Looks like I'm going to have to go under the knife(again).

[THEFERMANATOR]

Well I've been having some hip trouble here lately so I got into see an orthopaedic for it today. Says I have a hip impingent and a labral tear. I had basically destroyed my femur back in 01 in a car wreck, and he said this all goes back to that accident. The 1st rod they put in back in 01 broke at 11 months so in 02 they replaced it with an oversized and did a bone past graph to fill in the voids in my femur. The head of my femur didn't heal back correctly and has been cutting away at the cartilage and soft tissue in my hip, and now they want to go in and do a reconstruction of it essentially to shave the bone down, repair the cartilage, and try to clean and repair the soft tissue. So it looks like Christmas break for my wife will be taking care of me and our son as the doc says I will be on crutches for a minimum of 4 weeks. FUN FUN FUN. this one is my hip in 03, and the 2nd one is of it today. The pics aren't very good, but it didn't look good in person comparing them.

[lumberslinger178]

Good luck Ferm I feel your pain lately ....

[willy]

Oh man, Ferm I hope they can do right for you. Is a total hip replacement not possible for you?
My Mom has had both of hers done and she is way overweight ( 9 kids) and it still got her around for over twenty years.

[bradford]

Hope you get it built right this time Ferm. I know a few people who have had hip replacements and they are doing really well.

[THEFERMANATOR]

The doctor that put me back together the first time back in 01 said by the time I was 30 I would need a full hip, I'm almost 33 so I guess I've gotten my use out of it. The one I seen today would rather do a repair of my joint because once you go down the road of an artificial you can have a lot more bone problems down the road. I'm going to make a call tomorrow and see if I can get a 2nd opinion on it before I agree to let them do a repair because the X-ray from today looks to me like the actual ball is worn down and not just cartilage damage. All's I know is it FRIGGEN hurts to walk, and I won't even mention what it is like to try and crawl on the floor with an 11 month old.

[Destroyer]

Ferm, I have never been injured like that so I have nothing to compare it to, but if it's any consolation I feel really bad for you. I hope they get it fixed so you can live a normal, pain free life with your wife and baby. Good luck with the 2nd opinion..hope it works out for you. Prayers sent.

[chumbucket]

I'm no doctor, but I play one on wellcraftv20.com and based on those xrays, I'd say you are going to need an Addadicktome. And real soon!!!!!
Now go take a pain killer and wash it down with a glass of JD on ice and check with me tomorrow about payment for my professional (sort of) advice.





In all seriousness Ferm, good luck with that. I hope they're able to fix that and relieve your pain. I can somewhat relate with my knee pains that I've been living with for the last several years. After having one replacement done which still isn't right and now they what to re-do that one plus the other knee, I'm apprehensive to say the least. But either way I'm in pain every day and it really sucks.
So I feel for you and hope that you find relief.

[RidgeRunner]

Serious stuff Ferman. Wish you well. That has got to be a painful ordeal. I suffer from back pain but am scared to undergo the knife. Best wishes and keep us posted.

[Road King Cole]

I went through 6 operations on my ankle, spent way too much time in crutches and in pain.

I agree with the second opinion. get it right.

Good luck!

rkc

[randlemanboater]

Will be praying for your situation.

Hopfully they can get you where it doesnt hurt constantly...soon.

[THEFERMANATOR]

I'm no doctor, but I play one on wellcraftv20.com and based on those xrays, I'd say you are going to need an Addadicktome. And real soon!!!!!
Now go take a pain killer and wash it down with a glass of JD on ice and check with me tomorrow about payment for my professional (sort of) advice.





In all seriousness Ferm, good luck with that. I hope they're able to fix that and relieve your pain. I can somewhat relate with my knee pains that I've been living with for the last several years. After having one replacement done which still isn't right and now they what to re-do that one plus the other knee, I'm apprehensive to say the least. But either way I'm in pain every day and it really sucks.
So I feel for you and hope that you find relief.
I know the feeling about being apprehensive about surgery. They did 3 reconstructions on my right shoulder, and everytime it was the same except I lost more length off my humorous(my right arm is 2 1/4" shorter than my left now). They wanted to try an experimental procedure on it to fix it again, and I finally said enough. I have partial useage of it and can manage the pain from it, and decided to leave well enough alone. The hip on the other hand is a little different because it makes it so I can't walk.

[THEFERMANATOR]

Got my blue(permanent) handicap tag today, so I guess I can officially call myself a gimp. Got my appointment for the 27th to go and see the Dr that did my hip the first time, figure it was a good idea to go back to the person that did the first overhaul on me.

[macojoe]

Sorry to hear of your problem!! But hope all goes well for ya!! Nice to get that Blue card, I got mine and makes things nice when going placves!!

Good Luck!!

[THEFERMANATOR]

Sorry to hear of your problem!! But hope all goes well for ya!! Nice to get that Blue card, I got mine and makes things nice when going placves!!

Good Luck!!
My wifes the excited one for the tag. I didn't always use it the last time I had one, but when I'm having one of those days it will be nice to not have to walk a 1/2 mile across a parking lot while carrying a baby and all of his stuff.

[THEFERMANATOR]

Just got back from the Doc who did my hip the first go round, and he doesn't think the first diagnosis was correct. He ordered 2 MRI's as he said he doesn't want to guess what is inside before he passes judgement on it. He did say he thinks it is not just my hip this go round. He thinks I have torn some cartilage in my knee, and I may also have some pelvis problems due to my groin being on fire.

So happy happy joy joy, looks like I'm in for another long round of fun with it yet again.

[RidgeRunner]

Hate to hear this, it is time for some good news for a change. Hoping the MRI can get a better view of the issue so they can get you all fixed up. Hurting from prior injury just sucks. I do like the way this doc thinks, remove ALL the guesswork, do it right..

Hang in there, maybe it won't be as long as it has already been..

[spareparts]

The best doctors always critique their own work and diagnosis first. The worst doctors act they got it all figured out from the get go

[willy]

Good luck Ferm I hope he see's something doable for you. Wish you the best my friend. Been down this road myself and I get it.

[macojoe]

Its great you are 2nd guessing them for the best you can get! I have tolded and yelled at my wife as I always say no one knows you like you!! She has also had many surgeries, and every time she is good with what ever the doc says, and has had trouble at times! I said what dis yiu say yes for? You had big issues the last time, she says well the doc says..... I say screw him it did not work the lat time so what makes you think its going to work now?

Any way hope all goes well for you!!

[Redneck]

Its great you are 2nd guessing them for the best you can get! I have tolded and yelled at my wife as I always say no one knows you like you!! She has also had many surgeries, and every time she is good with what ever the doc says, and has had trouble at times! I said what dis yiu say yes for? You had big issues the last time, she says well the doc says..... I say screw him it did not work the lat time so what makes you think its going to work now?

