Senot Bert

[willy]

Some photos from when I got down there a couple of days ago

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[willy]

I finally got a video to load at the diner today


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsD1a_Sh_1k&feature=youtu.be

[macojoe]

That doesn't look too too bad, it's fixable!! Just let the dust settle, and see what you can do. You have a whole winter to go yet.

[ssiredfish]

Yea she's a little rashy but wounds heal. Best of luck with it!!!!

[lathehand]

She may look bad but she can be fixed.Too bad you didn't get a season or three out of her first

[willy]

Surveyor says that the breach in the hull bottom has to be inpected and repaired by first pulling the cockpit floor and then the main fuel tank.
Then the bulkhead tabbing all have to be inspected. Especially for a hull that was being banged repeatedly for hours by othe big boats.
The rudders are both tweaked as are the shafts, the rudders are actually pointed in diff directions indicating other issues in the steering components.
Te props are both tweaked, one of them pretty badly.
The skegs that hold the cutlass bearings are both tweaked.
Basically all new running gear is needed.
The both would have to be faired and sanded and awl gripped which is a 8-10 thousand job on a boat this size.
The stainless bow rail is mangled up and needs to be replaced.
No idea on any bulkhead engine room or transmissions yet, or inside components for the cabin.
So it is going to be a very expensive proposition to repair.
With a lot of unknowns.

[spareparts]

nothin this crowd can't handle :sly:

[willy]

Well let me know when you are available to get your butt up here.
Cause everyone else will be tied up for a couple of years

[step up here]

OMG Willy
I am so sorry for you and all the people affected by this storm.I suppose their are many options and I know you will choose the best one. God bless .

[willy]

Thanks

[Kracker Jack]

Hey spare pick me up on the way,I'm ready to work on the old bert.

[smokeonthewater]

come get me too..... I hate glasswork BUT I can work on the rail and drivelines and operate the blender... margaritas anyone?

[Road King Cole]

Man that sucks. Knew how excited you were about your new boat from the video and everything...

Hopefully you can get it fixed in the near future...

rkc

[reelapeelin]

Thanks

Breaks my heart to read the extent of the work would have to be done on that breach in the bottom of the hull...if it could all be done from outside, then doable...but pullin floor and tank...gets dicey, then toss in the running gear R&R...$$$ add up quick...Problem is, it still LOOKS good...I almost wish it was busted in half...that way it'd be an easy call...the good news; there's another out there w/your name on it...you just haven't met her yet...

In light of all the devastation around you and all our V20 brothers up there, I know you are thankful for the truly important aspects of life...y'all stay safe up there...this will take time to parse through, but all will be past in the future...keep yer hair combed...

[willy]

Thanks for the thoughts Oz

And Barnagat no adjuster yet, they say it will be awhile. They suggested I get my own adjuster and forward ti to them.
But I don't know anyone for that. Has to be multiple disciplines involved. Glass man, mechanic etc.

If anyone up here knows anyone who does that sort of thing please let me know.

[reelapeelin]

Thanks for the thoughts Oz

And Barnagat no adjuster yet, they say it will be awhile. They suggested I get my own adjuster and forward ti to them.
But I don't know anyone for that. Has to be multiple disciplines involved. Glass man, mechanic etc.

If anyone up here knows anyone who does that sort of thing please let me know.

You mentioned a surveyor...and you can ask the marina owner...bet they can steer you toward the man you need...

[spareparts]

I wouldn't worry about pulling the cockpit out, not that big of a deal,glas-teck in Florida actually makes new cockpit liners for older Bertrams so you can get rid of about 500 lbs of excess. Local glass guy here has made his own floors and done several bertrams

[Pipe_Dream]

I'm really sorry, Willy...

[THEFERMANATOR]

So long as the engines and trans are good, you can often times find a 28 in need of repower for under $5K in good shape minus engines and trans. There is one down here by me that can be had with a triple axle trailer and tuna tower for about $6K with no engines or trans.

[reelapeelin]

So long as the engines and trans are good, you can often times find a 28 in need of repower for under $5K in good shape minus engines and trans. There is one down here by me that can be had with a triple axle trailer and tuna tower for about $6K with no engines or trans.

Whoa, DUDE!!...Might be just the Rx needed here...big transportation ticket, but if it's in as good shape as Willy's...hmm...:sand:

[spareparts]

there's a 28 down here with a pair of Cummins 4bt's that can be bought for the 20K range. Just pick it up here and fish it all the way back. the stream will be in your favor

[reelapeelin]

there's a 28 down here with a pair of Cummins 4bt's that can be bought for the 20K range. Just pick it up here and fish it all the way back. the stream will be in your favor


There's one on 17 south for 12 Gs...has an extra diesel to boot...but she gonna needa lotta work..a LOTTA work...

[willy]

You fellers must be in boaters heaven or something.
You find a Bertram 28 up here where they are much loved in decent shape with diesels in good shape with good electronics you are looking at a 35-40 G boat.
Even in today market you will find gas engine boats, as long as the tanks have been done with a good hour range and quite old like mine, a 1972, for around 20g's.
If you got a recent repower with the preferred engines, which believe it or not is not diesel but Crusader 350's which offer ideal compromise for power performance and durability and the hull is in good shape you are looking at a 30G boat. Minimum.
I know, I looked at several.
Many that were good in the power area had serious structural issues, were selling cheaper.
So if you are good with major fiberglass repairs, replacing rotted bulkheads etc. you can do well. even up here.
One of my favorite hulls are the early ChrisCraft versions of what became the Bertrams. Hunt designed hulls.
They were better set up in the cabin and put together just as well and sometimes better than Bertrams.
There are a couple for sale up her in the low to mid twenties but need substantial bulkhead and or stringer repair. A couple had diesels.
I love these old boats. But I have not seen anything for the prices you guys are quoting up here that did not have some serious problems and most would never pass a survey.

[willy]

Got the call from boat us adjuster
Cost to repair too high / recommending total loss
Company to contact me in seven to ten days with what's next
Any tips from u guys who have been through this

[spareparts]

your survey should have an appraised value, the insurance company was provided a copy of the survey, don't settle for less than whats stated on the survey. IF they want to argue about it, look on line, pick the 5 most expensive 28 Bertrams you can find with similar equipment and age, print them out and have them ready. When you get your check, head down here and I'll pick out a nice one for you!

[Road King Cole]

well, maybe it is a good thing its totaled...:cry:

Hopefully you will do well in the search for Senor Bert II.

rkc

[THEFERMANATOR]

your survey should have an appraised value, the insurance company was provided a copy of the survey, don't settle for less than whats stated on the survey. IF they want to argue about it, look on line, pick the 5 most expensive 28 Bertrams you can find with similar equipment and age, print them out and have them ready. When you get your check, head down here and I'll pick out a nice one for you!

What he said, also ask what the buy back is as the 28 has quite the cult following and I'm sure somebody will want to restore that girl and get her back on the water. If the engines weren't damaged it may be worth saving them and buy a 28 in need of repower for under $10K, and drop your power in it and be back on the water in no time. And if your looking for a 28, they are PLENTIFUL down here in Fl.

[reelapeelin]

What he said, also ask what the buy back is as the 28 has quite the cult following and I'm sure somebody will want to restore that girl and get her back on the water. If the engines weren't damaged it may be worth saving them and buy a 28 in need of repower for under $10K, and drop your power in it and be back on the water in no time. And if your looking for a 28, they are PLENTIFUL down here in Fl.

I like Ferm's repower option...provided right hull and your motors check out...:party: