Reflections on the election.....

[Destroyer]

I, and I'm sure others here, certainly have thought about gloating... of rubbing salt into the wounds of the esteemed opposition. But I got to thinking about it. And I realized that, unlike Obama's saying they won, that elections have consequences and then ramming the largest spending bill in history down our throats, this is not a time for gloating, (although we could certainly do the same thing). This is also not a time for protesting (Unlike those idiots and criminals that are rioting in some cities). This is not a time to be a hindrance or obstructive.

This is not even a time for healing... (although that certainly is a constructive plus should it happen along the way).

As I see it, what this is, is a time for everyone.... BOTH sides, to keep an open mind and to try, with all their might, to help their Country. Do it by getting involved. Make constructive suggestions and searching questions. We have a completely unique opportunity to actually DO something about the problems that have been facing our nation for a long time. If you don't like something... speak out. But do it peacefully. Tell you representatives. If you have a constructive suggestion, again, do the same thing. Give voice to your thoughts... both by contacting your Congressman or Senator and by forming or joining like thinking political groups (in your own town, county and state). Let your voices be heard loudly and clearly... but peacefully. Try to keep an open mind.

It really is time to drain the swamp, ...to at least start the process of transforming Washington from the corrupt mess it is now into something that actually works for the people. And if we fail.. if we don't succeed... then it's time to try again, and again, until we finally remove the cancer from the American dream. We MUST work together. And, unfortunately, we WILL be resisted. There are lots of very rich people (elites) on both sides of the aisle that are very happy to keep things as they are so they can rule us. They take our money and give us little if anything in return, while they live fat and happy, leeching off of us. (A perfect example is Mitch McConnell (R) [Senate Majority Leader] who, as soon as he heard about Pres. Trump's plan to try and impose term limits on Congress and the Senate, said that it was not in his plans to bring it up for a vote). That's the kind of resistance that we will face, and that's the kind of resistance (from BOTH sides) that we must work to eventually overcome and eliminate if we are really serious about taking back our Government from this multi-headed corrupt viper that it is now.

Truly, I wish that I was more skilled in writing. I write from the heart, but I don't have the ability to turn a phrase as well as some other people here on this site and elsewhere. So just hear my words and remember the quote from President Obama. "Elections have consequences". For once, "We, the People".....We may actually have the opportunity to effect change. Keep an open mind, bury the hate, lets work together to try and reshape our Country back into the greatness it once was.

[Hedge]

Well said Destroyer.

[bradford]

Agree, well said. This country is great due to it's location, resources, and scarifices of those who came before. It could be a whole lot better if we could trim the fat and dead weight. We'll see, I hope for the best, but if the "swamp" does get drained we'll be seeing a lot of ugly creatures with which we will have to deal.

[mawshj]

no one will vote their job away, the only way to get this is to make it start now ,all people who are now in can stay in until they die or are voted out, anyone voted in from now on has a 2 term limit, this will take 50 years to be fully in force but we must do it

[Destroyer]

no one will vote their job away, the only way to get this is to make it start now ,all people who are now in can stay in until they die or are voted out, anyone voted in from now on has a 2 term limit, this will take 50 years to be fully in force but we must do it

Well, it's not a bad idea. Just vote the person out the next cycle and you have a new guy with term limits imposed. You could drain the swamp in 12 years.

Personally, since we're talking about wishes rather than reality, I'd love to see a law that makes every member of congress required to have the same health coverage as whatever they pass and impose on the rest of the population... no more sweet deals just for them... additionally I want to see it required that they serve a minimum of 20 years before they get full retirement benefits... just like the rest of us. (For anyone that doesn't know, if you are elected to Congress, you get full pay for the rest of your life, even if you only serve one term). These thieves known as Congressmen and Senators have stolen from the American public for too long. They vote themselves their salaries, retirement benefits, health care, etc. It's like the fox guarding the hen-house. There really needs to be an agency, NOT made up of ex-congressmen, that determines the pay scales for congress, not the congressmen themselves.

[Pipe_Dream]

Personally, since we're talking about wishes rather than reality, I'd love to see a law that makes every member of congress required to have the same health coverage as whatever they pass and impose on the rest of the population... no more sweet deals just for them... additionally I want to see it required that they serve a minimum of 20 years before they get full retirement benefits... just like the rest of us. (For anyone that doesn't know, if you are elected to Congress, you get full pay for the rest of your life, even if you only serve one term). These thieves known as Congressmen and Senators have stolen from the American public for too long. They vote themselves their salaries, retirement benefits, health care, etc. It's like the fox guarding the hen-house. There really needs to be an agency, NOT made up of ex-congressmen, that determines the pay scales for congress, not the congressmen themselves.