Any way hope all goes well for you!!

X2! I don't trust them at the best of the times. Most just want to give you pills and send you on your way.

Good luck and take care!!

[THEFERMANATOR]

Got the MRI done today, and lets just say I would rather be water boarded than go through that again. I'm not exactly a small guy, so imagine being stuck down to my arms in a tube for 25 minutes while sitting completely still for 25 minutes with your leg weighted down and held in place with sand bags and towels propping it up. Then after this fun you get to have the REAL experience of being stuffed inside a cannoli for 30 minutes to have the hip scans done. There wasn't enough room inside the tube for my arms to lay at my side without being wedged against the walls of the MRI machine, and keep in mind those walls get HOT during the scans. Once you get wedged in they have to come back and stuff cushions between you and the tube so you don't get burned. And once your in there you can't bring your arms up because there isn't enough room between your chest and the top to squeeze them out. And during the 30 minute scan remember the tube is hot, so your pouring sweat from your back. And after all this they tell me there was so much metal in my hip that the hip scans didn't really come out and all you can see is the metal. Hopefully it wasn't a total waste and the doc can see what he is looking for in them next Tuesday when I go back in.

[GREYWOLF]

I hear ya ! MRI's are not pleasant I have been thru 5 of them due to back , knee & shoulder surgerys . Try to find one called a PANCAKE MACH. its an open model (NO TUBE) much more easy to deal with, I had to drive 50 miles to mine but well worth it Good luck hope your up and healthy soon

[RidgeRunner]

Damn, I couldn't do that one. Bright side is it is behind you now. Hang in there brother.

[Destroyer]

I hear ya ! MRI's are not pleasant I have been thru 5 of them due to back , knee & shoulder surgerys . Try to find one called a PANCAKE MACH. its an open model (NO TUBE) much more easy to deal with, I had to drive 50 miles to mine but well worth it Good luck hope your up and healthy soon

Yep... I had one done for my shoulder. They (the hospital) called it an Open MRI... Much better than the tube...

[THEFERMANATOR]

The only one I could get to before my next appointment was the tube one. it was not a fun experience. The whole time I'm sitting there I'm waiting for my bones to explode because when I had all this stuff put in they said to NEVER even go around one, let alone in one. I mean it isn't safe to have my metal cane in the room with the machine on, but 14 pounds of stainless inside me is fine.

[macojoe]

Lets not forget about the NOISE!! They gave me ear plugs last time.

[Destroyer]

The only one I could get to before my next appointment was the tube one. it was not a fun experience. The whole time I'm sitting there I'm waiting for my bones to explode because when I had all this stuff put in they said to NEVER even go around one, let alone in one. I mean it isn't safe to have my metal cane in the room with the machine on, but 14 pounds of stainless inside me is fine.

That's cause Stainless isn't magnetic.

[THEFERMANATOR]

Went back to the doctor today that did the original work, and he says he now agrees with the 1st doctors opinion after reviewing the MRI. He also referred me back to the 1st doctor as he recommended arthroscopic surgery as it will be less invasive with a shorter recovery, and the 1st doctor I went to specializes in arthroscopic. So now the waiting game until I can get it done. Want to wait until January as I have a $3K deductible on our insurance per year(resets every year on January 1st), and if they need to go back in a few months after for something else, I would rather pay it only once.

[bradford]

Hope everything goes as well as it can for ya Ferm.

[THEFERMANATOR]

Just called the Dr's office and hopefully I can get this done before the end of the year. Courtesy of obamacare, we now have a $5500 deductible starting next year VS having it done now and a $500 copay. So for $5000 I can afford to put some things off and have it done this year. Hopefully I will find out today if they can get me in this year or not.

[macojoe]

Hope it works out for ya!!

[chumbucket]

But, but it's the "Affordable Care Act". It's supposed to be "affordable". :cen:
That's not even funny. Good luck Ferm. Hope it works out for you.

[bradford]

Best of luck Ferm with both the procedure and the insurance BS.

[THEFERMANATOR]

I go in Monday to schedule the surgery with the Doc. His assistant says they should be able to get me in this year, so that will save us $5000 if they can.

[willy]

Hope it works out for you my Friend, it is scary going under the knife, been there and have done that a few times. Good luck Brother

[randlemanboater]

Praying it all works out for you Therm.

[Destroyer]

Mazel tov my friend. Best of luck. Lets hope this is the last time.

[THEFERMANATOR]

Well it was good news bad news time today. After a 2 hour wait in the crowded waiting area with a tired toddler(couldn't get a babysitter today, so I had to take him with me), I got to the back. Told him I needed it done this year for insurance reasons and I got "Another obamacare victim" response from him. He's booked up until the 1st because of everybody trying to get in before they lose there policies. His assistant said he had a cancelation for this Thursday, so I'm trying to get everything together so I can get it done. Hopefully I can get all the redtape and paperwork sorted out and get in to get this done as the meds aren't working very well anymore(not to mention the extra $5000 it will cost me come January 1st).

[bradford]

We'll say some more prayers for ya Ferm. Hope it all works out.

[Blue_Runner]

Good luck buddy...be persistent and hang in there. It'll work out one way or another.

[Road King Cole]

Don't think I ever said this before: "Hope that knife comes soon".

Good luck!

rkc

[THEFERMANATOR]

The Dr's assistant called tonight and said I am on for Thursday, just waiting for the hospital to set an OR time.

[cfelton]

Good Luck Ferm! We're all pulling for ya. Hope your operation turns out well!

[THEFERMANATOR]

I go in at 7, and scheduled for surgery at 10.

[chumbucket]

Good luck Ferm.:hi:

[macojoe]

:pray2::pray2:Yes good luck!! Hope all works out for ya!! T&P

[willy]

Good luck my friend, saying a prayer for you

[bradford]

We'll be thinking of ya tomorrow morning.

[THEFERMANATOR]

Made it home safe and sound. Surgery went well, but he had some trouble getting the old screw portion out. He removed the rods, filled my femur with bone paste, ground down the head of my femur to remove some bone spurs and excess growth, and stitched my hip cartilage back into the joint(it was cut in half he said and hanging). So far so good.

[willy]

Thinking about you my friend, give you a call in a day or so

[THEFERMANATOR]

Heres the piece I got back.

[Destroyer]

That's a cool memento. Lets hope it's the last one and you are pain free finally. :pray:

[macojoe]

Wow that was fast!! They just don't keep anyone in for long anymore! My niece just had a op and was home the next day.
Glad all went well, now relax and 3 months will fly right by!!

