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[redfordguy]

need a hull both stringers rotted out. looking for something with no power or a bare hull i am in CT

[Skools Out]

Just replace the stringers

[chitbob1]

simple fix then you know what you have

[redfordguy]

i Have cut the floor out of the rear of the boat. the two main stringers that run from the bow to stern are no longer there just the fiberglass that used to encase them. any help in repair would greatly be appreciated

[Skools Out]

you can fill them with foam and not rip them out that's how Hatteras builds there's

[reelapeelin]

Blue Runner's got hull w/no motor in that model that he had transom rebuilt on...so I assume stringers good...

Hey DAWG!!...where you at??...

[willy]

Yea Blue step up

And Skools you mean to tell me that Hatteras uses foam for stringers, does not sound right :o

What are you smoking down there brother ;D

[reelapeelin]

Well, Willy, guess you'll just have to go down and find out for yourself...when can I meet ya??...

[willy]

I dunno :-[ still waiting for the retirement bus tour celebration, I'm planning a multi stop engagement. Going to hit the Carolinas with you Blue Stinkman and Skools and head south to the Grand Puhbah with anyone who wants to go in tow.

[Skools Out]

Yeah Willy Hatteras uses a preformed foam and lays them in and glass's over them they are avail. from the people that make them for hatteras. the guy is in New Bern, NC. his name is Dave

email is
[email protected]

Phone is
252 636 2377

[chitbob1]

if you have the money fill them with seacast

[Mulv80]

I still question how important the wood is to the stringer. I know its supposed to help distribute the loads excerted by the motor but it still would seem to me that the fiberglass bears more of the load. I see that the old Makos and some other manufactuers used foam for their cores. The V20 does not have a particularly strong stringer system to begin with in my opinion. I often wondered if the wood was just there as a form for the glass.

[Blue_Runner]

Stringers, hmmm. If there's one thing I'm not 100% sure about would be the stringers on my '72. Not because I notice anything suspicious (besides previously rotten transom) but the thing is I can't see them.

What I do know is I used the boat about 20 times over a year's time and never noticed a problem with floor or stringers - and that was before the new transom!!

But, just because the floor seems solid and you don't notice a problem, does that mean the stringers are solid?? ??? ??? ??? The only way to know for sure would be to see them right?

Here's an ad I put on Craig's List. I have more pictures, but none are great:

http://charlotte.craigslist.org/boa/145620202.html
Actually has pedistal seats now like this:
http://www.wellcraftv20.com/gallery/albums/album33/S2010113.sized.jpg

[mirage2521]

I am freinds with a boat builder. He uses foam boards for stringers, decks, everything. His boat are rock solid 70 mph flats boats. I would not hesitate to replace with foam, reglass and go fishin.

[willy]

Got any pics and info on that stuff, could be sweet for several guys here. I like that idea, rebuild a 20 or more year old boat with the same materials they are using to make these high price boats today ;)

[pikfish]

I had seen a thread some where? about a company that sells preformed foam stringers that have the fiberglass attached. All you have to do is cut them to length and set them in and wet them out. This system is used on some production boats. I will try to find a link to the website and post it. I chose to bench layup my stringers with cossa as a core but that will be a future thread...

[reelapeelin]

Seems to me that'd be great for production runs, but if you got enough "wet glass" around to glass 'em in, you might as well do the whole thing... ;)...

[pikfish]

Preformed foam stringer system website;
http://www.preforms.com/

[macojoe]

I think thats the way to go!! Get rid of all the wood!! Will last forever and give you great resale $$

[reelapeelin]

Ya know that looks pretty cool... 8)...whasa ticket on that ride??...

[Franco]

HEY OZ, THEY ARE LIKE 20 MILES NORTH OF ME !

[redfordguy]

blue runner,
if you lived closer to connecticut the boat would be sold.