Hear! Hear!

[steplift20]

I would love to here the don say to Obama and crooked hillary yOUR FIRED

[Destroyer]

I would love to here the don say to Obama and crooked Hillary YOUR FIRED

LOL :you: Amen brother, amen!

[DiverDux]

Big sigh of relief. As Destroyer wrote... No time for gloating. Let's all work together, ut our differences aside and take care of the U.S.A. and her citizens by making the changes necessary to put us back on the map! Full speed ahead.

[wellcraftv20step]

It was such a good feeling to hear of Donald Trump speaking with Carrier yesterday, This is certainly a big step toward rebuilding our country back to what it once was. Absolutely feeling like we're on the rite track

[Destroyer]

It was such a good feeling to hear of Donald Trump speaking with Carrier yesterday, This is certainly a big step toward rebuilding our country back to what it once was. Absolutely feeling like we're on the rite track

Totally agree John.... It's just one small step, but it shows that he's serious about keeping his promises. One small step for our Country, one large step for the Carrier workers. :clap:

[bgreene]

Draining the swamp ? More like creating a swamp.

I believe Trump appointed more people into positions that wound up being indicted of crimes than any other President

[Pipe_Dream]

"You believe what you wanna believe."

~ Tom Petty

or in the alternative,

"...let it go."

~ Ron White

[bgreene]

"You believe what you wanna believe."

~ Tom Petty

or in the alternative,

"...let it go."

~ Ron White

Not dreaming.........check the FACTS of what I wrote - Trump's LONG list of his appointees that wound up indicted of committing all sort of serious crimes.
FACTS.......not conspiratorial nonsense and lies.
Just google it.

[Destroyer]

Not dreaming.........check the FACTS of what I wrote - Trump's LONG list of his appointees that wound up indicted of committing all sort of serious crimes.
FACTS.......not conspiratorial nonsense and lies.
Just google it.


You just can't let it go can you Greenie? This is a 5 years old post. Your "facts" are, (at best) dubious... but I'm willing to be convinced... so go ahead and post them. I'll wait.

[bgreene]

You just can't let it go can you Greenie? This is a 5 years old post. Your "facts" are, (at best) dubious... but I'm willing to be convinced... so go ahead and post them. I'll wait.


Those who ignore the past are condemned to repeat it
We must NEVER forget how close we came to losing our democracy!

Why Trump supporters so often ask others for Facts ?
Just google what I stated its FACT.

Maybe same reason why Trump got the bigger rally crowds.

Much larger percentage of Dems knew the facts about this virus - paid attention to
the experts AVOIDED CROWD GATHERING voted by mail and wearing masks .

Meanwhile Trump and wife oh so very quietly got his vaccine in January.
What a creep

[Destroyer]

LOLOLOLOL Whatever. Believe what you want. You're like every other Trump hater. You'll never understand how much good Trump has done for this Country already, so go ahead and cheer on your champion (Biden) as the Dems lead us into more and more debt. The price of gas is already up almost a dollar since he took office. They LIE through their teeth and rubes believe them.

Look at just some of Obama's stellar achievements in the field of "Climate Change"..
A123 - $249 million
Aboun Solar - $400 Million
Beacon Power - $450 Million
Ener1 - $118 Million
Solyndra - $535 million
Fiskar Automotive - $529 million
Nevada Geothermal - $98 Million

All of them went Bankrupt and left the US holding the bill.

Now they said they wanted 3 TRILLION dollars for "infrastructure" (LIES) and then we find out that less than 7% is for roads and bridges, and only a total of $621 Billion is actually marked for infrastructure... the rest is for Green new deal bull$hit under the moniker of the "American Jobs Plan". (Doesn't that sound just ever so wonderful? Who could not want jobs for Americans?) But of course it really has nothing to do with jobs for Americans.. it's all about funneling money to cronies the same way that Obama did. (And today he (Biden) announced that he wants another 1.8 Trillion on top of that). He expects to pay for all this $hit with new and higher taxes on companies and industries. But even morons should know that companies do not pay taxes...they simply pass on the costs of business to the consumers. So everything is going to go up in cost. Hang on to your seatbelt cause inflation is about to hit us all....hard...right in the wallet!! But that's ok, cause he's such a nice man, who would never, ever lie to us. Right? (I could point out how much of a racist Biden is, even eulogizing a KKK organizer at his funeral, but I'll save that for another discussion). I'd laugh harder at anyone that believes this crap for believing all their bull$hit, except that it's not a laughing matter. We're looking at the beginning of the end of the United States as we know it, and all people with TDS can do is point to Trump, tell us orange man bad and point out he got a vaccine faster than they did. What a joke.