[THEFERMANATOR]

Back in the ER, they don't think it's an infection, but they also have no clue what it is.

[THEFERMANATOR]

Going to be staying here overnight for observation and blood pressure meds.

[chumbucket]

Looks like some sort of cellulitis. Hopefully they can get a handle on it Ferm. Get well soon.

[Destroyer]

Looks like some sort of cellulitis. Hopefully they can get a handle on it Ferm. Get well soon.

X2

[THEFERMANATOR]

Well after a wonderful night in the hospital(I use this term most sarcastically). I went to the ER at 4 and the Dr.s there didn't have a clue what it was, and had never seen it before, but my blood pressure was through the roof because it was itching, burning, and in ALOT of pain now(because my pain meds had worn off and this had spread to such a large portion of my leg), so I got admitted to take blood pressure meds or be discharged AMA and my insurance wouldn't cover it. Before I got admitted I was able to get some more pain meds and my blood pressure had come down to high, but tolerable but I still got admitted for a 24 hour observation hold. They got me into the hospital at 8 and by 9 had started to begin the new treatments and such. My blood pressure was still borderline so I told them not to give me the blood pressure meds yet, but they went ahead and started me on steroids for the allergic reaction on my leg, and then gave me Benadryl around 10.

I was POURING sweat for hours after the steroids, but slept from 10:30 to 2:30 at which time I had to get up and pee. When I got back they came in and rechecked by blood pressure and at this time they convinced me to take the blood pressure meds(only 1 of the 2 they wanted to give me). I took that, a pain pill, and shortly there after another dose of steroids. At 6:30 they gave me another blood pressure pill as this med is every 4 hours around the clock.

Around 8 I get up to pee, make it 5 feet and get lightheaded, then dizzy, and by the time I make it into the bathroom I can barely stand as I'm dizzy, blurred double vision, and short of breath to top it off. Finally around 8:30 I make it back to bed and call the nurse, and at this point a 2 hour fiasco ensues of the nurse freaking out when she sees me and the hospital Dr coming on and trying to talk me into taking a different blood pressure med. I finally say no more as I told them that all of this had happened(but nowhere near as badly) from the last med my primary Dr had tried and was why we had decided to hold off for awhile before anymore treatment(this of course wasn't good enough for the hospital as he is just a DO, not a cardiologist). And oh yeah, now my blood pressure is sky rocketing just like it has on every other blood pressure med they have put me on. After the Dr leaves the nurse comes over to me and tells me not to take anything else and to not listen to the Dr, which is what I had already told her I was going to do.

Now for the real kicker, the surgeon that did the surgery sent in his assistant around 10:30 or so, she took one look at it and said it was an allergic reaction to the adhesive compiled by the betadine on my skin and had caused a type of chemical reaction burn. And she began yelling at the nurses saying I should have never been admitted, and simply sent home with Benadryl. And she had no idea why they would have put me on steroids for it, and there was absolutely no reason to have done so. And finally said get me the heck out of there NOW!

So after a wonderful stay in the hospital, I got to come home around 12:45 once my wife was able to come pick me up. So that was my last 24 hours, and long winded post of the day.

[Road King Cole]

wow, what a mess.

Surely makes my sucky commute home last night minor....

Hope things improve, and improve quickly...

rkc

[THEFERMANATOR]

Forgot to mention now I'm dizzy and lightheaded with the shortness of breath still even though I stopped the blood pressure meds. They said it should hopefully go away in a few days. So after all of this all I needed was a shower and some Benadryl, but had an overnight stay and pumped full of crap I didn't need that made me sick:nut:.

[RidgeRunner]

Holy crap this was all very fast. I missed the surgery date. Glad your OK and out of there. Jeez, you will do anything for attention won't you? Seriously wish you a most speedy recovery.

[Destroyer]

Forgot to mention now I'm dizzy and lightheaded with the shortness of breath still even though I stopped the blood pressure meds. They said it should hopefully go away in a few days. So after all of this all I needed was a shower and some Benadryl, but had an overnight stay and pumped full of crap I didn't need that made me sick:nut:.

I do not trust hospitals at all any more. The one my mom stayed in this April literally killed her with misdiagnosis and wrong treatments. Glad you're away from there! Now get better quickly.

The lightheadedness and being dizzy are usually the symptoms of low blood pressure. I get it from time to time whenever doc adjusts my BP meds.
You just have keep a close watch on your BP since not doing so can have such dire consequences.
My entire family has chronic high blood pressure... My mom, dad, all of their brothers and sisters, and all my brothers and sisters...but we usually live into our mid 90's so I'm not too worried.

[GREYWOLF]

sorry to here about your hospital screw up ( thats why they call it practicing medicine) I hope things get better for you and your family and you are in our prayers,

[Blue_Runner]

Sorry to hear about that crapola you went through....hope you heal up real quick buddy!

[inaforty]

Hope you feel better soon Ferm.

[RidgeRunner]

Update? How you doing Ferman?

[garagenc]

Update? How you doing Ferman?

Ferm post a lot of his info on facebook if any of you go on there.

Just thought I'd pass that on.

[RidgeRunner]

Thanks Lee, Merry Christmas!

[garagenc]

Back at you, hope you are getting some fishing in, it's been 72 dg here the last 2 days, we woke up to 78 this morning at 6 an by 8 it was 82.

[THEFERMANATOR]

Getting by OK right now. Going through some bad withdrawls coming off the Percocet, and still have some of the redness left from the allergic reaction, but I'm getting by. Most would say I'm nuts, but I stopped taking pain meds after about 9 days out of surgery. I deal with pain pretty well, and the Percocet was getting to me. This is the first time I have taken it for any length of time, and I don't like it. But I can't take VICODIN, and there isn't a lot of pain pills they are aloud to give now that aren't on the FDA list of addictive drugs they don't want to prescribe. Hanging in there, and can't wait until I can get back up and going. It hasn't even been 2 weeks and I'm going stir crazy.

[bradford]

Hope things get better for you Ferm. My father in law recently spent a week in the hospital for some BS meds his doctor was switching around on him. I hate hospitals. When I get old and ready to die I think I'll be like an old Indian and just walk off into the woods and sit down against a tree and croak.

[Destroyer]

Hope things get better for you Ferm. My father in law recently spent a week in the hospital for some BS meds his doctor was switching around on him. I hate hospitals. When I get old and ready to die I think I'll be like an old Indian and just walk off into the woods and sit down against a tree and croak.

