Removed my deck

[Liam]

So it is time to start the overhaul of my 73 cuddy. I cut out the deck last weekend and found a real interesting set up underneath it.
Although the original construction was pretty shoddy there looks to have been some equally crappy repairs in the past. I have enclosed some pics for your amusement.

The girders are original and do have some roven woving on them here and there,looks like it was thrown on from a distance.

I am a little confused about the main stringer,i know someone has added the stringer closest the keel but is the outer string original or was that added at the same time? Neither has any glass on them.

[Liam]

this is how you do it the right way:oh:

16 penny nails everywhere

[Liam]

nice parquet

[Liam]

here is how you glass in a girder at the wellcraft factory

[Liam]

probably gain a few knots when I remove the couple of hundred pounds of doubled up 2x12 stringers

[GREYWOLF]

:oh: WOW what a mess, I hate hacks . do it wright or dont touch it

[RidgeRunner]

GW- None of our boats would have been built had Wellcraft heeded those words. LOL ! I like solid sawn 2x12 for stringers. You did open up a can of worms didn't you.

Gut check = That moment, right after the Wallet check!

Your demo looks good and you certainly got to the root of a lot of evil, fast.

[bradford]

Mine actually looked pretty good with the exception of the fuel tank compartment with all the foam trapping water and gasoline.

I think it was Skools who said the small squares with the alternating grain actually made the deck stronger.

I would think this would have to be the case vs the ease of just glassing a couple of large sheets of ply. Even if they were getting the ply wood scraps for free I don't think they would be saving.

[Liam]

The foam was remarkably dry,as was the port side stringers. I cut the transom cap off,that needs recoring.I plan to remove the rest of the foam,and clean up a little then pull the motor in the next couple of weeks(depending on weather) and figure out the transom,i know its toast,at least around the outdrive,likely totally at the bottom.

[GREYWOLF]

your going at the project the rite way , take your time slow and steady and keep a photo log of all you do during the rebuild , looks good so far

[Destroyer]

your going at the project the rite way , take your time slow and steady and keep a photo log of all you do during the rebuild , looks good so far

X2 exactly correct. Slow and steady wins the race.

[Liam]

I removed all the foam today,it was pretty wet at the stern,probably due to the deck drains emptying onto it.lol

thanks for all the words of support

[reelapeelin]

Liam you're gonna be really pleased w/the finished boat once you're done...all the work will be well worth it...:clap:

The '86 Cuddy I've got in the For Sale section needs about this same level of work and will be a great boat once it gets this kind of TLC...:sun:


Like Wolfe said, keep the pics coming...looks like a great project to keep up with...

[Liam]

Removed the motor today, it was a breeze. Although the oil pan appears to have quite a few jb weld patches on it. Looks like I will be replacing that. The front motor mount adjustment is seized beyond repair also.
Motor mounts seem to be in plentiful supply on ebay , not too many oil pans around though, seems they are discontinued.
I will add more pics once I get the transom plate out.

[garbubba]

Most of those pans are just truck pans I think. Try taking yours to a junkyard & see if you can find a match.

[Liam]

Most of those pans are just truck pans I think. Try taking yours to a junkyard & see if you can find a match.

Yes they are, A friend of mine may have one for me.

I removed the transom plate yesterday.Remarkably the wood around the key hole was still solid,the transom where the stringers tie in,not so good. There was also a kicker motor on the boat at some point,delaminated there also. Hope to start cutting next weekend,meanwhile I will work on removing 40 years or grease from the tansom plate:laugh:

[cfelton]

Liam, I did almost the same thing to mine except I did'nt pull the cap off. I used all 3/4 marine plywood for my transom and glassed it all back in, even the inside of the keyhole. I built a new motor bed and had to replace a section of the stringers in that area. Used alot of woven roven and about nine gallons of resin. It seems a little heavy in the rear but has held up great. Turned out well, havent had any trouble with it since I did it in 2006. Got some pics around here somewhere, Ill try ta find them.

[Liam]

Liam, I did almost the same thing to mine except I did'nt pull the cap off. I used all 3/4 marine plywood for my transom and glassed it all back in, even the inside of the keyhole. I built a new motor bed and had to replace a section of the stringers in that area. Used alot of woven roven and about nine gallons of resin. It seems a little heavy in the rear but has held up great. Turned out well, havent had any trouble with it since I did it in 2006. Got some pics around here somewhere, Ill try ta find them.

Hi,thanks for the info. I didn't remove the cap either,i just cut out the deck up to the bulkhead,the stringers seem ok towards the front and I just plan to tie into them.
I have checked out your gallery in the past,you have done a great job,i hope mine looks as good some day.
What wood did you use for your fish box covers? Mine are glass and it good shape but yours look pretty classy,how does the finish hold up?

[Liam]

I removed the stringers this morning and the center built up area of the transom. As soon as the snow melts I plan to get the boat off the trailer and remove the rest of the transom but until then I need to keep the stern lifting rings in place.

[Liam]

sorry for not updating along the way,it has been tough finding time to work on the boat.
The stringers and transom are done,just need one more layer of tabbing up the transom side. I have Thursday and Friday off and hope to get the deck in.
I had some epoxy paint left from another project so used that up and freshened it up. Once the deck is in I can finish up the bilge and bilgekote that area.

[Liam]

the deck is all in and ready for glass.
I did away with the step down in the deck area, I felt it was treacherous for the kids.
I re used the floor boxes,that was quite a bit of work to make them fit back in nicely and be create a strong mount.