[reelapeelin]

redguy...make the trip, Man...CT to NC...piece o' CAKE!!... ;) ;D ;D

Franco...if we ever DO go into the boat-buildin' business, we'll be talkin' w/those fine folks!! 8)

[trollercoaster]

My input on stringers..... I bought a '78 three years ago (the old style with the twin saddle tanks). The transom was a little "springy" that is, when I put some weight on the prop I could see flex in the transom. So, I went to a resin/filler supplier (near Atlanta) got their version of seacast filler (chopped glass fibers, mineral dust and a foaming agent. The finished product has a density of oak. I cut the top edge off dug and vacum'd out all the old wood (some was like a dry pulp) and then noticed the stringer "slots" at the bottom were also full of "dust". I called Wellcraft and was told by a guy that the wood was pretty much just a form for the glass. The glass is still there. I drilled a 1/4" hole through the back, filled the stringer slots with exp p.u. foam, trimmed, then spaced, clamped the transom and filled it with my resin mix. I have had daylight between me and the waves! It's solid as a rock. The bow will lift off the trailer with enough weight on the back of the motor. (Why "re-glass" the stringers if the glass is still there?) (Note, I think in the later years, they used less glass/resin and the stringers may be more important). The only thing I wish I'd have done is to remove more of the sludge/pulp from the two middle stringers because if I get a lot of water in the bottom the water finds a way to get in the port side stringer and get a little heavier before it drys out. If anybody would like a few pics I documented the process.
Best of luck,
Trollercoaster ;D

[msbhammer]

Troller,
Love to see those pics !!. Hook us up !! ;D ;D

[reelapeelin]

Pictures??...did you say pictures...heck yeah, we wanna see 'em... 8)...

[macojoe]

PICTURES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HELL YES!!!!!!!!

[regidog]

Would love to see pics. I will be doing the same soon so right now checking out the options. If i don,t need to recreate the fiberglass on the stringers, man will that save time!!!

[trollercoaster]

OK, here's some pictures! (I guess this is the way to post pictures?) http://s66.photobucket.com/albums/h244/Trollercoaster/
[IMG]

I also threw in a few extra. The pic of #6 cyl that I was told was "low" on compression. (It was ZERO - #1 was low. Also, the seat, (new upholstry) that I left and used some 3/8 eyebolts and teenuts along with some ss hooks on a cam lock tie down, around to the back and it makes an effective "wave stopper" when things get rough. Finally, I'm real pleased at the new stickers! With them and a wax job it really looks great!
To get a little increased height in the center of the transom, I used two sheets of 1/2" plywood, C-clamped to the transom and covered w/.006" PE film so it wouldn't stick. I cut a 2 x 8 with the angles on it and forced it down into the mix, when almost hard (15 minutes) I removed the plywood, cut 2 x 8 and trimmed the edges and covered all with some .060 x 1 1/2 x 1 1/2 alum angle from front and back overlaped and sealed with 5200. I then put a jack plate on, moving the engine back 4" so it wouldn't hit the front of the splash well or the seat back when tilted up.
Hope these help (even though they loaded in reverse). I'll be glad to answer any questions.

Trollercoaster :P

[Blu_Lunch]

We need your password........

[Skools Out]

just share your album or we need a password. just share your album with others.

[trollercoaster]

Whoops! (I'm new at this) To see the pics at the photobucket.com site, the user name is Trollercoaster and for these pics, the password is fishey . See if that works

Trollercoaster

[Skools Out]

yeap throw that crappy merc away and get a real motor lol.

[trollercoaster]

Yeah, I know it's not much (to look at) but it's got two sleeved cyl and pistons and all new rings, top & bottom crank bearings, 3 yrs later has 115 on all six and on a good day with just me will hit 48mph! You know, these older V20's must be heavier than the later ones. I took mine to a scale and with the alum trailer (500#?) we got 4215#. I know the motor weighs about 450 so that means the boat's around 3000! The later specs say around 2000.

You're not really going to put a couple of 225's on one are you?

Trollercoaster

[Skools Out]

who knows i've got 3 lol :o ;D

[Blue_Runner]

Troller, I like your style man! That is a great arrangement you've designed on the back of that boat!

I'm sure you made a few jaws drop when they saw that.