LOL the way things are going in this country you'll probably need to buy a "woods use" license, a "walking permit", sign an affidavit and pay a fee to the Sierra Club that you will not harm a tree while leaning on it, and last but not least a "Croaking" fee. Then of course, your heirs will have to pay the same fees and obtain the same permits, plus they will have to pay a "removal" fee to take your body out of the woods. Additionally, if a wild animal chews on you at all, they will have to pay a fine for possibly poisoning the wildlife, the EPA will step in and demand that the ground you sat on be certified as free from all contaminants, 4 tests over a years time will have to be performed to verify the ground is clean, and, of course, the local Indian tribe will sue your heirs for desecrating their chosen way of dying.

[bradford]

I'm with ya Destroyer. I was talking to someone a little while ago and we were talking about spreading ashes at sea. Supposedly you have to pay some kind of fee and get permission from the state I believe. I told my wife when it's my turn she'd better not be paying any fee to anybody! Take me out and dump me in bull river between lazaretto creek and wassaw sound and send me off on an out going tide. It will be my last chance at sticking it to the man.

[THEFERMANATOR]

Well since I'm part indian I could probably circumvent most of them permits and fines. For the icing on the cake, I was walking the dogs this morning and they were froggy because of the cool air. The youngest(and biggest) one caught my left crutch when I was starting up the ramp, and down I went in the dirt on you guessed it, my bad side. So today aint been a good day. Had to break the Percocet back out, but not until after I had went down and got my haircut(he got a good laugh about that one as I only go in about 3 times a year for a haircut). So ought to be a fun Christmas.

[THEFERMANATOR]

The Dr says I have to wait until the 23rd to go full weight bearing on my hip. Getting tired of the crutches already ,and it hasn't even been 4 weeks yet. Going to be fun chasing the little one on crutches for the next few weeks.

[RidgeRunner]

You all but said it yourself, you need to be 100% if you plan on keeping up with junior. It is only a few more weeks, you have made it this far, don't mess it up now. Did they do good or can you tell yet?

[willy]

Stick with the plan Ferm, you will get stronger everyday if you do

[THEFERMANATOR]

Today is my first day at home watching him by myself Ridge, and the bad part is he knows I can't keep up with him so he monopolizes on it. They won't do any X-rays or anything until I go back in 4 weeks to check it, but he showed me pics and stuff he took while he was in there, and showed me where the cartilage was ripped out of my hip and where he had to take out some bone, and nail the cartilage back in my hip. He origanlly told me 4 weeks and I could put weight back on it, but due to how much bone he had to grind out he wants me to wait 6 weeks, and then another 6 weeks before I do anything to really speak of on it. Was hoping for 12 weeks and I would be healed, but now it's looking like it could be 4-6 months because of how badly it was damaged.

To bad Christmas break is over as it was nice having momma here to chase the little one, all I can do is crawl to get him or yell.

[reelapeelin]

Today is my first day at home watching him by myself Ridge, and the bad part is he knows I can't keep up with him so he monopolizes on it. They won't do any X-rays or anything until I go back in 4 weeks to check it, but he showed me pics and stuff he took while he was in there, and showed me where the cartilage was ripped out of my hip and where he had to take out some bone, and nail the cartilage back in my hip. He origanlly told me 4 weeks and I could put weight back on it, but due to how much bone he had to grind out he wants me to wait 6 weeks, and then another 6 weeks before I do anything to really speak of on it. Was hoping for 12 weeks and I would be healed, but now it's looking like it could be 4-6 months because of how badly it was damaged.

To bad Christmas break is over as it was nice having momma here to chase the little one, all I can do is crawl to get him or yell.


Apologies for just now catching up w/your situation...ouch!...I snapped my right femur long ago and still have the rod they took out a year later...if you need it, brother it's YOURS!!
Listen to the doc and if/when he advises physical therapy, do it, do it, do it. Hope ya get better soon!

[THEFERMANATOR]

I got the one they took out 3 1/2 weeks ago, and I may still be able to get back the broken one from 11 1/2 years ago. I've got all bone now in my left femur, gonna be interesting the next time I go swimming. The stainless rod was heavy enough I would sink to my left side, now maybe I will float semi normal again(or sink normal).

[spareparts]

get one of those kids harness that you see the families use when they go to Walmart, hook it to one of your heavier rods. You can keep him in check and go kid fishing all at the same time, PS, don't tell your wife where the idea came from, better yet, don't let her see the fishing rod:zip:

[THEFERMANATOR]

I've got a 30 foot dog leash I keep threatening to hook to him. Then I can just drag him wherever I want him to go. I have thought of the fishing rod idea before, she didn't like it.

[randlemanboater]

That was quite a night you had at the ER Ferm...seems like your Dr. who did the knee work would have given you a number to call if you had any problems from the surgery...would have saved you some misery.

Praying for speedy healing for you...and for your boy to be good for you.

[THEFERMANATOR]

That was quite a night you had at the ER Ferm...seems like your Dr. who did the knee work would have given you a number to call if you had any problems from the surgery...would have saved you some misery.

Praying for speedy healing for you...and for your boy to be good for you.

He was in surgery at the time, so his assistant told me to go to that hospitals ER. Now the real fun begins, fighting with hospitals and insurance companies. The hospital hasn't submitted the invoices for the surgery on the 12, so my insurance is kicking everything back on me saying my $1500 copay hasn't been met. The real kicker is I paid the hospital $750 of it already(because I didn't have the full $1500 at the time), and the insurance company doesn't show it because it hasn't been submitted yet. I hate dealing with this crap, sure would have been nice to have gotten some healthcare reform to deal with this sh!t!

[THEFERMANATOR]

So somebody explain to me how obamacare fixed ANYTHING with healthcare? Somebody explain to me why a same day surgery costs over $67K for JUST THE HOSPITAL! That's not counting the surgeon, or anesthesia, JUST THEM! Or why an overnight stay where they almost killed me cost $4K? Sure hoping I can get this all worked out and covered under the single copay like they told me it would be.

I thought it was bad before when it cost $28K in 02 to the hospital for replacing the rod in my leg which was a LONGER surgery with an overnight stay in the hospital. Once everything is added in I bet this BASIC procedure will cost close to $100K which is what 8 days in intensive care, the hospital, and 2 emergency surgeries cost me back in 01 when the accident happened.

[Destroyer]

So somebody explain to me how obamacare fixed ANYTHING with healthcare? Somebody explain to me why a same day surgery costs over $67K for JUST THE HOSPITAL! That's not counting the surgeon, or anesthesia, JUST THEM! Or why an overnight stay where they almost killed me cost $4K? Sure hoping I can get this all worked out and covered under the single copay like they told me it would be.

I thought it was bad before when it cost $28K in 02 to the hospital for replacing the rod in my leg which was a LONGER surgery with an overnight stay in the hospital. Once everything is added in I bet this BASIC procedure will cost close to $100K which is what 8 days in intensive care, the hospital, and 2 emergency surgeries cost me back in 01 when the accident happened.