[bgreene]

See below

[bgreene]

Destroyer ........you mention debt

During his 2016 presidential campaign Trump PROMISED he would eliminate the nation’s debt in eight years.

Instead, his budget estimates showed that he would actually add at least $8.3 trillion, increasing debt to $28.5 trillion by 2025. In reality under Trump national debt reached that figure even sooner.

FACT When Trump took office in January 2017, the national debt stood at $19.9 trillion.
By October 2020, the national debt reached a new high of $27 trillion. That's an increase of almost 36% in less than four years

FACTS matter

[Destroyer]

Destroyer ........you mention debt

During his 2016 presidential campaign Trump PROMISED he would eliminate the nation’s debt in eight years.

Instead, his budget estimates showed that he would actually add at least $8.3 trillion, increasing debt to $28.5 trillion by 2025. In reality under Trump national debt reached that figure even sooner.

FACT When Trump took office in January 2017, the national debt stood at $19.9 trillion.
By October 2020, the national debt reached a new high of $27 trillion. That's an increase of almost 36% in less than four years

FACTS matter


If Biden gets his way, here's another "fact". In his first 100 days in office Biden has proposed increases (under the guise of "infrastructure) of 4.8 Trillion dollars. As a timeline, that's way more than the 20 Trillion that Obama saddled us with during his first term, and way more than what Trump saddled us with during his first 100 days in office. Facts matter

Here's another fact. Most of the debt that Trump precided over was caused by a democrat controlled Congress. LOLOL

[bgreene]

If Biden gets his way, here's another "fact". In his first 100 days in office Biden has proposed increases (under the guise of "infrastructure) of 4.8 Trillion dollars. As a timeline, that's way more than the 20 Trillion that Obama saddled us with during his first term, and way more than what Trump saddled us with during his first 100 days in office. Facts matter

Here's another fact. Most of the debt that Trump precided over was caused by a democrat controlled Congress. LOLOL

DESTROYER .......Obama inherited the GEORGE BUSH fiasco ......trillion dollar spend going after the wrong target after the 911 attack. Obamas stimulus plan cost money but resulted in the economic recovery that Trump inherited . FACT look it up .

You put quotes around my word fact as if its not true because youre a Trump supporter.
Thats what Trump did.........label things he didnt like as fake news.
His spokes person Kelly Conway even made up the term alternative facts .
There is no such thing .

Yes FACTS matter and Trump is a lying cheating con man traitor who may be in jail 2024 rather than running for office again. In jail for tax fraud business fraud and other crimes . As a traitor he should be in jail for high crimes against our nation.

[Destroyer]

Greenie, I'm sorry but I've had enough. It took me a while to realize that you're just trolling these forums looking for an argument. Here you even went back to a post that's 5 years old looking for a fight. 5 years!! What did you do, make a search of posts here just so you could find something to argue about? No matter what I or anyone else says you will just poo-poo it, add more useless comments and dribble about how bad orange man was. You're a troll with severe TDS and I should have seen it earlier. Debating you is useless, so go right ahead and spout all your distorted, useless facts and false information. You wouldn't know the truth if it bit you in the A$$. I'm done talking to you.
Have a nice day.

[bgreene]

Greenie, I'm sorry but I've had enough. It took me a while to realize that you're just trolling these forums looking for an argument. Here you even went back to a post that's 5 years old looking for a fight. 5 years!! What did you do, make a search of posts here just so you could find something to argue about? No matter what I or anyone else says you will just poo-poo it, add more useless comments and dribble about how bad orange man was. You're a troll with severe TDS and I should have seen it earlier. Debating you is useless, so go right ahead and spout all your distorted, useless facts and false information. You wouldn't know the truth if it bit you in the A$$. I'm done talking to you.
Have a nice day.

TRUMPERS typically turn to anger and insults rather than deal with the truth.
I post FACTS not BS. BS is a waste of time .
This is the Political Forum and there are no rules specific to date of last reply.