[steplift20]

sorry to tell you but i think the original work was far better
let me explain
if one part was bad you can take out a square plus the parkay floor( i no i miss spelled that] could have been sanded and you can dance on it with a little polyurathane it would have looked great now its going to look like a boat before a dance floor it makes you think,,,,what were they thinking when they did that to such a great boat

[Destroyer]

the deck is all in and ready for glass.
I did away with the step down in the deck area, I felt it was treacherous for the kids.
I re used the floor boxes,that was quite a bit of work to make them fit back in nicely and be create a strong mount.

Looking great Liam. :clap: :clap:

[spoggy]

the deck is all in and ready for glass.
I did away with the step down in the deck area, I felt it was treacherous for the kids.
I re used the floor boxes,that was quite a bit of work to make them fit back in nicely and be create a strong mount.
Absolutely fantastic work.

[bradford]

Looks great! I hate the step down too, what were they thinking? And Wellcraft isn't the only manufacturer who did them that way.

[Liam]

thanks for all the kind words,
It sure does feel good to be walking on a deck again instead of crawling around in the bottom of the hull.

[SkunkBoat]

I think it was Skools who said the small squares with the alternating grain actually made the deck stronger.
I would think this would have to be the case vs the ease of just glassing a couple of large sheets of ply. Even if they were getting the ply wood scraps for free I don't think they would be saving.

When you get water intrusion from a screw hole in parquet it ruins 1 square. When you get water intrusion from a screw hole in a sheet of plywood it eventually ruins the whole sheet.

[Destroyer]

When you get water intrusion from a screw hole in parquet it ruins 1 square. When you get water intrusion from a screw hole in a sheet of plywood it eventually ruins the whole sheet.

X2 When I redid the underside of my deck on my V21 I used as much scrap plywood as I could find, for that very reason. (I was counseled by my friend that owns a marina and knows these sort of things). His advice was pretty much what Skunk just said.. don't use full sheets, use pieces instead, as it will be stronger and last longer. And don't forget...SEAL the underside before you button it up, and VENT it with hatches open when it's stored.

[Liam]

I understand the theory of using multiple squares but thats only possible if you have an intact surface to lay them out on,my deck had already had the center section removed by a previous owner to allow a poor stringer fix,or if you pull the whole cap and turn it upside down.
I would also imagine you would need around 3-4 extra gallons of resin if you construct the deck in that manner.
I sealed the underside of my sheeting with resin and 3/4 oz CSM.

[Curapa]

Looking good. While the small square theory is sound, there is nothing wrong with whole sheets, especially in resto situations where there is no backing to lay the squares. As long add the under side is sealed with CSM you'll be good to go.

[Destroyer]

Actually, you don't want to use squares. or even rectangular pieces. Irregular pieces work best. The idea is to not have any parallel running seams like you would get with same sided pieces. That way there's no weak spots, I know we're getting picky, but the very best way is curved pieces, (like the curves in the letter "S"). They are the strongest.

[Liam]

Here is the glassed in Deck. I had to build up the saddle tank platforms due to the raise in deck height,to prevent water sitting under the tanks per the original design.
It needs a little sanding here and there and then fairing.

[phatdaddy]

looks solid, i'd gelcoat it, throw some splatter on it and go fishing

[bradford]

Looks good Liam! I like the 70's models.

[Liam]

thanks guys.
phatdaddy,I wish i could get her wet but i still have plenty more work.
The boat is going to get a full repaint.It will next season before she hits the water again..... hopefully lol

[Liam]

Its been way too long since I updated this thread but the boat is almost finished. here are some pics.
We are moving to North Carolina next month and the boat will be coming along.

[Hedge]

Awesome job. :clap:

[phatdaddy]

WOW!!! Carolina flare goin home

[bradford]

Boat looks great!

[SkunkBoat]

:nice: Great looking boat!

[Blue_Runner]

Welcome to NC, have a glass of sweet tea! lol and by the way, beautiful job on your restoration. No, helluva job! congrats

p.s. i hate sweet tea. Half and half sweet/unsweet is about all I can handle.

[Liam]

Welcome to NC, have a glass of sweet tea! lol and by the way, beautiful job on your restoration. No, helluva job! congrats

p.s. i hate sweet tea. Half and half sweet/unsweet is about all I can handle.

lol blue runner,never tried it,i know Uncle Si swears by it. We are moving to Hampstead and I will be working in Wilmington,can't wait.:sun:

thanks for all the kind words,it was tough to keep at the project at times. Removing bottom paint in july is no joke.

[3 Squids]

Beautiful boat. Welcome to the south and try a few sweet teas before you judge. Some make them good, some thick as syrup. We went up north many years back and I asked for a sweet tea at a restaurant and the waitress looked at me like maybe it was code that I'd been kidnapped or something haha. I had no idea sweet tea was pretty much unheard of above the Mason-Dixon. We had a good laugh about it and I settled for water.

I love seeing V's in colors other than white. Both of mine will be painted soon so it's great to see options.

[Blue_Runner]

My brother in law lives in Hampstead

[Liam]

My brother in law lives in Hampstead

We were down in August,seems like a great location

[jjuriga]

Wow man, really nice looking restore!!

[billfish16]

I understand that this thread is old but I just had to reply, what a beautiful boat and great restore!!!!

[steplift20]

It's a brand new 1973 wellcraft Beautiful job