Ferm, consider yourself lucky. In April my mom was admitted to the hospital for an intestinal blockage. She was there for a total of 10 days, during which time they took a healthy, alert, productive 95 year old woman and turned her into a vegetable that on the tenth day we had to remove from life support and watch die. And for that magnificent display of complete sophomoric ineptitude we had to pay $248,000 for just the hospital bill, not counting the bills from the doctor that prescribed the wrong meds that led to her death or a bunch of other bills. So count yourself lucky my brother, You came out of it alive, despite their best efforts.

[bradford]

Ferm, consider yourself lucky. In April my mom was admitted to the hospital for an intestinal blockage. She was there for a total of 10 days, during which time they took a healthy, alert, productive 95 year old woman and turned her into a vegetable that on the tenth day we had to remove from life support and watch die. And for that magnificent display of complete sophomoric ineptitude we had to pay $248,000 for just the hospital bill, not counting the bills from the doctor that prescribed the wrong meds that led to her death or a bunch of other bills. So count yourself lucky my brother, You came out of it alive, despite their best efforts.


Damn Destroyer, that's awful, sorry to hear.

Whether I had insurance or not I'd be tempted to tell them to stick it up their *** on the quarter mil.

Not to mention the dumbass doctor.

[THEFERMANATOR]

Ferm, consider yourself lucky. In April my mom was admitted to the hospital for an intestinal blockage. She was there for a total of 10 days, during which time they took a healthy, alert, productive 95 year old woman and turned her into a vegetable that on the tenth day we had to remove from life support and watch die. And for that magnificent display of complete sophomoric ineptitude we had to pay $248,000 for just the hospital bill, not counting the bills from the doctor that prescribed the wrong meds that led to her death or a bunch of other bills. So count yourself lucky my brother, You came out of it alive, despite their best efforts.

That's right along the lines of my overnight stay for the allergic reaction. If they had had there way, they would have killed me switching me around on blood pressure meds.

[RidgeRunner]

I hear you. My wife is relegated to bedrest due to a bulging disk in her back. Epidural is the next step in her treatment process and it is still a week away due to the log jam of patients and so few doctors. Healthcare isn't close to being better than it was before O-care. The out of pocket with good coverage is mind boggling. Timing is everything Ferm.
We deductible out 9 days ago on 12/31 and back to zero on 1/1. I have literally shelled out in excess of what the entire total should have been to this point. Why would a doctors office visit cost $330.00? I can go to the walk-in clinic and see a doctor that does not accept any form of healthcare insurance and be in and out faster than I can get checked in at our normal, insurance accepting Clinic. The cost is $60 including a broad-spectrum antibiotic to help me kick this sinus infection.
Destroyer, for the utter tragedy you suffered through, I am sorry. No words really. IDK why but my Hospital stays have gone without a hitch. Very competent care IMO.

[macojoe]

Hope your healiing well and fast!!

[THEFERMANATOR]

My 6 weeks are up, so I'm back on my own 2 feet again walking. Either I don't remember how much fun it was for the first few steps, or else it hurts worse this time. It was like a combination of stepping on a board filled with nails, the nails are connected to 220 volts and shocking me, along with a blow torch going up the sides of my leg. BUT I am walking again. now I have 6 weeks of very light duty ahaead of me, and then hopefully back to somewhat normal duty.

[RidgeRunner]

Good, if it didn't hurt you wouldn't know you were still alive. LOL Hang in there..

[Destroyer]

One day at a time, one step at a time. The longest journey starts with a single step. You'll get there. :beer:

[Hedge]

prayers for a speedy recovery and that this time it was a permanent fix

[macojoe]

Herezs to hopeing you cont iue to get better!!:pray2:

[bradford]

Take it easy Ferm, you'll get there.

[GREYWOLF]

glad to hear your walking again , it will get better, just dont push yourself too much at first

[Pipe_Dream]

Good for you, ferm!

[THEFERMANATOR]

And now for the GOOD news, getting the totals together from the insurance company and it looks like I will owe $2250 for this ordeal. Turns out our policy last year no longer counted copays towards our deductable, so I have to pay copays on top of the $1500 deductable along with 10%. FUN FUN. Guess I need to look on the bright side as our deductable is now $5500 + 20% with a higher copay(thanks obamacare).

[garagenc]

But on the bright side maybe this will take your pain away

[charlie_the_tuna]

good thing about payin' out all that money, take some of the pain away.

[bradford]

"If you like your health plan, you can keep your health plan."

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[THEFERMANATOR]

"If you like your health plan, you can keep your health plan."

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8d/President_Barack_Obama.jpg/480px-President_Barack_Obama.jpg (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8d/President_Barack_Obama.jpg)
NOT FUNNY!

The part that is getting me is my 2nd trip for the rash is going to end up costing me almost $650. $650 for what the surgeons assistant said was unnecesary. I should have been sent home, told to take benadryl, and a shower(her words exactly). Yet the hospital kept me overnight and pumped me full of crap so they could run up a bill. That's the part that is pissing me off. I haven't worked in months now, money is tight, and now I have to shell out an extra $650 for something I shouldn't have even been admitted for.

[bradford]

Wasn't intending to be funny at all Ferm. The whole ball of wax is BS.

I feel for you and your family.

[THEFERMANATOR]

Wasn't intending to be funny at all Ferm. The whole ball of wax is BS.

I feel for you and your family.

No problem, I knew what you meant by it. I was just pointing out the liar in chief's statement AINT FUNNY! one bit about how we could keep our plans. If we still had the plan from 3 years ago like my wife had this would have been a $500 copay, and if we had the plan from 08(bo-AKA before obama), it would have been $250 and we would be paying 1/3rd every month for insurance as we are now. This whole situation just sucks, thanks commander and thief for the UNaffordable care act.

[Destroyer]

Ferm, you "might" want to talk to the hospital, and hint that a lawsuit for a misdiagnosis might be in the offing unless they drop that bill for the $650. When my mom was in the hospital, and died as a result of their misdiagnosis, we got a bill for over $240,000 from them. Insurance paid most of it, but there were still several thousands of dollars that we (her family) were supposed to pay. I spoke to their billing dept, explained the situation and let drop the fact that we were thinking of instituting a lawsuit. Suddenly they got real co-operative, told us to not worry about the money and they hoped that we were happy with the care my mom received.

My point is that they just might back off if you let it be known how truly f**ked up their "care" was, and how pissed off you are about it. Hey, you never know...