You refer to the FACTS as useless.
I believe the facts are critically important to our great country’s history and future.

[Destroyer]

TRUMPERS typically turn to anger and insults rather than deal with the truth.
I post FACTS not BS. BS is a waste of time .
This is the Political Forum and there are no rules specific to date of last reply.
You refer to the FACTS as useless.
I believe the facts are critically important to our great country***8217;s history and future.

I said I was done talking to you, but you have made accusations about me that are not true, so I must respond.
First, no anger is present on my side. I'm not insulting anyone. I didn't use derogatory words like dumb, idiotic, stupid, snowflake, etc. The only thing I did was post facts. I used labels, well established for years now in internet jargon, to describe a particular type of person, . Troll is a descriptive adjective identifying a particular type of person. TDS is the same thing. These are not derogatory name calling, just identifiers.


I deal with truth on a daily basis, in everything I say and do.

The truth is I never said that facts were useless. Please show me where I said that. And yes, I agree with you that real facts, not the made up, spun lies that the left wing controlled media puts out, are critically important to our Country's history and future. (What a shame the Dem's don't).

So I have a question for you and all Dems.

I'm just so curious to know!

Last year, when Conservatives worried that a Biden victory would result in massive changes to tilt the playing field in favor of a perpetual Democrat majority***8212;specifically:
1) Packing the Supreme Court (to allow Democrats to fill 4 new positions and assure victory for their agenda, regardless of Constitutional merit)
2) Creating a New Democrat-majority state out of Washington DC (rather than allowing the residential areas of the district to revert to the state of MD.)
3) Ending the filibuster, so that the senate no longer is structured to ensure that 60% must agree to pass contentious laws.

When we fretted about this last fall we were assured that Biden was the ultimate middle-of-the-road guy, a reasonable correction to the divisive Trump.

Well, here we are, and all of the aforementioned items are on the agenda. Do not expect any to be vetoed by Biden.

My question(s) to you is: were you simply repeating talking points? Did you want this all along, and just pretended to be in favor of incremental changes that are supported by the majority?

I mean, I can't imagine that you would think that it would have been fine for the GOP to enlarge the court during the Trump administration. So, my conclusion is that this is a power grab, necessary to allow the enactment of laws that would never pass through justices that actually enforce the
Constitution (which statehood for DC does not permit)

If I sound a bit overwrought, it's just that it seems to me to be the end of our 2-party system. Or am I somehow wrong and we weren't lied to?

[bgreene]

DESTROYER .....I don’t pretend anything in these political posts .

Supreme Court ....
Do you remember when Republicans BLOCKED Obama’s very solid pick Merritt Garland.
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnells BS excuse was it was too close to the election.
Total BS and no such law supported that refusal.

Then two months before this Presidential election after Ginsberg died , McConnell did the total reverse and said the Senate would do a quick vote to allow Trumps pick for the Supreme Court.

FYI .....the Supreme Court is not limited to 9 members and the number has varied through our history .

This thread being REFLECTIONS ON ELECTION ......should be a confirmation of Trump the traitor. He tried to steal a fair election, he tried to force even Republican state leaders to cheat on the election ( he’s on tape doing so ) and he purposefully allowed attack on our Capitol, leaders and Vice President .

Reflection on Election ?
How close we came to becoming a DICTATORSHIP under Trump.
May he spend the rest of his lying cheating life in our Super Max Prison.

[Pipe_Dream]

How close we came to becoming a DICTATORSHIP under Trump.
May he spend the rest of his lying cheating life in our Super Max Prison.

:you:

Give it a rest.

[Blue_Runner]

Real questions that I have about the current administration:

Does anyone think the Biden tax plan is going to help the economy? How about the capital gains tax increase?

Does anyone think the Biden tax plan will boost the middle class, boost small businesses and lead to more jobs?

If so, I'd love to hear how because to me it sounds like a real job/economy killer.

We had to pay state taxes and came close to having to pay federal this year. We pay in the max amount and also have other deductions. This is the first time ever having to pay either state or federal. Our accountant says it is going to get much worse. (We do not make anywhere close to 400K in case you are wondering).

[Destroyer]

DESTROYER .....I don’t pretend anything in these political posts .

Supreme Court ....
Do you remember when Republicans BLOCKED Obama’s very solid pick Merritt Garland.
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnells BS excuse was it was too close to the election.
Total BS and no such law supported that refusal.


True, but it didn't change the number of justices, just who they were. Your example is poor at best because it doesn't answer the question that was asked, it just points to something totally different, as though that was somehow relevant.


