Teak oil

[steplift20]

Is there a diferance between reg stain and teak oil

[phatdaddy]

do u mean regular furniture stain like minwax? most of that is a polyeurathane(sp?) based and will not stand up a water environment. just about any oil will work on teak, i used to know people who treated theirs with automatic trans fluid. i like the sikkens by cetol, holds up well in the fl sun and only needs reapplying every 5-6 years.

[inaforty]

Yes there is a difference between stain and oil.

We use teak oil on the swim platform of the Bertram.
We use Epiphanes on the Bertram's flybridge treads and teak around the bulkhead. Epiphanes that we use is varnish.

I believe stain is usually used to color wood to a desired tint and then it sealed with polyurethane or varnish.

The teak oil is used after the teak surface has been cleaned and prepped.
Most companies have a three part system for teak oil etc.

We use Starbrite's teak treatment on the swim platform.

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[steplift20]

Yep I was inferring to mini wax I wasn't sure but I will use teak oil on my cabin door, but you said you heard of people using trans fluid, did you ever here how it comes out or looks, that's interesting, if I use that I would save a lot of money cause I have a lot of trans fluid here.

[bradford]

I'm thinking the teak oil smells better.

[phatdaddy]

i tried tranny oil, bradford's right, it smells bad and gives the teak a dark red "cherry cola" kinda tint. i would not advise it. i have also heard of using tung oil. never have tried it. the thing about just using oil is it will lubricate the wood, but is constantly drying out unless you seal it. if you just apply oil, it will need retouching pretty quick. like inaforty said, for teak that is constantly getting wet (swim platform) oil is the ticket, but for trim & doors oil and sealant will hold up. i have just found the cetol easier to apply and last longer than others.

[steplift20]

Cetol? It's for the cabin door, it's not big. I will try that oil. Do you get it at a marine store or Home Depot has it.

[phatdaddy]

http://www.westmarine.com/buy/sikkens--cetol-marine-wood-finish--P004_128_002_501

this is a link to it, probably find it cheaper somewhere else. you need to get a qt of the finish you want and a qt of the overcoat. i use the gloss. it seems "harder" and holds up better. usually sometime in the spring WM will run a sale with it half price.

not trying to talk you out of varnish, might want to get up with inaforty and see what is involved. the one time i used it, it needed to be redone in a year.

[Striper80]

The teak on my Grady was pretty far gone. I tried oiling it but it didn't help. I wound up sanding it down and using oil from Home Depot, I got about a drain out of it. The next year I oiled it and put 3 coats of helmsman on it.

[Kracker Jack]

Teak oil will actually dry to an extent. Other petroleum based oil such as tranns and things like would get tacky i would think and attract dirt and crap? We pressure wash our teak just enough tip pressure to not "Fur" the wood then let dry then apply oil. We will apply oil 4 or 5 times a year and the teak stays beautiful.

[inaforty]

I do a maintenance coat of Epiphanes once a year. Rub the teak down with fine steel wool and then a tack rag and add another coat of Epiphanes.

The think the Sikken's will last longer. I believe the Sikken's goes on thinner and requires more coats.

After the first cleaning etc the swim platform needs to oil down about 4 times during the summer. Luckily Karen has taken that task. I get to supervise with a ....:beer:

I do the maintenance coat during the winter months. Gives me something to do besides sit in front of the woodstove dreaming of warmer weather.

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[SkunkBoat]

I have flipped flopped between teak oil and varnish. Based on how things weathered, I settled on varnishing the door & dash trim and oiling the hatch rails on the bow and the teak inside the cabin. I got rid of all the teak where fish guts go....

Varnish on door & dash holds up for years but did not hold up out on the bow. Sanding and revarnishing is a pain so I powerwash & oil the slider rails every year. Inside the cuddy, oil lasts years.

don't use trans fluid. That's just stupid...:devil:

[ssiredfish]

Refer to Inaforty's post....thats about right on what you have to do....

I pulled all the teak off the Wellcraft and sanded it down then used the Cetol and followed up with three coats of spar urethane. Took prob 60hrs from start to finish between fine sanding then oiling and then urethane'n and fine sandin in between three coats of the Urethane.....Two years and zero maintenance later(aside from rinse down) I was at the point where I "almost" had to start from scratch again. It WILL require yearly maintenance like Inaforty mentioned. Its beautiful when you keep it up or much less have the time to keep it up but I will make an oath to my Wellcraft Brotherin that I will never have teak again on another boat!!!

[smokeonthewater]

WORD!

So far the only suitable way I've found to deal w teak is fire treatment.... I replace it with ANYTHING else and then burn it..... My choice of hobby is boating, not boat maintenance.

That said, as mentioned it looks great when taken care of and I love seeing other people's fresh woodwork.

[phatdaddy]

guess i'm old school. i like the touch of teak. gives it that "salty" look to me. i have a starboard dash & i miss my teak one.

[inaforty]

I agree phat. I love the look of teak/wood. Nothing like a 13' Whaler that has been well kept or a V 20 with all the teak in good shape
Teak maintenance is an easy project.
I just got done replacing an aluminum fresh water tank that had to be cut up to get it out of the bilge. Fun stuff!

[cfelton]

I use Starbrite Teak oil on my swim ladder and Captains Marine varnish on all the teak trim. Some of my trim hasn't been redone since 06 and still looks good. But my boat stays completely covered up when not in use. Im on my second Attwood boat cover, they usually last about five years before ripping open. I think the sun is wooden finishes worst enemy!

[Destroyer]

I'm in the "love the look of it but it's a pain in the a$$" camp. My 78's got it and it looks great when clean, sanded and then urethaned, but my 21's got none and I like it that way. My boats are for fishing, and anything that keeps me from that pursuit is verboten.

[000's]

I'm with you smoke
teak looks great on someone else's boat, NOT MINE

cant catch anything while I'm at home oiling teak