[RidgeRunner]

It is crazy how you can get buried in the numbers, Fa$T
Bright side is you don't have to pay for 100% of all the cost or the screwups for that matter, just a portion. The fact is, BO or After, The average surgical procedure with a hospital stay will fully test the finances of the average family. That part hasn't changed, if anything it may be worse AO depending on how you got shuffled..Because Nothing was done to control the costs.. The only thing that really changed is who pays what share.. I could go on forever..

ON THE BRIGHT SIDE
As others have pointed out.. With any luck you will get to feeling better whereas before you couldn't do much for the pain.

[THEFERMANATOR]

I'm definately calling the hospital tommorrow because I was admitted on a wound re eval, but that isn't how they billed it. I'm probably going to call the attorney that handled my lawsuit from the wreck that caused all of this and see if maybe he could make a phone call for me and take care of this. He helped me out like this on another matter before, so maybe he will do it again. It's hard to find GOOD attorneys who actually help you out, and he went above and beyond as well as waved alot of fees from my case before.

[smokeonthewater]

I wonder what it would take to actually organize a class action suit against Obastard

[Well20F]

What happened to the country I grew up in (God help us all)

[THEFERMANATOR]

Just got back from the Dr today, and he said all is healing properly and looks good. But I have 2 more months of walking only restriction on it.

[bradford]

Good to hear a little good news for a change. Hang in there Ferm!

[THEFERMANATOR]

Figured I would update this thread as well. My hip never went back to like it was before I tore it up before I had surgery. It had gotten better until my cardiologist put me on a new med to get my BP down, but the new med has a water pill in it which causes dehydration and that causes joint problems. So for the last few months it has been bothering me quite a bit, then last Tuesday I took my son to the park to play, and I had to grab him to keep him from falling off the walkway and into a concrete lined ditch. In doing so something in my hip popped LOUDLY, and I'm about 99% certain I tore something in it again. I can't get back to the ortho doc until June 8th, so I have to tough it out until then. Not looking forward to being possibly laid up while I have a newborn. So when it rains, it pours. Right now percocet and soma are getting me by until I can get back into the docs, and my stomach is already telling me no more(I've got ulcers and a hole in it from taking so many pills in the past because of all of my problems from my wreck in 2001).

[willy]

Try and hang tough Ferm, I hope things get better for you my friend

[bradford]

Hang in there man, hate to hear you got more troubles.

[THEFERMANATOR]

Seen the doc today, and now I'm waiting on approva from my insurance for the special MRI he ordered. He said something about he thinks the gap in my hip has closed up, and is pretty sure something is torn in it as I have ALOT of swelling in my groin area right now. So the waiting game for my insurance, then to get into get an MRI is on. Will probably be July before I have it done as my copay right now is $350, but July 1st my plan changes and will cost me $200 to have it done.

[bradford]

Maybe the swelling in the groin area has something to do with Mrs. Ferm having those kids? J/K!!

Hope things go good for you Ferm. Insurance sucks, but I guess not as bad as no insurance.

Picked up a 1995 150 hp Johnson Ocean Runner I've thought about bringing to you to work your magic.

[THEFERMANATOR]

Well my worst fear was confirmed today. Theres no explanation for why my hip is hurting so bad. He said I have alot of scar tissue in it surrounding the joint, and the images showed some thinning of the cartilage in the joint, but no real explanation for why I'm in so much pain, the joint popping, or why I'm getting so many spasms. So now I get to start steroids, cortizone injections, and a topical pain cream to try and get the swelling down, and see if it can get back to tolerable at least. I was actually hoping the MRI would show a tear or something they could easily fix, but no such luck. I knew the day would come when my youth would catch up to me, and it looks liek that time has come. if they can't help me soon, I'll be back on crutches again fro mthe looks of it. Theres not much they can do for me with pain management with my stomach problems, so it's just sort of hope for the best now.Well my worst fear was confirmed today. Theres no explanation for why my hip is hurting so bad. He said I have alot of scar tissue in it surrounding the joint, and the images showed some thinning of the cartilage in the joint, but no real explanation for why I'm in so much pain, the joint popping, or why I'm getting so many spasms. So now I get to start steroids, cortizone injections, and a topical pain cream to try and get the swelling down, and see if it can get back to tolerable at least. I was actually hoping the MRI would show a tear or something they could easily fix, but no such luck. I knew the day would come when my youth would catch up to me, and it looks liek that time has come. if they can't help me soon, I'll be back on crutches again fro mthe looks of it. Theres not much they can do for me with pain management with my stomach problems, so it's just sort of hope for the best now.

[bradford]

Hate hearing that Ferm, especially now with you and the missus having all the youngins.

[THEFERMANATOR]

Hate hearing that Ferm, especially now with you and the missus having all the youngins.
My wife said something today about possibly having to put our oldest in day care because even on days I don't do anything I'm in tears come bedtime. Started my steroids today, and forgot how horrible they taste, and how much they upset my stomach. Been breathing fire and acid all day long.

[macojoe]

Know how you fel with the kids, my grandkids run me down in just a few min!! I and my wife with all that is going on can't even babysit for more then half hour and thats if my daughter is no more then 5 min from the house! I am not the grandpa I ever wanted to be :(
Hope all works out for you!! I may have missed it, but what about a hip replacement??

[THEFERMANATOR]

Know how you fel with the kids, my grandkids run me down in just a few min!! I and my wife with all that is going on can't even babysit for more then half hour and thats if my daughter is no more then 5 min from the house! I am not the grandpa I ever wanted to be :(
Hope all works out for you!! I may have missed it, but what about a hip replacement??
A hip replacement ouldn't do much for what I'm getting. It wouldn't help the scar tissue and nerve problems. My hip itself isn't the problem as I can stan with a straight leg pretty well with no pain. My problem is when I have my weight on it and bend my hip I get shooting pain that is enough to make me scream, then my leg just goes out. As to the kids, it's rough knowing I won't be able to really do things with my boys as they grow up. I was told after this happened to not wait because when I turned 30 things would change, I was hard headed and didn't listen, so now I get to pay the price. On top of that my poor wife is beginning to lose it having to do triple duty, and goes back to work in just a few weeks. I'm hoping things turn around soon. I go to court on 9-16 for my disability. I paid into the system, but now that I'm almost wheelchair bound they ignore me. Been fighting it for over 2 years now, and I hope my oldests birthday is good luck for me.

