard, and that's that . President Donald Trump said a pieceful protest he couldn't control what was burning in the belly of the American people who were just stolen out of the elected president,.. Bgreene I really can't believe that you like Biden? I think your just putting us on to see how we will reacte , nobody with any sence can think he is doing a good job , the man can't even carry on a conforsation, the leaders of other country's have to be laughting at us and that's sad cause no matter what we are still the greatest country in the world at least we were when president Trump was at the helm. God bless you and have a great day .

[bgreene]

When the presidential election is stolen people are going to be pissed and they let there voices heard, and that's that . President Donald Trump said a pieceful protest he couldn't control what was burning in the belly of the American people who were just stolen out of the elected president,.. Bgreene I really can't believe that you like Biden? I think your just putting us on to see how we will reacte , nobody with any sence can think he is doing a good job , the man can't even carry on a conforsation, the leaders of other country's have to be laughting at us and that's sad cause no matter what we are still the greatest country in the world at least we were when president Trump was at the helm. God bless you and have a great day .

Step.........seems your very clearly NOT fact driven because Trump LOST the election, and it was counted, recounted, and certified by the same system Trump PRAISED when he won the Presidency !!
Furthermore, he tried to force the state of GA to find votes he didnt get, and the Republican leadership is on recorded line telling Trump.......sorry it WAS counted correctly and you DONT have the votes.

A peaceful demonstration he couldnt control you say ........they showed up with a gallows to hang the Vice President for not cheating for Trump.

You probably dont know this but Biden had a speech impediment since he was a young child a stutter he fought hard to overcome. Yes Im MUCH more comfortable with the honorable man JOE BIDEN whos lived through terrible hardships and keeps working hard than the exaggerating, lying, blaming, slick talking traitor Trump in office.

And so are the 5 million more Americans that voted for Joe Biden than for Orange Man......with his orange make up.......FAKE just like he is.

[David]

Who’s idea was it to mix politics and boats anyway? Definitely not enough room on a v20 for these types of debates someone’s gonna end up in the water.

[bgreene]

Who’s idea was it to mix politics and boats anyway? Definitely not enough room on a v20 for these types of debates someone’s gonna end up in the water.

As the saying goes............if the waters too deep stay out of the pool :)

[Pipe_Dream]

Who’s idea was it to mix politics and boats anyway? Definitely not enough room on a v20 for these types of debates someone’s gonna end up in the water.

David, allow me to translate the above reply for you:

"As I keep saying..........if you don't agree with me 100% and hate Trump stay out of my echo chamber."

[bgreene]

David, allow me to translate the above reply for you:

"As I keep saying..........if you don't agree with me 100% and hate Trump stay out of my echo chamber."

Hey Pipe ....stick with dreaming because what I write doesnt need translating, and what YOU WROTE are not my words.
I speak of FACTS and TRUTH ....always easy to understand and never requires lying.

Also..........your attempt to steer new member DAVID against me is not very nice.

[David]

Well I’m from Maryland and my family has historically been Democrats but these new liberal democrats have went so far left we are now conservative by today’s standards. I do get why someone may not like Trump I get that. But I can’t get behind Biden and democratic politics either. I get along with everyone and deal and do work for people on both sides of the spectrum