Then two months before this Presidential election after Ginsberg died , McConnell did the total reverse and said the Senate would do a quick vote to allow Trumps pick for the Supreme Court.

FYI .....the Supreme Court is not limited to 9 members and the number has varied through our history .


A little history lesson for you. For over 150 YEARS the number of seats on the supreme court has stood at 9 seats. Originally the number was 6 back in the 1700's but as the Country grew more seats were added until we reached the present number in 1869. In 1937 Roosevelt tried to pack the court so he could get his New Deal (Hmmm.... where have I heard that phrase before?) laws passed but was ultimately defeated in his plan. While you are correct that the number of seats has varied it has NEVER been more than 9 seats total. (In fact, Biden himself, back in 1983, called the idea of packing the court a "boneheaded idea" A "terrible, terrible" plan).


This thread being REFLECTIONS ON ELECTION ......should be a confirmation of Trump the traitor. He tried to steal a fair election, he tried to force even Republican state leaders to cheat on the election ( he’s on tape doing so ) and he purposefully allowed attack on our Capitol, leaders and Vice President .


Really? Your source please. What is your proof that he tried to force leaders to cheat? Be specific. He is, however, on tape and video telling his supporters, during the Capitol protest, to be peaceful, so where is your proof that he allowed an attack on our Capital? https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/532946-trump-tells-supporters-to-be-peaceful-after-protesters-storm-capitol


Reflection on Election ?
How close we came to becoming a DICTATORSHIP under Trump.
May he spend the rest of his lying cheating life in our Super Max Prison.


LOL To that remark I can only point to Pipe Dream's comment.

Let me point out that the Dems are in total control of 90% of the media, Social media, the presidency, both houses of Congress and now they want to pack the Supreme Court with yes-men (or women) members that will rubber stamp and pass anything they (the far left Democrats) want. We are closer to a dictatorship now than at any time ever before in the history of our Country. And parrots that just keep repeating the same old Dem talking points without really knowing or understanding how dangerous a time we are living in should shut up.


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[bgreene]

Reflections on the election......this thread title:

Well lets post some FACTS about TRUMP
1. Trump lost the election
2. Trump tried to change the outcome
3. Trump tried to force officials to change the outcome
4. Trump almost got our VP killed and other members of our govt
while he gleefully watched on TV our Capitol being raided and our police beaten.

Sounds like a horror movie about a Democracy in great peril .
It was, and thankfully THE MAJORITY of AMERICANS voted him out !!!!

Trump the traitor X President of the United States.
Mt Rushmore .......nope more like Federal Prison for life

[Destroyer]

Reflections on the election......this thread title:

Well lets post some FACTS about TRUMP
1. Trump lost the election
2. Trump tried to change the outcome
3. Trump tried to force officials to change the outcome
4. Trump almost got our VP killed and other members of our govt
while he gleefully watched on TV our Capitol being raided and our police beaten.

Sounds like a horror movie about a Democracy in great peril .
It was, and thankfully THE MAJORITY of AMERICANS voted him out !!!!

Trump the traitor X President of the United States.
Mt Rushmore .......nope more like Federal Prison for life


You want facts? Trump received MORE votes (75 MILLION) in the last election than ANY person that ever ran for the office. He even received 2 million more than Hillary. He lost because of the electoral collage, which is how it should be. However there was and still remains a large amount of suspicion about certain states he lost due to irregularities in counting of ballots and mail in ballots. Although the lawsuits that followed were thrown out by various courts, 98% of them were thrown out not because they were invalid (in fact several judges said they had merit and that he probably would have won them) They were thrown out because the statue of limitations had expired. So if you call filing lawsuits "trying to change the election" you're exactly right.


I'll ask you again, where is your proof that Trump tried to force anyone illegally to change the outcome? Why do you keep dodging the question?


Exactly HOW did Trump almost get our VP killed? You mean in the capitol protest? The only persons killed in the protest were 4 protestors. (Don't tell me the BS about the capitol police officer that was killed after getting hit with an fire extinguisher because that has been proven to be a false narrative. In FACT, the police officer died of 2 massive strokes 2 days after the protest. Several doctors have stated that his death was not connected in any way with the protest. There exists NO video of any capitol police getting beaten, so where is your proof of that lie?



See, like I said... just more untrue talking points with no proof.



LOL Polly want a cracker?