[spareparts]

Ferm, do some research on pelvic alignment, most physical therapist ignore this, it really helped me get rid of a lot of back pain and sciatic nerve pain. I was lucky that the first therapist I went to was up on this and believed in it. Most of the exercises are very simple. I can explain most of them to you or even scan and email the pamphlets I got from the therapist. It helped me a lot, even though I ended up having surgery anyways. Call me if you have any questions

[THEFERMANATOR]

I know my pelvis alignment is messed up from having 2 different length legs now. I was looking over my MRI images, and HOLY CRAP at the scar tissue I have. It has even started going down into my good hip and leg from favoring my bad one. The ball for my hip is no longer shaped like the good one, and I have actual voids inside the muscles and tissue from previous surgeries and where the hardware used to be. Im going to try and get a few screen shots saved to upload, but it's a friggen mess. It looks like I'm at the point of pain management now, and no more working. I wished now I would have listened to the doctors better when I was younger and not tried to push it and do the stuff I used to do.

[THEFERMANATOR]

Well doctor #2 today confirmed there isn't really anything they can do for my hip. Sucks being in pain, and being told they can't do anything for it. My hip is encased in a large mass of scar tissue and voids from years of not listening to the doctors to take it easy. Guess I should have listened to the doctors when they told me to take it easy all them years back instead of trying to be superman and saying I can still do it. He said another injection might help as he thinks the scar tissue didnt let the steroid get into the joint, but its a long shot. Another option is to have a hip debrievement done to remove the scar tissue, then an injection, but this would still be short term relief as the scar tissue will just come back with a vengance. Or a last resort shot in the dark would be a hip replacement, but he also said going in could adjetate it and make it even worse. His reccomendation was to get off the pills and live with it, so thats what I'm doing.

[macojoe]

Hope it all works out some how!!
:pray2::pray2:

[THEFERMANATOR]

Hope it all works out some how!!
:pray2::pray2:
Same to you. It was a longshot, but I was hoping the 2nd doc would see soemthing the 1st didn't. Being told they don't know why I'm in constant agonizing pain sucks, and knowing pain meds don't work is even worse.

[bradford]

Feel for ya Ferm. Hang in there.

[THEFERMANATOR]

Figured I would go ahead and update this. The pain in my hip got unbearable, so I broke down and went back to the doctor that operated on me last. He was rather disappointed that the shots they gave me didn't help. As he put it, I shouldn't have felt ANYTHING in my hip 2-3 hours afterwards due to the nerve blocker shot he ordered(I'm one of those lucky people that they don't work for). His reccomendation is an exploratory surgery to go i nand actually put a camera in and see what is binding it up. Since I can't chance being off my feet for another 6 weeks(the last operation was only supposed to be 1-2 weeks off my feet which turned into 6 weeks afterwards), he sent me to pain mangement. I was getting to be a pretty unbearable individual to the point my marriage was suffering, so I broke down and went. He put me on a muscle relaxer, anti seizure med, and doubled my pain meds. I go back to him Wednesday this time with a formialry list so he can pick a covered narcotic that he feels is more appropriate for wat I'm going through(theres not many pain meds I can take with all of my previous complications and current meds). So right now it's all a waiting game until next summer when I can hopefully have them go back in and see whats wrong after my wife is out for the summer to watch the kids.

[macojoe]

Still praying for ya!! :pray2:

[THEFERMANATOR]

Small glimmer of hope in my future. When my hip problems got really bad back in 2013, I broke down and applied for disability. Hated doing it, but I had to try and do something to help provide for the family as my wifes income isn't enough(been selling stuff off trying to stay afloat in the mean time). Social security of course automatically denied me saying I didn't have enough medical history to prove I was disabled when I was still insured(haven't worked an actual job in a long time since my wreck was in 2001, just worked what I could when I could since then, and continued paying my taxes like I should since). I ended up getting an attorney(the 1st 3 turned me down, lucked out and found good reviews for one right up the road that didn't turn people away) to take it, got it in front of a judge, and finally won. So at least now we can hopefully afford health insurance for us as it was taking over half my wifes income to pay all 4 of our policies(courtesy of obamacare were all 4 on different plans because we can't afford to all be on her's through work). So at least now I can hopefully at least have the funds to go to the doctors, and insurance to do it.

[willy]

Good news Ferm, good luck going forward with your treatments

[bradford]

Good to hear some good news Ferm. Keep hanging in there bro.

[THEFERMANATOR]

Got my insurance and such squared away last month, so now I have resumed going to the doctors to try and move forward with taking care of some of my problems, and maybe get off of some of the pain meds. Went and seen a micro surgeon yesterday who specializes in hand and wrist surgery because I have lost feeling in my left hand for about 3 weeks now. My primary doctor thinks it's carpal tunnel, so I figure OK, simple enough. Seen the doc, and he thinks it might be carpal tunnel, but he said what I'm experiencing is more common in people who have used crutches and canes for walking for long periods of time. He thinks I have nerve damage either in my spinal cord(from supporting my body weight up with my shoulders for prolonged periods instead of with my hips how our bodies are meant to), or I might have damaged the nerves that run under my armpits. So they are scheduling me for a nerve conduction study, and an EMG test to check for nerve damage or prove it's carpal tunnel. So I'm waiting for the nuerologists office to call me and set up an appt for that. My pain management doctor has wanted me to see one since I started seeing him as he thinks I have spinal damage that has gone undiagnosed since my accident in 2001.

Also it looks like I'm showing signs of rhuematoid arthritis setting which could also explain my hands as RA is known to cause carpal tunnel. I'm in the age range for when most people start to show signs of it, and the hand swelling, bent fingers, and NUMEROUS other indicators are pointing towards it. So I have to call and get set up for a blood test to check for that now.

Not trying to sound like I'm complaining, just helps to get it off my chest sometimes as the wife is overwelmed to say the least with a 3 year old, our 8 month old(I beat the IUD challenge), and me going to the doctor all the time now. Just trying to do everything I can to keep my mind off of it as of late, and keep moving forward.

I know others here are also in bad shape, so maybe we ought to add in a gimp section for us to share our medical woes to make others think life aint so bad afterall.

[Pipe_Dream]

Keep the faith, ferm. It sounds like progress is coming.

[macojoe]

Hopfuly your on the right track! good luck!
:pray2:

[bradford]

"(I beat the IUD challenge)"

That's gonna be a tough kid, LOL

Hope the docs and find something that works for you Ferm, I know y'all have to be frustrated as can be.

[THEFERMANATOR]

I'm at the point now I'm HOPING its rhuematoid arthritis. I get theblood test next month to see. On one hand RA is bad news as you cant get rid of it, but at least its treatable and they can hopefully help me out and prolong my deteriation. Its hard to believe a few years ago I was out building frankenburban and able to get out and do things, now I'm dam near in a wheelchair a large portion of the day. Waiting on a call back from the nuerosurgeon so I can get my spinal cord checked as they suspect I have spinal cord damage.

[THEFERMANATOR]

Haven't updated this one in quite awhile now, but my health has slipped again. The tests last year were all negative for rhuematoid, but they did diagnose me with chronic pain syndrome and fibromyalgia. Basically said my brain is pretty much only processing pain responses no matter what I'm actually feeling. The only thing they said I could do was continue with pain management to try and dull the pain sensations and block the nerves. All was doing ok until Christmas time when my back started flaring up, and my sciatic got so bad I spent a good portion of Christmas day flat on my back. Fast forward to today, I've now had 4 mri's, 4 sets of x-rays, and several trips to the ortho dr, here's a copy of the highlights I posted on facebook earlier.

Got all of my mri and xray reports together now, in short, I'M FUBAR! Left shoulder has bursitus, voids, fluid pockets, cysts, rotator cuff tendon damage, arthritis, degenerative joint disorder, and a few others. Right shoulder is still screwed, not much else can be said for it. Left hip has regrown the bone spurs, joint narrowing is occuring, and severe arthritis is setting in.

Then there's the matter of my back and neck. There's 12 protrusions and or bulges from the s1 on up(they didn't do the s1-s5, but I wish now they would have as the damage from the l4-l5 and l5-s1 was worsening going down). So c3-c4, c4-c5, c6-c7, t5-t6, t6-t7, t7-t8, t9-t10, t11-t-12, t12-l1, l4-l5, and l5-s1. Annular tear from t7-t8. Mild scoliosis is setting in, spinal arthritis in several spots, several spots where the spinal cord runs through is narrowing, and some more.

At least now I know what is causing the problem with where if somebody touches my back in a certain spot, my legs go out. It's right where I have the annular tear, and one of the symptoms of one is paralysis from the waist down.

[Destroyer]

Ferm, there's not much I can say except how sorry I am to hear of all your problems. I wish there was some kind of magic wand I could wave and make them go away, but since there isn't all I can do will be to continue to keep you in my thoughts and prayers. Thanks for the update.

[bradford]

Same as Destroyer said, hate to hear it, I can't imagine dealing with all that.

Hang in there the best you can.

[Striper80]

Man that sucks. Hang in there.

[willy]

Praying that the Doc's figure something to relieve the pain and disability for you Ferm

[THEFERMANATOR]

I'll give this one an update. As of today I have to be at the hospital Monday morning at 6:30 for surgery on my left shoulder. The 1st ortho I seen went off of the mri report because he couldn't get the disc from the radiologist to open and play. So he tried injections and such, but needless to say it continued to get worse. He said the only thing left was to scope it and see what was going on. Told him it was so close to the end of school, I needed to wait a few weeks for my wife to finish school so she could watch the kids(she's a teacher). Called back once my wife was done, and he was on vacation. So I decided to get a 2nd opinion.

2nd doctor looks at it(they used there software, just extracted the actual images off the disc because it wouldn't open for them either), says the radiologist misread the mri, and instead of having a large cyst(I still have alot of cysts in the muscle and joint), it was actually a large rotator cuff tear. So I've been dealing with this for months because somebody misread my mri. So dr #2 is going into my shoulder this monday. Decided to go with him as he is regarded as THE shoulder expert in this area, if not one of the best there is anywhere.

As to my back, the spinal place I went to said I have numerous herniations, but none are to the point they can do anything. I have multiple annular tears, but again, none are to the point of being repaireable. They basically said it's normal wear, just accelerated for my age, said it looks more like the back of a 50-60 year old. I plan on getting a 2nd opinion on my back as well just to make sure, but the only thi,g they could say was causing my severe back pain was how I walk because of how bad my hip has gotten(basically said I should seriously consider an artificial hip so they can correct my leg length, and get it toed back in correctly as my foot is twisted out on my left side).

So alot of stuff is wrong with me, but the only sure fire thing they can say is I simply wore myself out. Guess I'm paying the price for all those years they told me to take it easy, otherwise I would regret it later.

[Destroyer]

Glad to hear that at least the shoulder is getting taken care of. The back sounds like it's all related to the hip, so that would be the next target in my book. Good chance that a lot of the back pains etc will heal themselves once the hip and leg are working in the way they are meant to. Hang in there Ferm. Prayers as usual are headed your way.

[Striper80]

Hopefully they can start by getting your shoulder straightened out. Then move on to your other ailments.

[wellcraftv20step]

Sounds like the second opinion was a good idea,,I hope Monday Goes well Ferm !!

[jvitiel]

Wow. I had no idea. Sorry to hear of your troubles. Good luck on Monday and may God bless you and your family with positive results and clarity on your other ailments.

[phatdaddy]

Guess its like anything, they can't fix it unless they know what's broke. I know what its like to have the back of a 60 year old,so I empathize with you.

Good luck, do what the docs tell you to do, try not to get hooked on netlix.

[THEFERMANATOR]

Guess its like anything, they can't fix it unless they know what's broke. I know what its like to have the back of a 60 year old,so I empathize with you.

Good luck, do what the docs tell you to do, try not to get hooked on netlix.

I'm not a huge netflix fan since I built my media Pi + box. I use Kodi to access Exodus and a few other torrent sites, and watch pretty much ANYTHING I can think of. Unfortunately with a 2 and 4 year old, that ends up being cartoons mostly.

[charlie_the_tuna]

got my fingers crossed for you Ferm. hope them docs can take away some of your pain. I know how those back injuries can be. just do your PT and take it easy and heal up.

[THEFERMANATOR]

got my fingers crossed for you Ferm. hope them docs can take away some of your pain. I know how those back injuries can be. just do your PT and take it easy and heal up.

They want me to do PT for my back now, but I can't physically do the excercises until they fix my shoulder, so damned if I do, and damned if I don't.

[Destroyer]

Ferm, how did the shoulder operation go? I doubt you can type yet, but just asking for when you are able. Praying for you .

[THEFERMANATOR]

It ended up not being as bad as was thought to be. The rotator cuff was fine, but I did have a torn labrem, torn bicep tendon, and multiplebone spurs(one of which was binding my shoulder up he said. So the recovery time won't be nearly as long he said. Right now the nerve block is still wearing off, so my arm just feels like a mass hanging off my side with occasional itches(that can't be scratched), and the occasional shooting surgical pain. Will no more after my visit next week when I can see the pictures of it he took.

[Blue_Runner]

Good luck Ferm! Glad to hear recovery won't be as bad as you thought.

[phatdaddy]

High five, oops
Sorry. Rest the shoulder

Great news

[willy]

Good luck my friend, its a tough road you've been put on.

[RidgeRunner]

That sounds like some much needed relief. Hang in there...V

[nymack66]

Good luck Ferm and a speedy recovery to you. God blessings always.