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AcogDoc
04-21-2020, 05:52 PM
Hello everyone! Thanks for the add! I got an 86 v20 dual console sport fish about a month ago maybe?? I’ve taken it out on the coast of Southern California and I’ve noticed that when we pull the drain plug a ton of water is coming out. Maybe 5 gallons?? I’m not so sure how accurate that estimation is. Turns out the weak bilge pump that was in there was turning on but not actually pumping. I went out and bought a 1200 because that one was a 450. So we shall see how that works. But my concern is where is the water coming from in the first place?? I e read about thru hulls and deck drains and rub rails I don’t know how to go about attacking any of those tasks and I don’t have a ton of cash. What recommendations do you guys have? Look forward to hearing from you guys!

I do t know who says it but maybe I should just run her? Ha ha

AcogDoc
04-21-2020, 10:56 PM
I replaced the bilge. The bilge hose was plugged up with crap and I got it all cleared out. The new bilge pump works great.
I was curious to know how hard and expensive it is to replace the fuel lines???

And what are the cheapest yet still safe to use thru hulls?? And where do all the thru hulls hoses run to??
I know stainless or bronze is the best. But those things are like $30 bucks a piece. I***8217;m active duty military and don***8217;t make a ton of money

phatdaddy
04-22-2020, 08:39 AM
I m not real sure of the deck layout of the dual console, but I noticed u have a kicker motor. Is the deck wet when ur sitting still? If so water could be leaking in through the seams over the fuel cell and down to the bilge. Probably not but never know

As far as the thru hulls, how many do u have and how many are below the waterline.

Could also be leaking where the scupper drains go thru the hull, those I would spend the money on and bed them in well. Lotta guys use 5200 or Life boat caulk

Post bigger pics of interior layout of deck

Maybe a dually guru will chime in

AcogDoc
04-22-2020, 12:46 PM
I’m not exactly sure how many thru hulls I have I need to check. The kicker is counter balanced by the bait tank in the opposite side. When we are out there not even moving we take no water on the deck.
I’ll try to get more pictures of the lay out. But don’t just her too much she needs some deck paint. This is the only pic I have right now but I’ll grab some more

randlemanboater
04-22-2020, 01:33 PM
There are hoses that run from the deck drains to the through hulls on the sides, I had one fail once, let in a lot of water.

Destroyer
04-22-2020, 02:12 PM
Welcome aboard. Glad to see you finally got permissions to post, etc. It's so much easier to answer your questions here rather than on the other site.

Good that you got the bilge pump installed and the bilge cleaned. I think that's going to solve 90% of your bilge water problems.

Pics are always welcome here, and like the saying goes, are worth a thousand words.

Good looking boat. :clap:

AcogDoc
04-22-2020, 04:13 PM
Thanks for the advice and warm welcome guys. As soon as I get down to the boat I’ll snap some pictures. I store it just down the street at the marina so it shouldn’t be too difficult. When trying to remove soft spots on the deck do you have to remove the entire deck? Like the top from the hull?? Or can you just remove the bad sections and replace them?? I haven’t ever done a project like that so I have no idea how hard it would be...

And once soft spots are removed.... how hard is it to paint the deck? Do you need to use gel coat? Or is it just deck paint. Thanks everyone!

phatdaddy
04-22-2020, 06:44 PM
With that kicker and the baitwell. I would think the scuppers would be under water, so like RMB said check the hoses from the deck drains to the thru hulls.

On the soft deck, i replaced about a third of mine from the top, just cut out the bad and put in a new piece of ply and glassed over it to match surrounding area. I used epoxy, so i had to paint mine. Not that big of a deal, but once u paint, you will at some point have to repaint. If you go back with gelcoat, you need to use polyester resin.

AcogDoc
04-22-2020, 08:01 PM
Are the scuppers the deck drains? Or are the scuppers thru hulls I’m the outside of the boat. I’m still working on figuring out what. Certain things are. Sorry about the dumb questions

phatdaddy
04-22-2020, 08:36 PM
Yes, sorry. The deck drains connect to the thru hulls that let water on the deck drain overboard. On older models the drains went to the bilge and the water had to be pumped overboard. Like I said not real familiar with lay out of a dually, i m assuming you have scuppers, being a mid 80 s boat

On my cuddy, with a 25 gallon Livewell in the stern, its not uncommon to have a half inch of water around your feet while fishing

AcogDoc
04-22-2020, 09:42 PM
Ok. So the deck drains if I remember correctly do in fact drain of to the sides but the more I think about the less certain I am. I’m gonna go take a look at it tomorrow or Friday depending on when my new hose and thru hulls get here. I already got some 4200 and 5200. So we shall see how it goes.

randlemanboater
04-23-2020, 06:35 AM
One thing I did that helped with the water in the floor problem was when I replaced the floor drains I cut off enough of the threaded part that it I could then use the angled fitting on the bottom as the locking nut.

This made the bottom of the floor drain where the hose connected about an inch higher, thus mostly stopping water from coming in from outside in fairly calm conditions. It still came in when rocking and rolling but it improved things.

oteps
04-23-2020, 06:51 PM
There should be a round hatch u can remove on the upright side of the step just infront of the consoles. Look in there at the hoses for the drains. Mine came off once and I got a lot of water in. Plus check your bilge pump tube, they sometimes crack so some water runs back in.
Fuel lines are not bad to do, take the round hatch off above fuel sending unit and look in by the battery. Wiggle the fuel line to make sure it will move. Find something to attach the old and new line and pull it through till u have enough to hook up the new one, sorry I don't know the length.

oteps
04-23-2020, 08:27 PM
I just walked out and looked at my boat, cover still on it. But there are 2 drains on the sides up front. I think other hatch for the second drain is under each console. From what I remember that is the fun one to see in. U have to lay down with your upper body in the console door trying to look into the hatch access. don't forget your flashlight.

AcogDoc
04-24-2020, 10:33 AM
Thanks for the advice everyone. I got some thru hulls changed out with new hoses. I looked at the fuel lines they look Good. But the fuel vent line...... that bad boy doesn’t appear to be attached to anything. Shouldn’t the fuel vent line starch to a vent somewhere?? I gave it a very soft tug and it just appears to go to the bottom of the boat

scook
04-25-2020, 12:09 AM
That could be a really BIG DEAL. On my ‘85 I/O, the vent is close to the fill cap. On mine, if my vent hose was laying in the bottom of the boat, and I hit some waves, it could dump fuel in the bilge and could easily blow up the boat.

Please don’t start up or turn on anything that might spark until it’s resolved.

phatdaddy
04-25-2020, 07:07 AM
Should be a couple of inspection plates over the fuel tank that allow you to see the connection at the tank.

AcogDoc
04-25-2020, 08:34 PM
UPDATE:::::

Water leak resolved. Changed some thru hulls added some sealant on others. Bought a new bilge pump and changed the old bilge pump.

As for the fuel vent hose.. yeah I found the vent up near the fuel area. Got out on the water. Caught some rock fish some calico bass and some sheep head. Great day out there today. Thanks everyone!!