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[bgreene]

DESTROYER ......you say Trump got 75 million votes .
Yes so what Biden got over 80 million votes and won the election.

Trump got around 250 electoral votes Biden got over 300 and won the election.

Even our Supreme Court with Trump appointees refused to engage with Trumps Presidential election nonsense.

But if you believe then its my opinion that you fell for the Trump con game.
Human history has way too many examples of con men that gained great power before losing.

Trump LOST the election by the same fair process that he boasted about in 2016.
Now he faces many, many law suits, which youll likely cry foul about .

[Destroyer]

DESTROYER ......you say Trump got 75 million votes .
Yes so what Biden got over 80 million votes and won the election.

Trump got around 250 electoral votes Biden got over 300 and won the election.

Even our Supreme Court with Trump appointees refused to engage with Trumps Presidential election nonsense.

But if you believe then its my opinion that you fell for the Trump con game.
Human history has way too many examples of con men that gained great power before losing.

Trump LOST the election by the same fair process that he boasted about in 2016.
Now he faces many, many law suits, which youll likely cry foul about .


Since you're so concerned with facts, here's some for you to consider. You're correct that Biden got over 81 million votes, compared to Trumps 75 million. But the interesting thing is Biden only won 477 Counties nationwide. By comparison, Obama won 873, and Trump won 2497. So that makes any intelligent person wonder how it was that Biden got more votes than both Trump or Obama. He only won half the Counties that Obama won, and only one fifth what Trump got. Must be that new math.



I agree that Trump lost the election because of the electoral college count. In fact, look at my previous post where I said that was as it was supposed to be.


But if you really believe that Biden legitimately won the election, despite the numerous irregularities and videos that have been posted all over the internet of boxes of votes suddenly appearing from under a table, despite counting in the middle of the night when no one was around, despite the mail in voting scams, despite the refusal to fact check voters names, despite voter harvesting that has been proven to have occurred then I truly feel sorry for you, because you're going to be blindsided like never before.


We're already paying almost a dollar more for gasoline, and tonight he (Biden) proposed even more spending (up over 6 Trillion). The costs of cars, food and housing is already going through the roof and once the new taxes on companies takes hold you're going to see inflation on everything like never before. Add to that the Russians are sending thousand of troops and equipment to the Ukraine border, the Chinese are doing military exercises next to Taiwan, Iran is going full tilt toward gaining a nuke and we have a porous southern border that has doubled the number of illegals entering the United States since Biden took over. It doesn't take a genius to see the problems we're in. NONE of which happened during Trumps tenure. The rest of the world is watching while Russia and China and Iran are testing Biden. You'd better pray that he gets it right (or learn how to speak Mandarin).



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[bgreene]

DESTROYER .......this thread being reflections on election and youre now responding with ....oh yeh well what about gas prices .

Biden won the election with the counts being recounted and certified.

Trump tried to cheat and force Republicans in GA to find additional votes but they told him on recorded line no sir its been counted again and the vote is accurate . Google this since you may pretend it didnt happen.

Reflections on the Election .........yes how a con man tried to steal our most democratic process of voting. In Trumps own words hes therefore a loser.

[Dana A]

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[Destroyer]

DESTROYER .......this thread being reflections on election and youre now responding with ....oh yeh well what about gas prices



The thread was "Reflections on the election" for 2016, not 2020. Since you went back 4+ years just to troll a thread you should be the last person to comment on what I or anyone else posts. But my gas prices (as well as the other things including the new taxes heading our way are perfectly legitimate since they are the direct result of the 2020 election that you're trolling.



And I notice that you conveniently avoided commenting on how Biden got so many votes while only winning 1/5 the amount of Counties nationwide that Trump did and almost less than 1/2 that Obama won. We're still waiting for you to explain it. Your spin should prove amusing.


Once again I'll say that you are just looking for an argument (trolling) and I've had enough. So go ahead and have the last comment.


Polly want a cracker?




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[bgreene]

DESTROYER ..... youve had enough ......again ?

Its not trolling since this is:
A....the political forum
B....on topic of the thread

Biden won ......Orange Man lost.
And the MAJORITY of Americans are oh so very greatful .

[bgreene]

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/04/opinion/gop-trump-2020-election.html?referringSource=articleShare&fbclid=IwAR1hldsqAzjaMAvJ5beoFXaCxSkw6poymRR-yubTTxNX6St81P1k_n79YfM

GOP now facing issues of candidates pre requisite to LIE about the election result to have a shot. Very bad